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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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Damdred
15669 Posts
On September 03 2014 00:44 27ninjabunnies wrote: So a fool's win condition is to be lynched (hey, could be a mafia mission too). Basically, I'm trying to keep all my options open. It's how I approach the game. For all I know, we don't even have 3p or vigi. But it was just an idea. So, therefore, that's why I said shoot him rather than lynch. As for 3d12, more of a gut read, but I don't like his posting. Sure the bs read is slightly based on that, but his posting is awkward in general. Oh i misunderstood what you were saying about bats, I thought you were just calling him a fool in general not the role fool. I do not know if their is a third party so i'll leave that alone for now. But does awkward=scummy always? Is that a good way to go about scum reading people? | ||
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3d12
United States100 Posts
On September 02 2014 22:26 kushm4sta wrote: So why am I scum? "jumping on the bandwagon?" not really a bandwagon since there are only two people voting for batsnacks, and I didn't really jump on it cause I was the first vote. "refuting vivax" Why are my refutations scummy? What has vivax said that makes sense? You're right, I thought I saw a third vote for batsnacks. Sorry. I wish there was a neater way to find the current vote count. Is there a program or something that I could use to loop through the thread and count the votes? As for refuting Vivax, I said that because Vivax is the one that I'm getting the most positive read from so far. He's pointed out very good inconsistency between Templar and kita, and even though Templar has made a few good posts to better explain his views, kita's evasiveness is something to be observed more closely, I think. On September 02 2014 22:12 kitaman27 wrote: How do you feel about obi and poofter so far? Obi is a bit of a mystery, but is starting to look more pink to me. The fact that he was so willing to vote out bat for what was likely a provocation post makes me question his motives, but the fact that he instantly switched his view to Templar after receiving some pressure is a bit more fishy. More data is needed, but the radar is definitely reading slightly pink. Poofter seems alright though; his posts are generally low-content, but unless we revisit the idea of missions involving post count, that's not enough for me to read him as scum. On September 02 2014 17:54 Oatsmaster wrote: just saw 3d's post, calls out micchan for being quiet, doesnt call me out for not posting at all. Clearly sheeping someone's previous sentiment. Or anticipating your mod-kill due to 12 hours without post.  Welcome to the game. (And my suspect list, lol)Care to share any opinion on Templar or mderg? | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
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3d12
United States100 Posts
On September 03 2014 01:11 Damdred wrote: Actually 3d, why are you ignoring bunnies right now? She has said a couple times that she would be happy to get you out of the game, what do you think of that? Why did you put off commenting on it? Not worth comment, imo. She said herself that her read on me is only a "gut read," and if people are happy with bandwagoning on a gut feeling to have me lynched, I'll happily /obs and laugh as the scum runs away with the game. | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
On September 03 2014 01:30 3d12 wrote: Not worth comment, imo. She said herself that her read on me is only a "gut read," and if people are happy with bandwagoning on a gut feeling to have me lynched, I'll happily /obs and laugh as the scum runs away with the game. Well I can understand that. However what do you think of bunnies posts besides her gut feeling on you? | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On September 03 2014 00:07 27ninjabunnies wrote: @ Batsnacks terrible post Inb4 there are third party roles, BS is fool, and therefore trying to get himself lynched. @3d12's post How is posting random useless things, random voting someone, town? He posted a useless post, random voted Templar, and then disappeared. Not townie at all, but see above post. I say if we have a vigi, shoot him. JS @Micchan's post Lurkfest incoming @Kita's post So In a way, I think the idea of having all votes in an hour early isn't such a bad idea (unless that is mafia's mission). My thing is, why focus on missions when we need to find mafia? I think it's going to cause a lot of tension and bad reads to focus on squashing missions rather than lynching off the mafia. Idk I also don't see how Templar's post was low quality? @Templar, so why are these posts the most interesting to you? Batsnacks grabs everyone's attention by making us collectively say "wtf". Immediately votes the first reaction that's not specifically asking about the post to the post. This could theoretically, but unlikely, be seen as a townie move but it's very shallow. 3d12 is a newbie to this game so it's normal (read: null read) to agree with people and to come up with reasons why a more seasoned player could be doing something silly/very odd. Unless Batsnacks' account was hacked there has to be a reason why he posted that so the normal initial reaction is to figure out why. Micchan is obviously watching if he has posted that the thread has become a mess. Since he is watching, we need him to offer his insight if possible, to see where he is. Micchan, since you're reading this, start posting dammit. Nobody is going to get away with lurking this game if we can help it. Kita's idea had two main problems with it. 1. Not everyone will be here at EOD (and mafia could screw with us by pretending to be AFK) so it will be more of a mess than normal. 2. He immediately rescinded the idea when someone questioned it. I don't like how indecisive that is. While I don't mind his policies so far he doesn't seem to be sticking with anything. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
Kita scum or town | ||
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On September 03 2014 02:09 Oatsmaster wrote: What about the other questions and stuff that kita has put forward? Kita scum or town Pink. The number of reads he is asking about and then later saying what he thought is unusually high IMO. On September 02 2014 11:10 kitaman27 wrote: It would be a scum read if he does this repeatedly. It's too early to go after that for a single post. If he starts interacting with the thread, then I'm not as concerned. Who do you find worse, 3d12 or batsnack? I don't like these sort of questions because they can be used as a two-way tool depending on the answer. On September 02 2014 11:35 kitaman27 wrote: Well I found 3d12 and batsnacks more scummy and mentioned that in the exact same post. Templar was kinda scummy, but not a huge deal to me if it was a one time thing, as I stated. In reference to this last post and the one in the spoiler: + Show Spoiler + On September 02 2014 10:33 kitaman27 wrote: Well that idea would be that the day cycle would be like any other game, except 47 hours instead of 48 hours. You still would have 2 wagons and voting analysis could still be done since the player with the most votes after 47 hours would be lynched. The only difference would be that everyone moves to that player in the last hour. On second thought, people aren't really reliable enough to be around and now that the day is a few hours old, its not really worth discussing policy like that which isn't incredibly important so I say we should probably just drop the idea. Templar's long post wasn't all that interesting, but I won't fault him for sharing thoughts. It will be important to see if he continues to share thoughts rather than making disconnected catch up posts. batsnacks is around, but has chosen not to post so I wouldn't mind a couple of votes on him. Micchan is a reasonable alternative if he doesn't have anything to say either. I see batsnacks voting templar after a large low quality post, but I don't see how you automatically come to this conclusion that his is town based on his vote and assume he is playing provocative. It makes me suspicious of you and I wonder if you may know he is town and are attempting to come up with an suggestion that explains his play without the information being there. There is a bit of inconsistency if I am reading this correctly as there is no mention of 3d12 and batsnacks in that post. However, these thoughts were expressed earlier. On September 02 2014 22:12 kitaman27 wrote: How do you feel about obi and poofter so far? Another (more so) two-way post. He hasn't said a word about poofter so far, particularly. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On September 02 2014 22:12 kitaman27 wrote: How do you feel about obi and poofter so far? Obi is a bit of a mystery, but is starting to look more pink to me. The fact that he was so willing to vote out bat for what was likely a provocation post makes me question his motives, but the fact that he instantly switched his view to Templar after receiving some pressure is a bit more fishy. More data is needed, but the radar is definitely reading slightly pink.[/quote] On September 02 2014 17:24 3d12 wrote: It wasn't who he voted for, it was how he voted and why. By casting a vote in a random direction, one can sit back and observe how people react to that vote. That's not typically Mafia behavior, though I will admit the long-winded post from earlier had me confused as well. All in all, it's a tough read; but if I had to imagine myself in his position, I wouldn't imagine he'd want to make such a big target out of himself on D1 if he were Mafia. On September 02 2014 04:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Reporting in. ##vote 27nb So why doesn't your logic that gives you a town read on bat, not apply to obi? Didn't he "cast a vote in a random direction"? You say bat wouldn't want to make a big target of himself as mafia by random voting, but obi would? This seems inconsistent to me. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On September 03 2014 02:21 kitaman27 wrote: So why doesn't your logic that gives you a town read on bat, not apply to obi? Didn't he "cast a vote in a random direction"? You say bat wouldn't want to make a big target of himself as mafia by random voting, but obi would? This seems inconsistent to me. EBWOP | ||
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On September 03 2014 02:21 kitaman27 wrote: Obi is a bit of a mystery, but is starting to look more pink to me. The fact that he was so willing to vote out bat for what was likely a provocation post makes me question his motives, but the fact that he instantly switched his view to Templar after receiving some pressure is a bit more fishy. More data is needed, but the radar is definitely reading slightly pink. On September 02 2014 17:24 3d12 wrote: It wasn't who he voted for, it was how he voted and why. By casting a vote in a random direction, one can sit back and observe how people react to that vote. That's not typically Mafia behavior, though I will admit the long-winded post from earlier had me confused as well. All in all, it's a tough read; but if I had to imagine myself in his position, I wouldn't imagine he'd want to make such a big target out of himself on D1 if he were Mafia. On September 02 2014 04:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Reporting in. ##vote 27nb Did you intend to respond to your own post? So why doesn't your logic that gives you a town read on bat, not apply to obi? Didn't he "cast a vote in a random direction"? You say bat wouldn't want to make a big target of himself as mafia by random voting, but obi would? This seems inconsistent to me.[/QUOTE] | ||
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
Did you intend to respond to your own post? | ||
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On September 03 2014 02:24 The_Templar wrote: EBWOP >.> Did you intend to respond to your own post? EBWOP #2 Apparently you didn't. Disregard -.- | ||
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On September 03 2014 02:17 The_Templar wrote: I don't like these sort of questions because they can be used as a two-way tool depending on the answer. On September 03 2014 02:17 The_Templar wrote: Another (more so) two-way post. He hasn't said a word about poofter so far, particularly. The reason I asked that was because 3d gave bat a town read for his "provocative" random vote so I brought up the two other players who did the same thing, wondering if he would use the same reasoning, which doesn't seem to be the case. I don't see how you find me suspicious for trying to figure things like that out. | ||
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Micchan
Malaysia9 Posts
Im srry 3d i highly suspect ing u after backtracking...ur obviously trying to divert attention rn... | ||
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On September 03 2014 02:28 Micchan wrote: Ok here whatever Im srry 3d i highly suspect ing u after backtracking...ur obviously trying to divert attention rn... Could you elaborate about what he is diverting attention from? | ||
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On September 03 2014 02:25 kitaman27 wrote: The reason I asked that was because 3d gave bat a town read for his "provocative" random vote so I brought up the two other players who did the same thing, wondering if he would use the same reasoning, which doesn't seem to be the case. I don't see how you find me suspicious for trying to figure things like that out. Hm. There are some parallels but batsnack's vote might have been planned while Obi's obviously wasn't and Tehpoofter said he was intending to troll this game which is why he sheeped. 3d12 managed to come up with a reason to sheep before he read batsnacks as green. Thanks for clarifying your ideas. I have to go to class now and I will not be back for about 7 hours. | ||
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Micchan
Malaysia9 Posts
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