Guilty Mini Mafia

On August 23 2014 01:54 justanothertownie wrote:

What are you trying to achieve by asking this?

On August 23 2014 06:16 Hapahauli wrote:


I'm trying to lynch mafia. Is that your gameplan as well?



Vayne is vayne. I really don't see how someone could lean on his alignment one way or the other. I wouldn't be opposed to vig shotting him though.

As for Wave, I think he's town. There's a lot of "I just wanna have fun" stuff in his filter that strikes me as more of his town persona. Not 100% obviously, but would not lynch today.



Aimless does make Rayn scummy. He's not pushing any objectives. He's just talking about things to blend in. There's no method, no focus, no... madness that I expect from a town Rayn.

On August 23 2014 07:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
HERE. HERE IS THE REASON WHY HAPA IS MAFIA:
He does not state why he thinks i am scum. He just says stuff without saying why it is scummy.

On August 23 2014 09:45 Xatalos wrote:
Link to ## Mafia?

On August 24 2014 01:22 KelsierSC wrote:
As for my reads

Town - Dam,GB,Turtle,JAT,VA,WoS,rayn,Hapa

Scum - Yam,Xat

null - Onegu

Obviously one of town reads is wrong but for d1 i like to make a big town circle and eliminate from there.

On August 24 2014 02:44 justanothertownie wrote:
Since when do you care about the lynch day1, vayne?

On August 24 2014 02:48 justanothertownie wrote:

Ok, who do we lynch?

On August 24 2014 02:55 Damdred wrote:


Do epople actually believe i haven't said anything original? or are they just trying to piss me off....This is the stupidest thing against me its like you aren't even reading the thread

On August 23 2014 07:18 VayneAuthority wrote:
if anything yamato is scum for the simple reason that he already wants to lynch me, look at every scumgame he has ever played and he always tries to gets me lynched, he has some weird fetish for it.

On August 23 2014 05:54 VayneAuthority wrote:
I don't understand hapa's entrance. its meant to make a big splash so to speak even in the word choice. But in the end its just covering up an awful case on a player that we aren't going to lynch day 1. What is your gameplan here?

On August 24 2014 05:50 Hapahauli wrote:
Actually yeah you're right on the above. However that doesn't really change the basic point of my case - I could as well have taken out the section on you sheeping thread sentiment and the basic point would have still stood.

When you represent yourself as helpful and attempting to fix an awful thread, you did the least productive thing possible -you went off to an irrelevant wagon and barely pushed it.

On August 24 2014 05:54 Hapahauli wrote:


I don't need meta to show that representing your play as something other than you're doing is scummy.

On August 24 2014 06:05 justanothertownie wrote:

Now that you got your answer - what is your scientific insight?

On August 24 2014 06:08 Damdred wrote:
Vayne, You disapeared on me earlier after I made my post. Are you still scum reading me for the reasons you posted? Feels a bit weird that you made the post a follow up and then left

On August 24 2014 06:17 justanothertownie wrote:

You barely have a case on yamato. You are just stating the obvious and anyone could do that.
Your case on Vayne is not bad maybe. The good point here is that Vayne actually trys to look like he is interested which is not his townmeta as far as I see it.

On August 24 2014 06:19 Damdred wrote:




These are your two points on me. You agreed with me on GB, you said you disagreed with the wave stuff (did you disagree with my conclussion or that it was original content?) and wrote the rest of my things off as fluff which I disagree with.

Both of your points even if you still think i'm fluffy are disproved. Am I really worth your vote right now? Yamato is the easy vote so no I won't push him right now i'm not 100% that this is his scum game even if its hard not to vote for him right now, some of his stuff shows actual thoughts behind it even if he hasn't posted a case on wave like he promised yet...

Either way I disagree where your vote is and your reasons for voting

On August 24 2014 06:23 Damdred wrote:


Obviously the only place to go is scum hunt, i've already put forth that I think Xatalos is pretty scummy. And I don't like Onegu case on Rayn and his promise to read the thread and contribute has him not really doing anything at all.

And honestly i'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish day one vayne

On August 25 2014 04:38 Hapahauli wrote:


Would you say you were subjectively useful yesterday?

With your vote being on Damdred and all.

On August 25 2014 11:02 Hapahauli wrote:


Why on earth wouldn't you use your cop check first?

On August 25 2014 11:12 Hapahauli wrote:


Watcher would have been great too. You literally picked the most useless night action out of your toolkit.

On August 25 2014 12:34 Damdred wrote:
I'm reminded in Titanic when Vayne claimed the shot on Rayn even though Batsnacks did it and almost got himself lynched doing that.

On August 26 2014 00:40 WaveofShadow wrote:

Actually it's particularly interesting that Onegu suspected Rayn last before he fucked off---I'm pretty sure nobody expected him to die, least of all scum so as scum it's a 'safe' target to leave suspicion on. Now that Rayn flipped Onegu actually looks worse than I thought.

Also VA the fact that you think that was a good use of your role is pretty hilarious

On August 26 2014 02:22 Xatalos wrote:
So I don't think anyone outside of VA/Onegu would be a good lynch today. Hapa is just too risky.

On August 26 2014 04:48 Hapahauli wrote:
Also, I still think VA is our lynch today.

Everything he's done today:

• Sketchy Claim
  
• Sheep thread sentiment read-wise (Onegu is scum, I am SK).

This post in particular is pretty bad:


I have no idea how anyone could view Onegu as confirmed scum, considering what's in Onegu's filter (or lack thereof). It's a read that screams "convenience" as opposed to genuinity, just like Vayne's claim.

On August 26 2014 05:32 Hapahauli wrote:


How does he have to be scum? You didn't confirm anything about Damdred - you said it yourself. Hell what about Kelsier, Wave and Xatalos?

On August 26 2014 05:46 Hapahauli wrote:


As I pointed out before, Xatalos was in a situation where he was forced to vote literally anyone but himself (him being the alternative wagon). I read him town from behavior and from the general "feel" of the lynch (likely that two townies were on the block), but that doesn't mean he "confirmed" in the same way that others are.

RE: Wave - there's no reason for mafia not to object to the lynch. In one of my first games (Newbie 23), we ended up last-minute lynching the Godfather, and the only active scum at the deadline was objecting to the lynch. There's no reason why mafia can't do that.

If you want to read them as town for other reasons, I'm all ears. But you're making these sweeping conclusions about the lynch that just aren't correct.



So who is the 3rd mafia then? You've basically confirmed everyone but Onegu, which means that you're terribly wrong about at least one person.

On August 26 2014 07:59 Xatalos wrote:
Did Onegu just forget about this game or something? He hasn't posted in ages.

On August 26 2014 13:10 GlowingBear wrote:


It's actually the main reason. And cl aiming now nullifies all your other really important skills. Why doing that?

On August 28 2014 10:23 Xatalos wrote:


Well what do you think of the game now? Reads?