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27ninjabunnies
United States2486 Posts
On September 02 2014 06:48 Tehpoofter wrote: I think this will sum up why you were voted quite nicely: Glad you're down to vote early. Ouch. Much hurt. Anyway, so I'm off to work. Have fun convincing people I'm scum day 1! | ||
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mderg
Germany1740 Posts
On September 02 2014 06:29 Tehpoofter wrote: to each his own but picking different words than me = wolfie. You don't like my incredibly creative words? | ||
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Tehpoofter
United States2911 Posts
On September 02 2014 06:49 mderg wrote: You don't like my incredibly creative words? not at all. For flavor reasons and because wording wise it could potentially make a difference on a mission. However thinking about it a bit more the words probably wouldn't matter. So we can live in each other's word worlds. | ||
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Tehpoofter
United States2911 Posts
On September 02 2014 06:49 27ninjabunnies wrote: Ouch. Much hurt. Anyway, so I'm off to work. Have fun convincing people I'm scum day 1! If the shoe fits.. | ||
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27ninjabunnies
United States2486 Posts
It's actually hard to find shoes that fit me. | ||
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batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/kd5Opc8.png) 11. T'ai / Peace
The Receptive, which moves downward, stands above; the Creative, which moves upward, is below. Hence their influences meet and are in harmony, so that all living things bloom and prosper. This hexagram belongs to the first month (February-March), at which time the forces of nature prepare the new spring. THE JUDGMENT
This hexagram denotes a time in nature when heaven seems to be on earth. Heaven has placed itself beneath the earth, and so their powers unite in deep harmony. Then peace and blessing descend upon all living things. In the world of man it is a time of social harmony; those in high places show favor to the lowly, and the lowly and inferior is an end to all feuds. In side, at the center, in the key position, is the light principle; the dark principle is outside. Thus the light has a powerful influence, while the dark is submissive. In this way each receives its due. When the good elements of society occupy a central position and are in control, the evil elements come under their influence and change for the better. When the spirit of heaven rules in man, his animal nature also comes under its influence and takes its appropriate place. The individual lines enter the hexagram from below and leave it again at the top. Here the small, weak, and evil elements are about to take their departure, while the great, strong, and good elements are moving up. This brings good fortune and success. THE IMAGE
Heaven and earth are in contact and combine their influences, producing a time of universal flowering and prosperity. This stream of energy must be regulated by the ruler of men. It is done by a process of division. Thus men divide the uniform flow of time into the seasons, according to the succession of natural phenomena, and mark off infinite space by the points of the compass. In this way nature in its overwhelming profusion of phenomena is bounded and controlled. One the other hand, nature must be furthered in her productiveness. This is done by adjusting the products to the right time and the right place, which increases the natural yield. This controlling and furthering activity of man in his relation to nature is the work on nature that rewards him. THE LINES
In times of prosperity every able man called to fill an office draws like minded people along with him, just as in pulling up ribbon grass one always pulls up a bunch of it, because the stalks are connected by their roots. In such times, when it is possible to extend influence widely, the mind of an able man is set upon going out into life and accomplishing something.
In times of prosperity it is important and above all to possess enough greatness of soul to bear with imperfect people. For in the hands of a great master no material is unproductive; he can find use for everything. But this generosity is by no means laxity or weakness. It is during times of prosperity especially that we must always be ready to risk even dangerous undertakings, such as the crossing of a river, if they are necessary. So too we must not neglect what is distant but must attend scrupulously to everything. Factionalism and the dominance of cliques are especially to be avoided. Even if people of like mind come forward together, they ought not to form a faction by holding together for mutual advantage; instead, each man should do is duty. Theses are four ways in which one can overcome the hidden danger of a gradual slackening that always lurks in any time of peace. And that is how one finds the middle way for action.
The sovereign I is T'ang the Completer. By his decree the imperial princesses, although higher in rank than their husbands, had to obey them like all other wives. Here too we are shown a truly modest union of high and low that brings happiness and blessings. | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
I really like the idea of trying to break the mafias mission as we go towards the EoD. Though I do not think that we need to drive ourselves crazy trying to figure out exactly what the mission is. We need to develop our reads and reasoning behind having the people up for lynch and every night cycle or day cycle look into how people are voting and see if there are any trends that people take together. Also just curious when you say cut the day short by an hour and just move all votes to the person who has the majority, doesn't that make our options kind of small and cause a tunnel on that person. If we go that way there really isn't much in the way of vote analysis to go with its just everyone pushed their votes on that one person and we can't see voting patterns for that time period when its important I guess is what i'm saying. That part worries me a bit. | ||
The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On August 31 2014 04:09 The_Templar wrote: No, because I will be scum as I always am. Not scum. Streak broken. Pre-game On September 02 2014 02:15 Cavalinho wrote: Actually, I decided I'm going to use this account for this game. Don't ask me why. I don't have a reason. Why? (What's your other account?) On September 02 2014 02:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Meh, nevermind. I'm not switching accounts 50 times just to play on the other one. This is fine. This is it? On September 02 2014 02:27 Cavalinho wrote: Nah, I changed my mind again. I'm using this one. For realsies this time. God damn it On September 02 2014 02:45 27ninjabunnies wrote: Stahp, you just gonna confuse everyone. Agreed On September 02 2014 03:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Mission accomplished. >.> Fluff/Short response On September 02 2014 04:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Reporting in. ##vote 27nb You were literally just here. Is there something about ninjabunny's meta that I should know about or is this random/grudge? On September 02 2014 05:03 kitaman27 wrote: Hi Hi. Hmm, the only thing that I can think of for a mafia "mission" is something along the lines of, player X must receive at least # votes or player Y must be convinced to vote for player Z. Or maybe identify the player with role Z. Mafia dying if they fail these seems is pretty harsh, so I think we should pay extra attention of players voting certain ways without explanation after the 24 hour mark. I'd also be less willing to believe cop checks for the sake of mafia needing to use a fake one to complete their mission, but I guess it's too early to worry about something like that. Missions aren't important yet. Anyway, it's hard to know what they are going to be, there's nearly no description. On September 02 2014 05:19 Tehpoofter wrote: ITS MISSION MAFIA!!!!!! My goal: Find mafia Subgoal: Find out mafia's mission SubSubgoal (read: actual goal): Troll Oh god not you again. On September 02 2014 05:19 Tehpoofter wrote: This is a great case. Sheeping. ##Vote 27nb …… On September 02 2014 06:10 27ninjabunnies wrote: I'm here, but you voted me to die. I thought we were friends, Banks. Damn, that vote hurts. As for the rest of you scrubs, hi. So here's how we are going to do it. Tehpoof has 3 chances to say wolf. When he hits number 4 I'm voting him. You've already said it once. 3 more, and you are out buddy. we are like 1 hour in the game at this point and you are trying to get into a knife fight with poof? haha On September 02 2014 06:27 27ninjabunnies wrote: ##Vote:Tehpoofter I don't have a mission, but you deserve to die So… you were friendly with each other, but you are trying to find excuses to lynch him?.. On September 02 2014 06:46 Tehpoofter wrote: Also are you templar that plays video mafia often? I feel like you're not but was checking. Never played video mafia. This discussion was in a recent mini game that I was in. On September 02 2014 06:48 Tehpoofter wrote: I think this will sum up why you were voted quite nicely: Glad you're down to vote early. What does this bolded part mean? On September 02 2014 07:40 batsnacks wrote: + Show Spoiler + I've got some reads for ya'll: 11. T'ai / Peace
The Receptive, which moves downward, stands above; the Creative, which moves upward, is below. Hence their influences meet and are in harmony, so that all living things bloom and prosper. This hexagram belongs to the first month (February-March), at which time the forces of nature prepare the new spring. THE JUDGMENT
This hexagram denotes a time in nature when heaven seems to be on earth. Heaven has placed itself beneath the earth, and so their powers unite in deep harmony. Then peace and blessing descend upon all living things. In the world of man it is a time of social harmony; those in high places show favor to the lowly, and the lowly and inferior is an end to all feuds. In side, at the center, in the key position, is the light principle; the dark principle is outside. Thus the light has a powerful influence, while the dark is submissive. In this way each receives its due. When the good elements of society occupy a central position and are in control, the evil elements come under their influence and change for the better. When the spirit of heaven rules in man, his animal nature also comes under its influence and takes its appropriate place. The individual lines enter the hexagram from below and leave it again at the top. Here the small, weak, and evil elements are about to take their departure, while the great, strong, and good elements are moving up. This brings good fortune and success. THE IMAGE
Heaven and earth are in contact and combine their influences, producing a time of universal flowering and prosperity. This stream of energy must be regulated by the ruler of men. It is done by a process of division. Thus men divide the uniform flow of time into the seasons, according to the succession of natural phenomena, and mark off infinite space by the points of the compass. In this way nature in its overwhelming profusion of phenomena is bounded and controlled. One the other hand, nature must be furthered in her productiveness. This is done by adjusting the products to the right time and the right place, which increases the natural yield. This controlling and furthering activity of man in his relation to nature is the work on nature that rewards him. THE LINES
In times of prosperity every able man called to fill an office draws like minded people along with him, just as in pulling up ribbon grass one always pulls up a bunch of it, because the stalks are connected by their roots. In such times, when it is possible to extend influence widely, the mind of an able man is set upon going out into life and accomplishing something.
In times of prosperity it is important and above all to possess enough greatness of soul to bear with imperfect people. For in the hands of a great master no material is unproductive; he can find use for everything. But this generosity is by no means laxity or weakness. It is during times of prosperity especially that we must always be ready to risk even dangerous undertakings, such as the crossing of a river, if they are necessary. So too we must not neglect what is distant but must attend scrupulously to everything. Factionalism and the dominance of cliques are especially to be avoided. Even if people of like mind come forward together, they ought not to form a faction by holding together for mutual advantage; instead, each man should do is duty. Theses are four ways in which one can overcome the hidden danger of a gradual slackening that always lurks in any time of peace. And that is how one finds the middle way for action.
The sovereign I is T'ang the Completer. By his decree the imperial princesses, although higher in rank than their husbands, had to obey them like all other wives. Here too we are shown a truly modest union of high and low that brings happiness and blessings. …wat Serious/long responses On September 02 2014 05:12 mderg wrote: I think it's too early to really worry about the missions as we have absolutely no idea what those missions look like. Thinking too much about the missions may just lead to focusing on unimportant details without getting good reads. IMO proper reads > catching people on missions This is a good post. We are playing mafia, and since this game is mostly normal we should proceed as (mostly) normal. If a mission becomes apparent we can focus on it, but I don't want to see a wild goose chase over something that could just be a coincidence. On September 02 2014 05:22 Tehpoofter wrote: requiring a fake claim does seem a bit harsh. Voting patterns could be key here. Maybe it could have to do with post counts or accusations/list. This is going to be so fun. Kita if you tell me your mission I won't vote you out first. This post doesn't actually say anything new. It echoes certain parts of the post you quoted while trying to be friendly/funny with the "hey tell me your mission lol" aspect of it. On September 02 2014 05:25 kitaman27 wrote: True, though at this point nobody has any proper reads for at least a few more hours. I'd prefer to to speculate to see if we can come up with any policies to break the system. For example, if we all agree to cut the day cycle short by one hour as if that were the deadline and then all move our votes to whoever had the majority at that point, we might be able to trigger a failure on a vote related mission. Something else to keep in mind may be getting baited into using certain trigger words. For instance, perhaps the mafia player needs 3 people to say the phrase "OMGUS" during the cycle or something. And if this is the case we can't actually do anything about it, besides trying to not copy other people's words/phrases. Personally I'm bad with abbreviations so I won't be using them unless it describes the situation perfectly/is obvious. In response to the bolded part, no. It takes away from potentially valuable EOD information and is unlikely to work. On September 02 2014 07:42 Damdred wrote: Hi guys, just got home a few ago and caught up. I really like the idea of trying to break the mafias mission as we go towards the EoD. Though I do not think that we need to drive ourselves crazy trying to figure out exactly what the mission is. We need to develop our reads and reasoning behind having the people up for lynch and every night cycle or day cycle look into how people are voting and see if there are any trends that people take together. Also just curious when you say cut the day short by an hour and just move all votes to the person who has the majority, doesn't that make our options kind of small and cause a tunnel on that person. If we go that way there really isn't much in the way of vote analysis to go with its just everyone pushed their votes on that one person and we can't see voting patterns for that time period when its important I guess is what i'm saying. That part worries me a bit. While it's a good idea, in theory, to look for a mission by the mafia, the truth is we have no freaking idea what the mission might be. I'm not going to chase after the mist in the distance. And the missions are required for mafia… or they will die. I would say that's better for us anyway. Reads We are like 2.5 hours into the game so none of my reads are definitive at all. My spectrum goes from Mafia --> Red --> Pink --> White (null) <-- Turquoise <-- Green <-- Town Reds: None Pinks: Tehpoofter (focusing too much on avoiding missions) ObiWanShinobi (disappeared at beginning of the day after potentially controversial vote) 27ninjabunnies (huge over-reaction to early pressure) Whites: kitaman27 (Need to hear reasoning behind made posts, which are odd IMO) Everyone not mentioned Turquoise: mderg Damdred (these two are by virtue of being pretty much the only other people to post. They both made reasonable posts) Greens: None And… I already fell into the trap of overanalyzing in the first few hours. >.> | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
Batsnacks, what was the point of your gigantic wall of useless shit? | ||
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On September 02 2014 08:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Templar, all of your scumreads are incredibly superficial. Just throwing that out there. That's because the entire game is superficial so far. | ||
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
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batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
On September 02 2014 08:25 batsnacks wrote: ##vote: The_Templar Care to explain this? | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
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3d12
United States100 Posts
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On September 02 2014 08:25 batsnacks wrote: ##vote: The_Templar LOL | ||
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On September 02 2014 08:39 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Also, I'd really like to point out that this isn't the game to be posting stupid gifs/random useless shit. I actually really want to kill batsnacks for posting his wall because I really can't see any kind of town/goofy reason for him to put it up there unless the host made him. No way host made him post that, it's way too obvious + really quick to be anything mission-related. Not sure what it is actually :\ Agreed with the no stupid/offtopic stuff. | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
If I may draw your attention to Guilty mafia that just completed, we swung the vote in the last 30 seconds almost to lynch mafia day one. If we get stuck to much in the mindset that we have to find the mission and break it, or piling on votes to one wagon (which i think is what was discussed) is a good idea. It really is not today, or any day. We really need at least two wagons going just so we have another option and we can see peoples voting patterns take form after day1,2,3 etc.. What do you think about Templars post, and batsnacks vote? | ||
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3d12
United States100 Posts
From Templar's post, I think this stuck out to me the most: [quote="The_Templar"] And the missions are required for mafia… or they will die. I would say that's better for us anyway[/quote] He makes a good point. We're making a witch-hunt out of nothing right now. I think batsnacks is judging reactions and playing provocateur. He looks pretty town from where I'm standing, but I don't have all my chips on the table just yet.  | ||
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3d12
United States100 Posts
On September 02 2014 08:08 The_Templar wrote: And the missions are required for mafia… or they will die. I would say that's better for us anyway. I didn't quote the post directly. Sorry. | ||
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