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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 10 2014 15:32 GMT
#1761
On October 11 2014 00:01 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2014 23:54 KelsierSC wrote:
has anyone stepped in to defend lian at any point?


HF/bats maybe more.

thing is people are willing to call him scum, even agree with points made against him, how ever no one seems to be putting their vote with their mouth. (hopeless day 1 for example)


so do you think no one putting their vote with their mouth makes lian scummy or town?

It feels towny to me.

no one really defending him, other players happy to nudge you on towards lynching him
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 10 2014 15:34 GMT
#1762
On October 10 2014 23:36 batsnacks wrote:
It sounds really reasonable.

But

I don't think the reason store is tunneling Liam is because Liam is new here. Also last game the new person was much, much different than Liam. That guy got really bitter and shut down under pressure. Liam is not shutting down.

So, that sort of nullifies Liam's logic. Even though it sounds really good.

It's too late in the game to be playing the "I'm new" card, and what Liam just wrote is more or less a really wordy iteration of the "I'm new" card.


I don't think lian is playing a "i'm new card"

his reason for reading storr as town is because he looked at a previous game and saw it was storr's usual play style.
Zerg for Life
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
October 10 2014 15:42 GMT
#1763
Yeah but I don't think store's reason for scum reading Liam is because he's new. And that's what Liam said.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
October 10 2014 15:47 GMT
#1764
On October 11 2014 00:42 batsnacks wrote:
Yeah but I don't think store's reason for scum reading Liam is because he's new. And that's what Liam said.


correct, nor does it have to do with his rng stuff on bh
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 10 2014 15:47 GMT
#1765
On October 11 2014 00:42 batsnacks wrote:
Yeah but I don't think store's reason for scum reading Liam is because he's new. And that's what Liam said.


yeh I suppose he did in as many words.

I want to know what storr thinks about the unvote and flip.
Zerg for Life
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 10 2014 15:48 GMT
#1766
On October 11 2014 00:32 Hopeless1der wrote:
storr and kelsier town. will make case on damdred shortly.


More free unexplained town reads??
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 10 2014 15:50 GMT
#1767
All you've done is stick to damd/liam being scummy and then thrown out these free town reads conveniently and you still call them scummy before even reading everyone else.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 10 2014 15:51 GMT
#1768
On October 11 2014 00:50 Holyflare wrote:
All you've done is stick to damd/liam being scummy and then thrown out these free town reads conveniently and you still call them scummy before even reading everyone else.

how does it matter whether I've read everyone else?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 10 2014 15:54 GMT
#1769
Because you more than conveniently don't explain anything about like 90% of your reads and you have these 2 scum reads but nothing about them ever changes so reading these other people looks really odd from you when you don't say anything about why they're town over damd/lian being scum. It's really really strange that you have 2 scum reads but wpuld rather arbitrarily call other people town instead of pushing them
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 10 2014 15:55 GMT
#1770
On October 11 2014 00:51 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 00:50 Holyflare wrote:
All you've done is stick to damd/liam being scummy and then thrown out these free town reads conveniently and you still call them scummy before even reading everyone else.

how does it matter whether I've read everyone else?


if damd/lian are the 2 scum then why is dam making some huge post on lian being mafia and lian constnatly picking dam as one of his top scum reads.
Zerg for Life
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 10 2014 15:57 GMT
#1771
On October 11 2014 00:54 Holyflare wrote:
Because you more than conveniently don't explain anything about like 90% of your reads and you have these 2 scum reads but nothing about them ever changes so reading these other people looks really odd from you when you don't say anything about why they're town over damd/lian being scum. It's really really strange that you have 2 scum reads but wpuld rather arbitrarily call other people town instead of pushing them

I'm going through the game and making certain that those two are in fact the scummiest players to me before I go about pushing a lynch on anyone. Does that not make sense? Should I just RNG a new target and push them incessantly instead of reading the game?

This post Mod 12, storr is 0
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 10 2014 15:58 GMT
#1772
23091395 mod 12= 11 = obiwan.

grats BH, RBGesus wins again
##Vote: ObiWanShinobi
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 10 2014 16:02 GMT
#1773
On October 11 2014 00:57 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 00:54 Holyflare wrote:
Because you more than conveniently don't explain anything about like 90% of your reads and you have these 2 scum reads but nothing about them ever changes so reading these other people looks really odd from you when you don't say anything about why they're town over damd/lian being scum. It's really really strange that you have 2 scum reads but wpuld rather arbitrarily call other people town instead of pushing them

I'm going through the game and making certain that those two are in fact the scummiest players to me before I go about pushing a lynch on anyone. Does that not make sense? Should I just RNG a new target and push them incessantly instead of reading the game?

This post Mod 12, storr is 0


Your whole game is throwing out random town reads that don't make sense and don't line up with any thought process. What really blew it for you was calling me town so conveniently based on those points you listed. I've been saying scum is very likely to bus OO because that's what he asked to do last game he was mafia and cba to play, however as you pointed out, my reason before that was "made up" therefore to you all I've done is randomly defend your scum read, pushed a flipped town and lie about a reason so that people hop on a mafia wagon. All those things are very likely for me to do as mafia. Very very likely. Yet they are super weird for anyone to town read me on. These are pretty much your only elaborated reads in the entire game too, the rest of your never lynch list isn't explained at all. All of these town reads aren't explained. Yojr scum reads aren't explained and haven't changed.

And my red check
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
October 10 2014 16:05 GMT
#1774
On October 11 2014 00:47 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 00:42 batsnacks wrote:
Yeah but I don't think store's reason for scum reading Liam is because he's new. And that's what Liam said.


yeh I suppose he did in as many words.

I want to know what storr thinks about the unvote and flip.


Well, since Liam didn't actually address anything he's being scum read for, I doubt store is going to be changing his read.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 10 2014 16:10 GMT
#1775
so...im NOT supposed to be reading you as town HF? like wtf is your argument? I didnt solid townread you until N1.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 10 2014 16:11 GMT
#1776
Tick tock guys. The window for being confirmed town for voting hopeless is closing guys.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 10 2014 16:11 GMT
#1777
On October 11 2014 01:10 Hopeless1der wrote:
so...im NOT supposed to be reading you as town HF? like wtf is your argument? I didnt solid townread you until N1.


People aren't really listening that i have a red check so I'm convincing them
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 10 2014 16:12 GMT
#1778
oshit
##unvote
##vote Hopeless1der


NOOO THE RULES WONT LET ME BE CONFIRRMED TOWN
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 10 2014 16:12 GMT
#1779
w/e, have to prep some maps for a meeting in an hour. i'll have case out in the next 2 hours on damdred
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 10 2014 16:13 GMT
#1780
On October 11 2014 01:12 Hopeless1der wrote:
oshit
##unvote
##vote Hopeless1der


NOOO THE RULES WONT LET ME BE CONFIRRMED TOWN


Yes well at least that's correct
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