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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
October 11 2014 01:34 GMT
#2215
this is basically the case on h1 right: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/468053-fantasy-football-ffl-mini?page=89#1773

hf's filter is like 100% 1-liners so it's hard to find what people are talking about for the case on h1
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
October 11 2014 01:34 GMT
#2218
On October 11 2014 10:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
No it doesn't.

BH really just has no idea what the fuck he's doing this game.


people BH has lead a lynch on so far: 1
people lynched so far who are scum: 1
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
October 11 2014 01:35 GMT
#2221
On October 11 2014 10:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 10:34 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 11 2014 10:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
No it doesn't.

BH really just has no idea what the fuck he's doing this game.


people BH has lead a lynch on so far: 1
people lynched so far who are scum: 1


You rng'd him. Stop taking credit for shit you had no control over.


I RNGed him, yes. But look at it this way: I may have no idea what I'm doing, but I don't let my incompetence get in the way of my talent.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
October 11 2014 01:36 GMT
#2225
On October 11 2014 10:35 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 10:33 Alakaslam wrote:
On October 11 2014 10:26 StorrZerg wrote:
On October 11 2014 10:23 Alakaslam wrote:
I find it amusing, during the timing I wanted to be misread, folks were in a firm "slam is untouchable" mindset

Now folks be like "I have no clue what he is"

Like you all drunk foh dayz? Sloooooooow reaction times.

Everyone all like "slam maybe scum taunting us? Mebbe he is scum?"

When all n1, it was like 10,000 yandere at HF

Like srs

What could yandere mean but poison?

And acted like BH not gonna die. That was other 3p the martyr claim.

But only now, after I had been yelling "I AM SKIMMU ATTAX ME" day 1 now ppl waking up to see some train left on a plane long ago.



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yeah..

K if you gonna start enforcing that I am banned a long time ago.

1. I have a bazillion one liners
2: memes out the window
3: flaming trolling and baiting
4: martyring
5. Talking about stimey d okmg fish
6. Massive images like what is that even
7. Gif a bunch
8; THERE IS NO 8

9: Numbedr nyne, Numbedr nyne, Numbedr nyne, turn me on, deadman

10) big nose, comb forward haircut, grinning
11- CHUPAZI
12$ it's like you said, no spanish- ¡HIJOLE! No Swahili- CHUPAZI again, no Russian (nuclear winter mafia)

Like srs put dat back or kick me out with complain to GMarshal. If you srs do that I will recommend you go to Smashboards. You should get along fine with HBC | Ryker and HBC | Anus and HBC | Dolt



cool. i can't wait to talk post game


Alakaslam will get shot by the vigi almost certainly. And if he isn't, you just have to policy lynch him. he's not readable and doesn't play the game.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
October 11 2014 01:38 GMT
#2233
On October 11 2014 01:02 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 00:57 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 11 2014 00:54 Holyflare wrote:
Because you more than conveniently don't explain anything about like 90% of your reads and you have these 2 scum reads but nothing about them ever changes so reading these other people looks really odd from you when you don't say anything about why they're town over damd/lian being scum. It's really really strange that you have 2 scum reads but wpuld rather arbitrarily call other people town instead of pushing them

I'm going through the game and making certain that those two are in fact the scummiest players to me before I go about pushing a lynch on anyone. Does that not make sense? Should I just RNG a new target and push them incessantly instead of reading the game?

This post Mod 12, storr is 0


Your whole game is throwing out random town reads that don't make sense and don't line up with any thought process. What really blew it for you was calling me town so conveniently based on those points you listed. I've been saying scum is very likely to bus OO because that's what he asked to do last game he was mafia and cba to play, however as you pointed out, my reason before that was "made up" therefore to you all I've done is randomly defend your scum read, pushed a flipped town and lie about a reason so that people hop on a mafia wagon. All those things are very likely for me to do as mafia. Very very likely. Yet they are super weird for anyone to town read me on. These are pretty much your only elaborated reads in the entire game too, the rest of your never lynch list isn't explained at all. All of these town reads aren't explained. Yojr scum reads aren't explained and haven't changed.

And my red check


So the case on H1 is

1. H1 doesn't explain anything about 90% of his reads. he has many "these people are odd" reads.
2. H1 reads damd and lian as being scum, and instead of pushing them, townreads a bunch of other people.
3. The townreads he throws up are nonsensical and don't come from any reason
4. HF acted scummy and H1 townread HF for it

is this accurate?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
October 11 2014 01:40 GMT
#2241
On October 11 2014 10:39 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 10:38 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 11 2014 01:02 Holyflare wrote:
On October 11 2014 00:57 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 11 2014 00:54 Holyflare wrote:
Because you more than conveniently don't explain anything about like 90% of your reads and you have these 2 scum reads but nothing about them ever changes so reading these other people looks really odd from you when you don't say anything about why they're town over damd/lian being scum. It's really really strange that you have 2 scum reads but wpuld rather arbitrarily call other people town instead of pushing them

I'm going through the game and making certain that those two are in fact the scummiest players to me before I go about pushing a lynch on anyone. Does that not make sense? Should I just RNG a new target and push them incessantly instead of reading the game?

This post Mod 12, storr is 0


Your whole game is throwing out random town reads that don't make sense and don't line up with any thought process. What really blew it for you was calling me town so conveniently based on those points you listed. I've been saying scum is very likely to bus OO because that's what he asked to do last game he was mafia and cba to play, however as you pointed out, my reason before that was "made up" therefore to you all I've done is randomly defend your scum read, pushed a flipped town and lie about a reason so that people hop on a mafia wagon. All those things are very likely for me to do as mafia. Very very likely. Yet they are super weird for anyone to town read me on. These are pretty much your only elaborated reads in the entire game too, the rest of your never lynch list isn't explained at all. All of these town reads aren't explained. Yojr scum reads aren't explained and haven't changed.

And my red check


So the case on H1 is

1. H1 doesn't explain anything about 90% of his reads. he has many "these people are odd" reads.
2. H1 reads damd and lian as being scum, and instead of pushing them, townreads a bunch of other people.
3. The townreads he throws up are nonsensical and don't come from any reason
4. HF acted scummy and H1 townread HF for it

is this accurate?


The case on h1 is that he made up reasons to townread Holyflare after thinking he was scummy for all of day 1.

Read everything that I said about him at the start of day 2.


OK, so a nonsensical townread on HF. just out of curiosity, did this townread begin during N1 or D2?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
October 11 2014 01:49 GMT
#2250
On October 11 2014 10:40 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 10:38 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 11 2014 01:02 Holyflare wrote:
On October 11 2014 00:57 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 11 2014 00:54 Holyflare wrote:
Because you more than conveniently don't explain anything about like 90% of your reads and you have these 2 scum reads but nothing about them ever changes so reading these other people looks really odd from you when you don't say anything about why they're town over damd/lian being scum. It's really really strange that you have 2 scum reads but wpuld rather arbitrarily call other people town instead of pushing them

I'm going through the game and making certain that those two are in fact the scummiest players to me before I go about pushing a lynch on anyone. Does that not make sense? Should I just RNG a new target and push them incessantly instead of reading the game?

This post Mod 12, storr is 0


Your whole game is throwing out random town reads that don't make sense and don't line up with any thought process. What really blew it for you was calling me town so conveniently based on those points you listed. I've been saying scum is very likely to bus OO because that's what he asked to do last game he was mafia and cba to play, however as you pointed out, my reason before that was "made up" therefore to you all I've done is randomly defend your scum read, pushed a flipped town and lie about a reason so that people hop on a mafia wagon. All those things are very likely for me to do as mafia. Very very likely. Yet they are super weird for anyone to town read me on. These are pretty much your only elaborated reads in the entire game too, the rest of your never lynch list isn't explained at all. All of these town reads aren't explained. Yojr scum reads aren't explained and haven't changed.

And my red check


So the case on H1 is

1. H1 doesn't explain anything about 90% of his reads. he has many "these people are odd" reads.
2. H1 reads damd and lian as being scum, and instead of pushing them, townreads a bunch of other people.
3. The townreads he throws up are nonsensical and don't come from any reason
4. HF acted scummy and H1 townread HF for it

is this accurate?


add
H1 defended "oo"
H1 had been pushing liam day 1, then decided to just vote "oo" because "ill end up here"


Yeah, H1's reason for voting OO is shit, as is his initial defense.

so here's my analysis of things

H1 comes in and defends OO http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23073759 , saying things like "
great post 10/10. Still don't think OO is scum though." and "Maybe you walk me through your thought process again as to why matyring to RNG is scummy?"

when he returns several hours later, he says "stop with the rng discussion" and "OO is a lurker lynch and an RNG lynch. Where the hell is batsnacks..fuck it" (in reference to hf saying batsnacks should stop him from policying)

and then he votes OO for shit reasons http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23075648

alright.... i'm convinced. I don't care about H1's weird d1 shit. the fact that he's #3 on the OO wagon makes him look townie, but honestly at the time he swapped over, OO hadn't posted yet. And... hmm. yeah, decent. ok, I don't like his D1 play. I don't see signs of a mafia mindset in it, but how he played is how I might expect a scum player to play, which is, try to derail the RnG, then hop on as an early vote (with the opportunity to hop off later). I don't think it's implausible he was just playing slow as a townie D1 though, and though he had shit reasons... he did jump on really early. long before it was clear OO got lynched. if I'm assuming that he's scum, I'm assuming that H1 played a real long game, and was thinking "after OO flips, I want to be an early wagon adopter". not implausible, but a difficult move and something only a truly skilled player like myself could pull off. He might have done it as scum. The fact that he didn't push the RNG lynch too hard after he got on the wagon is a bit damning, though.

I consider H1 to be lynchable for it. But not today. Not with OWS literally blatantly trying to save OO.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
October 11 2014 01:51 GMT
#2253
On October 11 2014 10:43 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 10:40 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 11 2014 10:39 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 11 2014 10:38 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 11 2014 01:02 Holyflare wrote:
On October 11 2014 00:57 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 11 2014 00:54 Holyflare wrote:
Because you more than conveniently don't explain anything about like 90% of your reads and you have these 2 scum reads but nothing about them ever changes so reading these other people looks really odd from you when you don't say anything about why they're town over damd/lian being scum. It's really really strange that you have 2 scum reads but wpuld rather arbitrarily call other people town instead of pushing them

I'm going through the game and making certain that those two are in fact the scummiest players to me before I go about pushing a lynch on anyone. Does that not make sense? Should I just RNG a new target and push them incessantly instead of reading the game?

This post Mod 12, storr is 0


Your whole game is throwing out random town reads that don't make sense and don't line up with any thought process. What really blew it for you was calling me town so conveniently based on those points you listed. I've been saying scum is very likely to bus OO because that's what he asked to do last game he was mafia and cba to play, however as you pointed out, my reason before that was "made up" therefore to you all I've done is randomly defend your scum read, pushed a flipped town and lie about a reason so that people hop on a mafia wagon. All those things are very likely for me to do as mafia. Very very likely. Yet they are super weird for anyone to town read me on. These are pretty much your only elaborated reads in the entire game too, the rest of your never lynch list isn't explained at all. All of these town reads aren't explained. Yojr scum reads aren't explained and haven't changed.

And my red check


So the case on H1 is

1. H1 doesn't explain anything about 90% of his reads. he has many "these people are odd" reads.
2. H1 reads damd and lian as being scum, and instead of pushing them, townreads a bunch of other people.
3. The townreads he throws up are nonsensical and don't come from any reason
4. HF acted scummy and H1 townread HF for it

is this accurate?


The case on h1 is that he made up reasons to townread Holyflare after thinking he was scummy for all of day 1.

Read everything that I said about him at the start of day 2.


OK, so a nonsensical townread on HF. just out of curiosity, did this townread begin during N1 or D2?


N1 but the majority of his reasons were day 1, i don't really think he scum read me i can't remember


so it wouldn't be in response to mafia shooting you, discovering your'e vet (or had medic protection) and him trying to buddy you pre-claim or something

in any case, my conclusion is that the h1 lynch is not an awful lynch. I suspect it has a 40%+ chance to flip scum. However, it's not even closer to the OWS lynch which is like 80%+ chance to flip scum, so I will not be changing.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
October 11 2014 01:51 GMT
#2254
On October 11 2014 10:50 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I was never trying to save OO. Stop being such a jubjub.

I explained it a bajillion times and you're just not listening.


Sure, you weren't trying to save OO, just 'jokingly' lynch someone who wasn't OO... thereby saving OO.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
October 11 2014 01:53 GMT
#2258
On October 11 2014 10:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Also, if you want to argue about saving OO, hopeless actually tried to do this as well.

Read Damdred's post on how hopeless was interacting with people before he moved his vote.


Yeah, read my analysis of H1. he too is scummy. Not like you, he didn't put a super serious effort into it, and he got onto the wagon way early, which is less scummy. Though I just realized, it's possible he was planning to jump off, then circumstances made it impossible. So that's another way his actions would make sense for scum. In any case, OWS, you die first.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
October 11 2014 01:54 GMT
#2261
On October 11 2014 10:53 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I will lie down and get lynched/shot if hopeless doesn't flip scum.

That's how confident I am.


If, through some unlikely circumstance, H1 flips town and you're town and you lie down and get lynched, you're awful. Don't do that. Always fight. Always. Make your voice heard. Write cases. force people to take stances while you still have a chance to speak. if you die, you become conftown, so you have to make your time valuable.

basic stuff, people.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
October 11 2014 01:55 GMT
#2263
I liked liancourt's stubbornness earlier. not sure what he's up to now. bleh. not a good lynch today
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
October 11 2014 01:58 GMT
#2267
On October 11 2014 10:56 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 10:54 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 11 2014 10:53 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I will lie down and get lynched/shot if hopeless doesn't flip scum.

That's how confident I am.


If, through some unlikely circumstance, H1 flips town and you're town and you lie down and get lynched, you're awful. Don't do that. Always fight. Always. Make your voice heard. Write cases. force people to take stances while you still have a chance to speak. if you die, you become conftown, so you have to make your time valuable.

basic stuff, people.


It's a form of confident rhetoric.

Dude.


It's dumb confident rhetoric, because it's literally saying "If I'm wrong, I'm also going to be incompetent in the future"

how could that possibly be a useful thing to say
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
October 11 2014 01:59 GMT
#2271
yeah instead of reading about jokes, i'm gonna go eat dinner. i'll be back online in an hour and we can discuss more things. feel free to leave questions for me.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
October 11 2014 02:02 GMT
#2276
On October 11 2014 11:00 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Well we're not getting his vote. So that's a wash since he doesn't feel like paying attention.


You're getting my vote, OWS. You have it right now.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
October 11 2014 02:07 GMT
#2279
Storr, vote OWS. Look at him. Or just look at his D1 and tell me he's town! Tell me that based of his D1 contributions, and his attempt to save his scumbuddy, OWS is town! Do that. please.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
October 11 2014 02:16 GMT
#2290
On October 11 2014 11:13 StorrZerg wrote:
Seriously BH. The day 1 stuff has been talked about a million times. I've given my stance on day 1.

You need to convince me IF you really want to lynch him, why he is acting scummy PAST day 1.

its honestly a big cluster fuck of waste of time to keep going on about day 1 stuff, when i think day 1 isn't scum.


well he kinda isn't acting scummy after D1, so I don't know what to say. D1 is what's impotant
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
October 11 2014 04:16 GMT
#2515
Not bad HF! Not bad at all.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
October 11 2014 04:19 GMT
#2518
You guys can thank me later for catching the third scum
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
October 11 2014 04:33 GMT
#2533
Gf and framer together is unlikely and would be pretty abusive imo
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