The fact that Yamato hasn't updated the op for replacements or important posts is annoying as shit. The voting thread is hard to read because there's no clear dilineators as to when days or groups start or end, and yamato seems to not really care that we understand what's going on. Which is fine. It just means I have to ahndle things.

Here's what I've put together as a timeline of things that have happened. do not give me towncred for this. this is for me. I'm posting it here so I can use it. I'm not doing this for you, b-baka!

team leader order determined: (link)
palm, marv, lian, oats, bats, kels (now damd), slam, bh

D1
Palm prop: Palm/marv/liancourt: (link)
palm reject: (link) .
      yays: Palm, Slam, Lian. Nays: Bats Marv, Oats, BH

Marv prop: lian/marv/batsnacks: (link)
Marv pass: (link)
      yays: marv, bats, dam, palm, oats, slam, lian. nays: BH

Mission 1: Success (link)

D2
Liam prop Lian/marv/bats/oats (link)
Lian reject. (link)
      Nays: Everyone but Lian. Yays: Lian

Oats prop lian/marv/bats/oats. (link)
Oats passes. (link)
      Yays: Marv, lian, oats, bats. Nays: Palm, BH, Slam.

Mission 2: Failure with 1 Sabotage (link)

D3
Batsnacks Proposes: Bat/Marv/Slam/Palm (link)
Bat team rejected.
      Yays: Marv and Bats. Nays: Everyone Else

Damdred Prop: Damdred Marv Lian Oats (link)
Damdred's Reject.
      Yays: Marv. Nays: Everyone Else

Slam Proposes: Marv/Palm/BH/Slam (link)
Slam's team Rejected.
      Yays: Marv. Nays: Everyone Else

Blazinghand

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October 31 2014 01:05 GMT

#941

Why are you reading that post, that post is only for me.

But yeah was eating dinner for the past 12 hours basically. I've got a couple more hours of dinner then I'll do some analysis. Off hand my initial thoughts include "marv is probably scum due to his voting D3" and "slam is probably town given how much he's caring and how he seems visibly bothered by the low activity". Need to do a more in-depth read to formulate a team though

Blazinghand

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October 31 2014 15:49 GMT

#945

so here's my basic thoughts

I'm including myself. Despite what people think of me, I'm town. I've done the right thing and people don't like my style or my attitude or whatever but honestly you guys are just afraid of the truth. I'll probably get nayvoted and this will go to Palmar, which isn't the worst thing, but at the same time I feel a need to defend myself here. Look, guys. I changed my mind a couple times on bats. I don't like Marv. I don't think Oats is autoscum for being the person added for Mission 2. All of these opinions make people think I'm scummy, but people seem to think that disagreeing with me is cause enough to call me scum. It's not, and you should all feel bad for doing this. Those of you like Oats who criticize me for copy and pasting my mission counter and adding new information to it can shove it; the fact of the matter is, that mission counter is useful for me and if you don't like it, you can ignore it.

In terms of who I am including. I'm including Slam and Palm. Both of them have voted in ways that have helped town. They passed marv's team, and like me, they opposed the oats/lian team when it counted. It's still possible they're scum since marv was on the D1 team and he was scum, but scum would have no reason to oppose the Oats/Lian/Marv/Bats D2 team, so I have a strong townread. I also particularly find Slam townie. He... he got motivated. He tried to push people. He showed a sense of renewed vigour and need to inject energy into a flagging town that is consistent with town motivations. Slam is normally illegible, but by golly, this game he's trying, and I'm down for that. Palmar gets credit for the nayvote, and i'm honestly less strong on that read. I haven't sensed the usual vibes from Palmar, but Resistance is a different game.

For my fourth and final member, I'm going with bats. And yes, I'm aware this is a third flip-flop on the Bats issue. I think his response to my post here: (link) is telling. I can't imagine scum would come out and be like "Your voting history is good... I don't actually know why I'm scum reading you". That's such a shit-eating answer, but it reflects where I think the town is this game. Scumreading people and not knowing why, then reflecting on it and being like "oh damn, I don't really know what I'm doing" because this game has no flips and limited info. That thought process is town.

So, with that in mind:

##suggest team:
Blazing "the baller" hand
Palm "the other hand" ar
Alakaslam A. K. A. Garthupalax, destroyer of worlds
Batsnacks... the batsnacks

Blazinghand

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October 31 2014 17:38 GMT

#958

Marv you have voted yay on teams including literally every player today. You have no right to gripe

Blazinghand

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October 31 2014 19:12 GMT

#965

So marv, you think bats is town?

Blazinghand

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October 31 2014 20:31 GMT

#972

you know you're on this team right now palm

Blazinghand

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October 31 2014 20:54 GMT

#974

So clearly he's not correct about people scum reading him

Blazinghand

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October 31 2014 21:38 GMT

#993

On November 01 2014 06:02 marvellosity wrote:

Show nested quote +

why do you ask me questions that are made clear by my filter?

Blazinghand

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November 03 2014 01:03 GMT

#1018

yeah I guess this is flip flop number 5 for me on bats.

Blazinghand

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November 03 2014 01:35 GMT

#1020

it was perfect in the sense that it told us bats was scum, and it passed so clearly people liked it

Blazinghand

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November 03 2014 18:11 GMT

#1057

hmm I don't like this team palm. I really don't see why there's all this trust in marv

Blazinghand

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November 04 2014 17:17 GMT

#1064

why should I care if the team has one scum on it?

Blazinghand

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November 04 2014 17:35 GMT

#1066

No, you're scum. so this team is bad

Blazinghand

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November 04 2014 17:44 GMT

#1070

I'm nayvoting this team. Is that not clear?

Blazinghand

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November 04 2014 17:45 GMT

#1071

so some context since apparently I'm not clear. Palm points out that this team mathematically has one scum on it, which is of course an inane observation, since the team will need 2 scum to fail. My response is:

On November 05 2014 02:17 Blazinghand wrote:
why should I care if the team has one scum on it?

I'm not asserting the team has only one scum, nor do I think this is a good scum. I'm just pointing out that Palmar's logic and reasoning skills are inferior to mine, because in the event there really was only one scum, this would be an acceptable team.

It is not.