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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 05 2014 18:47 GMT
#1301
On August 06 2014 03:13 Tehpoofter wrote:
##Vote gobbledydook

gorgeous
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
goodkarma
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1067 Posts
August 05 2014 18:49 GMT
#1302
The lynch deadline is the worst in the history of deadlines...

Marv wants Vivax dead? I'll sheep that.

##Unvote
##Vote: Vivax


While I still like lynching Poof it kinda is a policy lynch at this point. Not sure how much more I should have expected from the guy...

Vivax, on the other hand, has done some substantially scummy stuff.

On August 05 2014 21:26 kushm4sta wrote:
abou vivax:
Try to understand this post if you dare (I don't suggest it). I spent about 5 minutes on it reading it again and again. So far I think it has something to do with goodkarma being scummy because he didn't read the scumminess of his two scum reads equally, and that is scummy because of some other reason I can't understand. But the fact that he thought through all this shit makes him town.

+ Show Spoiler +
On August 05 2014 00:44 Vivax wrote:
It seems there is a strong difference in Goodkarma's play regarding his two scumreads. I feel he ended up focusing much more on Haru than on WoS, and that after criticizing Haru for nullreading WoS for that.

Like, the one thing GoodKarma had to expect in his opinion was that Haru would scumread WoS with a -1.
I think that if they wanted to nullread somebody as opposed to scumreading him, then scum would prefer ścumreading the townie and null reading the other scum.

If that's what GK might think, too, then he must just feel as strongly scummy about Wave than he does for Haru, cause just then nullreading WoS might show a scum motive.
However all we are left with Goodkarma vs Wave is:

Show nested quote +
Your scumread and dunno read have been pretty active in thread. Kinda curious you haven't had anything to say to them.


WoS wrote this before GK posted that:
Show nested quote +
Scum: Haru---his defense of me is awkward and he immediately backtracks on it when given an out. Rubs me in completely the wrong direction


So they both scumread the same guy, Wave says what he found scummy about Haru, but GoodKarma still asks him that.
Besides, I don't really like the reason WoS is using there for scumreading Haru, so I'm surprised Goodkarma wouldn't also try to get more interactions with WoS aside from that sort of loaded post.



This quote you used Kush was constructed 8 hours after my last post of the night. Don't you find it a bit odd that he'd call me out for not talking to Wave when I was clearly asleep?

I seeded suspicions in this post, but given Vivax didn't ever come back I never followed up.:

On August 05 2014 11:19 goodkarma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2014 10:46 Vivax wrote:
On August 05 2014 10:32 goodkarma wrote:
On August 05 2014 10:19 Vivax wrote:
Not sure yet, waiting for Wave to deliver something more substantial at the moment.

As for you, I have a hard time telling if you're just saying stuff to keep your story straight, you seem to try kinda hard to stay very consistent in your play but I'm not sure if it's me being tunneled or a fact.

Hence it would be helpful for me to know how you want to read Haru if you feel that he's super scummy on one and townie on the other hand. How do you get to the conclusion that his reaction was townie, for example?


I actually can't recall a game where you haven't thought I'm scum. You must really really hate my playstyle...

I've told you exactly how I've read Haru. How a person comes off towny is a semi-subjective thing. Generally when a person curses and screams at their tunneler in the way Haru did it's a town response. It's not a foolproof read by any means, but reads of this ilk have historically served me well. If you're a skeptic, just go with my latter reason (he easily could have just made a scumread up). It's totally valid here. Haru isn't a good lynch today.

And saying you don't know who you want to lynch when the thread's already ~40 pages, and the day's half gone is pretty weak. If you were forced to choose now, who would it be? This question really isn't that hard.


I would be lying if I said I had no scumreads. I'm simply not confident into them yet. Still in the process of deciding on you and WoS, and that's evident, so don't call my play "weak" just cause I don't go guns blazing on you guys, which is something you should actually value if you are town, since I give myself space for reconsideration.

Implying I'm doing something scummy with what I'm doing in your regards isn't something I would expect from a townie in your position to be honest. You see this guy talking to his persons of interest, but not dead set on lynching them, and the first thing coming to your mind is that the play is "weak"?


There's something to be said for still deciding, but there's also something to be said for sticking to safe stances. You haven't outright accused me of being scum, so I'm going to just assume you think I'm town.

Show nested quote +
On August 05 2014 10:50 Vivax wrote:
Btw what's the super scummy stuff you talk about in regard to Haru, when I look at your filter I see you in conversation with him and when I asked you, you said you found it a bit odd what he was doing.

Not really a post where you showcase A to B how what he was doing was super scummy so if you really feel that way it might be a good time to display what it is.


I've just told you Haru's probably town. Not wasting my time discussing this with you, as if it wasn't already obvious.


The guy has been "pressuring" people for a good portion of the game, but he's never really called people scum (until super-recently in a sheepish way). I find this really odd. The Vivax that liked to tunnel me in times past had no trouble doing so.

It's also worth mentioning that he hasn't really touched up on his old reads all that much. Especially me, which is significant given how much time he dedicated to pressuring me before.

In Marv I trust. Sheep sheep.

I really wish I could elaborate more, but this deadline is super awful for me. I'll try to pop in a little before the deadline but don't expect elaborate posts of any kind from me until evening.

One more thing.:

It should be considered that Haru hadn't really shared meaningful reads until his listpost. No matter how he presented his reads it would have looked scummy given all the time that had past. Keep that in mind.
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 05 2014 18:49 GMT
#1303
On August 06 2014 03:29 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2014 22:40 gobbledydook wrote:
To those who are saying im suspicious:

Every game I have played so far I was mafia.

Guess how much I know about playing town. I'm trying, but just that I'm not up to your standards doesn't mean I'm scum. You can also compare this game to my 2 scumgames to see the difference.



GD, what is the difference, would you say?

also this is really your first towngame? because judging by your first two games here on tl, it seems like you have experience playing forum mafia somewhere else.

oh wow lol

no he's played town before on webdip i subbed into a game where he was town and got n1'd

to be fair he prolly means "every game on tl" but at the same time he's not new to being town...
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
goodkarma
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1067 Posts
August 05 2014 18:50 GMT
#1304
I hate to do this but I gotta go. Discuss my casepost please and good luck. I'll be back later.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
August 05 2014 18:51 GMT
#1305
On August 05 2014 19:29 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2014 17:16 Tehpoofter wrote:
Tehpoofter's Love Life


Marry: I am going to be a bit old fashioned here and just pick one man/woman to be the one... that I carry throughout the game with me.
Eden will you be mine?


Bang: I'd tap these assess and its cool cause me and Eden have an open relationship.
Kushm6sta, ObiwAn, GoodKarma, Holyflare


Kill: These people I don't have any interest in banging so they're just plain dead to me.
Goobzilla, Haru, Marv


If you're not on the list its cause You're in that weird spot between I could be interested if you were hotter and drunk one night stand. I can substantiate most of these reads. MArv the least so I am just scared of the game I'm in he is mafia.


##Vote Gooblyzilla

so you're scumreading me because you're scared of me? are you serious?

do you literally have no balls, punk?


On August 05 2014 19:32 marvellosity wrote:
ok jat I'm only a couple pages behind but my list looks something like this:

Town:
Eden
kush
goodkarma

Could be town:
justanothertownie
Obiwanshinobi
Haru
HF

Hmmm:
Wave
gobbledy

Want to kill but not sure if mafia:
TehPoofter


Maybe mafia:
Artanis
Vivax


You want to kill me and you're not sure I'm mafia. Its a respect position. I feel you're good enough that you need to be extra townie to be town. I run into it in video mafia a lot where someone I think is a high caliber player must do more than the normal townie than most because I feel a high caliber player as either alignment can be townie but only super townie as town. You are third though not my first kill or my vote. Make sense?
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 05 2014 18:52 GMT
#1306
we are not killing my spouse today
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
August 05 2014 18:52 GMT
#1307
On August 06 2014 03:49 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2014 03:29 kushm4sta wrote:
On August 05 2014 22:40 gobbledydook wrote:
To those who are saying im suspicious:

Every game I have played so far I was mafia.

Guess how much I know about playing town. I'm trying, but just that I'm not up to your standards doesn't mean I'm scum. You can also compare this game to my 2 scumgames to see the difference.



GD, what is the difference, would you say?

also this is really your first towngame? because judging by your first two games here on tl, it seems like you have experience playing forum mafia somewhere else.

oh wow lol

no he's played town before on webdip i subbed into a game where he was town and got n1'd

to be fair he prolly means "every game on tl" but at the same time he's not new to being town...


everyone see this shit???
LAL it up
##unvote
##vote Gobbledy
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 05 2014 18:54 GMT
#1308
unless he is not actually the gobbledydook from webdip, but happens to know i am the eden from webdip

which would be a hilarious tragedy of fates
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 05 2014 18:55 GMT
#1309
and re: obi's comment about the meta, gobble already lampshaded that his posts were different from his previous scum games before he posted them so i'm even less inclined to look at meta than usual
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22145 Posts
August 05 2014 19:08 GMT
#1310
The guy has been "pressuring" people for a good portion of the game, but he's never really called people scum (until super-recently in a sheepish way). I find this really odd. The Vivax that liked to tunnel me in times past had no trouble doing so.

It's also worth mentioning that he hasn't really touched up on his old reads all that much. Especially me, which is significant given how much time he dedicated to pressuring me before.

In Marv I trust. Sheep sheep.


Bulk of GK's case.
Discuss.

- I don't call people scum whenever I suspect them so I'm scum.
- I don't tunnel although I tunneled earlier so I'm scum.
- I find Gobble to be the best option right now as opposed to WoS and GK so I'm scum
- Marv fandom so I'm scum.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 05 2014 19:09 GMT
#1311
There's 0 chance marv is mafia what the fuck? Vivax doing the scummiest shit.

##unvote
##vote vivax
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 05 2014 19:18 GMT
#1312
Like you come in at a point that haru is getting scum read and then you completely try and draw it onto gd instead based on him changing reasons to scum read someone as if more things didn't happen in the game???
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16321 Posts
August 05 2014 19:21 GMT
#1313
On August 06 2014 02:36 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2014 02:32 Eden1892 wrote:
i feel like haru and artanis are both town somehow

god damn it


why is haru town?

I thought you townread Haru? Wut?
On August 06 2014 03:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2014 02:56 Eden1892 wrote:
meh fuck it

##VOTE: gobbledydook

i'm buying vivax's comment that the case on haru looked scum-driven, and tbh i don't understand how it is that at one point last night everyone itt was like "this dude looks scummy" but he never got a vote


A legitimate thing to go after him, but I don't think gd is a really good vote. I feel like he's just being clumsy and people are kind of picking him apart. I've seen his scumgame first hand, but I don't really feel like this is it.

Honestly, I think most of it stems from how he dealt with the Artanis wagon. Last game he was mafia, he went out and piled onto lynches for the worst reasons (going after me for randomly voting, then pushing Robik really hard because BH RNG'd him, etc) so I don't really see him letting Artanis off the hook when people are still strongly considering him today's lynch.

Where have you been all the time? This posts is so wishy washy...
On August 06 2014 03:14 Vivax wrote:
Anyway Obi, you think we should let go of him to go after marv or what is your current objective?

This is seriously getting annoying. We are not lynching marv today.
On August 06 2014 03:27 Tehpoofter wrote:
Back for like an hour b4 work seems we need to find a majority somewhere let's do it. First I read from last night

Captain obvious is here. Without any meaningful help to find a majority of course.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22145 Posts
August 05 2014 19:22 GMT
#1314
I think most of the reasons that have been used to scumread Haru have been very weak, starting from you nitpicking the -1 + 1 to GK echoing that, and then gobble adding his own mustard on top. Generally I am assuming that his wagon is today's scum wagon of choice, though it might become me cause marv has to prove his point by dickwaggling and not lynching scum, and scum can't miss that chance.

Next people on my wagon: Artanis and Gobble.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22145 Posts
August 05 2014 19:23 GMT
#1315
Yeah marv might actually be town just for the 8 pages of filter.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 05 2014 19:26 GMT
#1316
JESUS FUCK YOU'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT THE +1-1 THING SO MUCH LATER WHEN I NEVER EVEN MADE A SCUM READ BASED ON IT. You're a dirty liar and dirty liars are mafia. You have also said ABSOLUTELY 0 things about haru and instead attacked the ppl on haru. Why have you not commented on how he scum reads someone for lurker reads but then has lurker reads and then completely changes his story afterwards when called out??
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 05 2014 19:26 GMT
#1317
It's completely devoid of even looking at haru.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16321 Posts
August 05 2014 19:28 GMT
#1318
On August 06 2014 04:26 Holyflare wrote:
JESUS FUCK YOU'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT THE +1-1 THING SO MUCH LATER WHEN I NEVER EVEN MADE A SCUM READ BASED ON IT.

The time warp is real.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 05 2014 19:29 GMT
#1319
HF do you not want to lynch haru anymore or is it just Vivax being even scummier?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 05 2014 19:30 GMT
#1320
Also I can't get behind Gobble as scum. I know I'm town and I see no reason why he'd abandon my wagon when there's still plenty of steam for it. The change in attitude when it was unnecessary makes no sense for him from a scum perspective.
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