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mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
September 02 2014 21:21 GMT
#341
On September 03 2014 06:09 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2014 05:47 mderg wrote:
On September 03 2014 05:44 Tehpoofter wrote:
On September 02 2014 17:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
Talking about missions is bad, also dont do it.

Obi, why did you vote for bunnies at the start of the game?

just saw 3d's post, calls out micchan for being quiet, doesnt call me out for not posting at all. Clearly sheeping someone's previous sentiment.



I think you're wrong on point one if someone is allowed to do weird ass things as mafia because people aren't thinking about missions then mafia has an easier time. Plus if we are bringing up the missions and one of us actually gets it right even if we don't catch a mafia immediately from it they still could be very nervous about posting just in general or meeting the mission and it could become more awkward (read easier for us to catch) for them to accomplish it. We might as well talk about something unique to the game it would be like not talking about the cell's in cell mafia or the button in catastrophe.

I don't like the mindset of "ignore the missions" to me its like "Lets just be quiet about something WE KNOW MAFIA IS DOING and let everyone ponder it individually vs collectively"

Your previous post about batsnacks reads from one post is 100% right anyone getting a read off that is silly. As far as I was concerned as of last night batsnacks hadn't posted.

If mafia does weird ass things they're still doing weird ass things, regardless of us thinking about the missions.



Bleh I agree on principal but my wording was bad. Something that may not seem weird normally in this game might be a mission. I'm going to keep talking about them because its basically a key clue that we have this game that if we don't use we're just hurting ourselves and making mafia play as normal. Like earlier imagine if the mission was to change votes at EoD or something silly like that and we decided after 1 hour prior to deadline no vote switches were to happen. Mafia would be petrified to make a change because it would make them look not townie. They'd have to contrive something and a simple vote switch at EoD would suddenly become a huge chore to them and without the discussion something like that would go unnoticed most likely or be written off.

What about templar making a long post makes him scummy to you?

I think playing out of the ordinary to make missions fail can also hurt town. Especially if mafia has a "good" idea to stop a potential mission that might make us play suboptimal. I just don't like the idea of making big changes to our play for the off chance of figuring out a mission.

What makes him scummy to me is that he made the long post focusing only on one person and then only coming to a soft conclusion like that.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
September 02 2014 21:22 GMT
#342
On September 03 2014 05:38 mderg wrote:
Anyone else thinking that 3d12 is trying hard to get some newbie bonus?


how so
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
September 02 2014 21:28 GMT
#343
On September 03 2014 06:21 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2014 06:09 Tehpoofter wrote:
On September 03 2014 05:47 mderg wrote:
On September 03 2014 05:44 Tehpoofter wrote:
On September 02 2014 17:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
Talking about missions is bad, also dont do it.

Obi, why did you vote for bunnies at the start of the game?

just saw 3d's post, calls out micchan for being quiet, doesnt call me out for not posting at all. Clearly sheeping someone's previous sentiment.



I think you're wrong on point one if someone is allowed to do weird ass things as mafia because people aren't thinking about missions then mafia has an easier time. Plus if we are bringing up the missions and one of us actually gets it right even if we don't catch a mafia immediately from it they still could be very nervous about posting just in general or meeting the mission and it could become more awkward (read easier for us to catch) for them to accomplish it. We might as well talk about something unique to the game it would be like not talking about the cell's in cell mafia or the button in catastrophe.

I don't like the mindset of "ignore the missions" to me its like "Lets just be quiet about something WE KNOW MAFIA IS DOING and let everyone ponder it individually vs collectively"

Your previous post about batsnacks reads from one post is 100% right anyone getting a read off that is silly. As far as I was concerned as of last night batsnacks hadn't posted.

If mafia does weird ass things they're still doing weird ass things, regardless of us thinking about the missions.



Bleh I agree on principal but my wording was bad. Something that may not seem weird normally in this game might be a mission. I'm going to keep talking about them because its basically a key clue that we have this game that if we don't use we're just hurting ourselves and making mafia play as normal. Like earlier imagine if the mission was to change votes at EoD or something silly like that and we decided after 1 hour prior to deadline no vote switches were to happen. Mafia would be petrified to make a change because it would make them look not townie. They'd have to contrive something and a simple vote switch at EoD would suddenly become a huge chore to them and without the discussion something like that would go unnoticed most likely or be written off.

What about templar making a long post makes him scummy to you?

I think playing out of the ordinary to make missions fail can also hurt town. Especially if mafia has a "good" idea to stop a potential mission that might make us play suboptimal. I just don't like the idea of making big changes to our play for the off chance of figuring out a mission.

What makes him scummy to me is that he made the long post focusing only on one person and then only coming to a soft conclusion like that.


I can agree to the first point there but that would require some VERY bold mafia and I think that narrows the pool of mafia considerably in the game if that was to happen.

I didn't like the point about him coming to that conclusion after the long post. Did you see my point about him also not giving him a newbie boost despite commenting on the fact that he talked about the bonus he was getting maybe being too large? What are your thoughts on that?
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
September 02 2014 21:29 GMT
#344
On September 03 2014 06:22 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2014 05:38 mderg wrote:
Anyone else thinking that 3d12 is trying hard to get some newbie bonus?


how so


Yes please I asked you to quote the post mderg and didn't see it upon reading 3d12's filter.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
September 02 2014 21:33 GMT
#345
kush you around for a bit?

Miccah dude whats your thought on him? Takes 2 seconds to read his filter and his one comment was about 3d12 who is getting a lot of heat in the thread it seems. This dude is mafia vote him with me. Please give a shit this game like you did in Heavy Weights if you're town I saw a bit of that flare earlier. I need someone to sheep cause my day 1 is generally poor. .
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
September 02 2014 21:35 GMT
#346
On September 03 2014 06:22 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2014 05:38 mderg wrote:
Anyone else thinking that 3d12 is trying hard to get some newbie bonus?


how so


These give off that feeling to me. I may be thinking too much into it, though.
On September 02 2014 08:44 3d12 wrote:
Forgive me if this seems like kind of a newbie question, but after catching up on the thread, the main thing that sticks out to me is the discussion about the voting. I'm not sure this is a good way to flush out scum. Personally, I'm with Damdred on the opinion that cutting the vote off early will cause tunneling on whoever has the majority at that point, so could someone enlighten me further on why this strategy would help?

On September 02 2014 09:09 3d12 wrote:
Edit-post to fix quote formatting:

Show nested quote +
On September 02 2014 08:08 The_Templar wrote:
And the missions are required for mafia… or they will die. I would say that's better for us anyway.


I didn't quote the post directly. Sorry.

On September 03 2014 01:04 3d12 wrote:
You're right, I thought I saw a third vote for batsnacks. Sorry. I wish there was a neater way to find the current vote count. Is there a program or something that I could use to loop through the thread and count the votes?

Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
September 02 2014 21:39 GMT
#347
On September 03 2014 06:35 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2014 06:22 kushm4sta wrote:
On September 03 2014 05:38 mderg wrote:
Anyone else thinking that 3d12 is trying hard to get some newbie bonus?


how so


These give off that feeling to me. I may be thinking too much into it, though.
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2014 08:44 3d12 wrote:
Forgive me if this seems like kind of a newbie question, but after catching up on the thread, the main thing that sticks out to me is the discussion about the voting. I'm not sure this is a good way to flush out scum. Personally, I'm with Damdred on the opinion that cutting the vote off early will cause tunneling on whoever has the majority at that point, so could someone enlighten me further on why this strategy would help?

Show nested quote +
On September 02 2014 09:09 3d12 wrote:
Edit-post to fix quote formatting:

On September 02 2014 08:08 The_Templar wrote:
And the missions are required for mafia… or they will die. I would say that's better for us anyway.


I didn't quote the post directly. Sorry.

Show nested quote +
On September 03 2014 01:04 3d12 wrote:
You're right, I thought I saw a third vote for batsnacks. Sorry. I wish there was a neater way to find the current vote count. Is there a program or something that I could use to loop through the thread and count the votes?



I think thats a stretch I don't think I'd give him townie points for any of these posts as even as a noob you could say them from either alignment. I think its is townie of you to point it out like it seems as if you're looking for scum.

Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
September 02 2014 21:39 GMT
#348
Templar to add onto my question what made you give the newbie points to 3d12? was it the posts mderg quoted or others?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22027 Posts
September 02 2014 21:40 GMT
#349
3d12 sounds a lot like obviousone.
I also don't think he's scum.

Scum is among this bunch imo:

- Templar
- Kush
- Kita
- 27nb
- micchan
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
September 02 2014 21:42 GMT
#350
On September 03 2014 06:39 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2014 06:35 mderg wrote:
On September 03 2014 06:22 kushm4sta wrote:
On September 03 2014 05:38 mderg wrote:
Anyone else thinking that 3d12 is trying hard to get some newbie bonus?


how so


These give off that feeling to me. I may be thinking too much into it, though.
On September 02 2014 08:44 3d12 wrote:
Forgive me if this seems like kind of a newbie question, but after catching up on the thread, the main thing that sticks out to me is the discussion about the voting. I'm not sure this is a good way to flush out scum. Personally, I'm with Damdred on the opinion that cutting the vote off early will cause tunneling on whoever has the majority at that point, so could someone enlighten me further on why this strategy would help?

On September 02 2014 09:09 3d12 wrote:
Edit-post to fix quote formatting:

On September 02 2014 08:08 The_Templar wrote:
And the missions are required for mafia… or they will die. I would say that's better for us anyway.


I didn't quote the post directly. Sorry.

On September 03 2014 01:04 3d12 wrote:
You're right, I thought I saw a third vote for batsnacks. Sorry. I wish there was a neater way to find the current vote count. Is there a program or something that I could use to loop through the thread and count the votes?



I think thats a stretch I don't think I'd give him townie points for any of these posts as even as a noob you could say them from either alignment. I think its is townie of you to point it out like it seems as if you're looking for scum.



Would you agree that 3d12's posts carry an apologetic tone? If yes, why do you think he is posting this way?
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
September 02 2014 21:44 GMT
#351
On September 03 2014 06:28 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2014 06:21 mderg wrote:
On September 03 2014 06:09 Tehpoofter wrote:
On September 03 2014 05:47 mderg wrote:
On September 03 2014 05:44 Tehpoofter wrote:
On September 02 2014 17:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
Talking about missions is bad, also dont do it.

Obi, why did you vote for bunnies at the start of the game?

just saw 3d's post, calls out micchan for being quiet, doesnt call me out for not posting at all. Clearly sheeping someone's previous sentiment.



I think you're wrong on point one if someone is allowed to do weird ass things as mafia because people aren't thinking about missions then mafia has an easier time. Plus if we are bringing up the missions and one of us actually gets it right even if we don't catch a mafia immediately from it they still could be very nervous about posting just in general or meeting the mission and it could become more awkward (read easier for us to catch) for them to accomplish it. We might as well talk about something unique to the game it would be like not talking about the cell's in cell mafia or the button in catastrophe.

I don't like the mindset of "ignore the missions" to me its like "Lets just be quiet about something WE KNOW MAFIA IS DOING and let everyone ponder it individually vs collectively"

Your previous post about batsnacks reads from one post is 100% right anyone getting a read off that is silly. As far as I was concerned as of last night batsnacks hadn't posted.

If mafia does weird ass things they're still doing weird ass things, regardless of us thinking about the missions.



Bleh I agree on principal but my wording was bad. Something that may not seem weird normally in this game might be a mission. I'm going to keep talking about them because its basically a key clue that we have this game that if we don't use we're just hurting ourselves and making mafia play as normal. Like earlier imagine if the mission was to change votes at EoD or something silly like that and we decided after 1 hour prior to deadline no vote switches were to happen. Mafia would be petrified to make a change because it would make them look not townie. They'd have to contrive something and a simple vote switch at EoD would suddenly become a huge chore to them and without the discussion something like that would go unnoticed most likely or be written off.

What about templar making a long post makes him scummy to you?

I think playing out of the ordinary to make missions fail can also hurt town. Especially if mafia has a "good" idea to stop a potential mission that might make us play suboptimal. I just don't like the idea of making big changes to our play for the off chance of figuring out a mission.

What makes him scummy to me is that he made the long post focusing only on one person and then only coming to a soft conclusion like that.


I can agree to the first point there but that would require some VERY bold mafia and I think that narrows the pool of mafia considerably in the game if that was to happen.

I didn't like the point about him coming to that conclusion after the long post. Did you see my point about him also not giving him a newbie boost despite commenting on the fact that he talked about the bonus he was getting maybe being too large? What are your thoughts on that?

I agree that it would require bold mafia play. I don't think it would narrow down the pool of mafia very much, though.

The newbie bonus part is odd, yes. If he fears that the newbie bonus he's giving is too large it should have some kind of influence on the read.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
September 02 2014 21:47 GMT
#352
On September 03 2014 06:40 Vivax wrote:
3d12 sounds a lot like obviousone.
I also don't think he's scum.

Scum is among this bunch imo:

- Templar
- Kush
- Kita
- 27nb
- micchan


We might be friends this game. I am 4/5 on scum reads with you. Kush being the only exception. What makes you read kush as scum? I'd also have 3d12 in the scum pile in his place.

Vote Micchan with me that dude is scum. Complains about the mess activity and fucks off comes back and throws scum on the person being scum read by lots of people then defends himself with his 3 posts like thats his whole filter. I'm going to case him in a second so once I've posted you can just say "wow great post poofter" and vote.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
September 02 2014 21:48 GMT
#353
On September 03 2014 06:42 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2014 06:39 Tehpoofter wrote:
On September 03 2014 06:35 mderg wrote:
On September 03 2014 06:22 kushm4sta wrote:
On September 03 2014 05:38 mderg wrote:
Anyone else thinking that 3d12 is trying hard to get some newbie bonus?


how so


These give off that feeling to me. I may be thinking too much into it, though.
On September 02 2014 08:44 3d12 wrote:
Forgive me if this seems like kind of a newbie question, but after catching up on the thread, the main thing that sticks out to me is the discussion about the voting. I'm not sure this is a good way to flush out scum. Personally, I'm with Damdred on the opinion that cutting the vote off early will cause tunneling on whoever has the majority at that point, so could someone enlighten me further on why this strategy would help?

On September 02 2014 09:09 3d12 wrote:
Edit-post to fix quote formatting:

On September 02 2014 08:08 The_Templar wrote:
And the missions are required for mafia… or they will die. I would say that's better for us anyway.


I didn't quote the post directly. Sorry.

On September 03 2014 01:04 3d12 wrote:
You're right, I thought I saw a third vote for batsnacks. Sorry. I wish there was a neater way to find the current vote count. Is there a program or something that I could use to loop through the thread and count the votes?



I think thats a stretch I don't think I'd give him townie points for any of these posts as even as a noob you could say them from either alignment. I think its is townie of you to point it out like it seems as if you're looking for scum.



Would you agree that 3d12's posts carry an apologetic tone? If yes, why do you think he is posting this way?


I do think that he is apologetic in nature on his posts. His entrance landed him in the scummy side for me because of the way it agreed with someone who already posted about something I thought was scummy. If hes scum its to try to scoot out of a lynch. He could be town trying to figure things out. He stays as scum for now to me thought.

What about you?
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
September 02 2014 21:54 GMT
#354
On September 03 2014 06:44 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2014 06:28 Tehpoofter wrote:
On September 03 2014 06:21 mderg wrote:
On September 03 2014 06:09 Tehpoofter wrote:
On September 03 2014 05:47 mderg wrote:
On September 03 2014 05:44 Tehpoofter wrote:
On September 02 2014 17:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
Talking about missions is bad, also dont do it.

Obi, why did you vote for bunnies at the start of the game?

just saw 3d's post, calls out micchan for being quiet, doesnt call me out for not posting at all. Clearly sheeping someone's previous sentiment.



I think you're wrong on point one if someone is allowed to do weird ass things as mafia because people aren't thinking about missions then mafia has an easier time. Plus if we are bringing up the missions and one of us actually gets it right even if we don't catch a mafia immediately from it they still could be very nervous about posting just in general or meeting the mission and it could become more awkward (read easier for us to catch) for them to accomplish it. We might as well talk about something unique to the game it would be like not talking about the cell's in cell mafia or the button in catastrophe.

I don't like the mindset of "ignore the missions" to me its like "Lets just be quiet about something WE KNOW MAFIA IS DOING and let everyone ponder it individually vs collectively"

Your previous post about batsnacks reads from one post is 100% right anyone getting a read off that is silly. As far as I was concerned as of last night batsnacks hadn't posted.

If mafia does weird ass things they're still doing weird ass things, regardless of us thinking about the missions.



Bleh I agree on principal but my wording was bad. Something that may not seem weird normally in this game might be a mission. I'm going to keep talking about them because its basically a key clue that we have this game that if we don't use we're just hurting ourselves and making mafia play as normal. Like earlier imagine if the mission was to change votes at EoD or something silly like that and we decided after 1 hour prior to deadline no vote switches were to happen. Mafia would be petrified to make a change because it would make them look not townie. They'd have to contrive something and a simple vote switch at EoD would suddenly become a huge chore to them and without the discussion something like that would go unnoticed most likely or be written off.

What about templar making a long post makes him scummy to you?

I think playing out of the ordinary to make missions fail can also hurt town. Especially if mafia has a "good" idea to stop a potential mission that might make us play suboptimal. I just don't like the idea of making big changes to our play for the off chance of figuring out a mission.

What makes him scummy to me is that he made the long post focusing only on one person and then only coming to a soft conclusion like that.


I can agree to the first point there but that would require some VERY bold mafia and I think that narrows the pool of mafia considerably in the game if that was to happen.

I didn't like the point about him coming to that conclusion after the long post. Did you see my point about him also not giving him a newbie boost despite commenting on the fact that he talked about the bonus he was getting maybe being too large? What are your thoughts on that?

I agree that it would require bold mafia play. I don't think it would narrow down the pool of mafia very much, though.

The newbie bonus part is odd, yes. If he fears that the newbie bonus he's giving is too large it should have some kind of influence on the read.


Really? I can think of about 3-4 people in the game who might be able to pull that off successfully although it wouldn't account for partners but would require one of them.

Yeah I agree on the newbie bonus points.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22027 Posts
September 02 2014 21:56 GMT
#355
On September 03 2014 06:47 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2014 06:40 Vivax wrote:
3d12 sounds a lot like obviousone.
I also don't think he's scum.

Scum is among this bunch imo:

- Templar
- Kush
- Kita
- 27nb
- micchan


We might be friends this game. I am 4/5 on scum reads with you. Kush being the only exception. What makes you read kush as scum? I'd also have 3d12 in the scum pile in his place.

Vote Micchan with me that dude is scum. Complains about the mess activity and fucks off comes back and throws scum on the person being scum read by lots of people then defends himself with his 3 posts like thats his whole filter. I'm going to case him in a second so once I've posted you can just say "wow great post poofter" and vote.


Kush is possibly scum cause I wasn't able to say he's supertown yet.

Don't see scumminess in 3d12's posts so I prefer to keep him in my town pile.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
September 02 2014 22:03 GMT
#356
On September 03 2014 06:54 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2014 06:44 mderg wrote:
On September 03 2014 06:28 Tehpoofter wrote:
On September 03 2014 06:21 mderg wrote:
On September 03 2014 06:09 Tehpoofter wrote:
On September 03 2014 05:47 mderg wrote:
On September 03 2014 05:44 Tehpoofter wrote:
On September 02 2014 17:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
Talking about missions is bad, also dont do it.

Obi, why did you vote for bunnies at the start of the game?

just saw 3d's post, calls out micchan for being quiet, doesnt call me out for not posting at all. Clearly sheeping someone's previous sentiment.



I think you're wrong on point one if someone is allowed to do weird ass things as mafia because people aren't thinking about missions then mafia has an easier time. Plus if we are bringing up the missions and one of us actually gets it right even if we don't catch a mafia immediately from it they still could be very nervous about posting just in general or meeting the mission and it could become more awkward (read easier for us to catch) for them to accomplish it. We might as well talk about something unique to the game it would be like not talking about the cell's in cell mafia or the button in catastrophe.

I don't like the mindset of "ignore the missions" to me its like "Lets just be quiet about something WE KNOW MAFIA IS DOING and let everyone ponder it individually vs collectively"

Your previous post about batsnacks reads from one post is 100% right anyone getting a read off that is silly. As far as I was concerned as of last night batsnacks hadn't posted.

If mafia does weird ass things they're still doing weird ass things, regardless of us thinking about the missions.



Bleh I agree on principal but my wording was bad. Something that may not seem weird normally in this game might be a mission. I'm going to keep talking about them because its basically a key clue that we have this game that if we don't use we're just hurting ourselves and making mafia play as normal. Like earlier imagine if the mission was to change votes at EoD or something silly like that and we decided after 1 hour prior to deadline no vote switches were to happen. Mafia would be petrified to make a change because it would make them look not townie. They'd have to contrive something and a simple vote switch at EoD would suddenly become a huge chore to them and without the discussion something like that would go unnoticed most likely or be written off.

What about templar making a long post makes him scummy to you?

I think playing out of the ordinary to make missions fail can also hurt town. Especially if mafia has a "good" idea to stop a potential mission that might make us play suboptimal. I just don't like the idea of making big changes to our play for the off chance of figuring out a mission.

What makes him scummy to me is that he made the long post focusing only on one person and then only coming to a soft conclusion like that.


I can agree to the first point there but that would require some VERY bold mafia and I think that narrows the pool of mafia considerably in the game if that was to happen.

I didn't like the point about him coming to that conclusion after the long post. Did you see my point about him also not giving him a newbie boost despite commenting on the fact that he talked about the bonus he was getting maybe being too large? What are your thoughts on that?

I agree that it would require bold mafia play. I don't think it would narrow down the pool of mafia very much, though.

The newbie bonus part is odd, yes. If he fears that the newbie bonus he's giving is too large it should have some kind of influence on the read.


Really? I can think of about 3-4 people in the game who might be able to pull that off successfully although it wouldn't account for partners but would require one of them.

Yeah I agree on the newbie bonus points.

There's not many people who could pull that off but we wouldn't know that they did. So I don't think we could really narrow down the pool of scum.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
September 02 2014 22:14 GMT
#357
On September 03 2014 06:48 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2014 06:42 batsnacks wrote:
On September 03 2014 06:39 Tehpoofter wrote:
On September 03 2014 06:35 mderg wrote:
On September 03 2014 06:22 kushm4sta wrote:
On September 03 2014 05:38 mderg wrote:
Anyone else thinking that 3d12 is trying hard to get some newbie bonus?


how so


These give off that feeling to me. I may be thinking too much into it, though.
On September 02 2014 08:44 3d12 wrote:
Forgive me if this seems like kind of a newbie question, but after catching up on the thread, the main thing that sticks out to me is the discussion about the voting. I'm not sure this is a good way to flush out scum. Personally, I'm with Damdred on the opinion that cutting the vote off early will cause tunneling on whoever has the majority at that point, so could someone enlighten me further on why this strategy would help?

On September 02 2014 09:09 3d12 wrote:
Edit-post to fix quote formatting:

On September 02 2014 08:08 The_Templar wrote:
And the missions are required for mafia… or they will die. I would say that's better for us anyway.


I didn't quote the post directly. Sorry.

On September 03 2014 01:04 3d12 wrote:
You're right, I thought I saw a third vote for batsnacks. Sorry. I wish there was a neater way to find the current vote count. Is there a program or something that I could use to loop through the thread and count the votes?



I think thats a stretch I don't think I'd give him townie points for any of these posts as even as a noob you could say them from either alignment. I think its is townie of you to point it out like it seems as if you're looking for scum.



Would you agree that 3d12's posts carry an apologetic tone? If yes, why do you think he is posting this way?


I do think that he is apologetic in nature on his posts. His entrance landed him in the scummy side for me because of the way it agreed with someone who already posted about something I thought was scummy. If hes scum its to try to scoot out of a lynch. He could be town trying to figure things out. He stays as scum for now to me thought.

What about you?


I agree that his tone sounds apologetic but I do not think in his case that this is alignment indicative. Reading his filter, I noticed he has been posting like this since before the game even began. Here are some posts before the game started:

On August 30 2014 00:51 3d12 wrote:
/in

I've never played, so if you're alright with a newbie joining in, then please do sign me up. I've read a few of the guides already though, and it seems like an interesting format. Seems like the type of game that might even be more fun in IRC format.


On August 30 2014 05:50 3d12 wrote:
Sorry for the double-post, but I just wanted to double-check. (And bear with me, this is only the first of what will likely be a deluge of dumb newbie questions)

Is the deadline of 12:30pm PDT the deadline for confirmation, or the deadline to post each day?


Then this is his first post as of the game starting:

On September 02 2014 08:44 3d12 wrote:
Forgive me if this seems like kind of a newbie question, but after catching up on the thread, the main thing that sticks out to me is the discussion about the voting. I'm not sure this is a good way to flush out scum. Personally, I'm with Damdred on the opinion that cutting the vote off early will cause tunneling on whoever has the majority at that point, so could someone enlighten me further on why this strategy would help?


An apologetic tone would usually raise alarm bells for me. Townies are inherently innocent and shouldn't be afraid of saying the wrong thing or accidentally saying too much; they have no reason to apologize. If townies are afraid of speaking their mind that might be an indicator of a poor thread environment. However, since 3d12 has been posting like this since before the game began I believe he's just nervous about playing in general. People have been going after him since his first post so there hasn't even been an opportunity for him to calm down yet. Overall I do not think 3d12's apologies are scummy.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
September 02 2014 22:18 GMT
#358
Micchan is mafia!


He is playing directly too a bunch of mafia stereotypes.

1) Lurking This post contains his entire filter

2)Complaining about the thread but doing nothing at all to fix it. He makes this post then bails out for hours!

On September 02 2014 09:32 Micchan wrote:
Its only the start of the phase #mess


3)Poking in to prod at an easy target that was already under thread suspicion at the time.

On September 03 2014 02:28 Micchan wrote:
Ok here whatever
Im srry 3d i highly suspect ing u after backtracking...ur obviously trying to divert attention rn...


4)Defends instead of pushing scum.

On September 03 2014 02:31 Micchan wrote:
Im not lurking yesterday ...just after i made my first post something happened and i need to go thats just it



This last point is the weakest one as its not a very hard defense but its literally 1/3rd of his filter. I believe I'm the only one voting on him currently this needs to change he deserves pressure for this type of posting.

##Unvote
##Vote Micchan

batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
September 02 2014 22:25 GMT
#359
The OP says a voting thread will be used. I should probably take my vote off templar in that case. I didn't think it would count when I voted.

##unvote

@tehpoofter : Are you intentionally choosing easy targets? Also your vote was already on micchan?

On September 02 2014 12:18 Tehpoofter wrote:
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On September 02 2014 12:16 Damdred wrote:
@3d when you return could you talk more about why you think bat is doing that (as in him being provocative etc) and why town bats would just do that and run out of the thread? Feels like you are giving him a pass on it to easily at this point, though I do not think it is beyond town bats to do it either.


On September 02 2014 09:32 Micchan wrote:
Its only the start of the phase #mess


Why complain and run out of the thread, give us some thoughts about whats going on in the thread.





I didn't even see this post tbh..... thats really weird.


##unvote

##Vote: Micchan



Hai fix the mess please.

Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
September 02 2014 22:29 GMT
#360
On September 03 2014 07:25 batsnacks wrote:
The OP says a voting thread will be used. I should probably take my vote off templar in that case. I didn't think it would count when I voted.

##unvote

@tehpoofter : Are you intentionally choosing easy targets? Also your vote was already on micchan?

Show nested quote +
On September 02 2014 12:18 Tehpoofter wrote:
On September 02 2014 12:16 Damdred wrote:
@3d when you return could you talk more about why you think bat is doing that (as in him being provocative etc) and why town bats would just do that and run out of the thread? Feels like you are giving him a pass on it to easily at this point, though I do not think it is beyond town bats to do it either.


On September 02 2014 09:32 Micchan wrote:
Its only the start of the phase #mess


Why complain and run out of the thread, give us some thoughts about whats going on in the thread.





I didn't even see this post tbh..... thats really weird.


##unvote

##Vote: Micchan



Hai fix the mess please.



I realized that afterwards lol

Oh its a voting thread well dammit. Will update.

I think that his actions are scummy easy to find or not if he plays like that its scummy. Are you telling me you think that what he has done is townie?

IF not you should vote for him.
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