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kushm4sta
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Vivax
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On August 06 2014 03:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote: A legitimate thing to go after him, but I don't think gd is a really good vote. I feel like he's just being clumsy and people are kind of picking him apart. I've seen his scumgame first hand, but I don't really feel like this is it. Honestly, I think most of it stems from how he dealt with the Artanis wagon. Last game he was mafia, he went out and piled onto lynches for the worst reasons (going after me for randomly voting, then pushing Robik really hard because BH RNG'd him, etc) so I don't really see him letting Artanis off the hook when people are still strongly considering him today's lynch. I prefer to focus on his opinion on Haru. That case of him simply gives me the hyperbole feeling, plus some instances where it looks like he scumreads him for stuff he didn't care about earlier. And yes, he let off of Artanis rather quickly. Artanis came into the thread at some point, posted very mixed stuff that made him look like he was interested into scumhunting, and then peaced out with a gif. Seemed like a very minimalistic approach and if I were suspicious of Artanis before I wouldn't go full out "meh he has contributed now it's fine" without trying to look harder at the context or what he had wrote. | ||
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Vivax
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ObiWanShinobi
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On August 06 2014 03:11 kushm4sta wrote: obi, see my above post, how that was a terrible/incorrect reason to scumread haru? Are we talking about Haru or gd here? | ||
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kushm4sta
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kushm4sta
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On August 06 2014 02:51 kushm4sta wrote: Dunno, but that might be him being purposefully dense. I noticed in his last scumgame he likes to subtly misrepresent people to make them look scummy. The misrepresentation is this: Haru isn't calling both people scummy, he's calling artanis scummy for buddying someone who looks scummy. im talking about gd here. he misunderstands haru it a way that makes haru look potentially scummy. | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
On August 06 2014 03:14 Vivax wrote: Anyway Obi, you think we should let go of him to go after marv or what is your current objective? My current objective is to find someone to sheep. I'm not feeling a Marv lynch anymore because I don't feel like what I was thinking holds a whole lot of merit at this point. Plus, he made a bunch of really good posts since then, so that definitely helps. I'm still down to kill Haru, because I think self-metaing yourself as town is bullshit/scummy. I feel like I need to filter dive Artanis, because I thought that a bunch of his earlier defenses were really blendy defenses. I think his meta of me is bullshit and he never really followed it up with anything. I just don't know who I want to lynch right now and it's a little disheartening. | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
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On August 06 2014 03:16 kushm4sta wrote: im talking about gd here. he misunderstands haru it a way that makes haru look potentially scummy. Again, I don't think he's mafia. It's a matter of bad townie vs mafia posting, and I simply don't see anything mafia-esque about this post. Also, I don't know why you're talking about him subtly misrepresenting people, because the last scumgame he had that we were both in, he passionately went after Robik because of RNG. I don't really think that was necessarily "subtle" in any sense of the word. | ||
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kushm4sta
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On August 06 2014 03:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Again, I don't think he's mafia. It's a matter of bad townie vs mafia posting, and I simply don't see anything mafia-esque about this post. Also, I don't know why you're talking about him subtly misrepresenting people, because the last scumgame he had that we were both in, he passionately went after Robik because of RNG. I don't really think that was necessarily "subtle" in any sense of the word. This is the post: On July 20 2014 16:46 gobbledydook wrote: First I don't think snickers and damdred are both mafia and making a show out of it. If they were both mafia, they wouldn't attack each other and give town a chance to lynch them. So at most 1 of them can be mafia. What damdred did: he defends robik's rng lynch, gives some excuse for being inactive, then accuses snickers of being scummy because he doesn't respond directly to questions. Then he votes BH for not having any read other than rng. BH dies right before he could unvote, day 2 he hammers MM1, then day 3 is damdred twisting himself hard to apologize for lynching 2 towns. Here's my take on what damdred's thinking: damdred the scum wanted some town cred, so he makes the obvious defense of robik, forgoing the chance to hammer him day 1 as it would be very suspicious. Snicker attacks his lack of contribution, and damdred gives an excuse, anniversary with wife etc. We don't know if that was actually true, so let's assume it was the case and damdred was indeed busy. Then, feeling the need to 'contribute', he looks at the person who last attacked him, looks through his filter, and picks holes in it. Unfortunately the snickers bandwagon doesn't work and seeing a promising BH bandwagon hops on it with little explanation. He puts unvote after the hammer has hit to earn towncred for attempting to thwart the mislynch. Day 2 he hammers MM1 because it's a mislynch for the taking. Day 3, snickers presses him on the BH vote and MM1 vote. Now feeling that snickers is on to something, he tries to defend himself and apologise and bend over himself, but snickers smells scum and he panics. The impression is that he's only writing when being pressured, and otherwise trying to lay low. I'm not going to vote yet, I want to hear more from everyone first. | ||
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Vivax
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Tehpoofter
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ObiWanShinobi
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On August 06 2014 03:26 Vivax wrote: Not sure if you're town or scum based off this but going after 1 guy cause he self metaes himself as town isn't a sufficient reason to scumread somebody. I can see people of both alignments doing that and I might have resorted to it in the past when I was town as well though I cba to go back and prove it cause I don't want to take the meta ride right now. Same as marv self meta reads himself as not scum based on his past 2 games. I won't use that as a reason to scumread him but if you do it for Haru why don't you do it for your previous scumread marv??? Marv has made good posts and asked good questions, and Haru hasn't. It's that simple. | ||
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kushm4sta
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On August 05 2014 22:40 gobbledydook wrote: To those who are saying im suspicious: Every game I have played so far I was mafia. Guess how much I know about playing town. I'm trying, but just that I'm not up to your standards doesn't mean I'm scum. You can also compare this game to my 2 scumgames to see the difference. GD, what is the difference, would you say? also this is really your first towngame? because judging by your first two games here on tl, it seems like you have experience playing forum mafia somewhere else. | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
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I see it. I'll do a reread of his filter here and Noir 2 and come to a decision asap. | ||
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Vivax
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On August 06 2014 03:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Marv has made good posts and asked good questions, and Haru hasn't. It's that simple. Do you think all scum make shitty posts and all town makes good posts? You still have a long way to go. You have to look at how people react to situations and if Gobble first soft defends haru and later scumreads him for a mix of reasons that already applied later when the wagon already has momentum you see that it's not a very townie reaction. His post just feels like the sort of post CR made on Xata in titanic. | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
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On August 06 2014 03:32 Vivax wrote: Do you think all scum make shitty posts and all town makes good posts? You still have a long way to go. You have to look at how people react to situations and if Gobble first soft defends haru and later scumreads him for a mix of reasons that already applied later when the wagon already has momentum you see that it's not a very townie reaction. His post just feels like the sort of post CR made on Xata in titanic. No, I don't. What the fuck, that's just what I said GD was doing in terms of scumreading Haru. I said I'll look into it, so I'm going to look into it. | ||
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LoneMeow
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Artanis[Xp] (3): gobbledydook (3): Vivax, Eden1892, Tehpoofter Eden1892 (0): Vivax (1): Tehpoofter (1): ObiWanShinobi (0): HaruRH (4): WaveofShadow (0): marvellosity (0): Not voting (1): ObiWanShinobi With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is Tuesday, Aug 05 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ). + Show Spoiler [Vote counter log] + VOTE: Eden1892 voted Eden1892 (post) VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted Eden1892 (post) VOTE: Artanis[Xp] voted Marvellosity (marvellosity) (post) VOTE: Eden1892 voted marvellosity (post) VOTE: Vivax voted marvellosity (post) VOTE: HaruRH voted marvellosity (post) VOTE: WaveofShadow voted marvellosity (post) VOTE: ObiWanShinobi voted Wave (WaveofShadow) (post) VOTE: gobbledydook voted HaruRH (post) VOTE: kushm4sta voted WoS (WaveofShadow) (post) VOTE: kushm4sta unvoted WaveofShadow (post) ERROR: kushm4sta voted invalid player gg (post) VOTE: gobbledydook unvoted HaruRH (post) VOTE: gobbledydook voted Artanis[XP] (Artanis[Xp]) (post) VOTE: marvellosity voted Artanis (Artanis[Xp]) (post) WARNING: marvellosity changed vote without unvote (post) VOTE: marvellosity unvoted Artanis[Xp] (post) VOTE: marvellosity voted Artanis[xp] (Artanis[Xp]) (post) VOTE: marvellosity unvoted Artanis[Xp] (post) VOTE: marvellosity voted Artanis[xp] (Artanis[Xp]) (post) VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted marvellosity (post) VOTE: Eden1892 voted WaveofShadow (post) VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted WaveofShadow (post) VOTE: Eden1892 voted Artanis[Xp] (post) VOTE: HaruRH unvoted marvellosity (post) VOTE: HaruRH voted Artanis [xp] (Artanis[Xp]) (post) WARNING: kushm4sta unvoted without vote (post) VOTE: kushm4sta voted artanis (Artanis[Xp]) (post) VOTE: ObiWanShinobi unvoted WaveofShadow (post) VOTE: ObiWanShinobi voted marv (marvellosity) (post) VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted Artanis[Xp] (post) VOTE: Eden1892 voted WaveofShadow (post) VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted WaveofShadow (post) VOTE: Eden1892 voted ObiWanShinobi (post) VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted ObiWanShinobi (post) VOTE: Eden1892 voted WaveofShadow (post) VOTE: Holyflare voted obiwanshinobi (ObiWanShinobi) (post) VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted WaveofShadow (post) VOTE: Eden1892 voted ObiWanShinobi (post) VOTE: WaveofShadow unvoted marvellosity (post) VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted ObiWanShinobi (post) VOTE: Eden1892 voted Artanis[Xp] (post) VOTE: WaveofShadow voted HaruRH (post) VOTE: Holyflare unvoted ObiWanShinobi (post) VOTE: Holyflare voted tehpoofter (Tehpoofter) (post) VOTE: goodkarma voted Tehpoofter (post) VOTE: Holyflare unvoted Tehpoofter (post) VOTE: gobbledydook unvoted Artanis[Xp] (post) VOTE: gobbledydook voted Tehpoofter (post) ERROR: Tehpoofter voted invalid player Gooblyzilla (post) VOTE: Holyflare voted artanis[Xp] (Artanis[Xp]) (post) VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted Artanis[Xp] (post) VOTE: Eden1892 voted Vivax (post) VOTE: Artanis[Xp] unvoted marvellosity (post) VOTE: Artanis[Xp] voted HaruRH (post) VOTE: marvellosity unvoted Artanis[Xp] (post) VOTE: marvellosity voted HaruRH (post) VOTE: gobbledydook unvoted Tehpoofter (post) VOTE: gobbledydook voted HaruRH (post) VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted Vivax (post) VOTE: Eden1892 voted HaruRH (post) VOTE: justanothertownie voted HaruRH (post) VOTE: marvellosity unvoted HaruRH (post) VOTE: marvellosity voted Vivax (post) VOTE: Vivax unvoted marvellosity (post) VOTE: Vivax voted gobbledydook (post) VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted HaruRH (post) VOTE: Eden1892 voted gobbledydook (post) VOTE: Tehpoofter voted gobbledydook (post) VOTE: ObiWanShinobi unvoted marvellosity (post) | ||
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Vivax
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Can I call you TehPoo? | ||
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Tehpoofter
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On August 06 2014 03:37 Vivax wrote: Ninja vote from TehPoofter. Can I call you TehPoo? just correcting my earlier vote apparently "gooblyzilla" didn't count  | ||
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Tehpoofter
United States2911 Posts
On August 05 2014 19:14 marvellosity wrote: The metric so far suggests mafia -> null, if you're interested :p Good good. Although I think I'm going to fck it up today because of the deadline and show up town guess I'll have to wait until next game to break it. | ||
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Your reasons suck. 
but in my read thus far his posts have seemed pretty carefree and unless his scum team is really good I think its porbably more townie. I might have to bang him but going to finish the next 10 pages or sof irst before I make another scummy as fuck bang marry kil list. 
