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KelsierSC
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Grackaroni
United States9857 Posts
On November 03 2014 11:37 Immaterial wrote: In light of what everyone has been saying, I'm reasonably convinced about superbia so: ##vote: superbia As a new player I don't fully understand that tunnelling stuff he was talking about, but it did sound strange. This is a really strange vote. You want to lynch super but you have no idea why he is scummy? | ||
Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
On November 03 2014 12:04 KelsierSC wrote: Sentinal can you give reads on what has happened so far. Give me reads i. Myself, bats, ff, frak and bresh to start with. I'd like to extend this to all players who have yet to post any reads. | ||
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KelsierSC
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Grackaroni
United States9857 Posts
On November 03 2014 11:07 KelsierSC wrote: My reasons for super 1. Deliberately tunneling is anti town. You have no desire to solve the game and you make things harder for the rest if town. 2. I looked through his past games. I couldn't find many but i don't see evidence of him tunneling d1 at all so why does he have this tunneling ticket nonsense. just seems like a contrived entry to the thread and not really wanting to solve the game. 3. Also looking through his past games, the recent mafia game of his was very trolly this again looks like hm setting up to troll and dick around d1. 4. After stating hr is going to hard tunnel on someone he just picks up and leaves the thread 1) I think it's pretty clear that he wasn't actually planning on doing nothing but tunneling a random person for the rest of the day. He wrote some trolly posts at the start of the game; there's not much we can read into that he's only made 2 posts when nothing was happening. 2) Same as #1. Those posts don't actually mean he's going to tunnel. We all enter differently; Some people are super serious from the start. I like to troll at the start of games. 3)This could be a good point. If he shows a pattern of writing trolly posts at the start of games as mafia and being serious as town then that would be the start of a good meta argument. 4)He's from the Netherlands. I assume he went to bed. | ||
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Immaterial
Canada510 Posts
On November 03 2014 12:05 Grackaroni wrote: This is a really strange vote. You want to lynch super but you have no idea why he is scummy? I didn't say that I have no idea why -- I said I didn't "fully understand" the tunneling business. I had already searched and found an article on that mafia wiki site, but I still didn't completely understand what he meant by that in the given context. My interpretation of tunneling is that he would just select on person he's convinced is mafia and target them relentlessly (tunnel vision). I don't know if that's the correct interpretation, but my honest read on it was that Superbia's approach in those posts was strange. My vote was based on that combined with some other people's posts. | ||
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
On November 03 2014 12:35 Immaterial wrote: I didn't say that I have no idea why -- I said I didn't "fully understand" the tunneling business. I had already searched and found an article on that mafia wiki site, but I still didn't completely understand what he meant by that in the given context. My interpretation of tunneling is that he would just select on person he's convinced is mafia and target them relentlessly (tunnel vision). I don't know if that's the correct interpretation, but my honest read on it was that Superbia's approach in those posts was strange. My vote was based on that combined with some other people's posts. Who's posts, which ones try quote them if you can. What do you think about them because of these posts? | ||
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Immaterial
Canada510 Posts
On November 03 2014 12:38 Breshke wrote: Who's posts, which ones try quote them if you can. What do you think about them because of these posts? I suppose the main post I'm referring to in regard to Superbia is Kelsier's: + Show Spoiler + On November 03 2014 11:07 KelsierSC wrote: My reasons for super 1. Deliberately tunneling is anti town. You have no desire to solve the game and you make things harder for the rest if town. 2. I looked through his past games. I couldn't find many but i don't see evidence of him tunneling d1 at all so why does he have this tunneling ticket nonsense. just seems like a contrived entry to the thread and not really wanting to solve the game. 3. Also looking through his past games, the recent mafia game of his was very trolly this again looks like hm setting up to troll and dick around d1. 4. After stating hr is going to hard tunnel on someone he just picks up and leaves the thread Superbia's initial posts seemed trollish at the very least. He just dropped the posts and bailed from the thread... Maybe he's just busy, but in any case it seems that doing what he did serves little purpose but to instill confusion/chaos among the town. Kelsier's reasoning in the post quoted above regarding Superbia seems sound. | ||
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Immaterial
Canada510 Posts
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
On November 03 2014 11:51 Elvis! wrote: @sentinel he's trolling on like the second page of the thread. Stop trying to make reasonable posts in the first pages happen. Its not gonna happen. Surely trolly behaviour is typically scum, because scum want to distract from something with it. Is he distracting from something? As long as he doesn't go full retard and fulfill his promise, I don't read him town/scum for that. His reaction is all that counts. Trolling is distracting in its nature because people react and it creates a chaotic situation favorable to scum instead of everyone trying to find out who the scum is. On November 03 2014 12:04 KelsierSC wrote: Sentinal can you give reads on what has happened so far. Give me reads i. Myself, bats, ff, frak and bresh to start with. You (and bat) I'd give you two towncred for your presence in the thread. You're both arguing your points (the motivations of kush, etc.), progressing logically, and incorporating new information as it comes up. That's pretty good town play and solid considering we're working with a single-digit number of actual game pages at this point. This doesn't incorporate into my read on batsnacks much (namely because he's one of my top two towns at this point), but I've frequently seen scum give themselves subconscious townie points by helping the mods since it looks like it's done in the name of clarity. Him offering the filters/important posts doesn't seem like scum covering themselves up though, because he's so active without the offerings, but if he drops off in later days it will be something I factor into my consideration. FF Null. Not sure if this is a joke but I kinda felt like he was jumping the gun here: On November 03 2014 11:25 Fecalfeast wrote: That's a dirty trick putting [/quote] in your post to mess up anyone who quotes you. Otherwise, nothing to report. bresh Null-town. Contributing where he can. He does bring up a good point here: On November 03 2014 11:42 Breshke wrote: I disagree with the superbia bandwagon and i know its early and votes can change but the amount of people that are voting him for such a small post are surprising. Elvis do you have no reads from the rest of the game even leaning town or scum? Immaterial could you explain to me why you think what superbia did makes him mafia? But I think the wagon on Superbia isn't anything to be worried about if he is in fact town. A lot of people are simply waiting on him to show up and offer some new evidence, and if I like what I see when he wakes up, I'll drop my own vote as well. Grack I like his open-mindedness: On November 03 2014 12:27 Grackaroni wrote: I just did give you something but I will comment on your Superbia suspicion. 1) I think it's pretty clear that he wasn't actually planning on doing nothing but tunneling a random person for the rest of the day. He wrote some trolly posts at the start of the game; there's not much we can read into that he's only made 2 posts when nothing was happening. 2) Same as #1. Those posts don't actually mean he's going to tunnel. We all enter differently; Some people are super serious from the start. I like to troll at the start of games. 3)This could be a good point. If he shows a pattern of writing trolly posts at the start of games as mafia and being serious as town then that would be the start of a good meta argument. 4)He's from the Netherlands. I assume he went to bed. but I would like to make note of his self-admission to trolling at the start of games. I'd rather wait and see what he does before making a decision. Elvis Null-scum. I don't really like his aversion to getting into the game: On November 03 2014 11:32 Elvis! wrote: Also I can't get any reasonable townreads as of yet, since everyone is just reading into an obviously trolly post. and particularly his aversion to the few points of discussion we have at this point: On November 03 2014 11:47 Elvis! wrote: @Breshke atm Kelsier leans slightly town since he isn't scared of posting a lot and he seems to be trying to be useful, e.g. wanting to talk about all kinds of things. Don't have a real read on the others, since most of the fluff is either about superbia/sentinel "tunneling" and not reading the op correctly. I've seen people get blamed for not reading the op (loafery, the last newbie game which you were in as well) endlessly to no avail. Atm sentinel looks really strongly like a second loafery, since people are calling him scum for not reading everything properly. I'll still have a look at what sentinel proceeds to post. He calls the entire discussion fluff, and then summarizes the game up to that point. (For the record, and for the final time, I read everything properly, I just read the "random" part with a grain of salt because, again, I host rigged "random" games on a regular basis and my first instinct is to compare knowledge of this game with my own knowledge.) And it seems like he's nervous to get into the game, but also like he's trying to participate but avoid contributing, if that makes sense. Probably the scummiest out of the active players, but with a few lurkers left and with kush and Superbia leaving the thread, that's not saying much. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25562 Posts
Remember, editing your posts is forbidden. It's already in the rules, but remember, no editing. If you feel you must correct your post, please make a second post to clarify your statements. You may put EBWOP ("Edit by way of post," a handy acronym invented by semioldguy) at the beginning of your post to indicate that you are clearing up a point you made. If your EBWOP post is several posts after your original, please quote your original post in your EBWOP post for the sake of clarity. | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9857 Posts
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
I don't like that this post makes it seem like you arn't in the mindset to try and find peoples alignments from their posts and need someone to specifically point stuff out to you. This isn't what i remember you being like last game. | ||
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Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
Posts like this although he was also modkilled and replaced that game | ||
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Fecalfeast
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Fecalfeast
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##vote: elvis! | ||
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
Kelsier im especially interested to hear what you think about Elvis. | ||
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Elvis!
Germany396 Posts
Mind I posted way into the night yesterda, when I couldn't really get my head around things. Will at least keep up with the thread until then and hunt all the scum! | ||
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KelsierSC
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