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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 04 2014 01:40 GMT
#401
Fecal seems like someone who just went into mafia chat with Elvis and they just decided to start shifting the focus to a new townie after they realized it wasn't working on Superbia.
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Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 04 2014 01:56 GMT
#402
On November 04 2014 10:40 Serejai wrote:
Fecal seems like someone who just went into mafia chat with Elvis and they just decided to start shifting the focus to a new townie after they realized it wasn't working on Superbia.


What about fecals vote on elvis. if you think they are partners what do you think was going on there.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 04 2014 01:56 GMT
#403
On November 04 2014 10:40 Serejai wrote:
Fecal seems like someone who just went into mafia chat with Elvis and they just decided to start shifting the focus to a new townie after they realized it wasn't working on Superbia.

Mind expanding on this? Or maybe giving reads on more than 2 people?
Or a vote? If you have the 2/3 scum pegged, all that's left to do is kill them.
Maybe instead of posting useless speculation like this, you could have tried asking me or elvis a loaded question to make us slip up if you're not sure enough for a vote.

Post reads, or gtfo.
##vote serejai



Grack, if you really want a big-ass detailed read on elvis I can do it but my read is not based on his conclusions but the effort he put in to get them. His reads are similar to mine which helps but I was honestly fishing for a reaction when I voted him more than trying to get him killed.
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 04 2014 02:01 GMT
#404
Clarification to grack: I can do the read on elvis if your read on me depends on it but I am feeling very lazy at this moment. I will be home from work in a couple hours so my activity should pick up.
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 04 2014 02:15 GMT
#405
On November 04 2014 10:56 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2014 10:40 Serejai wrote:
Fecal seems like someone who just went into mafia chat with Elvis and they just decided to start shifting the focus to a new townie after they realized it wasn't working on Superbia.


What about fecals vote on elvis. if you think they are partners what do you think was going on there.


Random vote for Elvis, immediately followed by a "jk Elvis is cool now in my book for no apparent reason", and then continues to follow elvis around like a lost puppy for the rest of the thread.

Pretty standard bad scum play.

##vote Fecal
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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
November 04 2014 02:23 GMT
#406
How much mafia have you played serejai?
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
November 04 2014 02:25 GMT
#407
I just got back and now I being called scum -.- I just been going on speculations for the most part since I have really terrible game sense to tell you the truth guys :| I also think at this point Serejai is trolling us so don't go for him since it's a bait obviously. Immaterial as I said might be a scum though he had some fishy posts and yet to respond to the thread when I called him out so I going to change my vote if possible to##Unvote Superbia and change my vote to ##Vote Immaterial.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
November 04 2014 02:26 GMT
#408
EBWOP ##Vote Immaterial without a period I just didn't mean to add a period right next to his name.
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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
November 04 2014 02:26 GMT
#409
@FF Elvis was already attracting votes. Don't you think mafia would also put in effort in his situation? I'm most interested in sentinel read you/Elvis share
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
November 04 2014 02:31 GMT
#410
Lol lightning I have some advice: the preview button is your friend.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
November 04 2014 02:32 GMT
#411
On November 04 2014 11:26 LightningStrike wrote:
EBWOP ##Vote Immaterial without a period I just didn't mean to add a period right next to his name.

It doesn't matter, it's only for the sake of legibility. We know who you're voting for with or without the period.
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 04 2014 02:34 GMT
#412
On November 04 2014 11:26 Grackaroni wrote:
@FF Elvis was already attracting votes. Don't you think mafia would also put in effort in his situation? I'm most interested in sentinel read you/Elvis share


I think there's a typo in here because I don't understand. Sentinel thinks elvis' posts are not alignment indicative but looks like he leans scum on elvis. So I don't share my read with him.

Unless you mean elvis and I share the read on sentinel and want to hear about my reads on sentinel. That's probably it. I will filter dive sentinel and form a real read. I said my reads were similar, not the same and sentinel is someone I have yet to look at.

I will get back with a read on sentinel, brb.
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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
November 04 2014 02:40 GMT
#413
Lightning has anything stuck out to you from what you've read since you were here earlier? Give me some thoughts on anything that has happened since you were gone.
Elvis!
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany396 Posts
November 04 2014 02:41 GMT
#414
Uhm, sentinel, I'm not quite sure if you actually read what I write:
On November 04 2014 10:20 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2014 06:55 Elvis! wrote:
On November 04 2014 05:50 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On November 04 2014 02:30 Elvis! wrote:
so posting something trolly on the second page makes someone scummy, inflicts (apparently) massive amounts of chaos and confusion. Okay I guess. So we should be having ~5 scum caught already since a lot of people posted stuff like that on the first couple of pages.

The difference is that what Superbia did became central to our discussion. Hell, even my post about RNG-rigging could have been a similar reason to pressure vote me, although I was around to clear up the discussion while Superbia went to sleep.


Well then even you say that your post was as trolly/chaotic as superbia's? A scum slip this early?

We had different motivations to same effects. I was trying to work out a way to help find scum by way of setup. He was trying to find scum by setting out a trap. Neither ended up working and ended up in disorder, his more than mine.

Show nested quote +
On November 04 2014 06:58 Elvis! wrote:
Why would town Elvis continue to mention that your post was trolling if he was trying to get people to discuss something else? That doesn't seem very sensible to me; it just refocuses discussion on the nature of your post.


Sooooo in what way is saying that this is an unnecesarry topic bringing the focus back to it? Especially most of my posts were in a row and people didn't even have time to write something in between?

Well, here are all the posts in your filter, in order, starting with #6 and ending with #10:

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 03 2014 11:31 Elvis! wrote:
As a note on Superbia:
His disputed post just seems so trolly, wanna see if he actually pulls through (which would be retarded as fuck - I'm not used to Superbia doing stuff that stupid), so I'll not go on the wagon yet.
If he actually does that shit, holy moly he's gon get lynched.

On November 03 2014 11:32 Elvis! wrote:
Also I can't get any reasonable townreads as of yet, since everyone is just reading into an obviously trolly post.

On November 03 2014 11:33 Elvis! wrote:
If superbia doesn't pull through we'll just have wasted a fuckton of time going after someone with like 2 posts.

On November 03 2014 11:38 Elvis! wrote:
Not wanting to sheep superbia, his post is really weird, just don't know if it's town weird or scum weird until he posts again

On November 03 2014 11:38 Elvis! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 11:37 KelsierSC wrote:
There are other things to discuss outside of supers post


Make an example


Pretty much focused on Superbia, but also note that you call it an "obviously trolly post", and also say that if Superbia does nothing then the whole discussion is a waste of time. But then why perpetuate the discussion with five more posts in a row? You're filling a quarter of a page in a game where the volume of posting is low on a player who you deem irrelevant to events.


Sooooo you know that was in the time span of 8 minutes, which I said earlier. Oh wow 5 small posts filling up a little bit of space, that didn't ever happen before.
I only even mentioned it for 8 minutes, all the time saying I think it's unnesesarry to talk about.

I don't even know how you try to pull my last one into this, where I ask Chelsea which targets are the most important right now, futherly getting the focus to something else.

I don't even remotely get how you think this is me putting it into spotlight. Like 0 understanding of your reasoning.



But as I just thought nothing more weird could happen Serejai appears with a post without anything that makes any sense:
On November 04 2014 10:40 Serejai wrote:
Fecal seems like someone who just went into mafia chat with Elvis and they just decided to start shifting the focus to a new townie after they realized it wasn't working on Superbia.


Like I never even shifted any focus to Superbia. I tried getting people away from the Superbia wagon and onto something else.
You're just straight up lying.

Serejai officially either complete and utter donkey town or complete and utter donkey scum. This is even more donkey than loafery.
other people turn around and laugh at you - if you say - that these are the best days - of their lives. - Blur
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
November 04 2014 02:44 GMT
#415
Post #10 (make an example) read to me like you were trying to bring the discussion back to Superbia for lack of anything else to talk about. That was my mistake.

On November 04 2014 10:23 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I don't know how to feel about Elvis at this point, but I feel a lot of his reasoning on me is jumping to conclusions. And scum and town both do that to a great extent.

Who the hell said I had a scum read on Elvis?
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 04 2014 03:05 GMT
#416
On November 03 2014 07:22 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 07:16 Superbia wrote:
Welcome to Superbia's tunneling company!

I am currently offering a lucrative one-of-a-kind tunneling contract! Signing this contract means I tunnel the utter shit out of you today, most likely resulting in your lynch.

Are you town enough to survive the tunnel? Are you mafai and feel like taking a risk? First come first serve!

I'll take the contract with the extended sheeping plan. I make the most rational decisions on the way to the chopping block anyway.

Also, this is my first game of mafia where I no longer have swim practice. Which means i should,be able to operate much more efficiently now!

I agree with superbia in saying that a good town wouldn't take this contract if he thought it was serious.


After signing up for the tunnel, he starts to talk about game setup and host-based WIFOM rather than talking about what the superbia post really means. At this point the superbia post has been beat to death and then beat some more but at the time of this post the only other comment on it was batsnacks' vote.

Even after batsnacks less-than-subtly points out why the speculation is useless sentinel continues to talk about host-based wifom.

It's not until I explain that BH wouldn't offend the RNG gods that he reconsiders yet leaves in "I stand by my practice of rigging games." Not to sound nitpicky but that seems like a trolly leave-behind to get people talking about RNG-rigging rather than the game at hand.


Now let's look at his actions after the fabled tunneling professional returns. I'm going to be quoting from this post

I wait for you to make an argument and see who, if anyone, sheeps it or incorporates it into their case on me. Then I can poke holes in it appropriately, and I have a list of people who are trying to sneak by under the floorboards while you attract all the attention.

Well, here's the first person to incorporate super's logic in his case. Come at me, brother.

Why would town Elvis continue to mention that your post was trolling if he was trying to get people to discuss something else? That doesn't seem very sensible to me; it just refocuses discussion on the nature of your post.

So elvis looks scummy for wasting town's time talking about someone he thinks is unimportant? What about wasting town's time talking about game setup information that can never be confirmed, is that scummy?

Then this post.
On November 04 2014 10:20 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2014 06:55 Elvis! wrote:
On November 04 2014 05:50 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On November 04 2014 02:30 Elvis! wrote:
so posting something trolly on the second page makes someone scummy, inflicts (apparently) massive amounts of chaos and confusion. Okay I guess. So we should be having ~5 scum caught already since a lot of people posted stuff like that on the first couple of pages.

The difference is that what Superbia did became central to our discussion. Hell, even my post about RNG-rigging could have been a similar reason to pressure vote me, although I was around to clear up the discussion while Superbia went to sleep.


Well then even you say that your post was as trolly/chaotic as superbia's? A scum slip this early?

We had different motivations to same effects. I was trying to work out a way to help find scum by way of setup. He was trying to find scum by setting out a trap. Neither ended up working and ended up in disorder, his more than mine.

Show nested quote +
On November 04 2014 06:58 Elvis! wrote:
Why would town Elvis continue to mention that your post was trolling if he was trying to get people to discuss something else? That doesn't seem very sensible to me; it just refocuses discussion on the nature of your post.


Sooooo in what way is saying that this is an unnecesarry topic bringing the focus back to it? Especially most of my posts were in a row and people didn't even have time to write something in between?

Well, here are all the posts in your filter, in order, starting with #6 and ending with #10:

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 03 2014 11:31 Elvis! wrote:
As a note on Superbia:
His disputed post just seems so trolly, wanna see if he actually pulls through (which would be retarded as fuck - I'm not used to Superbia doing stuff that stupid), so I'll not go on the wagon yet.
If he actually does that shit, holy moly he's gon get lynched.

On November 03 2014 11:32 Elvis! wrote:
Also I can't get any reasonable townreads as of yet, since everyone is just reading into an obviously trolly post.

On November 03 2014 11:33 Elvis! wrote:
If superbia doesn't pull through we'll just have wasted a fuckton of time going after someone with like 2 posts.

On November 03 2014 11:38 Elvis! wrote:
Not wanting to sheep superbia, his post is really weird, just don't know if it's town weird or scum weird until he posts again

On November 03 2014 11:38 Elvis! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 11:37 KelsierSC wrote:
There are other things to discuss outside of supers post


Make an example


Pretty much focused on Superbia, but also note that you call it an "obviously trolly post", and also say that if Superbia does nothing then the whole discussion is a waste of time. But then why perpetuate the discussion with five more posts in a row? You're filling a quarter of a page in a game where the volume of posting is low on a player who you deem irrelevant to events.


let's look at the timestamps of elvis' posts you quoted in the spoiler.
November 03 2014 11:31
November 03 2014 11:32
November 03 2014 11:33
November 03 2014 11:38
November 03 2014 11:38


You're making him seem like he's trying to derail discussion multiple seperate times yet all the posts you quote are from a 7-minute period of time. Your logic only follows if people perpetuated the discussion because of elvis and, to be honest, the only person to do that is you.

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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 04 2014 03:05 GMT
#417
So yeah, I guess I do scumread sentinel, grack.
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 04 2014 03:08 GMT
#418
On November 04 2014 11:41 Elvis! wrote:
Uhm, sentinel, I'm not quite sure if you actually read what I write:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2014 10:20 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On November 04 2014 06:55 Elvis! wrote:
On November 04 2014 05:50 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On November 04 2014 02:30 Elvis! wrote:
so posting something trolly on the second page makes someone scummy, inflicts (apparently) massive amounts of chaos and confusion. Okay I guess. So we should be having ~5 scum caught already since a lot of people posted stuff like that on the first couple of pages.

The difference is that what Superbia did became central to our discussion. Hell, even my post about RNG-rigging could have been a similar reason to pressure vote me, although I was around to clear up the discussion while Superbia went to sleep.


Well then even you say that your post was as trolly/chaotic as superbia's? A scum slip this early?

We had different motivations to same effects. I was trying to work out a way to help find scum by way of setup. He was trying to find scum by setting out a trap. Neither ended up working and ended up in disorder, his more than mine.

On November 04 2014 06:58 Elvis! wrote:
Why would town Elvis continue to mention that your post was trolling if he was trying to get people to discuss something else? That doesn't seem very sensible to me; it just refocuses discussion on the nature of your post.


Sooooo in what way is saying that this is an unnecesarry topic bringing the focus back to it? Especially most of my posts were in a row and people didn't even have time to write something in between?

Well, here are all the posts in your filter, in order, starting with #6 and ending with #10:

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 03 2014 11:31 Elvis! wrote:
As a note on Superbia:
His disputed post just seems so trolly, wanna see if he actually pulls through (which would be retarded as fuck - I'm not used to Superbia doing stuff that stupid), so I'll not go on the wagon yet.
If he actually does that shit, holy moly he's gon get lynched.

On November 03 2014 11:32 Elvis! wrote:
Also I can't get any reasonable townreads as of yet, since everyone is just reading into an obviously trolly post.

On November 03 2014 11:33 Elvis! wrote:
If superbia doesn't pull through we'll just have wasted a fuckton of time going after someone with like 2 posts.

On November 03 2014 11:38 Elvis! wrote:
Not wanting to sheep superbia, his post is really weird, just don't know if it's town weird or scum weird until he posts again

On November 03 2014 11:38 Elvis! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 11:37 KelsierSC wrote:
There are other things to discuss outside of supers post


Make an example


Pretty much focused on Superbia, but also note that you call it an "obviously trolly post", and also say that if Superbia does nothing then the whole discussion is a waste of time. But then why perpetuate the discussion with five more posts in a row? You're filling a quarter of a page in a game where the volume of posting is low on a player who you deem irrelevant to events.


Sooooo you know that was in the time span of 8 minutes, which I said earlier. Oh wow 5 small posts filling up a little bit of space, that didn't ever happen before.
I only even mentioned it for 8 minutes, all the time saying I think it's unnesesarry to talk about.

I don't even know how you try to pull my last one into this, where I ask Chelsea which targets are the most important right now, futherly getting the focus to something else.

I don't even remotely get how you think this is me putting it into spotlight. Like 0 understanding of your reasoning.



But as I just thought nothing more weird could happen Serejai appears with a post without anything that makes any sense:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2014 10:40 Serejai wrote:
Fecal seems like someone who just went into mafia chat with Elvis and they just decided to start shifting the focus to a new townie after they realized it wasn't working on Superbia.


Like I never even shifted any focus to Superbia. I tried getting people away from the Superbia wagon and onto something else.
You're just straight up lying.

Serejai officially either complete and utter donkey town or complete and utter donkey scum. This is even more donkey than loafery.


How could your question the godly analysis of Serejai, though?
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 04 2014 03:08 GMT
#419
you*
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
November 04 2014 03:09 GMT
#420
Summary of stuff what happened when I left: People unvoting Superbia and people are thinking Elvis is mafia but others do not and were making arguments for and against Elvis.
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