Why did you initially vote Templar and give no explanation and then unvote him? Did he do something to deserve your unvote?
You also pay attention to 3d posting and conclude that he has sounded that way since before the game started. Do you think that his ideas and reactions are towny in nature? I know you said you thought his apologetic tone wasn't scummy.
I must say bat this is not the normal town Bats i'm used to normally you are pretty crazy, which you showed with your first two posts (what was the first post from btw). But your posts feel really formulaic atm and it worries me.
On September 03 2014 08:20 Tehpoofter wrote: Bang: Vivax - His reads have aligned with mine I liked the way he answered the buddying question I asked him last night he felt like he while disagreeing with me had a townie mindset.
Kill - Micchan - See my case on him he hasn't posted hardly anything and what he has posted has just set off scum alarms every single time we should all be voting this dude! Link to the post!
The_Templar - His read on 3d12 that I was questioning him on felt really odd to me it seemed like to me a mafia either soft defending a newbish scumbuddy or soft defending a townie enough to hopefully not get blamed for his lynch. If his mission was defend several townies or a buddy this would make sense something about reading his post felt forced to me. I know also Templar as scum can come out of the gates firing as scum in the newbie game I saw him play in he had the 2nd if not the biggest filter and I think this reminds me of that game.
To all of you so I can read you a bit better where do you stand? Have you voted Micchan yet?
Your read on Vivax: As someone who has been mafia several times in a row recently, I can tell you that it's a terrible idea to town read someone based on their reads. Most players can give alignment-neutral reads and I've seen players get terribly confused later on because the people that had the same reads as them turned out to be mafia. Regarding the rest, can you say exactly how he has a "townie mindset"? I don't see it at all.
Why would you write this about someone you never openly considered as scum in your filter. Last thing you said about me is how me bringing up something repeatedly was odd.
It just looks like you try to discredit me for no reason, since your filter lacks the motivation to push me as a scumread.
Sorry, forgot that I have to read someone as red to disagree with them and say that they could be red. Fine let's play it your way. You are red. Happy now?
On September 03 2014 08:20 Tehpoofter wrote: Bang: Vivax - His reads have aligned with mine I liked the way he answered the buddying question I asked him last night he felt like he while disagreeing with me had a townie mindset.
Kill - Micchan - See my case on him he hasn't posted hardly anything and what he has posted has just set off scum alarms every single time we should all be voting this dude! Link to the post!
The_Templar - His read on 3d12 that I was questioning him on felt really odd to me it seemed like to me a mafia either soft defending a newbish scumbuddy or soft defending a townie enough to hopefully not get blamed for his lynch. If his mission was defend several townies or a buddy this would make sense something about reading his post felt forced to me. I know also Templar as scum can come out of the gates firing as scum in the newbie game I saw him play in he had the 2nd if not the biggest filter and I think this reminds me of that game.
To all of you so I can read you a bit better where do you stand? Have you voted Micchan yet?
Your read on Vivax: As someone who has been mafia several times in a row recently, I can tell you that it's a terrible idea to town read someone based on their reads. Most players can give alignment-neutral reads and I've seen players get terribly confused later on because the people that had the same reads as them turned out to be mafia. Regarding the rest, can you say exactly how he has a "townie mindset"? I don't see it at all.
Your read on Micchan: I don't like the post you linked to. These are all valid points but he's not making a difference at all since he's lurked a lot and I want to see how he develops over the next ~12 hours before voting him. There's not a rush to figure things out here yet.
Your read on me: I want clarification on that bolded part. In response to me coming out of the gates firing as scum: have you ever seen me play town? (hint: it's never happened before this game) Can you really determine my town/scum meta when compared to the other considering there's no evidence of the former?
So hes not making a difference at all? Interesting you find that a townie quality?
Lol you wish that I thought that. Read my post again. I clearly state I want to see content out of him before I decide on him.
I think that the way you talked about 3d12 was really awkward. The tone of it sounded like you didn't truly believe what you were saying. Like the read was superficial to me I can't really express what I'm saying well but it didn't feel like you were all there or behind the read.
As for your play if you have only played scum and I see similar tendencies to your previous games where you were scum before. I will concede that it may just be since I've only seen you as scum seeing your town game might have some parts of it that appear as your scum game but you must understand from my pov I have no clue if you're town or mafia so if I see red flags from a scum game I've seen I most certainly will call that out.
I was a bit scattered when I read 3d12. I was definitely not expecting to be asked about him as I didn't really consider him too much before rushing out a read (I had to go to class soon).
Fair point about my similar play. Feel free to point out similarities between me right now and a previous mafia member all you want. Try not to judge too much because you really don't know how constant (or spontaneous) my play is between mafia and town, no matter what you think.
On September 03 2014 08:20 Tehpoofter wrote: Bang: Vivax - His reads have aligned with mine I liked the way he answered the buddying question I asked him last night he felt like he while disagreeing with me had a townie mindset.
Kill - Micchan - See my case on him he hasn't posted hardly anything and what he has posted has just set off scum alarms every single time we should all be voting this dude! Link to the post!
The_Templar - His read on 3d12 that I was questioning him on felt really odd to me it seemed like to me a mafia either soft defending a newbish scumbuddy or soft defending a townie enough to hopefully not get blamed for his lynch. If his mission was defend several townies or a buddy this would make sense something about reading his post felt forced to me. I know also Templar as scum can come out of the gates firing as scum in the newbie game I saw him play in he had the 2nd if not the biggest filter and I think this reminds me of that game.
To all of you so I can read you a bit better where do you stand? Have you voted Micchan yet?
Your read on Vivax: As someone who has been mafia several times in a row recently, I can tell you that it's a terrible idea to town read someone based on their reads. Most players can give alignment-neutral reads and I've seen players get terribly confused later on because the people that had the same reads as them turned out to be mafia. Regarding the rest, can you say exactly how he has a "townie mindset"? I don't see it at all.
Why would you write this about someone you never openly considered as scum in your filter. Last thing you said about me is how me bringing up something repeatedly was odd.
It just looks like you try to discredit me for no reason, since your filter lacks the motivation to push me as a scumread.
Sorry, forgot that I have to read someone as red to disagree with them and say that they could be red. Fine let's play it your way. You are red. Happy now?
On September 03 2014 11:21 Damdred wrote: Few questions for you bats:
Why did you initially vote Templar and give no explanation and then unvote him? Did he do something to deserve your unvote?
You also pay attention to 3d posting and conclude that he has sounded that way since before the game started. Do you think that his ideas and reactions are towny in nature? I know you said you thought his apologetic tone wasn't scummy.
I must say bat this is not the normal town Bats i'm used to normally you are pretty crazy, which you showed with your first two posts (what was the first post from btw). But your posts feel really formulaic atm and it worries me.
Hai I have no read on you. What are you reads?
Why aren't you currently sheeping me onto Micchan?
On September 03 2014 08:20 Tehpoofter wrote: Bang: Vivax - His reads have aligned with mine I liked the way he answered the buddying question I asked him last night he felt like he while disagreeing with me had a townie mindset.
Kill - Micchan - See my case on him he hasn't posted hardly anything and what he has posted has just set off scum alarms every single time we should all be voting this dude! Link to the post!
The_Templar - His read on 3d12 that I was questioning him on felt really odd to me it seemed like to me a mafia either soft defending a newbish scumbuddy or soft defending a townie enough to hopefully not get blamed for his lynch. If his mission was defend several townies or a buddy this would make sense something about reading his post felt forced to me. I know also Templar as scum can come out of the gates firing as scum in the newbie game I saw him play in he had the 2nd if not the biggest filter and I think this reminds me of that game.
To all of you so I can read you a bit better where do you stand? Have you voted Micchan yet?
Your read on Vivax: As someone who has been mafia several times in a row recently, I can tell you that it's a terrible idea to town read someone based on their reads. Most players can give alignment-neutral reads and I've seen players get terribly confused later on because the people that had the same reads as them turned out to be mafia. Regarding the rest, can you say exactly how he has a "townie mindset"? I don't see it at all.
Your read on Micchan: I don't like the post you linked to. These are all valid points but he's not making a difference at all since he's lurked a lot and I want to see how he develops over the next ~12 hours before voting him. There's not a rush to figure things out here yet.
Your read on me: I want clarification on that bolded part. In response to me coming out of the gates firing as scum: have you ever seen me play town? (hint: it's never happened before this game) Can you really determine my town/scum meta when compared to the other considering there's no evidence of the former?
So hes not making a difference at all? Interesting you find that a townie quality?
Lol you wish that I thought that. Read my post again. I clearly state I want to see content out of him before I decide on him.
I think that the way you talked about 3d12 was really awkward. The tone of it sounded like you didn't truly believe what you were saying. Like the read was superficial to me I can't really express what I'm saying well but it didn't feel like you were all there or behind the read.
As for your play if you have only played scum and I see similar tendencies to your previous games where you were scum before. I will concede that it may just be since I've only seen you as scum seeing your town game might have some parts of it that appear as your scum game but you must understand from my pov I have no clue if you're town or mafia so if I see red flags from a scum game I've seen I most certainly will call that out.
I was a bit scattered when I read 3d12. I was definitely not expecting to be asked about him as I didn't really consider him too much before rushing out a read (I had to go to class soon).
Fair point about my similar play. Feel free to point out similarities between me right now and a previous mafia member all you want. Try not to judge too much because you really don't know how constant (or spontaneous) my play is between mafia and town, no matter what you think.
Lol wow I can't read. I made that between customers okay cool well give him all the time you want but hes still doing scummy things. I think you could definitely leave a vote on him to pressure him into talking atm I'm the only one even voting on him and aside from batsnacks no one has really said he is even neutral. That's a very weird place to be in the thread imo. Seems like if he was a townie mafia would be eager to hop on this easy lynch with me. Granted not everyone has checked in since I made the post but I still think its a good place to look atm.
Not sure about the 3d12 thing. Do you have a read on damdred/obi? I don't really have opinions on them as of yet.
On September 03 2014 08:20 Tehpoofter wrote: Bang: Vivax - His reads have aligned with mine I liked the way he answered the buddying question I asked him last night he felt like he while disagreeing with me had a townie mindset.
Kill - Micchan - See my case on him he hasn't posted hardly anything and what he has posted has just set off scum alarms every single time we should all be voting this dude! Link to the post!
The_Templar - His read on 3d12 that I was questioning him on felt really odd to me it seemed like to me a mafia either soft defending a newbish scumbuddy or soft defending a townie enough to hopefully not get blamed for his lynch. If his mission was defend several townies or a buddy this would make sense something about reading his post felt forced to me. I know also Templar as scum can come out of the gates firing as scum in the newbie game I saw him play in he had the 2nd if not the biggest filter and I think this reminds me of that game.
To all of you so I can read you a bit better where do you stand? Have you voted Micchan yet?
Your read on Vivax: As someone who has been mafia several times in a row recently, I can tell you that it's a terrible idea to town read someone based on their reads. Most players can give alignment-neutral reads and I've seen players get terribly confused later on because the people that had the same reads as them turned out to be mafia. Regarding the rest, can you say exactly how he has a "townie mindset"? I don't see it at all.
Why would you write this about someone you never openly considered as scum in your filter. Last thing you said about me is how me bringing up something repeatedly was odd.
It just looks like you try to discredit me for no reason, since your filter lacks the motivation to push me as a scumread.
Sorry, forgot that I have to read someone as red to disagree with them and say that they could be red. Fine let's play it your way. You are red. Happy now?
But you didn't disagree with me. You found some of my behaviour odd and disagreed with Poofter about me being town.
On September 03 2014 08:20 Tehpoofter wrote: Bang: Vivax - His reads have aligned with mine I liked the way he answered the buddying question I asked him last night he felt like he while disagreeing with me had a townie mindset.
Kill - Micchan - See my case on him he hasn't posted hardly anything and what he has posted has just set off scum alarms every single time we should all be voting this dude! Link to the post!
The_Templar - His read on 3d12 that I was questioning him on felt really odd to me it seemed like to me a mafia either soft defending a newbish scumbuddy or soft defending a townie enough to hopefully not get blamed for his lynch. If his mission was defend several townies or a buddy this would make sense something about reading his post felt forced to me. I know also Templar as scum can come out of the gates firing as scum in the newbie game I saw him play in he had the 2nd if not the biggest filter and I think this reminds me of that game.
To all of you so I can read you a bit better where do you stand? Have you voted Micchan yet?
Your read on Vivax: As someone who has been mafia several times in a row recently, I can tell you that it's a terrible idea to town read someone based on their reads. Most players can give alignment-neutral reads and I've seen players get terribly confused later on because the people that had the same reads as them turned out to be mafia. Regarding the rest, can you say exactly how he has a "townie mindset"? I don't see it at all.
Why would you write this about someone you never openly considered as scum in your filter. Last thing you said about me is how me bringing up something repeatedly was odd.
It just looks like you try to discredit me for no reason, since your filter lacks the motivation to push me as a scumread.
Sorry, forgot that I have to read someone as red to disagree with them and say that they could be red. Fine let's play it your way. You are red. Happy now?
But you didn't disagree with me. You found some of my behaviour odd and disagreed with Poofter about me being town.
Why act so mad now?
I never said I found your behavior odd. I said you could be red even though you had the same opinions as him, and that I didn't really see a townie mindset from you. I suppose you interpreted the mindset part as accusing you of red but that wasn't my intention. While I happened to have a pink read on you, I did not accuse you of scum, it's just you didn't act terribly pro-town.
On September 03 2014 11:21 Damdred wrote: Few questions for you bats:
Why did you initially vote Templar and give no explanation and then unvote him? Did he do something to deserve your unvote?
You also pay attention to 3d posting and conclude that he has sounded that way since before the game started. Do you think that his ideas and reactions are towny in nature? I know you said you thought his apologetic tone wasn't scummy.
I must say bat this is not the normal town Bats i'm used to normally you are pretty crazy, which you showed with your first two posts (what was the first post from btw). But your posts feel really formulaic atm and it worries me.
Hai I have no read on you. What are you reads?
Why aren't you currently sheeping me onto Micchan?
I'll answer the second question first.
Currently, I am nervous about Micchan. He made his initial post (which i pointed out also), that complains about the thread atmosphere which honestly was not bad at the time of his post. I think we were still in setup talk and were startin to move towards actual talk. He did not stay in the thread and help improve the conversation or even say what the mess was. On his return his posts were an excuse and throwing more suspicion onto 3d with no follow up. He has since lurked obviously. This is worrisome to me, but it is not enough for a scum read currently I think. We still have a good many hours left to search for scum and their is just not much to go on in his filter, theres no real meta case to be made as he is a newb or a smurf. And well I really do not like going for low hanging fruit.
The people who I would like to see more out of right now are:
Batsnacks: His entrance to the thread was weird. On his re-entrance he ignored a lot of things that were posted against him, he never even showed interest in answering anything. His posts are really formulaic, right now they are reminding me of Neat and Tidy mafia instead of crazy bats in Cell or Titanic. Also usually hes really spammy, but his postings have been really hit and miss and even though he spared a lot of thoughts to 3d, his only reaction is that an apologetic tone is not scummy. But their are other things in 3ds posts that he could talk about and he does not really draw conclusions from that.
Bunnies: Bunnies is a bit odd to me, a lot of her early filter is a lot of trolling with fluff thrown in. Suddenly she town reads templar and poof and gives little reason for it. Even goes far enough to meta read poof and giving him a town pass for not very good reasons. This is the worrying part to me, Bunnies talks about shooting people over gut feelings and saying that Bats is a third party (hypothetically). Has not returned to the thread yet and responded to why she would want to direct vig at this point to make a kill and push us towards lylo over nothing.
Micchan for the reasons listed above
3D i'm not really sure about yet, he seems awkward which is not alignment indicative but he at least gives his views in the thread and then tries toe xplain himself. So more of a I want to see more of his thoughts.
On September 03 2014 08:20 Tehpoofter wrote: Bang: Vivax - His reads have aligned with mine I liked the way he answered the buddying question I asked him last night he felt like he while disagreeing with me had a townie mindset.
Kill - Micchan - See my case on him he hasn't posted hardly anything and what he has posted has just set off scum alarms every single time we should all be voting this dude! Link to the post!
The_Templar - His read on 3d12 that I was questioning him on felt really odd to me it seemed like to me a mafia either soft defending a newbish scumbuddy or soft defending a townie enough to hopefully not get blamed for his lynch. If his mission was defend several townies or a buddy this would make sense something about reading his post felt forced to me. I know also Templar as scum can come out of the gates firing as scum in the newbie game I saw him play in he had the 2nd if not the biggest filter and I think this reminds me of that game.
To all of you so I can read you a bit better where do you stand? Have you voted Micchan yet?
Your read on Vivax: As someone who has been mafia several times in a row recently, I can tell you that it's a terrible idea to town read someone based on their reads. Most players can give alignment-neutral reads and I've seen players get terribly confused later on because the people that had the same reads as them turned out to be mafia. Regarding the rest, can you say exactly how he has a "townie mindset"? I don't see it at all.
Why would you write this about someone you never openly considered as scum in your filter. Last thing you said about me is how me bringing up something repeatedly was odd.
It just looks like you try to discredit me for no reason, since your filter lacks the motivation to push me as a scumread.
Sorry, forgot that I have to read someone as red to disagree with them and say that they could be red. Fine let's play it your way. You are red. Happy now?
But you didn't disagree with me. You found some of my behaviour odd and disagreed with Poofter about me being town.
Why act so mad now?
I never said I found your behavior odd. I said you could be red even though you had the same opinions as him, and that I didn't really see a townie mindset from you. I suppose you interpreted the mindset part as accusing you of red but that wasn't my intention. While I happened to have a pink read on you, I did not accuse you of scum, it's just you didn't act terribly pro-town.
So am I red for lacking the townieness poofter thought to have seen or cause you saw something scummy you didn't mention yet.
On September 03 2014 08:20 Tehpoofter wrote: Bang: Vivax - His reads have aligned with mine I liked the way he answered the buddying question I asked him last night he felt like he while disagreeing with me had a townie mindset.
Kill - Micchan - See my case on him he hasn't posted hardly anything and what he has posted has just set off scum alarms every single time we should all be voting this dude! Link to the post!
The_Templar - His read on 3d12 that I was questioning him on felt really odd to me it seemed like to me a mafia either soft defending a newbish scumbuddy or soft defending a townie enough to hopefully not get blamed for his lynch. If his mission was defend several townies or a buddy this would make sense something about reading his post felt forced to me. I know also Templar as scum can come out of the gates firing as scum in the newbie game I saw him play in he had the 2nd if not the biggest filter and I think this reminds me of that game.
To all of you so I can read you a bit better where do you stand? Have you voted Micchan yet?
Your read on Vivax: As someone who has been mafia several times in a row recently, I can tell you that it's a terrible idea to town read someone based on their reads. Most players can give alignment-neutral reads and I've seen players get terribly confused later on because the people that had the same reads as them turned out to be mafia. Regarding the rest, can you say exactly how he has a "townie mindset"? I don't see it at all.
Why would you write this about someone you never openly considered as scum in your filter. Last thing you said about me is how me bringing up something repeatedly was odd.
It just looks like you try to discredit me for no reason, since your filter lacks the motivation to push me as a scumread.
Sorry, forgot that I have to read someone as red to disagree with them and say that they could be red. Fine let's play it your way. You are red. Happy now?
But you didn't disagree with me. You found some of my behaviour odd and disagreed with Poofter about me being town.
Why act so mad now?
Yeah we're going to be friends this game. Yo vivax I might propose to you if I feel the need to update my BMK.
This line of questions you've been asking all game seems townie to me.
How do you get your read on kush? for me its "does he seem to give a shit" if yes = town if no = mafia. So far he seemed to give a shit earlier now not so much. I think thats the read we had different so want to know more about that read.
On September 03 2014 08:20 Tehpoofter wrote: Bang: Vivax - His reads have aligned with mine I liked the way he answered the buddying question I asked him last night he felt like he while disagreeing with me had a townie mindset.
Kill - Micchan - See my case on him he hasn't posted hardly anything and what he has posted has just set off scum alarms every single time we should all be voting this dude! Link to the post!
The_Templar - His read on 3d12 that I was questioning him on felt really odd to me it seemed like to me a mafia either soft defending a newbish scumbuddy or soft defending a townie enough to hopefully not get blamed for his lynch. If his mission was defend several townies or a buddy this would make sense something about reading his post felt forced to me. I know also Templar as scum can come out of the gates firing as scum in the newbie game I saw him play in he had the 2nd if not the biggest filter and I think this reminds me of that game.
To all of you so I can read you a bit better where do you stand? Have you voted Micchan yet?
Your read on Vivax: As someone who has been mafia several times in a row recently, I can tell you that it's a terrible idea to town read someone based on their reads. Most players can give alignment-neutral reads and I've seen players get terribly confused later on because the people that had the same reads as them turned out to be mafia. Regarding the rest, can you say exactly how he has a "townie mindset"? I don't see it at all.
Why would you write this about someone you never openly considered as scum in your filter. Last thing you said about me is how me bringing up something repeatedly was odd.
It just looks like you try to discredit me for no reason, since your filter lacks the motivation to push me as a scumread.
Sorry, forgot that I have to read someone as red to disagree with them and say that they could be red. Fine let's play it your way. You are red. Happy now?
But you didn't disagree with me. You found some of my behaviour odd and disagreed with Poofter about me being town.
Why act so mad now?
I never said I found your behavior odd. I said you could be red even though you had the same opinions as him, and that I didn't really see a townie mindset from you. I suppose you interpreted the mindset part as accusing you of red but that wasn't my intention. While I happened to have a pink read on you, I did not accuse you of scum, it's just you didn't act terribly pro-town.
So am I red for lacking the townieness poofter thought to have seen or cause you saw something scummy you didn't mention yet.
You're not any more towny than most of the people in the game as far as I can tell. Going to bed.
On September 03 2014 08:20 Tehpoofter wrote: Bang: Vivax - His reads have aligned with mine I liked the way he answered the buddying question I asked him last night he felt like he while disagreeing with me had a townie mindset.
Kill - Micchan - See my case on him he hasn't posted hardly anything and what he has posted has just set off scum alarms every single time we should all be voting this dude! Link to the post!
The_Templar - His read on 3d12 that I was questioning him on felt really odd to me it seemed like to me a mafia either soft defending a newbish scumbuddy or soft defending a townie enough to hopefully not get blamed for his lynch. If his mission was defend several townies or a buddy this would make sense something about reading his post felt forced to me. I know also Templar as scum can come out of the gates firing as scum in the newbie game I saw him play in he had the 2nd if not the biggest filter and I think this reminds me of that game.
To all of you so I can read you a bit better where do you stand? Have you voted Micchan yet?
Your read on Vivax: As someone who has been mafia several times in a row recently, I can tell you that it's a terrible idea to town read someone based on their reads. Most players can give alignment-neutral reads and I've seen players get terribly confused later on because the people that had the same reads as them turned out to be mafia. Regarding the rest, can you say exactly how he has a "townie mindset"? I don't see it at all.
Why would you write this about someone you never openly considered as scum in your filter. Last thing you said about me is how me bringing up something repeatedly was odd.
It just looks like you try to discredit me for no reason, since your filter lacks the motivation to push me as a scumread.
Sorry, forgot that I have to read someone as red to disagree with them and say that they could be red. Fine let's play it your way. You are red. Happy now?
But you didn't disagree with me. You found some of my behaviour odd and disagreed with Poofter about me being town.
Why act so mad now?
Yeah we're going to be friends this game. Yo vivax I might propose to you if I feel the need to update my BMK.
This line of questions you've been asking all game seems townie to me.
How do you get your read on kush? for me its "does he seem to give a shit" if yes = town if no = mafia. So far he seemed to give a shit earlier now not so much. I think thats the read we had different so want to know more about that read.
Kush is very capable of looking townie, as town. He will look interested and engaged and I will generally get the right vibe from him.
As scum he talks a lot about irrelevant stuff and you will get the feeling that he doesn't care, he will usually join wagons on townies in a way that doesn't leave much room for alternatives (as in, he doesn't really care about other options).
On September 03 2014 11:21 Damdred wrote: Few questions for you bats:
Why did you initially vote Templar and give no explanation and then unvote him? Did he do something to deserve your unvote?
You also pay attention to 3d posting and conclude that he has sounded that way since before the game started. Do you think that his ideas and reactions are towny in nature? I know you said you thought his apologetic tone wasn't scummy.
I must say bat this is not the normal town Bats i'm used to normally you are pretty crazy, which you showed with your first two posts (what was the first post from btw). But your posts feel really formulaic atm and it worries me.
Hai I have no read on you. What are you reads?
Why aren't you currently sheeping me onto Micchan?
I'll answer the second question first.
Currently, I am nervous about Micchan. He made his initial post (which i pointed out also), that complains about the thread atmosphere which honestly was not bad at the time of his post. I think we were still in setup talk and were startin to move towards actual talk. He did not stay in the thread and help improve the conversation or even say what the mess was. On his return his posts were an excuse and throwing more suspicion onto 3d with no follow up. He has since lurked obviously. This is worrisome to me, but it is not enough for a scum read currently I think. We still have a good many hours left to search for scum and their is just not much to go on in his filter, theres no real meta case to be made as he is a newb or a smurf. And well I really do not like going for low hanging fruit.
The people who I would like to see more out of right now are:
Batsnacks: His entrance to the thread was weird. On his re-entrance he ignored a lot of things that were posted against him, he never even showed interest in answering anything. His posts are really formulaic, right now they are reminding me of Neat and Tidy mafia instead of crazy bats in Cell or Titanic. Also usually hes really spammy, but his postings have been really hit and miss and even though he spared a lot of thoughts to 3d, his only reaction is that an apologetic tone is not scummy. But their are other things in 3ds posts that he could talk about and he does not really draw conclusions from that.
Bunnies: Bunnies is a bit odd to me, a lot of her early filter is a lot of trolling with fluff thrown in. Suddenly she town reads templar and poof and gives little reason for it. Even goes far enough to meta read poof and giving him a town pass for not very good reasons. This is the worrying part to me, Bunnies talks about shooting people over gut feelings and saying that Bats is a third party (hypothetically). Has not returned to the thread yet and responded to why she would want to direct vig at this point to make a kill and push us towards lylo over nothing.
Micchan for the reasons listed above
3D i'm not really sure about yet, he seems awkward which is not alignment indicative but he at least gives his views in the thread and then tries toe xplain himself. So more of a I want to see more of his thoughts.
Getting tired of this "yeah Micchan is being scummy and lurking but naa I don't want to vote him" Why do you think mafia isn't hoping on this lynch if Micchan is town? He is clearly just not trying and would be the easiest of all easy misslynches.
I'm starting to wonder if the mafia goal involves like not voting as there is a bunch of people who haven't even placed a vote as of yet.
I agree with your Bunnies read. I'm not too excited on how she talks about 3d parties and stuff wanting to kill them more than mafia as I think Oats pointed out.
3D Can you describe what you mean by awkward I think I know what you mean but not 100% also why would you bring it up that its a null in your opinion?
Do you have any town reads atm?
Batsnacks in the games you mentioned what alignment was he? I don't think I played in those.
Vivax, can we talk about mderg for a minute together.
What do you think of him rejoining the thread, saying that we should ignore all missions, and then just talking about 3d the whole time he was in the thread?
On September 03 2014 08:20 Tehpoofter wrote: Bang: Vivax - His reads have aligned with mine I liked the way he answered the buddying question I asked him last night he felt like he while disagreeing with me had a townie mindset.
Kill - Micchan - See my case on him he hasn't posted hardly anything and what he has posted has just set off scum alarms every single time we should all be voting this dude! Link to the post!
The_Templar - His read on 3d12 that I was questioning him on felt really odd to me it seemed like to me a mafia either soft defending a newbish scumbuddy or soft defending a townie enough to hopefully not get blamed for his lynch. If his mission was defend several townies or a buddy this would make sense something about reading his post felt forced to me. I know also Templar as scum can come out of the gates firing as scum in the newbie game I saw him play in he had the 2nd if not the biggest filter and I think this reminds me of that game.
To all of you so I can read you a bit better where do you stand? Have you voted Micchan yet?
Your read on Vivax: As someone who has been mafia several times in a row recently, I can tell you that it's a terrible idea to town read someone based on their reads. Most players can give alignment-neutral reads and I've seen players get terribly confused later on because the people that had the same reads as them turned out to be mafia. Regarding the rest, can you say exactly how he has a "townie mindset"? I don't see it at all.
Why would you write this about someone you never openly considered as scum in your filter. Last thing you said about me is how me bringing up something repeatedly was odd.
It just looks like you try to discredit me for no reason, since your filter lacks the motivation to push me as a scumread.
Sorry, forgot that I have to read someone as red to disagree with them and say that they could be red. Fine let's play it your way. You are red. Happy now?
But you didn't disagree with me. You found some of my behaviour odd and disagreed with Poofter about me being town.
Why act so mad now?
Yeah we're going to be friends this game. Yo vivax I might propose to you if I feel the need to update my BMK.
This line of questions you've been asking all game seems townie to me.
How do you get your read on kush? for me its "does he seem to give a shit" if yes = town if no = mafia. So far he seemed to give a shit earlier now not so much. I think thats the read we had different so want to know more about that read.
Kush is very capable of looking townie, as town. He will look interested and engaged and I will generally get the right vibe from him.
As scum he talks a lot about irrelevant stuff and you will get the feeling that he doesn't care, he will usually join wagons on townies in a way that doesn't leave much room for alternatives (as in, he doesn't really care about other options).
Kush to me definitely seems like he was carrying but not really anymore.
KK I really hope you're town cause I think in almost every game we've played I've read you as really scummy and I think I might have finally figured out how to read you
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