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On August 05 2014 22:53 gobbledydook wrote:A case on HaruRH:Near the beginning, I had HaruRH as scum because of his terrible logic about mafia acting more towny as usual. Then HF said that I shouldn't be so quick to scumread someone just because I disagree with them and I accepted it. The logic was terrible but it looked like he was trying to make a legit point at least. Show nested quote +On August 04 2014 18:56 HaruRH wrote:
Artanis feels scummy for buddying with someone who had suspect entrance and suspect posts. Show nested quote +On August 04 2014 19:04 HaruRH wrote:On August 04 2014 08:18 Eden1892 wrote:
I propose the following rule: If a majority of the members of the /towncircle agree to policy lynch someone, all members of the /towncircle must follow through on the policy lynch until the person who initially proposed it unvotes the target. ##Unvote
##Vote: Artanis Here he sheeps on Artanis. The post before the vote he says something really vague that isn't even necessarily correct. Then he votes Artanis without any reason other than basically other people voted too. No attempt to substantiate the vote. If he were trying to scumhunt would he not have a better reason than 'Artanis is close to someone I think is suspicious'? I thought mafia generally avoid associating with each other? The conclusion therefore, is he's just voting so he can put his vote somewhere. A while later, he posts this gem. Show nested quote +On August 05 2014 07:48 HaruRH wrote:On August 05 2014 07:10 Eden1892 wrote:
aite here's where i am
not killing ever: Eden1892
not killing today: marvellosity, Holyflare, kushm4sta, gobbledydook
don't want to kill today, but would: Tehpoofter, Vivax, HaruRH
indifferent to killing today: goodkarma, WaveofShadow, Artanis, justanothertownie, ObiWanShinobi
actively want to kill today:
the blankness in the last category is bothering me and probably why i feel scatterbrained atm, i made this list for my benefit and yours, let's work something out
there's five people in the "indifferent" category, someone help me pick one Ill do it for you Goodkarma: came out early with tons of aggression, never relented and disappeared conveniently.
Wos: bad start with stiff post, continued posting awkwardly that seemed rehearsed.
Artanis: using meta reads as a basis of his reads (I really dont agree with doing this).
Justanothertownie: I don't really feel much from him except that I don't agree with his scumreads at all.
Obiwan: being useless In this game much? I don't see him voting anything meaningful, or doing any moves that included thinking.
Overall, obi> wos> gk> artanis> jat in terms of who to lynch. Show nested quote +On August 05 2014 22:24 HaruRH wrote:
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Gobble
I didn't see him do crap with reads. All of them are wishy washy and inconclusive. No promises either.
Pooft
Throwing reads everywhere, 0 substantiation. Wolf.
Obiwan
Literally not committing to any scumreads. All his 'scumreads' are either wishy washy or they are just a throwaway read.
Artanis
Similar to gobble. This may be omgus but if you take away his 'haru scumread', he have an unreadable filter with nothing except 'this guy town' 'this post scum' etc. Also, no promised reads so I won't get to see him post actual content outside of his (desperate) read on me.
Yep, not doing crap with reads, wishy washy and inconclusive, no promises given, throwing reads everywhere, 0 substantiation, not committing to any scumreads...guess who that is. I know, it's the person flinging shit at seven people aka HaruRH.
^ This one
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On August 06 2014 00:20 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2014 00:18 justanothertownie wrote:On August 06 2014 00:15 HaruRH wrote:
Amyway I got 10 minutes to answer any questions before I head off for bed. Ama. Did you ever give an answer as to why gobble is scum for having the same scumreads you have? This is such a glaring contradiction. Yes I did. I mentioned it was a coincidence for us to have the same scumreads. The method of getting these scumread was what I am critical about. The period of 'mehness' in between was also what I noticed the mostm
IT WAS ONE POST OH MY GOD
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I will have to check again but didn't you specifically call him scum for having those reads?
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also what was wrong with the method??
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On August 05 2014 22:53 gobbledydook wrote:A case on HaruRH:Near the beginning, I had HaruRH as scum because of his terrible logic about mafia acting more towny as usual. Then HF said that I shouldn't be so quick to scumread someone just because I disagree with them and I accepted it. The logic was terrible but it looked like he was trying to make a legit point at least. Show nested quote +On August 04 2014 18:56 HaruRH wrote:
Artanis feels scummy for buddying with someone who had suspect entrance and suspect posts. Show nested quote +On August 04 2014 19:04 HaruRH wrote:On August 04 2014 08:18 Eden1892 wrote:
I propose the following rule: If a majority of the members of the /towncircle agree to policy lynch someone, all members of the /towncircle must follow through on the policy lynch until the person who initially proposed it unvotes the target. ##Unvote
##Vote: Artanis Here he sheeps on Artanis. The post before the vote he says something really vague that isn't even necessarily correct. Then he votes Artanis without any reason other than basically other people voted too. No attempt to substantiate the vote. If he were trying to scumhunt would he not have a better reason than 'Artanis is close to someone I think is suspicious'? I thought mafia generally avoid associating with each other? The conclusion therefore, is he's just voting so he can put his vote somewhere. A while later, he posts this gem. Show nested quote +On August 05 2014 07:48 HaruRH wrote:On August 05 2014 07:10 Eden1892 wrote:
aite here's where i am
not killing ever: Eden1892
not killing today: marvellosity, Holyflare, kushm4sta, gobbledydook
don't want to kill today, but would: Tehpoofter, Vivax, HaruRH
indifferent to killing today: goodkarma, WaveofShadow, Artanis, justanothertownie, ObiWanShinobi
actively want to kill today:
the blankness in the last category is bothering me and probably why i feel scatterbrained atm, i made this list for my benefit and yours, let's work something out
there's five people in the "indifferent" category, someone help me pick one Ill do it for you Goodkarma: came out early with tons of aggression, never relented and disappeared conveniently.
Wos: bad start with stiff post, continued posting awkwardly that seemed rehearsed.
Artanis: using meta reads as a basis of his reads (I really dont agree with doing this).
Justanothertownie: I don't really feel much from him except that I don't agree with his scumreads at all.
Obiwan: being useless In this game much? I don't see him voting anything meaningful, or doing any moves that included thinking.
Overall, obi> wos> gk> artanis> jat in terms of who to lynch. Show nested quote +On August 05 2014 22:24 HaruRH wrote:
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Scumville
Gobble
I didn't see him do crap with reads. All of them are wishy washy and inconclusive. No promises either.
Pooft
Throwing reads everywhere, 0 substantiation. Wolf.
Obiwan
Literally not committing to any scumreads. All his 'scumreads' are either wishy washy or they are just a throwaway read.
Artanis
Similar to gobble. This may be omgus but if you take away his 'haru scumread', he have an unreadable filter with nothing except 'this guy town' 'this post scum' etc. Also, no promised reads so I won't get to see him post actual content outside of his (desperate) read on me.
Yep, not doing crap with reads, wishy washy and inconclusive, no promises given, throwing reads everywhere, 0 substantiation, not committing to any scumreads...guess who that is. I know, it's the person flinging shit at seven people aka HaruRH.
I also realised that the points artanis brought out to defend himself can easily be used to defend me against gobble's scumread on me.
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On August 06 2014 00:21 marvellosity wrote:
also what was wrong with the method??
Didn't you notice his play is exactly like artanis in the middle?
He was waiting for popular opinion before changing his reads accordingly, while probing about what this popular opinion would do against other's opinion on the same matter.
I'm also glad that my list post brought about 6 pages worth of discussion. More stuff to filterdive.
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On August 05 2014 22:33 HaruRH wrote:
He is also voting on lurkers. From artanis the non-contributer to pooft the lurking read thrower. Sooner or later when pooft comes on, he will give some lame reads to vote on obi. Then onto the next lurker. No legit proper scumread.
This is what I dislike the most. You are calling him scum for scumreading your scumreads. Scumreadception.
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On August 06 2014 00:26 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2014 22:33 HaruRH wrote:
He is also voting on lurkers. From artanis the non-contributer to pooft the lurking read thrower. Sooner or later when pooft comes on, he will give some lame reads to vote on obi. Then onto the next lurker. No legit proper scumread. This is what I dislike the most. You are calling him scum for scumreading your scumreads. Scumreadception.
but it's the method, don't you see?
No?
Me neither.
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On August 06 2014 00:26 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2014 22:33 HaruRH wrote:
He is also voting on lurkers. From artanis the non-contributer to pooft the lurking read thrower. Sooner or later when pooft comes on, he will give some lame reads to vote on obi. Then onto the next lurker. No legit proper scumread. This is what I dislike the most. You are calling him scum for scumreading your scumreads. Scumreadception.
I dont like how he hopped from artanis to pooft the moment he saw stuff from artanis. Doesn't feel like a pressure vote either. More like moving away from the responsibility of actually having to converse with his own scumread.
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On August 06 2014 00:27 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2014 00:26 justanothertownie wrote:On August 05 2014 22:33 HaruRH wrote:
He is also voting on lurkers. From artanis the non-contributer to pooft the lurking read thrower. Sooner or later when pooft comes on, he will give some lame reads to vote on obi. Then onto the next lurker. No legit proper scumread. This is what I dislike the most. You are calling him scum for scumreading your scumreads. Scumreadception. but it's the method, don't you see? No? Me neither.
'Yea artanis is scum'
'No artanis gave stuff, so he isnt scum anymore. Its.... poofter'.
I dont like this transition.
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On August 06 2014 00:27 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2014 00:26 justanothertownie wrote:On August 05 2014 22:33 HaruRH wrote:
He is also voting on lurkers. From artanis the non-contributer to pooft the lurking read thrower. Sooner or later when pooft comes on, he will give some lame reads to vote on obi. Then onto the next lurker. No legit proper scumread. This is what I dislike the most. You are calling him scum for scumreading your scumreads. Scumreadception. I dont like how he hopped from artanis to pooft the moment he saw stuff from artanis. Doesn't feel like a pressure vote either. More like moving away from the responsibility of actually having to converse with his own scumread.
But it's precisely what you're advocating - if someone produces content then that's good, if they don;t produce concent then you are going to scumread them
so it makes perfect sense when artanis produces content that gobbledy would think to unvote him, given his case on him to begin with was that he had a 3 page filter with no content........
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nothing you say makes any sense at all, ever.
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It's actually I thought I had too, Gobble was very eager to let off of Artanis. Usually you don't just think "he has no content", you think "he has no content and that makes him scummy", which doesn't immediately lead you let off your target once he posts it.
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On August 06 2014 00:30 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2014 00:27 HaruRH wrote:On August 06 2014 00:26 justanothertownie wrote:On August 05 2014 22:33 HaruRH wrote:
He is also voting on lurkers. From artanis the non-contributer to pooft the lurking read thrower. Sooner or later when pooft comes on, he will give some lame reads to vote on obi. Then onto the next lurker. No legit proper scumread. This is what I dislike the most. You are calling him scum for scumreading your scumreads. Scumreadception. I dont like how he hopped from artanis to pooft the moment he saw stuff from artanis. Doesn't feel like a pressure vote either. More like moving away from the responsibility of actually having to converse with his own scumread. But it's precisely what you're advocating - if someone produces content then that's good, if they don;t produce concent then you are going to scumread them so it makes perfect sense when artanis produces content that gobbledy would think to unvote him, given his case on him to begin with was that he had a 3 page filter with no content........ ............ ................................................ nothing you say makes any sense at all, ever.
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I'm blind. I did not see that until you pointed it out.
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Buuuuuut my point on artanis still stands. He have weird reads.
'Reason no.100 why haru dont do list posts early on because he usually make these lame ass mistakes that he only find out later or until someone shows it to him explicitly'
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It must have been extraordinary content, which I don't think it was. I remember some post succession of like 4-5 posts, middle-sized, don't remember what he said in them but it was serious, after me and Eden asked for unlurk, not saying that he unlurked cause of us though.
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On August 06 2014 00:33 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2014 00:30 marvellosity wrote:On August 06 2014 00:27 HaruRH wrote:On August 06 2014 00:26 justanothertownie wrote:On August 05 2014 22:33 HaruRH wrote:
He is also voting on lurkers. From artanis the non-contributer to pooft the lurking read thrower. Sooner or later when pooft comes on, he will give some lame reads to vote on obi. Then onto the next lurker. No legit proper scumread. This is what I dislike the most. You are calling him scum for scumreading your scumreads. Scumreadception. I dont like how he hopped from artanis to pooft the moment he saw stuff from artanis. Doesn't feel like a pressure vote either. More like moving away from the responsibility of actually having to converse with his own scumread. But it's precisely what you're advocating - if someone produces content then that's good, if they don;t produce concent then you are going to scumread them so it makes perfect sense when artanis produces content that gobbledy would think to unvote him, given his case on him to begin with was that he had a 3 page filter with no content........ ............ ................................................ nothing you say makes any sense at all, ever. ............... I'm blind. I did not see that until you pointed it out. .......................... Buuuuuut my point on artanis still stands. He have weird reads. 'Reason no.100 why haru dont do list posts early on because he usually make these lame ass mistakes that he only find out later or until someone shows it to him explicitly'
So are you retracting on gobbledy? Would you rather kill Scumtanis?
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But still, the transition was weird. I wouldnt just write off pooft as town when he gives something of content right away. I would want to probe in and find out more.
It is logical that gobble townread artanis, I admit. But the speed of it doesn't click.
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On August 06 2014 00:34 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2014 00:33 HaruRH wrote:On August 06 2014 00:30 marvellosity wrote:On August 06 2014 00:27 HaruRH wrote:On August 06 2014 00:26 justanothertownie wrote:On August 05 2014 22:33 HaruRH wrote:
He is also voting on lurkers. From artanis the non-contributer to pooft the lurking read thrower. Sooner or later when pooft comes on, he will give some lame reads to vote on obi. Then onto the next lurker. No legit proper scumread. This is what I dislike the most. You are calling him scum for scumreading your scumreads. Scumreadception. I dont like how he hopped from artanis to pooft the moment he saw stuff from artanis. Doesn't feel like a pressure vote either. More like moving away from the responsibility of actually having to converse with his own scumread. But it's precisely what you're advocating - if someone produces content then that's good, if they don;t produce concent then you are going to scumread them so it makes perfect sense when artanis produces content that gobbledy would think to unvote him, given his case on him to begin with was that he had a 3 page filter with no content........ ............ ................................................ nothing you say makes any sense at all, ever. ............... I'm blind. I did not see that until you pointed it out. .......................... Buuuuuut my point on artanis still stands. He have weird reads. 'Reason no.100 why haru dont do list posts early on because he usually make these lame ass mistakes that he only find out later or until someone shows it to him explicitly' So are you retracting on gobbledy? Would you rather kill Scumtanis?
Im retracting halfly on gobble due to how I still have beef with his eagerness to switch, like what vivax pointed out.
Scumtanis still have weird meta reads that he isn't explaining. Mostly telling me why he thought that way, not telling me what was the purpose.
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Haru u repeatin my posts, bad boy?
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On August 06 2014 00:37 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2014 00:34 marvellosity wrote:On August 06 2014 00:33 HaruRH wrote:On August 06 2014 00:30 marvellosity wrote:On August 06 2014 00:27 HaruRH wrote:On August 06 2014 00:26 justanothertownie wrote:On August 05 2014 22:33 HaruRH wrote:
He is also voting on lurkers. From artanis the non-contributer to pooft the lurking read thrower. Sooner or later when pooft comes on, he will give some lame reads to vote on obi. Then onto the next lurker. No legit proper scumread. This is what I dislike the most. You are calling him scum for scumreading your scumreads. Scumreadception. I dont like how he hopped from artanis to pooft the moment he saw stuff from artanis. Doesn't feel like a pressure vote either. More like moving away from the responsibility of actually having to converse with his own scumread. But it's precisely what you're advocating - if someone produces content then that's good, if they don;t produce concent then you are going to scumread them so it makes perfect sense when artanis produces content that gobbledy would think to unvote him, given his case on him to begin with was that he had a 3 page filter with no content........ ............ ................................................ nothing you say makes any sense at all, ever. ............... I'm blind. I did not see that until you pointed it out. .......................... Buuuuuut my point on artanis still stands. He have weird reads. 'Reason no.100 why haru dont do list posts early on because he usually make these lame ass mistakes that he only find out later or until someone shows it to him explicitly' So are you retracting on gobbledy? Would you rather kill Scumtanis? Im retracting halfly on gobble due to how I still have beef with his eagerness to switch, like what vivax pointed out. Scumtanis still have weird meta reads that he isn't explaining. Mostly telling me why he thought that way, not telling me what was the purpose.
Except at first he wasn't happy with Artanis' posts:
On August 04 2014 21:12 gobbledydook wrote:
Ten one-line useless posts from Artanis later...
nope, not convinced
only later was he happier
On August 05 2014 13:12 gobbledydook wrote:
Artanis finally showed up and did something useful. Poofter hasn't. All he really has done is scumread on the timing of marv's vote and then say he can't read him anyway. It's such a useless, trivial point that occupies lots of space.
##vote: tehpoofter
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On August 06 2014 00:37 Vivax wrote:
Haru u repeatin my posts, bad boy?
... I didnt see your posts lol. I was busy replying to marv.
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