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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
August 06 2014 15:51 GMT
#1861
On August 07 2014 00:34 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2014 00:28 kushm4sta wrote:
On August 05 2014 22:53 gobbledydook wrote:
On August 04 2014 18:56 HaruRH wrote:
Artanis feels scummy for buddying with someone who had suspect entrance and suspect posts.


Then he votes Artanis without any reason other than basically other people voted too. No attempt to substantiate the vote. If he were trying to scumhunt would he not have a better reason than 'Artanis is close to someone I think is suspicious'? I thought mafia generally avoid associating with each other? The conclusion therefore, is he's just voting so he can put his vote somewhere.


Read the bolded closely. GD is making it seem like Haru is making an association case between artanis and whoever. When Haru's reason for suspecting artanis actually had nothing to do with associations.

maybe you could not snip pertinent parts of his post when you try to interpret it...

right before that he points out that Haru was sheeping:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2014 22:53 gobbledydook wrote:
On August 04 2014 18:56 HaruRH wrote:
Artanis feels scummy for buddying with someone who had suspect entrance and suspect posts.


On August 04 2014 19:04 HaruRH wrote:
On August 04 2014 08:18 Eden1892 wrote:
I propose the following rule: If a majority of the members of the /towncircle agree to policy lynch someone, all members of the /towncircle must follow through on the policy lynch until the person who initially proposed it unvotes the target.


##Unvote
##Vote: Artanis


Here he sheeps on Artanis. The post before the vote he says something really vague that isn't even necessarily correct. Then he votes Artanis without any reason other than basically other people voted too. No attempt to substantiate the vote. If he were trying to scumhunt would he not have a better reason than 'Artanis is close to someone I think is suspicious'? I thought mafia generally avoid associating with each other? The conclusion therefore, is he's just voting so he can put his vote somewhere.

gobble is assessing the only reason Haru gave, which Haru did in fact give - that Arty felt scummy for buddying someone suspicious. this isn't a misinterpretation at all



Not sure what you are getting at here.
Haru thought Artanis was scummy for buddying someone suspicious.
Gobbles says that makes no sense because scum wouldn't buddy scum. But Haru does not imply that scum is buddying scum. He says that artanis is buddying some who LOOKS scummy.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 06 2014 15:51 GMT
#1862
On August 07 2014 00:51 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2014 00:49 marvellosity wrote:
On August 07 2014 00:48 Eden1892 wrote:
ok, so aside from sheeping kush onto gobble, who else do you want to kill

dunno.

only need to kill 1 at once.

if you've done fucktons this game, how is it that you ended up with nothing from it?

How come you ask the most pointless questions in the universe?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
August 06 2014 15:52 GMT
#1863
On August 07 2014 00:51 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2014 00:51 Eden1892 wrote:
On August 07 2014 00:49 marvellosity wrote:
On August 07 2014 00:48 Eden1892 wrote:
ok, so aside from sheeping kush onto gobble, who else do you want to kill

dunno.

only need to kill 1 at once.

if you've done fucktons this game, how is it that you ended up with nothing from it?

How come you ask the most pointless questions in the universe?

How come day2 hasn't even begun and you are already calling a leap of faith neccessary?
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 06 2014 15:53 GMT
#1864
On August 07 2014 00:52 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2014 00:51 marvellosity wrote:
On August 07 2014 00:51 Eden1892 wrote:
On August 07 2014 00:49 marvellosity wrote:
On August 07 2014 00:48 Eden1892 wrote:
ok, so aside from sheeping kush onto gobble, who else do you want to kill

dunno.

only need to kill 1 at once.

if you've done fucktons this game, how is it that you ended up with nothing from it?

How come you ask the most pointless questions in the universe?

How come day2 hasn't even begun and you are already calling a leap of faith neccessary?

Why are you joining Eden in the most-pointless-questions-in-the-universe race?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 06 2014 15:53 GMT
#1865
I could do this all day, honestly.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
August 06 2014 15:54 GMT
#1866
On August 07 2014 00:53 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2014 00:52 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 07 2014 00:51 marvellosity wrote:
On August 07 2014 00:51 Eden1892 wrote:
On August 07 2014 00:49 marvellosity wrote:
On August 07 2014 00:48 Eden1892 wrote:
ok, so aside from sheeping kush onto gobble, who else do you want to kill

dunno.

only need to kill 1 at once.

if you've done fucktons this game, how is it that you ended up with nothing from it?

How come you ask the most pointless questions in the universe?

How come day2 hasn't even begun and you are already calling a leap of faith neccessary?

Why are you joining Eden in the most-pointless-questions-in-the-universe race?

Because I don't understand what you are doing.
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 06 2014 15:54 GMT
#1867
On August 07 2014 00:51 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2014 00:34 Eden1892 wrote:
On August 07 2014 00:28 kushm4sta wrote:
On August 05 2014 22:53 gobbledydook wrote:
On August 04 2014 18:56 HaruRH wrote:
Artanis feels scummy for buddying with someone who had suspect entrance and suspect posts.


Then he votes Artanis without any reason other than basically other people voted too. No attempt to substantiate the vote. If he were trying to scumhunt would he not have a better reason than 'Artanis is close to someone I think is suspicious'? I thought mafia generally avoid associating with each other? The conclusion therefore, is he's just voting so he can put his vote somewhere.


Read the bolded closely. GD is making it seem like Haru is making an association case between artanis and whoever. When Haru's reason for suspecting artanis actually had nothing to do with associations.

maybe you could not snip pertinent parts of his post when you try to interpret it...

right before that he points out that Haru was sheeping:
On August 05 2014 22:53 gobbledydook wrote:
On August 04 2014 18:56 HaruRH wrote:
Artanis feels scummy for buddying with someone who had suspect entrance and suspect posts.


On August 04 2014 19:04 HaruRH wrote:
On August 04 2014 08:18 Eden1892 wrote:
I propose the following rule: If a majority of the members of the /towncircle agree to policy lynch someone, all members of the /towncircle must follow through on the policy lynch until the person who initially proposed it unvotes the target.


##Unvote
##Vote: Artanis


Here he sheeps on Artanis. The post before the vote he says something really vague that isn't even necessarily correct. Then he votes Artanis without any reason other than basically other people voted too. No attempt to substantiate the vote. If he were trying to scumhunt would he not have a better reason than 'Artanis is close to someone I think is suspicious'? I thought mafia generally avoid associating with each other? The conclusion therefore, is he's just voting so he can put his vote somewhere.

gobble is assessing the only reason Haru gave, which Haru did in fact give - that Arty felt scummy for buddying someone suspicious. this isn't a misinterpretation at all



Not sure what you are getting at here.
Haru thought Artanis was scummy for buddying someone suspicious.
Gobbles says that makes no sense because scum wouldn't buddy scum. But Haru does not imply that scum is buddying scum. He says that artanis is buddying some who LOOKS scummy.

that strikes me as a really meaningless distinction. can you explain for me why that's a meaningful enough distinction not only to warrant calling the missing of that distinction a misinterpretation, but a willful one?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 06 2014 15:54 GMT
#1868
On August 07 2014 00:54 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2014 00:53 marvellosity wrote:
On August 07 2014 00:52 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 07 2014 00:51 marvellosity wrote:
On August 07 2014 00:51 Eden1892 wrote:
On August 07 2014 00:49 marvellosity wrote:
On August 07 2014 00:48 Eden1892 wrote:
ok, so aside from sheeping kush onto gobble, who else do you want to kill

dunno.

only need to kill 1 at once.

if you've done fucktons this game, how is it that you ended up with nothing from it?

How come you ask the most pointless questions in the universe?

How come day2 hasn't even begun and you are already calling a leap of faith neccessary?

Why are you joining Eden in the most-pointless-questions-in-the-universe race?

Because I don't understand what you are doing.

it's perfectly clear. if you don't like it, fine, but asking me questions that have no relevance to anything isn't going to help either, is it.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 06 2014 15:55 GMT
#1869
On August 07 2014 00:51 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2014 00:51 Eden1892 wrote:
On August 07 2014 00:49 marvellosity wrote:
On August 07 2014 00:48 Eden1892 wrote:
ok, so aside from sheeping kush onto gobble, who else do you want to kill

dunno.

only need to kill 1 at once.

if you've done fucktons this game, how is it that you ended up with nothing from it?

How come you ask the most pointless questions in the universe?

not a pointless question. you clearly haven't done fucktons if you have nobody you want to kill without sheeping someone else
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 06 2014 15:55 GMT
#1870
On August 07 2014 00:55 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2014 00:51 marvellosity wrote:
On August 07 2014 00:51 Eden1892 wrote:
On August 07 2014 00:49 marvellosity wrote:
On August 07 2014 00:48 Eden1892 wrote:
ok, so aside from sheeping kush onto gobble, who else do you want to kill

dunno.

only need to kill 1 at once.

if you've done fucktons this game, how is it that you ended up with nothing from it?

How come you ask the most pointless questions in the universe?

not a pointless question. you clearly haven't done fucktons if you have nobody you want to kill without sheeping someone else

you don't understand the game of mafia at all, do you
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
August 06 2014 15:57 GMT
#1871
On August 07 2014 00:54 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2014 00:54 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 07 2014 00:53 marvellosity wrote:
On August 07 2014 00:52 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 07 2014 00:51 marvellosity wrote:
On August 07 2014 00:51 Eden1892 wrote:
On August 07 2014 00:49 marvellosity wrote:
On August 07 2014 00:48 Eden1892 wrote:
ok, so aside from sheeping kush onto gobble, who else do you want to kill

dunno.

only need to kill 1 at once.

if you've done fucktons this game, how is it that you ended up with nothing from it?

How come you ask the most pointless questions in the universe?

How come day2 hasn't even begun and you are already calling a leap of faith neccessary?

Why are you joining Eden in the most-pointless-questions-in-the-universe race?

Because I don't understand what you are doing.

it's perfectly clear. if you don't like it, fine, but asking me questions that have no relevance to anything isn't going to help either, is it.

Let me rephrase. I understand what you are doing but I don't understand WHY.
I don't know if it is going to help but I will still try convince you that this is horseshit.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 06 2014 15:57 GMT
#1872
it's not like you spend 1 hour you get 1 mafia, you spend 2 hours you get 2 mafia

you can spend 10 minutes and find 2 mafia, or you can spend 8 hours and catch 0 mafia.

In this game the guy with fucktons of effort is either wrong or useless, and the guy with no effort is town MVP.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 06 2014 15:57 GMT
#1873
On August 07 2014 00:55 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2014 00:55 Eden1892 wrote:
On August 07 2014 00:51 marvellosity wrote:
On August 07 2014 00:51 Eden1892 wrote:
On August 07 2014 00:49 marvellosity wrote:
On August 07 2014 00:48 Eden1892 wrote:
ok, so aside from sheeping kush onto gobble, who else do you want to kill

dunno.

only need to kill 1 at once.

if you've done fucktons this game, how is it that you ended up with nothing from it?

How come you ask the most pointless questions in the universe?

not a pointless question. you clearly haven't done fucktons if you have nobody you want to kill without sheeping someone else

you don't understand the game of mafia at all, do you

i don't understand what you've done in this game of mafia if you sincerely have no leads

i asked for this, you're being stupidly combative in response. why?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 06 2014 15:58 GMT
#1874
see above. now go away.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 06 2014 15:58 GMT
#1875
Please disregard everyone that scum reads me as terrible. It will work in your best interest. I'm not going to follow kush blindly into something because he also thinks I'm definitely mafia and that's wrong. Onegu has a history of reading me correctly once in a game and then never again and thinks he can then blindly read me forever.

Onegu quotes a post where i say catching up post by post is scummy but then doesn't post the part where i say where theu catch up focusing on irrelevant parts straight away afterwards. He doesn't even acknowledge what poofter is doing like it's some conclusive proof I'm mafia.

Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 06 2014 15:59 GMT
#1876
On August 07 2014 00:57 marvellosity wrote:
it's not like you spend 1 hour you get 1 mafia, you spend 2 hours you get 2 mafia

you can spend 10 minutes and find 2 mafia, or you can spend 8 hours and catch 0 mafia.

In this game the guy with fucktons of effort is either wrong or useless, and the guy with no effort is town MVP.

doesn't matter. i'm not asking you to show me the scum corpses you've strung up. i'm asking you to show me the guys you'd like to string up. mafia leads, not caught mafia. why is that such an unpalatable request?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 06 2014 16:00 GMT
#1877
and if you tell me you have no leads i'm going back to my earlier comment that you shouldn't be sheeping right now
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 06 2014 16:01 GMT
#1878
Like fair enough if he thinks that post is wrong but if he thinks it's wrong then why does he give town points to someone pointing out something he thinks is wrong. If he thinks it's wrong then he also thinks the poofter catch up 3 hours later talking solely about marv and then scum reading him for placing an early vote isn't scummy
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 06 2014 16:01 GMT
#1879
On August 07 2014 00:59 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2014 00:57 marvellosity wrote:
it's not like you spend 1 hour you get 1 mafia, you spend 2 hours you get 2 mafia

you can spend 10 minutes and find 2 mafia, or you can spend 8 hours and catch 0 mafia.

In this game the guy with fucktons of effort is either wrong or useless, and the guy with no effort is town MVP.

doesn't matter. i'm not asking you to show me the scum corpses you've strung up. i'm asking you to show me the guys you'd like to string up. mafia leads, not caught mafia. why is that such an unpalatable request?

why does it matter?

are you going to scumread me for telling you to go away?

if you are, go for it.
if not, leave me alone.

either situation means you stop asking me these mindnumbingly tedious questions.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 06 2014 16:03 GMT
#1880
On August 07 2014 01:01 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2014 00:59 Eden1892 wrote:
On August 07 2014 00:57 marvellosity wrote:
it's not like you spend 1 hour you get 1 mafia, you spend 2 hours you get 2 mafia

you can spend 10 minutes and find 2 mafia, or you can spend 8 hours and catch 0 mafia.

In this game the guy with fucktons of effort is either wrong or useless, and the guy with no effort is town MVP.

doesn't matter. i'm not asking you to show me the scum corpses you've strung up. i'm asking you to show me the guys you'd like to string up. mafia leads, not caught mafia. why is that such an unpalatable request?

why does it matter?

are you going to scumread me for telling you to go away?

if you are, go for it.
if not, leave me alone.

either situation means you stop asking me these mindnumbingly tedious questions.

the questions will continue until morale improves

i don't believe that you can:
1. be town
2. have zero leads
3. be satisfied with that

especially for someone who's supposed to be a lock n1 kill. wtf happens if you're nk'd, kush is wrong and we ml gobble? your sole contribution to the game will have been to sheep two mislynches. you cannot possibly convince me you're okay with that
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
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