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On August 07 2014 00:07 kushm4sta wrote:
"quit mafia forever if im wrong" convinced
Kush, how about obi?
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On August 07 2014 08:03 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2014 08:00 kushm4sta wrote:On August 05 2014 07:48 HaruRH wrote:On August 05 2014 07:10 Eden1892 wrote:
aite here's where i am
not killing ever: Eden1892
not killing today: marvellosity, Holyflare, kushm4sta, gobbledydook
don't want to kill today, but would: Tehpoofter, Vivax, HaruRH
indifferent to killing today: goodkarma, WaveofShadow, Artanis, justanothertownie, ObiWanShinobi
actively want to kill today:
the blankness in the last category is bothering me and probably why i feel scatterbrained atm, i made this list for my benefit and yours, let's work something out
there's five people in the "indifferent" category, someone help me pick one Ill do it for you
Goodkarma: came out early with tons of aggression, never relented and disappeared conveniently. Wos: bad start with stiff post, continued posting awkwardly that seemed rehearsed. Artanis: using meta reads as a basis of his reads (I really dont agree with doing this). Justanothertownie: I don't really feel much from him except that I don't agree with his scumreads at all. Obiwan: being useless In this game much? I don't see him voting anything meaningful, or doing any moves that included thinking. Overall, obi> wos> gk> artanis> jat in terms of who to lynch. joke is the wrong word but basically the "ill do it for you" part. Why would haru be more scummy if he didn't know Artanis was joking? Because i made the comment before and we had a whole talk how artanis did it pregame and if he was reading the thread to make the scum reads haru should have seen it and known
what did artanis do pregame?
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On August 07 2014 20:59 Eden1892 wrote:
i'm clicking random pages to catch up on
i still have a V. Bad Feeling about holyflare and want to kill him, because i still think my whole "i can't figure out who the fuck is scum so i'm probably being played by a godmode player" argument holds water and i'm positive marv is town. plus the mafia passed on shooting standard n1 kills for fuckin kush which means kush was obviously going balls-out this game on scum
BUT
there's another valid reason for not being able to figure a game out, and it's when scum aren't posting at all... this only happens when quite a few townies aren't being memorable and guess what? that's true this game too!
in other words half of you are scum and i want to kill all of you
CALLED IT
REMEMBER MY '1 OF THE TOP TOWNIES ARE SCUM' ARGUMENT
FUCK ALL THE PEOPLE WHO SCUMREAD ME FOR DOING IT, BUT NOW SCUMREAD HF
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FUCK ALL THE PEOPLE WHO SCUMREAD ME FOR DOING IT, BUT NOW SCUMREAD HF
I just want to emphasize this point
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On August 07 2014 21:13 Holyflare wrote:
Just because you said something generic doesn't vindicate that you're right. Especially not to this degree. That's fucking scummy
no. That wasn't generic if people scurmead me for saying that I was sure 1/3 top 3 townies were scum.
And now people turn around and scumread 1/3 of the top 3 townies.
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On August 04 2014 14:13 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2014 14:09 gobbledydook wrote:On August 04 2014 13:25 HaruRH wrote:On August 04 2014 13:08 goodkarma wrote:On August 04 2014 13:01 HaruRH wrote:On August 04 2014 12:58 goodkarma wrote:On August 04 2014 12:39 HaruRH wrote:
I would say that in this game where scum potentially need 4+ mislynches to win the game, the only logical way is to act super townie and try to surf into later days off mislynches.
I'm willing to put my head on the table that there's a scum amongst hf/pooft/gk who are trying so hard to gain free towncreds ™ issued only by the harumint co. Last I checked this is the normalest of normal games. Why would scum have to play anything other than "standard?" Idk, if I was scum I would definitely sit back and think of how to play this game. So I would wanna check how these people who never posted yet on how they open up. Too stiff = skummer. So has anyone in the thread met this criterion of yours yet? Didn't you say Wave was stiff??? On August 04 2014 12:39 HaruRH wrote:
I would say that in this game where scum potentially need 4+ mislynches to win the game, the only logical way is to act super townie and try to surf into later days off mislynches.
I'm willing to put my head on the table that there's a scum amongst hf/pooft/gk who are trying so hard to gain free towncreds ™ issued only by the harumint co. Assuming you weren't just pulling names out of a hat, is there a particular reason for listing these three? You got a OMGUS they're attacking me therefore they're scum kinda thing going, or is there more to it than that? Care to elaborate? Note: I have literally 0 experience with purely normal games, so I don't know what to expect other than scum playing out of their minds. Which is what I'll focus on d1. Yes, that is why I brought out the stiff post argument. I want to see if this trend continues since it matches up with the 'scum playing out of their mind' read I have. Finding and noting the top towns currently also helps me formulate how scum could possibly act. It's better (in my opinion) to hide as top towns, so I won't be surprised if any of these 3 who are leading discussion/looking towny now would be scum. Your logic baffles me. You're saying that because scum are so tryhard, they are more town than real town and so the towniest people are scum. You also allege that 'top towns should hide' which is astounding. The only power town has is their voice and vote, why would a *town* want to hide? What about this simpler, probably correct argument: 'hf/pooft/gk are town because they are actively leading discussion and finding out who is scum and who is town. Scum are among the lurkers who don't want to get noticed'. uh I meant scum are so tryhard, I would expect at least 1 of them to be hidden in the top town now so that you all would townread them. Just some skepticism from me. I think this is more correct: Hf/pooft/gk are probably town because they're leading discussion and finding out who is town and who is scum. Scum are also amongst the lurkers who don't want to get noticed.
HF/pooft/gk were my initial 'top townies' because of how much they contributed on early d1.
On August 04 2014 14:09 gobbledydook wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2014 13:25 HaruRH wrote:On August 04 2014 13:08 goodkarma wrote:On August 04 2014 13:01 HaruRH wrote:On August 04 2014 12:58 goodkarma wrote:On August 04 2014 12:39 HaruRH wrote:
I would say that in this game where scum potentially need 4+ mislynches to win the game, the only logical way is to act super townie and try to surf into later days off mislynches.
I'm willing to put my head on the table that there's a scum amongst hf/pooft/gk who are trying so hard to gain free towncreds ™ issued only by the harumint co. Last I checked this is the normalest of normal games. Why would scum have to play anything other than "standard?" Idk, if I was scum I would definitely sit back and think of how to play this game. So I would wanna check how these people who never posted yet on how they open up. Too stiff = skummer. So has anyone in the thread met this criterion of yours yet? Didn't you say Wave was stiff??? On August 04 2014 12:39 HaruRH wrote:
I would say that in this game where scum potentially need 4+ mislynches to win the game, the only logical way is to act super townie and try to surf into later days off mislynches.
I'm willing to put my head on the table that there's a scum amongst hf/pooft/gk who are trying so hard to gain free towncreds ™ issued only by the harumint co. Assuming you weren't just pulling names out of a hat, is there a particular reason for listing these three? You got a OMGUS they're attacking me therefore they're scum kinda thing going, or is there more to it than that? Care to elaborate? Note: I have literally 0 experience with purely normal games, so I don't know what to expect other than scum playing out of their minds. Which is what I'll focus on d1. Yes, that is why I brought out the stiff post argument. I want to see if this trend continues since it matches up with the 'scum playing out of their mind' read I have. Finding and noting the top towns currently also helps me formulate how scum could possibly act. It's better (in my opinion) to hide as top towns, so I won't be surprised if any of these 3 who are leading discussion/looking towny now would be scum. Your logic baffles me. You're saying that because scum are so tryhard, they are more town than real town and so the towniest people are scum. You also allege that 'top towns should hide' which is astounding. The only power town has is their voice and vote, why would a *town* want to hide? What about this simpler, probably correct argument: 'hf/pooft/gk are town because they are actively leading discussion and finding out who is scum and who is town. Scum are among the lurkers who don't want to get noticed'.
Gobble effectively shot down my argument.
On August 04 2014 14:04 goodkarma wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2014 13:52 HaruRH wrote:On August 04 2014 13:40 goodkarma wrote:On August 04 2014 13:25 HaruRH wrote:On August 04 2014 13:08 goodkarma wrote:On August 04 2014 13:01 HaruRH wrote:On August 04 2014 12:58 goodkarma wrote:On August 04 2014 12:39 HaruRH wrote:
I would say that in this game where scum potentially need 4+ mislynches to win the game, the only logical way is to act super townie and try to surf into later days off mislynches.
I'm willing to put my head on the table that there's a scum amongst hf/pooft/gk who are trying so hard to gain free towncreds ™ issued only by the harumint co. Last I checked this is the normalest of normal games. Why would scum have to play anything other than "standard?" Idk, if I was scum I would definitely sit back and think of how to play this game. So I would wanna check how these people who never posted yet on how they open up. Too stiff = skummer. So has anyone in the thread met this criterion of yours yet? Didn't you say Wave was stiff??? On August 04 2014 12:39 HaruRH wrote:
I would say that in this game where scum potentially need 4+ mislynches to win the game, the only logical way is to act super townie and try to surf into later days off mislynches.
I'm willing to put my head on the table that there's a scum amongst hf/pooft/gk who are trying so hard to gain free towncreds ™ issued only by the harumint co. Assuming you weren't just pulling names out of a hat, is there a particular reason for listing these three? You got a OMGUS they're attacking me therefore they're scum kinda thing going, or is there more to it than that? Care to elaborate? Note: I have literally 0 experience with purely normal games, so I don't know what to expect other than scum playing out of their minds. Which is what I'll focus on d1. Yes, that is why I brought out the stiff post argument. I want to see if this trend continues since it matches up with the 'scum playing out of their mind' read I have. Finding and noting the top towns currently also helps me formulate how scum could possibly act. It's better (in my opinion) to hide as top towns, so I won't be surprised if any of these 3 who are leading discussion/looking towny now would be scum. So the people you believe are looking towny are scum? Does this mean the afk scummy lurkers are all town??? You're still not answering my question. With all your ideas of how to find scum, you must have a prime suspect of some kind in mind? Someone you're just dying to learn more about to assert with certainty if he/she's truly scum? Lack of experience is no excuse. It's not like themed games (excluding the caller ones) are so massively different that your experience there can't be applied here. On top of that, you've been in normal games. So why are you using this excuse in the first place? You still sound angsty. What? I said, I'm waiting to see if the lurkers are posting stiffly so that I can group them up with wave. No. 1 scum in 3 people = all others are town? How did you even come to this conclusion? I still don't have a prime suspect. You probably have not played with me before but I don't do reads d1 (at least not the first half) until everyone turns up and I get to inspect and see how they are linked. Call it bad or w/e, this is how I roll. Lack of experience isn't an excuse, but expectations will be my worry. I am expecting 1 out of 3 of these boogers to be skum and the remaining few skums to be in the rest. So what you mean to say is you think most of your "towny-looking" people reads are town? Makes more sense than what you said before, though it's still a bit much for me to wrap my head around. Can you explain to me why you'd say you'd never been in normal games when I see World Cup Mini and at least one newbie game is in your played games list?
GK showed that he didn't really know what I meant, so hes forgiven.
BUTTT looks like I overestimated the response to my 3town thingy. But gobble again. Ha.
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On August 07 2014 13:59 gobbledydook wrote:
I just read the holyflare/vivax fiasco that happened around deadline and the conclusion is WTF is going on.
So here comes vivax, he's gone all day since at the beginning when haru was making that +1/-1 posts. So naturally he's still thinking of that, and then holyflare hard scumreads him for him attacking everyone on haru at that point but not actually commenting on the haru argument. From what I read vivax had already established his haru townread and since he thinks scum are mislynching him he is trying to find out who's scum in his enemies. For some god knows reason aka 'being a dick' he gets EOD wagoned, and then the recrimination flies everywhere, eden and kush who didn't join the EOD wagon incriminate him for instigating the lynch...
This is a complete disaster. I don't know what to take from this. I don't even think all this wagon-starting and recrimination is indicative of alignment at all, there's way too much bad in there that anyone, town or mafia likewise, could pick holes in them.
I don't know if HF is scum or town, he's posted lots of strong reads (but a scum HF is perfectly capable of doing that as well as town I assume), but he's also caused a huge ruckus over vivax (that could be scum muddying the waters or town just not wanting to admit he was wrong). Can someone guide me through that ten pages of shit?
This post is the point I am making.
He brushed my suspicion of you being scum aside, but he himself came up and suspect you. I just feel like my pride was hurt.
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Wow this thread exploded while I was asleep
I read through the thread and couldn't decide on either obi or sheep marv on onegu.
I guess I'll sheep marv for finally realising I'm town.
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On August 06 2014 20:53 HaruRH wrote:Things got really interesting after I was at 7 votes: Show nested quote +On August 06 2014 06:44 LoneMeow wrote:Counting of votes:Artanis[Xp] (1): gobbledydook, marvellosity, marvellosity, marvellosity, Eden1892, HaruRH, kushm4sta, Eden1892, Holyflaregobbledydook (2): Vivax, Eden1892, Tehpoofter, kushm4sta Eden1892 (0): Eden1892Vivax (2): Eden1892, marvellosity, goodkarma, Holyflare Tehpoofter (0): Holyflare, goodkarma, gobbledydookObiWanShinobi (0): Eden1892, Holyflare, Eden1892, Eden1892HaruRH (7): gobbledydook, WaveofShadow, Artanis[Xp], marvellosity, gobbledydook, Eden1892, justanothertownie, Eden1892, marvellosity, Eden1892, Tehpoofter WaveofShadow (0): ObiWanShinobi, kushm4sta, Eden1892, Eden1892, Eden1892marvellosity (0): Artanis[Xp], Eden1892, Vivax, HaruRH, WaveofShadow, ObiWanShinobiNot voting (1): ObiWanShinobi With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.
Deadline is Tuesday, Aug 05 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ).+ Show Spoiler [Vote counter log] +
deleted because its too big yo
during this time, I jumped onto gobble, who was (in my opinion) gaining traction to be the next lynch. All it needed was a few more votes. Show nested quote +On August 06 2014 07:55 iamperfection wrote:Counting of votes:Artanis[Xp] (0): gobbledydook, marvellosity, marvellosity, marvellosity, Eden1892, HaruRH, kushm4sta, Eden1892, Holyflaregobbledydook (4): Vivax, Eden1892, Tehpoofter, kushm4sta, ObiWanShinobi, HaruRH Eden1892 (0): Eden1892Vivax (5): Eden1892, marvellosity, goodkarma, Holyflare, marvellosity, justanothertownie, Artanis Tehpoofter (0): Holyflare, goodkarma, gobbledydookObiWanShinobi (0): Eden1892, Holyflare, Eden1892, Eden1892HaruRH (4): gobbledydook, WaveofShadow, Artanis[Xp], marvellosity, gobbledydook, Eden1892, justanothertownie, Eden1892, marvellosity, Eden1892, Tehpoofter WaveofShadow (0): ObiWanShinobi, kushm4sta, Eden1892, Eden1892, Eden1892marvellosity (0): Artanis[Xp], Eden1892, Vivax, HaruRH, WaveofShadow, ObiWanShinobiNot voting (0): With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.
Deadline is Tuesday, Aug 05 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ).+ Show Spoiler [Vote counter log] +
still too big. stop opening spoiler quotes you lashwhole
At this point, Artanis and JAT followed marv to lynch vivax instead. They had already shown their intent to jump back to me if this fails. I have also joined in, making it 6 votes. Show nested quote +On August 06 2014 07:06 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 06 2014 07:01 justanothertownie wrote:On August 06 2014 07:00 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Well my vote doesn't matter anymore, and I don't even feel like this is a great lynch. Do you have a better one? I feel like gd would better. I took a look at what kush was saying and saw merit to it and how GD operates as scum. I feel like this Haru lynch is just us lynching Haru for being Haru. I know he said some idiotic things but idk, it feels like he's playing his towngame like he always does. Obi have also shown that he doesn't want to vote me. So this following quote doesn't follow his ideals: Show nested quote +On August 06 2014 07:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm not flipping. No more flipping for me.
We need to pick between Haru/GD and I refuse to consider Vivax until after lynch. Seriously, bandwagon flips are 100% guaranteed to kill town so we need to stop this switch right goddamn now. Show nested quote +On August 06 2014 12:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 06 2014 12:51 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 06 2014 06:00 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Yeah I don't really want to waste time doing that right now. I'll do it after lynch.
I need a minute to think. Cav, what was this in reference to? Also, you do a lot of complaining around lynch time. On August 06 2014 06:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 06 2014 06:11 Holyflare wrote:
Really vivax is looking a lot like the vivax from when i smurfed and he was defending someone that others thought was scummy. He really didn't comment on haru at all and still attacks haru's aggressors instead. He is also stuck in his time warp of lies making reads on things THAT DON'T EXIST At this point it's borderline impossible for Vivax to even be lynched, so you should probably decide between gd and haru instead. I'm kind of leaning towards gd at this point but I'm not sure. On August 06 2014 06:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I remember Haru had me as scum for similar reasons in Titanic.
Like I know his day 1 shit is incredibly asinine sometimes and it's the only thing stopping me from hammering him right now. On August 06 2014 07:00 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Well my vote doesn't matter anymore, and I don't even feel like this is a great lynch. On August 06 2014 07:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 06 2014 07:13 Holyflare wrote:
I'm not at a computer to make a case and we definitely can't get 7 but I'm feeling really fucking paranoid of haru lynch As am I. I just looked back over GD's filter and I'm back to not remembering why I scumread him. I think today is just a miss in general. You know who complains about lynch targets without ever offering a proper opinion or direction? Marv was asking me to filter dive Vivax, and I was like, "nah, the lynch should be between these two people and Vivax isn't getting lynched today." And then he got lynched. Also, I offered some direction during lynch: I'm not flipping. No more flipping for me.
We need to pick between Haru/GD and I refuse to consider Vivax until after lynch. Seriously, bandwagon flips are 100% guaranteed to kill town so we need to stop this switch right goddamn now. Just because I had problems picking between the first two targets doesn't mean I didn't have direction. I just couldn't make up my mind, and then town went and just fucking flipped because they thought Vivax was being an asshole. Neither does this from obi follows his original stance of only wanting to lynch into me/gobble. Also, it is apparent that they would come back to my wagon when they detect that the vivax wagon would fail. So why would obi, whose stance is to not vote me, decide to limit the wagon on me/gd, insisting on not changing wagons, then decide to change to vivax after all ( even though there was no risk of no-lynch since I am going to die anyway), then rage about town being bad for lynching vivax? Show nested quote +On August 06 2014 13:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Because I was certain that a mass voteswitch would be unfeasible.
Apparently it actually happened and he died. I warned everyone not to but I couldn't override anything. Blegh. This explanation does nothing.
Obi still have not addressed this, nor a ton of stuff from others.
he is still afking through the game.
he still dont find anything wrong with doing these.
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On August 09 2014 15:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +I honestly don't know if that proves anything and sounds really convoluted but I look forward to your research. Yeah, I know. I'm running out of ideas for lynch targets, so if you have any better ideas I'd be more than happy to hear them.
This dude have been advocating a lynch on me ever since the game started. He's deeper into the tunnel than hf.
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On August 10 2014 11:04 gobbledydook wrote:
I think poofter's a great lynch, I don't recall him doing anything recently it's a marvel that he isn't already lynched.
I know my filter's short but I don't like spam posting everything that comes up in my mind. I'm also not going to martyr like I did yesterday because we can't afford another mislynch.
My proposed scumteam is poofter obi haru. Obi's been pretty devoid of content in this game, when I played him in Noir Mini, he was capable of producing good, detailed reads as town. So I think the fact that he hasn't posted anything that made me think 'hm thats good', points to him being scum. Poofter is a worse offender and I've already pointed out before how his play fits his mafia meta more than his town meta, see my filter for details. Haru has amazingly posted 1 page of non-committal stuff in three (!) days. He was posting a lot when he was up for lynch day 1, and since the pressure dissipated, he hasn't found a reason to keep posting, aka he's a mafia only posting because he has to.
What the fuck. Gobble is either stupid or he did not open his eyes properly.
1) I like playing scum than playing town. 10000% more. Town is such a boring snoozefest. I like scum more. I wished I rilled scum instead of this boring vanilla town.
2) I did not have time this week because 1) my newbie game was about to end 2) its our national day so I don't see a reason to not go out and party.
3) there are way more people wwithless than 1 pages of filter. Find them and open your eyes
So I challenge you now to create a case on me. Instead of trying to 'throw shit in my direction and see if it sticks'
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On August 10 2014 13:30 WaveofShadow wrote:
HF I would like an explanation at some point as to why anyone should be voting Poofter over Haru today, simply put. You have found both of them scummy, so ultimately this must mean you find Poofter scummier in some way. What makes this so?
WTF I WANT AN EXPLANATION WHY I AM SCUM RIGHT NOW OR YOU KIDS HAVE 0 RIGHTS TO ASSOCIATE 'SCUM' WITH 'HARU'
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On August 10 2014 11:04 gobbledydook wrote:
I think poofter's a great lynch, I don't recall him doing anything recently it's a marvel that he isn't already lynched.
I know my filter's short but I don't like spam posting everything that comes up in my mind. I'm also not going to martyr like I did yesterday because we can't afford another mislynch.
My proposed scumteam is poofter obi haru. Obi's been pretty devoid of content in this game, when I played him in Noir Mini, he was capable of producing good, detailed reads as town. So I think the fact that he hasn't posted anything that made me think 'hm thats good', points to him being scum. Poofter is a worse offender and I've already pointed out before how his play fits his mafia meta more than his town meta, see my filter for details. Haru has amazingly posted 1 page of non-committal stuff in three (!) days. He was posting a lot when he was up for lynch day 1, and since the pressure dissipated, he hasn't found a reason to keep posting, aka he's a mafia only posting because he has to.
Btw, gobble have not been mentioning me for the past 3 days. Suddenly, he scumread me for being not so active. This is REALLLLLY BAD (ALSO BAD REASONING), so either you're a donkey town or you're scum. I would lean with scum. Also I omgused because I'm pissed.
##Vote: gobble
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When I get back to my computer in a few hours, scum is going to get it. I am going to decimate them so hard, oh boy. Put on your seatbelts, gobble/wave, for I shall dive you guys so deep, even marina trench is shallow. Oh boy.
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On August 10 2014 15:15 gobbledydook wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2014 14:16 HaruRH wrote:On August 10 2014 11:04 gobbledydook wrote:
I think poofter's a great lynch, I don't recall him doing anything recently it's a marvel that he isn't already lynched.
I know my filter's short but I don't like spam posting everything that comes up in my mind. I'm also not going to martyr like I did yesterday because we can't afford another mislynch.
My proposed scumteam is poofter obi haru. Obi's been pretty devoid of content in this game, when I played him in Noir Mini, he was capable of producing good, detailed reads as town. So I think the fact that he hasn't posted anything that made me think 'hm thats good', points to him being scum. Poofter is a worse offender and I've already pointed out before how his play fits his mafia meta more than his town meta, see my filter for details. Haru has amazingly posted 1 page of non-committal stuff in three (!) days. He was posting a lot when he was up for lynch day 1, and since the pressure dissipated, he hasn't found a reason to keep posting, aka he's a mafia only posting because he has to. Btw, gobble have not been mentioning me for the past 3 days. Suddenly, he scumread me for being not so active. This is REALLLLLY BAD (ALSO BAD REASONING), so either you're a donkey town or you're scum. I would lean with scum. Also I omgused because I'm pissed. ##Vote: gobble you omgused because you're scum give it up
hey, I thought we made it clear that you can't associate scum with haru until you post a case
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Not this case, dis is a briefcase
or would I say, its like your 'case', its too brief
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On August 10 2014 16:20 Eden1892 wrote:
Zzzzzzzzžźż
Haru why you mad tho. As a neutral observer it seems a little sudden? Not like FAKE sudden just "whoa what had happen" sudden
Wave isn't lynch today
Pent up anger from 3 whole days (3 game days, or 7 rl days) of people trying to throw shit my way to see if it sticks. And the same old crappy excuse used to put me in their list.
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RIGHT I AM ON MY COMP NOW AND SCUM SHOULD CONCEDE BEFORE I PICK OUT 3 NAMES
LETS START WITH GOBBLE
On August 06 2014 16:35 gobbledydook wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2014 14:54 Eden1892 wrote:
OK so I think the Vivax lynch was dumb but town-driven. Here's why.
1. Either we had a mafia wagon out of Haru or gobble on d1, or we didn't.
2. If we had a mafia wagon on d1, that strongly implies to me, from past experience, that the mafia have very weak thread presence. It's not difficult at all to deflect a lynch onto a townie on the first day, before anyone has flipped.
3. If the mafia have a very weak thread presence, then it is significantly unlikely that the Vivax wagon, which was generated very rapidly and effectively on very short notice, is mafia-driven, because if the mafia had the thread presence to generate that wagon that quickly, they would never have had a teammate up for a lynch in the first place.
4. If the Vivax wagon is not mafia-driven, then it is town-driven.
5. If we didn't have a mafia wagon on d1, that strongly implies to me, from past experience and analysis of incentives, that the mafia wouldn't have generated a third wagon. Generating a wagon is a risky venture for mafia because they have to fabricate a case and be public about pushing it, which puts them in the spotlight and forces them to work hard to look townie. Furthermore if they already have two town wagons set up, they're in an ideal spot. Not only do they not stand to gain anything from generating another wagon, they might accidentally cause a shakeup in some of the townies' thought processes with the sudden movement that causes the mafia to lose control of the situation. Mafia very strongly favor a static, not dynamic, game state.
6. If the mafia wouldn't have generated a third wagon (the Vivax wagon), then the Vivax wagon must be town-driven.
7. Regardless of whether or not the Haru and/or gobble wagons are town or mafia, the Vivax wagon is town-driven.
8. Therefore, the Vivax wagon is town-driven.
We need to be looking at people who were hesitant to jump on the Vivax wagon or change anything up. People who jumped on the wagon late in the turn, or people who were around during the last hour or so but didn't move their vote or acknowledge the shift much, are more likely to be mafia than those who got on the Vivax wagon early. From my point of view: I think there was never really enough traction on me to get me lynched, 1)especially since Haru looked scummier than I did. Also from my perspective 2)Haru is scum as I said, so therefore mafia needed an alternative target.
I think marv (who I read town) derped when he started the wagon, but we know that the wagon wouldn't have left the station if not enough people were on board. Here's where the mafia come in, they push the wagon over the critical mass and it causes a massive wreck. I believe there's at least 1 mafia, probably 2 in the vivax train. My guess would be Haru and poofter, in that order of confidence.
Excluding the things in his d1 filter, this 'read/explanation' thingy is a mess.
1) Is this TMI? He explicitly mentioned that I looked more scummy, not 'I am scum' or something definitive, which he did with his big ass weak ass case on me. So, are you already trying to distance yourself from hard pushing me?
2) This doesn't make a single bit of sense. mafia needed a new target, so when marv (who you townread) started the wagon and everyone hopped on board, there was scum there? Are you kidding me? So there is scum amongst the 8 people on board? Nice read there.
3)'I think there was never really enough traction on me to get me lynched' seems like you almost sighed a breath of relief there. If marv decided you need to die on d1, you would have been lynched. Period.
On August 10 2014 11:04 gobbledydook wrote:
I think poofter's a great lynch, I don't recall him doing anything recently it's a marvel that he isn't already lynched.
I know my filter's short but I don't like spam posting everything that comes up in my mind. I'm also not going to martyr like I did yesterday because we can't afford another mislynch.
My proposed scumteam is poofter obi haru. Obi's been pretty devoid of content in this game, when I played him in Noir Mini, he was capable of producing good, detailed reads as town. So I think the fact that he hasn't posted anything that made me think 'hm thats good', points to him being scum. Poofter is a worse offender and I've already pointed out before how his play fits his mafia meta more than his town meta, see my filter for details. 1)Haru has amazingly posted 1 page of non-committal stuff in three (!) days. He was posting a lot when he was up for lynch day 1, and since the pressure dissipated, he hasn't found a reason to keep posting, aka he's a mafia only posting because he has to.
After 3 pages of nearly no reads (aside from his hardon for poofter and the sheep on onegu), this was the only 'read' he had.
1) I bet 1 page of non committal stuff is 300% better than 3 pages of non committal stuff.
Outside of these 2 posts, there is really nothing of value in gobble's filter (except his hardon for poofter, which is none of my business)
Remember this statement gobble wrote:
I'm also not going to martyr like I did yesterday because we can't afford another mislynch.
Read this shit in your mind and tell me what you think of it.
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On August 10 2014 23:43 Holyflare wrote:
Oh haru you have to answer why you disregard my meta on wave that wasn't really that old at the start of the game but then sheep marv on onegu no questions asked on 8 month old meta
Well, if you wanna look at it that way, I have
-disregarded meta case on GK
-disregarded meta case on poofter
-disregarded meta case from onegu to you
-disregarded meta case from marv to onegu
Also, that was so early in the beginning, when your argument is so easy to dispute. While their arguments are mostly based on post counts. (gk/poofter) while onegu/marv is their beef with one another, which I am too lazy to check out (also due to my rl stuff such as excessive partying since it is national day).
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On August 10 2014 23:53 Holyflare wrote:
So who do you think is the mafia team? Also, do you think your case on gobbledy can only come from mafia? None of the things you pointed out really look like they do at all? You kind of just call out posts he made and counter the argument he is making (such as 1 page of non committal stuff) but what's the scummy intent behind them?
^ like read what I wrote
This is just a filter dive I am doing on gobble
it all leads to the amazing conclusion where the 3 scummers are busted
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