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On October 10 2014 21:33 batsnacks wrote:Really though. He freaked out last game about my soft claim that wasn't a soft claim, and here you've "claimed" like 10 times and he hasn't said anything.
Yeah and in that one game I policy lynched a guy day 1 for not reading his role pm and in the next one I called policy lynches stupid.
I do things because I feel like doing them.
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On October 11 2014 02:00 Holyflare wrote:
Hopeless was active though it's just that he got caught and THEN went inactive
when did I get caught and at what point did I become inactive?
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On October 11 2014 01:32 liancourt wrote:
Dude that random random vote...I dont even wanna read your fluff infested filter now. You dug your own grave. Gg hope.
DOES THIS NOT BOTHER ANYONE?
hope was clearly joking, and look how serious lian takes it, way to serious........
this trumps his reason to read and look into the filter. and has now "dug his own grave" because of rng joke vote clearly mimicking bh.... hell i bet the math is wrong too
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And in this case, I generally don't.
I'm just crossing fingers Hopeless flips mafia, so I can trust that even if you baddies shoot/lynch me, we should be good to go.
For some reason everyone has a hardon for killing me all the time.
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Blazinghand
United States25557 Posts
On October 11 2014 02:03 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 01:32 liancourt wrote:
Dude that random random vote...I dont even wanna read your fluff infested filter now. You dug your own grave. Gg hope. DOES THIS NOT BOTHER ANYONE? hope was clearly joking, and look how serious lian takes it, way to serious........ this trumps his reason to read and look into the filter. and has now "dug his own grave" because of rng joke vote clearly mimicking bh.... hell i bet the math is wrong too
I'm assuming he's lying about the math since his vote ended up on the wagon you'd expect him to vote to save himself, and he's trolling. I'll check.
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On October 11 2014 01:43 Holyflare wrote:
It baffles me that 100% of the people aren't on hopeless yet
meh i've stated my opinion on him. if i need to vote him i will
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I love how everyone is completely ignoring the back and forth I had with hopeless at day start, like I don't have any actual reasons to vote him.
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Blazinghand
United States25557 Posts
On October 11 2014 02:02 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 01:56 Blazinghand wrote:On October 08 2014 09:46 batsnacks wrote:
Obiwan's posting is not similar to last game where he was scum. If I unvote him that will probably be why.
Could you expand on this a bit? You were once an OWS voter but now you've moved off, and I'd like to know a bit more about what about OWS' posting makes you think he's not scum I think he's town because of how he defended himself n1. Seemed legit. I agree that he's done scummy stuff, stuff you and others have brought up... That's why I didn't say anything when you said "you'll have to do better than that bats" or something earlier.
what are your thoughts on Hopeless? Earlier he was on your "would lynch" list (link), but then you complained about spending all day talking about him (link) even though you admit he bailed after he became a topic (link).
Given all this, why the vote on Damdred? It seems to me that you should be eager to vote hopeless, who is actually a legit wagon. And if you're not, why aren't you yelling at people to get on the Damdred wagon?
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On October 11 2014 02:04 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 02:03 StorrZerg wrote:On October 11 2014 01:32 liancourt wrote:
Dude that random random vote...I dont even wanna read your fluff infested filter now. You dug your own grave. Gg hope. DOES THIS NOT BOTHER ANYONE? hope was clearly joking, and look how serious lian takes it, way to serious........ this trumps his reason to read and look into the filter. and has now "dug his own grave" because of rng joke vote clearly mimicking bh.... hell i bet the math is wrong too I'm assuming he's lying about the math since his vote ended up on the wagon you'd expect him to vote to save himself, and he's trolling. I'll check.
meh nvm maybe this isn't as serious as i thought. lian did vote hopeless after hopeless did move his vote to obi.
but i think that statement was clearly trolling by hopeless and regardless he has to vote obi since thats the only other wagon today that might go instead of him.
so while not as strong, i still think thats kinda bs from lian to drop reading hopeless and vote him.
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On October 11 2014 02:07 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 02:02 batsnacks wrote:On October 11 2014 01:56 Blazinghand wrote:On October 08 2014 09:46 batsnacks wrote:
Obiwan's posting is not similar to last game where he was scum. If I unvote him that will probably be why.
Could you expand on this a bit? You were once an OWS voter but now you've moved off, and I'd like to know a bit more about what about OWS' posting makes you think he's not scum I think he's town because of how he defended himself n1. Seemed legit. I agree that he's done scummy stuff, stuff you and others have brought up... That's why I didn't say anything when you said "you'll have to do better than that bats" or something earlier. what are your thoughts on Hopeless? Earlier he was on your "would lynch" list (link), but then you complained about spending all day talking about him (link) even though you admit he bailed after he became a topic (link). Given all this, why the vote on Damdred? It seems to me that you should be eager to vote hopeless, who is actually a legit wagon. And if you're not, why aren't you yelling at people to get on the Damdred wagon?
because its badsnacks
also note lian really wants to push damdred (i think still.. since he pulled his pressure off me)
yet jumps to hopeless instead cause of that bs reason so....
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On October 11 2014 02:03 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 21:33 batsnacks wrote:On October 10 2014 21:22 Holyflare wrote:
Because he's a twat face Really though. He freaked out last game about my soft claim that wasn't a soft claim, and here you've "claimed" like 10 times and he hasn't said anything. Yeah and in that one game I policy lynched a guy day 1 for not reading his role pm and in the next one I called policy lynches stupid. I do things because I feel like doing them.
Me too
Scum obiwan takes the path of least resistance... Obiwan is not taking the path of least resistance. I think HF already said something to that effect and I agree.
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Blazinghand
United States25557 Posts
On October 11 2014 00:57 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 00:54 Holyflare wrote:
Because you more than conveniently don't explain anything about like 90% of your reads and you have these 2 scum reads but nothing about them ever changes so reading these other people looks really odd from you when you don't say anything about why they're town over damd/lian being scum. It's really really strange that you have 2 scum reads but wpuld rather arbitrarily call other people town instead of pushing them I'm going through the game and making certain that those two are in fact the scummiest players to me before I go about pushing a lynch on anyone. Does that not make sense? Should I just RNG a new target and push them incessantly instead of reading the game? This post Mod 12, storr is 0
This would make
1. Hopeless1der
2. Damdred
3. Palmer
4. Alakaslam
5. Grackaroni
6. liancourt
7. KelsierSC
8. batsnacks
9. Holyflare
10. BlazingHand
11. ObiWanShinobi
0. StorrZerg
His post count for the post is 23091395. 23091395 mod 12 is 11. So he did in fact RNG OWS, legitimately. Looking at the timing of his other posts on the site, he didn't game it.
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On October 11 2014 02:09 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 02:03 Palmar wrote:On October 10 2014 21:33 batsnacks wrote:On October 10 2014 21:22 Holyflare wrote:
Because he's a twat face Really though. He freaked out last game about my soft claim that wasn't a soft claim, and here you've "claimed" like 10 times and he hasn't said anything. Yeah and in that one game I policy lynched a guy day 1 for not reading his role pm and in the next one I called policy lynches stupid. I do things because I feel like doing them. Me too Scum obiwan takes the path of least resistance... Obiwan is not taking the path of least resistance. I think HF already said something to that effect and I agree.
I lynched Palmar when I could've lynched SD.
I'd say that's anything but the path of least resistance.
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Blazinghand
United States25557 Posts
On October 11 2014 02:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 02:09 batsnacks wrote:On October 11 2014 02:03 Palmar wrote:On October 10 2014 21:33 batsnacks wrote:On October 10 2014 21:22 Holyflare wrote:
Because he's a twat face Really though. He freaked out last game about my soft claim that wasn't a soft claim, and here you've "claimed" like 10 times and he hasn't said anything. Yeah and in that one game I policy lynched a guy day 1 for not reading his role pm and in the next one I called policy lynches stupid. I do things because I feel like doing them. Me too Scum obiwan takes the path of least resistance... Obiwan is not taking the path of least resistance. I think HF already said something to that effect and I agree. I lynched Palmar when I could've lynched SD. I'd say that's anything but the path of least resistance.
clearly palmar, with his massive amount of thread presence, was a real threat to you. so much thread presence, so many posts, he was all over the thread. yes, this is a good point you make, definitely valid.
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On October 11 2014 02:13 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 02:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 11 2014 02:09 batsnacks wrote:On October 11 2014 02:03 Palmar wrote:On October 10 2014 21:33 batsnacks wrote:On October 10 2014 21:22 Holyflare wrote:
Because he's a twat face Really though. He freaked out last game about my soft claim that wasn't a soft claim, and here you've "claimed" like 10 times and he hasn't said anything. Yeah and in that one game I policy lynched a guy day 1 for not reading his role pm and in the next one I called policy lynches stupid. I do things because I feel like doing them. Me too Scum obiwan takes the path of least resistance... Obiwan is not taking the path of least resistance. I think HF already said something to that effect and I agree. I lynched Palmar when I could've lynched SD. I'd say that's anything but the path of least resistance. clearly palmar, with his massive amount of thread presence, was a real threat to you. so much thread presence, so many posts, he was all over the thread. yes, this is a good point you make, definitely valid.
We're talking about a completely different game at this point.
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On October 11 2014 02:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 02:09 batsnacks wrote:On October 11 2014 02:03 Palmar wrote:On October 10 2014 21:33 batsnacks wrote:On October 10 2014 21:22 Holyflare wrote:
Because he's a twat face Really though. He freaked out last game about my soft claim that wasn't a soft claim, and here you've "claimed" like 10 times and he hasn't said anything. Yeah and in that one game I policy lynched a guy day 1 for not reading his role pm and in the next one I called policy lynches stupid. I do things because I feel like doing them. Me too Scum obiwan takes the path of least resistance... Obiwan is not taking the path of least resistance. I think HF already said something to that effect and I agree. I lynched Palmar when I could've lynched SD. I'd say that's anything but the path of least resistance.
lets be honest, that was just hilarious on your end. + you had no idea hf was going to hammer.
you would have looked decent for trying to pull it off a town flip sd. so it was benefit to you. sure doesn't align with "least resistance" but it does set you up, for least resistance for the next day.
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On October 11 2014 02:14 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 02:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 11 2014 02:09 batsnacks wrote:On October 11 2014 02:03 Palmar wrote:On October 10 2014 21:33 batsnacks wrote:On October 10 2014 21:22 Holyflare wrote:
Because he's a twat face Really though. He freaked out last game about my soft claim that wasn't a soft claim, and here you've "claimed" like 10 times and he hasn't said anything. Yeah and in that one game I policy lynched a guy day 1 for not reading his role pm and in the next one I called policy lynches stupid. I do things because I feel like doing them. Me too Scum obiwan takes the path of least resistance... Obiwan is not taking the path of least resistance. I think HF already said something to that effect and I agree. I lynched Palmar when I could've lynched SD. I'd say that's anything but the path of least resistance. lets be honest, that was just hilarious on your end. + you had no idea hf was going to hammer. you would have looked decent for trying to pull it off a town flip sd. so it was benefit to you. sure doesn't align with "least resistance" but it does set you up, for least resistance for the next day.
Many things were hilarious about that lynch. I was gaming the system so hard the scoreboard turned into diamonds.
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On October 11 2014 02:03 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 01:57 Damdred wrote:On October 11 2014 01:37 Blazinghand wrote:On October 10 2014 21:30 Damdred wrote:
In HF I trust, and I realize I can't get lia lynched today unto the other person I think is scum then.
Kel, I never said I was tunneling him. Infact i'm pretty sure besides that one post and calling him out for not doing anything i've not tunneled on him really. Also I have done things this game, my case is close to storrs but I still feel it scum reads him for slightly different reasons, the list post reason is the same but meh. And I wanted to make a case and try to get my top scum read lynched. hey damdred, i'm not sure what your read is on obiwan. you don't like his attempt to save his scumbuddy (link) but don't call him scum for it. You interact with OWS a bit here (link)and that's it. Have you read OWS' filter? Do you still not like his attempt to save OO? What do you think of his followup today? I have read OWS filter and been watching him closely. I did not like the trying to get people off of OO, however i've been thinking really hard whether this would be scum motivated or town motivated. And i'm just not sure that scum would try to pull off people on their partner that would get lynched anyway and bring the heat down on themselves. I do not think that their was any chance that OO would not be lynched. I personally like shenanigans, but I wouldn't of been for it to switch to Palmar thats for sure especially on someone who was refusing to play. For the record I still do not like that he tried to pull people off even as a joke and the retreat from that is still scummy. OWS followup today has been generally towny, he has put in a good bit of effort defending himself and pushing a hopeless lynch. His day 2 is 100% better than d1 or N1, however I do still have a few problems with him but i've got a tentative town read still on him but wouldn't complain about a bullet to him. So you'd be fine if a vigi shot him but don't want to lynch him? ;_; I get what you're saying about the shenannigans being a long shot. It certainly didn't seem particularly likely to succeed, and that's a point in OWS' favor. He also did take some crap for them, but he didn't take that much crap because it SEEMED so trolling. In my opinion OWS picked a semilurker and tried to see if people were interested, and left himself a verbal path of retreat by making it ridiculous and then backpedaling. Like, it was super non-obvious that it was a joke, and i'm pretty sure after suggesting it and hearing a reaction or two, he realized it wasn't happening and focused on saving his own skin. he didn't stick his neck out THAT far to save OO. He didn't argue long, he quickly said it was a joke. Heck, even with me shitting all over OWS constantly, I can barely russle up a vote or two against him; it was a calculated risk, which is pretty much what you'd expect from scum trying to save OO at that point. Obviously, scum wouldn't take a big risk or fakeclaim to save him or something, but the small risk, that's okay. I will agree that during D2 OWS has significantly stepped up his game. This makes me slightly less sure he's scum. That being said, I don't think the way his reads developed was natural, it doesn't seem to me like "town read on hf, scumread on h1" was what would have come from what he had said earlier. Also interestingly, it seems like his reasons for voting h1 evolved from "I'm voting him due to the red check" to "I'm also voting him because he's scummy" when the red check thing stopped existing. It seems more like he just wants to be on the big wagon than he actually has an underlying scumread or thought process driving his actions. does that make sense to you?
I'm honestly really struggling with OWS alignment, your arguments are actually pretty logical and have a good point behind them. There was a good chance at shenanigans because of the way the policy lynch had went. I've seen Obi play as scum before and played with him in a lot of town games and I always have a hard time reading him, right now he looks like his town game with the way hes come on.
But some of his responses even in d2 worry me like his refusing to defend himself against kel peaceing out soon as the pressure is gone. But hes done a good bit of good stuff today to like his pressure on hopeless. Your argument is solid but i'm not sure if obi is the lynch for today. Pretty sure he isn't
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On October 11 2014 02:07 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 02:02 batsnacks wrote:On October 11 2014 01:56 Blazinghand wrote:On October 08 2014 09:46 batsnacks wrote:
Obiwan's posting is not similar to last game where he was scum. If I unvote him that will probably be why.
Could you expand on this a bit? You were once an OWS voter but now you've moved off, and I'd like to know a bit more about what about OWS' posting makes you think he's not scum I think he's town because of how he defended himself n1. Seemed legit. I agree that he's done scummy stuff, stuff you and others have brought up... That's why I didn't say anything when you said "you'll have to do better than that bats" or something earlier. what are your thoughts on Hopeless? Earlier he was on your "would lynch" list (link), but then you complained about spending all day talking about him (link) even though you admit he bailed after he became a topic (link). Given all this, why the vote on Damdred? It seems to me that you should be eager to vote hopeless, who is actually a legit wagon. And if you're not, why aren't you yelling at people to get on the Damdred wagon?
I think hopeless is by far the scummiest person in the game and the most likely to flip mafia. I just feel like voting damdred right now. I think he might be mafia, but I couldn't convince anyone he is so I haven't said anything. Besides we have like 10 hours.
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On October 11 2014 02:10 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 00:57 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 11 2014 00:54 Holyflare wrote:
Because you more than conveniently don't explain anything about like 90% of your reads and you have these 2 scum reads but nothing about them ever changes so reading these other people looks really odd from you when you don't say anything about why they're town over damd/lian being scum. It's really really strange that you have 2 scum reads but wpuld rather arbitrarily call other people town instead of pushing them I'm going through the game and making certain that those two are in fact the scummiest players to me before I go about pushing a lynch on anyone. Does that not make sense? Should I just RNG a new target and push them incessantly instead of reading the game? This post Mod 12, storr is 0 This would make 1. Hopeless1der 2. Damdred 3. Palmer 4. Alakaslam 5. Grackaroni 6. liancourt 7. KelsierSC 8. batsnacks 9. Holyflare 10. BlazingHand 11. ObiWanShinobi 0. StorrZerg His post count for the post is 23091395. 23091395 mod 12 is 11. So he did in fact RNG OWS, legitimately. Looking at the timing of his other posts on the site, he didn't game it.
lets say, it was possible the system was gamed. I mean the end result is, hopeless landed on someone that has a chance to be pushed over himself.
Even if its not gamed, it stands to reason that hopeless is still "trolling" by doing this rng vote, since it mimics bh rng day 1.
So still makes liam reason to push hopeless kinda weak, do you agree bh
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