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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 05 2014 15:04 GMT
#1181
On August 06 2014 00:03 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2014 00:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 06 2014 00:00 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 05 2014 23:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 05 2014 23:55 kushm4sta wrote:
itt artanis sheeps/buddies marv, gangbangs haru

But I have different reasons for scumreading haru than marv does and voted him before he did. Marv showed a stronger inclination to lynch Vivax first.

But you didn't really push it before marv started to. Now that he is on it you suddenly start to question Haru.

Actually, it was after Gobble that I did.

Which was basically at the same time?

I had already indicated Haru was my top scumread, so it's not really relevant.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 05 2014 15:05 GMT
#1182
On August 06 2014 00:02 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2014 00:00 Vivax wrote:
Marv is dumb and probably only chose me cause I still have the policy vote on him, ignore whatever stupid shit he says.


Besides, he didn't really say anything, he only put it out there that I could be scum and then started reinforcing people's opinions without adding much of his own.

In fact, I was the first to say:
On August 05 2014 18:44 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2014 18:39 Eden1892 wrote:
: (

ooo why vivax
i forget what i thought about him so he's back to indifferent for me

This is almost precisely it.

I can't really remember anything Vivax has said beyond rambling for a long time about this that and the other.

His posts don't seem to have any impetus or direction; I don't know what he's trying to achieve or where he's trying to push town.

He just "exists" in this thread and I don't know why.

So ...yeah

keep bullshitting, Vivax. Just try it on me.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 05 2014 15:05 GMT
#1183
Anyway, I'm off for now. I'll be back later tonight.
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
August 05 2014 15:05 GMT
#1184
On August 05 2014 08:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2014 03:32 kushm4sta wrote:
On August 05 2014 00:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
That's a pretty bad list kush.


how do you know

I'm on it for one, and I have minor townreads on the other two.

Haru, you've mentioned you favour Obi the most for a lynch today. Why have you not been pushing him or trying to interact with him? He's here and he's your biggest scumread yet you're not doing anything.

Show nested quote +
On August 05 2014 07:30 Eden1892 wrote:
poofter town lean for posting relaxed and carefree like a townie
minor town lean tho he needs to actually do something or else he'll be on the radar by day's end

gobble i'd have to go look up specifics to give a coherent explanation but i remember his posts having a lot of clarity of direction to them. he seemed like he was playing open and like he wasn't holding anything back. just looks townie to me

I don't think that's a good tell for poof. I've seen him post in cell as scum and he was very carefree there too. I'm not sure what really sets him out as mafia.


Your meta read on poofter is the weirdest thing ever. You meta read as null if he was carefree, but town if he spammed town today. How are these 2 mutually exclusive such that a non-carefree pooft would spam town over a carefree pooft, who wouldn't and thus fall into his supposed mafia meta, which you alteady said you don't know what sets him out as mafia?
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
August 05 2014 15:06 GMT
#1185
On August 05 2014 09:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
If Poof doesn't post that he's town at least 100 times today we should lynch him.


Relevant quote
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16321 Posts
August 05 2014 15:06 GMT
#1186
On August 06 2014 00:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2014 00:03 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 06 2014 00:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 06 2014 00:00 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 05 2014 23:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 05 2014 23:55 kushm4sta wrote:
itt artanis sheeps/buddies marv, gangbangs haru

But I have different reasons for scumreading haru than marv does and voted him before he did. Marv showed a stronger inclination to lynch Vivax first.

But you didn't really push it before marv started to. Now that he is on it you suddenly start to question Haru.

Actually, it was after Gobble that I did.

Which was basically at the same time?

I had already indicated Haru was my top scumread, so it's not really relevant.

Yes, it is. You did indicate it earlier but you only started pushing and more importantly questioning when they started to.
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 05 2014 15:06 GMT
#1187
let's see what this does

##UNVOTE: Vivax
##VOTE: HaruRH
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 05 2014 15:07 GMT
#1188
How does it feel to be caught in a lie, Vivax?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 05 2014 15:07 GMT
#1189
On August 06 2014 00:05 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2014 08:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 05 2014 03:32 kushm4sta wrote:
On August 05 2014 00:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
That's a pretty bad list kush.


how do you know

I'm on it for one, and I have minor townreads on the other two.

Haru, you've mentioned you favour Obi the most for a lynch today. Why have you not been pushing him or trying to interact with him? He's here and he's your biggest scumread yet you're not doing anything.

On August 05 2014 07:30 Eden1892 wrote:
poofter town lean for posting relaxed and carefree like a townie
minor town lean tho he needs to actually do something or else he'll be on the radar by day's end

gobble i'd have to go look up specifics to give a coherent explanation but i remember his posts having a lot of clarity of direction to them. he seemed like he was playing open and like he wasn't holding anything back. just looks townie to me

I don't think that's a good tell for poof. I've seen him post in cell as scum and he was very carefree there too. I'm not sure what really sets him out as mafia.


Your meta read on poofter is the weirdest thing ever. You meta read as null if he was carefree, but town if he spammed town today. How are these 2 mutually exclusive such that a non-carefree pooft would spam town over a carefree pooft, who wouldn't and thus fall into his supposed mafia meta, which you alteady said you don't know what sets him out as mafia?

I said that carefree wasn't alignment indicative for him because he's done it as both scum and town. I've seen pooft spam that he's town 100 times in a game I've played with him, which he did as town. Someone brought up that he would never do that as scum. I'm not sure of it but I figure it's a decent heuristic. I never said that carefree or non-carefree indicates anything for poof; he's just naturally carefree.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22145 Posts
August 05 2014 15:08 GMT
#1190
Sorry marv I'm always an asshole after I wake up from a nap.

Anyway I didn't find that TehPoofter case too bad to be honest, it was like the first time I saw myself agreeing with HF in this game, maybe ever.
Catchup post and 3 hours later he posts some random stuff about marv? He couldn't do more cause he had to do stuff? meeeeeeh
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 05 2014 15:09 GMT
#1191
On August 06 2014 00:06 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2014 00:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 06 2014 00:03 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 06 2014 00:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 06 2014 00:00 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 05 2014 23:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 05 2014 23:55 kushm4sta wrote:
itt artanis sheeps/buddies marv, gangbangs haru

But I have different reasons for scumreading haru than marv does and voted him before he did. Marv showed a stronger inclination to lynch Vivax first.

But you didn't really push it before marv started to. Now that he is on it you suddenly start to question Haru.

Actually, it was after Gobble that I did.

Which was basically at the same time?

I had already indicated Haru was my top scumread, so it's not really relevant.

Yes, it is. You did indicate it earlier but you only started pushing and more importantly questioning when they started to.

I really don't see how it's alignment indicative. I went to do other things, saw that Haru came back into the thread and started pushing him as he did more scummy stuff.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 05 2014 15:09 GMT
#1192
And now I'm really gone.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
August 05 2014 15:10 GMT
#1193
Counting of votes:

Artanis[Xp] (3): gobbledydook, marvellosity, marvellosity, marvellosity, Eden1892, HaruRH, kushm4sta, Eden1892, Holyflare
Eden1892 (0): Eden1892
Vivax (0): Eden1892
Tehpoofter (1): Holyflare, goodkarma, gobbledydook
ObiWanShinobi (0): Eden1892, Holyflare, Eden1892
HaruRH (5): gobbledydook, WaveofShadow, Artanis[Xp], marvellosity, gobbledydook, Eden1892
WaveofShadow (0): ObiWanShinobi, kushm4sta, Eden1892, Eden1892, Eden1892
marvellosity (2): Artanis[Xp], Eden1892, Vivax, HaruRH, WaveofShadow, ObiWanShinobi

Not voting (2): justanothertownie, Tehpoofter


With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.
Deadline is Tuesday, Aug 05 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ).


+ Show Spoiler [Vote counter log] +

VOTE: Eden1892 voted Eden1892 (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted Eden1892 (post)
VOTE: Artanis[Xp] voted Marvellosity (marvellosity) (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 voted marvellosity (post)
VOTE: Vivax voted marvellosity (post)
VOTE: HaruRH voted marvellosity (post)
VOTE: WaveofShadow voted marvellosity (post)
VOTE: ObiWanShinobi voted Wave (WaveofShadow) (post)
VOTE: gobbledydook voted HaruRH (post)
VOTE: kushm4sta voted WoS (WaveofShadow) (post)
VOTE: kushm4sta unvoted WaveofShadow (post)
ERROR: kushm4sta voted invalid player gg (post)
VOTE: gobbledydook unvoted HaruRH (post)
VOTE: gobbledydook voted Artanis[XP] (Artanis[Xp]) (post)
VOTE: marvellosity voted Artanis (Artanis[Xp]) (post)
WARNING: marvellosity changed vote without unvote (post)
VOTE: marvellosity unvoted Artanis[Xp] (post)
VOTE: marvellosity voted Artanis[xp] (Artanis[Xp]) (post)
VOTE: marvellosity unvoted Artanis[Xp] (post)
VOTE: marvellosity voted Artanis[xp] (Artanis[Xp]) (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted marvellosity (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 voted WaveofShadow (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted WaveofShadow (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 voted Artanis[Xp] (post)
VOTE: HaruRH unvoted marvellosity (post)
VOTE: HaruRH voted Artanis [xp] (Artanis[Xp]) (post)
WARNING: kushm4sta unvoted without vote (post)
VOTE: kushm4sta voted artanis (Artanis[Xp]) (post)
VOTE: ObiWanShinobi unvoted WaveofShadow (post)
VOTE: ObiWanShinobi voted marv (marvellosity) (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted Artanis[Xp] (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 voted WaveofShadow (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted WaveofShadow (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 voted ObiWanShinobi (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted ObiWanShinobi (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 voted WaveofShadow (post)
VOTE: Holyflare voted obiwanshinobi (ObiWanShinobi) (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted WaveofShadow (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 voted ObiWanShinobi (post)
VOTE: WaveofShadow unvoted marvellosity (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted ObiWanShinobi (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 voted Artanis[Xp] (post)
VOTE: WaveofShadow voted HaruRH (post)
VOTE: Holyflare unvoted ObiWanShinobi (post)
VOTE: Holyflare voted tehpoofter (Tehpoofter) (post)
VOTE: goodkarma voted Tehpoofter (post)
VOTE: Holyflare unvoted Tehpoofter (post)
VOTE: gobbledydook unvoted Artanis[Xp] (post)
VOTE: gobbledydook voted Tehpoofter (post)
ERROR: Tehpoofter voted invalid player Gooblyzilla (post)
VOTE: Holyflare voted artanis[Xp] (Artanis[Xp]) (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted Artanis[Xp] (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 voted Vivax (post)
VOTE: Artanis[Xp] unvoted marvellosity (post)
VOTE: Artanis[Xp] voted HaruRH (post)
VOTE: marvellosity unvoted Artanis[Xp] (post)
VOTE: marvellosity voted HaruRH (post)
VOTE: gobbledydook unvoted Tehpoofter (post)
VOTE: gobbledydook voted HaruRH (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted Vivax (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 voted HaruRH (post)
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16321 Posts
August 05 2014 15:11 GMT
#1194
On August 06 2014 00:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2014 00:06 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 06 2014 00:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 06 2014 00:03 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 06 2014 00:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 06 2014 00:00 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 05 2014 23:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 05 2014 23:55 kushm4sta wrote:
itt artanis sheeps/buddies marv, gangbangs haru

But I have different reasons for scumreading haru than marv does and voted him before he did. Marv showed a stronger inclination to lynch Vivax first.

But you didn't really push it before marv started to. Now that he is on it you suddenly start to question Haru.

Actually, it was after Gobble that I did.

Which was basically at the same time?

I had already indicated Haru was my top scumread, so it's not really relevant.

Yes, it is. You did indicate it earlier but you only started pushing and more importantly questioning when they started to.

I really don't see how it's alignment indicative. I went to do other things, saw that Haru came back into the thread and started pushing him as he did more scummy stuff.

It just feels so convenient for you. Whatever, I will drop this only because Haru is scumming so hard right now.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22145 Posts
August 05 2014 15:14 GMT
#1195
Don't like the Haru wagon for some reason. I feel that's where scum is more likely to be right at this moment. Kush probably town, Holyflare never sure, Haru doesn't give me scum feels.
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
August 05 2014 15:15 GMT
#1196
Amyway I got 10 minutes to answer any questions before I head off for bed. Ama.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
August 05 2014 15:17 GMT
#1197
On August 05 2014 23:48 marvellosity wrote:
I just think Haru's read on gobble is totally disingenuous. gobbledy is the opposite of waffly in almost his whole filter and Haru picks out one post where he says he's null on someone and retracts a scumread?

Outside of this post he confidently declares Artanis mafia, same with Poofter, makes a case on Haru. gobbledy isn't the least bit indecisive and waffly. I don't understand the misrepresentation.


I did mention that I focused on the part in between his scumread on artanis (page 1) and his scumread on me (page 2).
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16321 Posts
August 05 2014 15:18 GMT
#1198
On August 06 2014 00:15 HaruRH wrote:
Amyway I got 10 minutes to answer any questions before I head off for bed. Ama.

Did you ever give an answer as to why gobble is scum for having the same scumreads you have? This is such a glaring contradiction.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22145 Posts
August 05 2014 15:20 GMT
#1199
Gobble's case on Haru looks like a scumcase.
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
August 05 2014 15:20 GMT
#1200
On August 06 2014 00:18 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2014 00:15 HaruRH wrote:
Amyway I got 10 minutes to answer any questions before I head off for bed. Ama.

Did you ever give an answer as to why gobble is scum for having the same scumreads you have? This is such a glaring contradiction.


Yes I did.

I mentioned it was a coincidence for us to have the same scumreads.

The method of getting these scumread was what I am critical about. The period of 'mehness' in between was also what I noticed the mostm
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
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