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batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On November 03 2014 22:45 LightningStrike wrote: I can't unvote as far as I know now that I read the thing but after reading his posts a little bit more carefully he just seem like a troll. So you thought he was fishy, and now you think he's trolly. What made you change your mind? Superbia hasn't said anything. | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14277 Posts
On November 03 2014 22:59 batsnacks wrote: So you thought he was fishy, and now you think he's trolly. What made you change your mind? Superbia hasn't said anything. After reading some people's posts about him it just seem like they basically saying he is just been trolling in the opening. and I checked Grackaroni and he seemed to not follow through about a strange answering why it was a strange vote. As I said I still a new player and trying to learn while playing. | ||
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batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
Who should the people who are voting superbia be focusing on if not him? | ||
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Elvis!
Germany396 Posts
On November 03 2014 23:16 LightningStrike wrote: After reading some people's posts about him it just seem like they basically saying he is just been trolling in the opening. and I checked Grackaroni and he seemed to not follow through about a strange answering why it was a strange vote. As I said I still a new player and trying to learn while playing. To the things in bold: So you changed your mind because of whom? A pink whale told you so, as a nda information? If not, please quote and give reasons, this just looks like "oh the mainstream is now doing something different, let's change wagons so we don't look suspicious. Also, stop pulling the newbie card 24/7. It's okay to be unsure about something, but don't ever blame things on you being newbie. This is just a spontaneous post on my way home and not the big promised post yet. I'll do that once I arrived. | ||
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
The play is pretty straightforward. Experienced town is never going to take the contract for these reasons: - If I'm town, I'll be wasting my time tunneling on a townie (from their perspective) - If I'm mafia, I'll have a great excuse to go hard on them all day. Scum, however, is more likely to take the contract for the following reasons: - WIFOM - I'm not afraid of being watched, I swear! - Easy fallback on "Wow I can't believe you actually tunneled me, you're dumb as shit" Since Sentinel is an experienced player (apparently), I'm pretty sure he's mafai here. Him following the badsnacks pressure train (and FF/kelsier's push) on me doesn't help. Why agree and then go against it? ##Vote: [UoN]Sentinel Some other thoughts: Batsnacks - I'm okay with bats at the moment. His push on me seemed like the typical "push for info" I expect to see at the start of d1. Leaning town for now. KelsierSC - On November 03 2014 09:11 KelsierSC wrote: Ff is my first town.. Firstly explaining to sentinal about the bh being rng king. And secondly he went back and checked the possible set ups after kush made his pronouncement then he asked kush to explain himself. That is a guy putting in the effort to catch scum. Was an incredibly weak read at best. Feels more like a pocket or possibly (dare I hope) aligned scum. Scumlean on Kelsier. Townpoints to breshke for pinging him out for it. Also does the exact same thing as FF (see below) Fecalfeast - On November 03 2014 11:06 Fecalfeast wrote: Tunneling someone who volunteers, IMHO, sounds like some really unproductive stuff. Maybe I have an incorrect definition of tunneling. To just pick the first person who raises their hand and focus only on that person is to waste his time and energy on a gamble. At least an RNG lynch opens up analysis for D2 based on votes. If the person he tunnels is town we have to decide what to do with super before we analyze votes. I don't see ANY upside to announcing: "I TUNNEL SOMEONE PLS VOLUNTEER" and actually following through. If someone could enlighten me as to why he is town, that'd help a lot. Why are you pushing someone for something that hasn't even happened yet? If you were really looking to catch scum you would wait for me to follow up and then evaluate from here. Pushing on someone for something insubstantial is pretty scummy: it's a losing strategy for town, and an easy way to get town-read as scum. Scum-lean on FF. Breshke - This is a different Breshke from what I'm used to (he's way more proactive than before). His questions are spot on and the mindset behind his posts feels very town. The fact that he's more proactive only adds to to the towniness. Top town at the moment. Elvis! - Elvis made sense and seems to have the same viewpoint as I would have on my post. Leaning town. Grackaroni - Defends me, and I'm not sure how I feel about this. On the one hands his arguments are valid and logical, on the other hand, why defend me? Don't feel like the thread was stagnating at that point in time, and there was still information to be gained. Grack, why did you defend me? Immaterial - Null. Not sure if newbie town or mafai. Sheeps Kelsier, which is horrible. Gets pinged out for faulty logic (which is by extension Kelsier's faulty logic), but keeps his vote on me regardless, which feels a little more like town pressuring than scum sheeping. Would like to see more content from him before I make up my mind (his prose is also pretty decent). LightningStrike - Leaning mafia. Sheeps the vote for me but doesn't really seem to have a real opinion on the matter. This post screams mafia trying to insert themselves into a push/conversation: On November 03 2014 22:33 LightningStrike wrote: I just woke up and saw someone thinking as a scum and I can understand a bit because I still a new player on TL mafia. But currently Elvis mainly made really large posts from what I had seen except when he said he will be in a couple of hours after uni and we will need to wait for a response from him. ## Unvote it seem just Superbia made some troll posts and we kind of over reacted to it. In conclusion: I feel like Sentinel is the most likely hit at the moment, followed by Kelsier and then FF or LightningStrike. At least 2 in those 4. Need to get opinions/content from the following people: - Serejai - Cricketer12 - kushm4sta | ||
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
On November 03 2014 22:02 Serejai wrote: Dear Diary, My name is Jasmine and I am an exchange student from Germany. I am 19 years old. Today was my first day of class at my new school! It's a small class - only about ten students - but I will try to make it my own. Upon entering the room I noticed there were only three seats left. I decided to sit in the middle seat and I hope to become friends with the two people who sit beside me! There's not much else to write about at the moment, as I am still meeting my classmates. I hope this will be a good year! xoxo - Jasmine Lol. Are you claiming scum here? | ||
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Superbia
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LightningStrike
United States14277 Posts
On November 04 2014 00:35 Elvis! wrote: To the things in bold: So you changed your mind because of whom? A pink whale told you so, as a nda information? If not, please quote and give reasons, this just looks like "oh the mainstream is now doing something different, let's change wagons so we don't look suspicious. Also, stop pulling the newbie card 24/7. It's okay to be unsure about something, but don't ever blame things on you being newbie. This is just a spontaneous post on my way home and not the big promised post yet. I'll do that once I arrived. Mainly reading Kelsier posts about him maybe trolling us with that joke opening from him that's all. | ||
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
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LightningStrike
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Superbia
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
ny initial read on ff was actually very good for a d1 read. My points on you were valid i had gone and looked at your past games. Ive also instigated discussion and given a lot of reads already so that kind of worries me. | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
at least you are trying to play the game now. your reason for reading sentinel as mafia is just fucking awful. you say "Eric makes sense" well he said making initial posts matter is stupid. So why does sentinels initial post matter? | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14277 Posts
On November 03 2014 12:35 Immaterial wrote: I didn't say that I have no idea why -- I said I didn't "fully understand" the tunneling business. I had already searched and found an article on that mafia wiki site, but I still didn't completely understand what he meant by that in the given context. My interpretation of tunneling is that he would just select on person he's convinced is mafia and target them relentlessly (tunnel vision). I don't know if that's the correct interpretation, but my honest read on it was that Superbia's approach in those posts was strange. My vote was based on that combined with some other people's posts. He seems to be trying to steer us away from the whole fiasco in his next post On November 03 2014 12:57 Immaterial wrote: I suppose the main post I'm referring to in regard to Superbia is Kelsier's: + Show Spoiler + On November 03 2014 11:07 KelsierSC wrote: My reasons for super 1. Deliberately tunneling is anti town. You have no desire to solve the game and you make things harder for the rest if town. 2. I looked through his past games. I couldn't find many but i don't see evidence of him tunneling d1 at all so why does he have this tunneling ticket nonsense. just seems like a contrived entry to the thread and not really wanting to solve the game. 3. Also looking through his past games, the recent mafia game of his was very trolly this again looks like hm setting up to troll and dick around d1. 4. After stating hr is going to hard tunnel on someone he just picks up and leaves the thread Superbia's initial posts seemed trollish at the very least. He just dropped the posts and bailed from the thread... Maybe he's just busy, but in any case it seems that doing what he did serves little purpose but to instill confusion/chaos among the town. Kelsier's reasoning in the post quoted above regarding Superbia seems sound. It's very fishy for me with those two posts. | ||
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LightningStrike
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Superbia
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KelsierSC
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
On November 04 2014 00:55 KelsierSC wrote: Also none of my logic was faulty so not really sure what you are talking about. at least you are trying to play the game now. your reason for reading sentinel as mafia is just fucking awful. you say "Eric makes sense" well he said making initial posts matter is stupid. So why does sentinels initial post matter? Who is Eric? Also my agreements are not all-encompassing, and that is not a good basis for disagreeing with my read. Here's the problem I have with sentinel: If sentinel was joking around, why did he join the push on me? The push was completely based on me doing nothing but that during d1, and as such, it makes no sense if he wasn't serious. That being said, why would he agree to the tunnel if he was town? I've gone over this. Hence he's scum. | ||
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