Newbie Mini Mafia LIX - Page 2

On October 07 2014 10:18 loafery wrote:
Yup everyone had a role and all we had to do was reveal our roles and i think it ended on day 2.

On October 07 2014 10:36 Superbia wrote:
I'm probably off soon, I'm expecting everyone to have said something by the time I wake up. Then I will point out scum and we'll lynch said scum.

On October 07 2014 14:29 dusts wrote:
Good morning

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talks like real soviet spy ^^

On October 07 2014 15:14 Fecalfeast wrote:
rad: I never called him confirmed town, I just said I was reading him town based on his reaction to his misinterpretation of the game setup. The only reason I even announced this is because I was reading him scummy for telling everyone to claim.

On October 07 2014 16:24 abuse wrote:


Calling yourself town and calling yourself confirmed town are two different things.

On October 08 2014 05:06 The_Zen_Man wrote:


Yeah, abuse is probably the one that had most of my arguments already written. I do however not share all of abuses opinions and do believe that he is pushing for loaf too hard. I would for instance not vote on him this early, as it is definetly too early to prove that he is a scum. Better to simply do a FoS, as it will give an indicitation of what you think of the person, but not have all dirt throwback that often comes with voting on someone.

On October 08 2014 06:57 Elvis! wrote:
On Superbia:




I'm not nececarily amazed by Superbia this far, most of his post seem to try hard not to put to much suspicion on anyone.
Typically for a mafia, he posts a lot to seem active, without having much content. He so far avoids to do any FoS in any kind and even called loaf townie for no apparent reason. This doesn't help the investigation on loaf at all, if he doesn't give good reason/proof/ideas about it.


Then "its mostly a gut read plus I'm happy with people pushing him"

@Superbia would you like to elaborate how you think he's town and still like how he's getting pushed? Shouldn't we focus on searching mafia?


Then on loaf:

I really don't like his posts either, and for now he is my top 1 mafia ( Superbia is second ) and I'll ##FoS loaf.
The reason are the following:
1. He heavily concentrates just on defending himself and as mafia do try to do, avoids the questions asked to him by answering different themes from what was actually asked.






Here he gives really weak reasoning for calling these people town. I can imagine it to be a clever strategy to try to make some people read you more town by telling them how "great they are" (they get called town for not being suspicious? How is that special townie behaviour? It just sounds like a null read for me.
Also people like to "be right" and get applauded for their decisions, so saying "ff read me as town with good reasoning instead of chasing after me" is supposed to make ff like loaf and maybe even defend him later on / vote for other people / chase after everyone except him / just work together in general. Especially for newbies it can be nice to get approved by someone.

2. Another thing about loaf is that I don't like how he's playing like he doens't know some things that were in this thread for the weeks it to to get it started. Especially since he seems to be used to complicated setups, this must be "easy" for him? Talking about how "newbie" he himself is is a very convenient way of distracting people from you. Of course being a newbie should not be read as being scum, it just doesn't sound quite right how he mentions his complicated setups and then talks a whole lot of how they were and how this is different.
Just straight up without telling anyone a proper plan, want everyone to do something as radical as to claim on D1?


3. Then another thing I really dislike is, that he talks so much about how he isn't mafia, because he "doesn't do certain things that he thinks are mafia". So if he knows that these things appear mafia and he was mafia, surely he wouldn't do any of these things. This might be my strongest point about him being mafia.
Some quotes to support this:




If I were scum I would surely do all these things I believe are read to be scum. Suuuuuuure.





"Now I'm in the center of attention" (... that I'm now desperately trying to get out of...)


loaf, I'm sorry for (maybe) uncovering some of your strategies, but being not mafia in totally obvious ways doesn't get you any closer to being townie.

On October 08 2014 07:16 Superbia wrote:
FF how do you feel about loaf atm?

On October 08 2014 07:40 loafery wrote:
"This set-up is based off of the Matrix6 setup with added flavor. This is a semi-open set-up meaning that while all of the roles possible will be displayed the number of each role in game is unknown."

for my defense of being noobish I frankly didn't read this part of the OP. My mistake. To be frank, it's my first time playing semi-open or any kind of open setup. It's always been where everyone knows which roles there are and its fixed.

I srsly don't want to bring in external factors to the game and my credibility and what not. If I have to then so be it...

But atm i want to read abuse as scummy for trying so unnaturally hard and tunneling into lynching me.

On October 08 2014 09:29 Breshke wrote:


Do you not agree then that people reading you as town just for misreading the OP could be scummy then? Like this is something that could be faked so i don't see how people can get a town read off that. Also in my opinion not trying to answer questions is scummy because it makes it seem like you have something to hide but I understand there been so much focus on you so there's a lot to answer.

I'm uneasy about superbia and ff saying they both basically disagree with the push on loaf but aren't pushing on anyone themselves. Who are you both scum reading? Who do you think should be a wagon for today?

Also my biggest town at the moment is abuse from his hard push on loaf as he was the first one to actively push his reads and doing this as mafia would majorly put the spotlight on him if loaf gets lynched and happens to flip town.