EPTOn August 07 2014 11:33 goodkarma wrote:
From given up --> lynch Marv in 20 minutes... Interesting
From given up --> lynch Marv in 20 minutes... Interesting
i finished raging
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gobbledydook
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i finished raging | ||
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goodkarma
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That was fast. | ||
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gobbledydook
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would you prefer me rage for 20 minutes or 20 hours i can do 20 hours too | ||
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Tehpoofter
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That's what she said! | ||
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goodkarma
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On August 07 2014 11:50 gobbledydook wrote: would you prefer me rage for 20 minutes or 20 hours i can do 20 hours too If you're done raging, then do something productive. | ||
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goodkarma
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On August 07 2014 09:52 WaveofShadow wrote: Wow either kush has come a long long way, or I have severely underestimated him. Probably both. Trying to decide if NK is frame attempt on people kush has found scummy (HF, onegu, Gd) but I don't think I've ever actually seen mafia attempt to frame anyone so I think I'm forced to discount it. Marv doesn't sheep lightly so I'm willing to bet he has faith in kush's reads for a reason. I've re-evaluated some reads as I caught up. Just a sec This is where you left off. It would be a good spot to pick up from. | ||
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goodkarma
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goodkarma
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And if you mean to try unvoting yourself would be good too. | ||
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goodkarma
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 Lurking here for the next couple hours talk to me. | ||
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Tehpoofter
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On August 07 2014 12:13 goodkarma wrote: It amazes me how no one is ever on when I actually have time to post... Lurking here for the next couple hours talk to me. Hai QT who would you bang here? | ||
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gobbledydook
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On August 07 2014 00:19 marvellosity wrote: the thing is, i really think kush is town, and he's been pretty damn handy at catching mafia lately, and he seems really really convinced that gobble is mafia. it kinda feels like a leap of faith is called for. On August 07 2014 00:28 marvellosity wrote: why not? if someone's in good form and is convinced someone is mafia, that's kinda compelling. i get tons of lynches through like that. sheeping good skill to have tbh. 'Someone has been right lately so I'm just going to blindly trust him even though I'm not sold on his arguments' Either there's a case of cognitive bias here where marv just remembers the times he gets lucky with his sheeping, or he's trying to back away from his read with a semi-plausible reason. My question is, if he's town and doesn't think I'm town any more, why doesn't he give his own reasoning why I'm now scum other than 'kush thinks gobbledydook is scum'? | ||
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Tehpoofter
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By that I mean what are your town reads atm? | ||
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goodkarma
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Why would you ask for my townreads? In what way are they relevant for today's lynch? | ||
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goodkarma
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On August 07 2014 12:23 gobbledydook wrote: 'Someone has been right lately so I'm just going to blindly trust him even though I'm not sold on his arguments' Either there's a case of cognitive bias here where marv just remembers the times he gets lucky with his sheeping, or he's trying to back away from his read with a semi-plausible reason. My question is, if he's town and doesn't think I'm town any more, why doesn't he give his own reasoning why I'm now scum other than 'kush thinks gobbledydook is scum'? So just to be clear your proposed scumteam now is: Haru, Poofter, Marv And you feel okay about everyone else? | ||
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gobbledydook
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On August 07 2014 12:48 goodkarma wrote: So just to be clear your proposed scumteam now is: Haru, Poofter, Marv And you feel okay about everyone else? Those three are on my bad list, I haven't reread everyone's filter yet so I cannot say for sure they are OK. In particular I haven't quite got around to analyzing the cases on holyflare. | ||
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goodkarma
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On August 07 2014 13:11 gobbledydook wrote: Those three are on my bad list, I haven't reread everyone's filter yet so I cannot say for sure they are OK. In particular I haven't quite got around to analyzing the cases on holyflare. What about now? Promised thoughts on HF ready yet? | ||
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gobbledydook
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So here comes vivax, he's gone all day since at the beginning when haru was making that +1/-1 posts. So naturally he's still thinking of that, and then holyflare hard scumreads him for him attacking everyone on haru at that point but not actually commenting on the haru argument. From what I read vivax had already established his haru townread and since he thinks scum are mislynching him he is trying to find out who's scum in his enemies. For some god knows reason aka 'being a dick' he gets EOD wagoned, and then the recrimination flies everywhere, eden and kush who didn't join the EOD wagon incriminate him for instigating the lynch... This is a complete disaster. I don't know what to take from this. I don't even think all this wagon-starting and recrimination is indicative of alignment at all, there's way too much bad in there that anyone, town or mafia likewise, could pick holes in them. I don't know if HF is scum or town, he's posted lots of strong reads (but a scum HF is perfectly capable of doing that as well as town I assume), but he's also caused a huge ruckus over vivax (that could be scum muddying the waters or town just not wanting to admit he was wrong). Can someone guide me through that ten pages of shit? | ||
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WaveofShadow
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On August 04 2014 10:48 gobbledydook wrote: Read haru's filter. It is certainly badly worded. But palmar's advice on mafia: the most boring person is mafia, is legit. Often ppl who say the worst things are town because they aren't actively trying to sound innocuous. This quote makes me wonder why he didn't come after me early along with everyone else. From everyone else's description of me I certainly should have fit the bill, no? A bunch of decent posting talking about Artanis and kush, then this: On August 05 2014 13:12 gobbledydook wrote: Artanis finally showed up and did something useful. Poofter hasn't. All he really has done is scumread on the timing of marv's vote and then say he can't read him anyway. It's such a useless, trivial point that occupies lots of space. ##vote: tehpoofter I guess this is what everyone has a problem with, and I really do see it here. It looks as though he was almost looking for a reason to drop the read on Artanis. What the motivation is for that I'm not sure. On August 05 2014 13:36 gobbledydook wrote: 1) Haru: It's a good case, I had raised some of my objections about Haru before, but HF persuaded me that just because I don't agree with him doesn't mean he is scum. I still don't like any of his posts, the logic just isn't there. I could be persuaded to vote Haru. 2) Obi: Null read atm, he's played similarly to when I saw him in Noir Mini 2, and he was town in that game. He hasn't particularly stood out as towny though so that's why I have a null read. 3) Artanis: I said before, I think he's come out with good discussion and so I unvoted him. 4) The meaning of life: 42. Fairly innocuous comments here and no commitment to much of anything, #3 is a very slight fleshing out of why he unvoted Artanis. On August 05 2014 18:27 gobbledydook wrote: When I talked about artanis being useful I was referring to and Which to me seems like legit discussion and good points made. Holyflare, forgive me for being dumb, but I don't quite follow your logic in dismissing Artanis's posts as being mafia filler. Can you please explain in detail? I'm sure I am missing out on some nuance here. Better explanation. I'm REALLY not seeing scum here so far, and I'm fairly certain the reason for most scumreads on GD have already happened by now. The rest of his filter is some ok posting, more stuff on Haru (I'm still salty nobody thinks to bring up any of my reasons to vote him but whatever) and then he goes all super rage defensive mode, something I personally find to be more likely from a new town perspective---he's not used to dealing with people aggressively attacking him and being wrong. It can be extremely frustrating to know you're in the right and you can't convince people. Now kush is apparently the primary proponent of the GD lynch, so I'm looking at him as well. Fuck I kinda wish I had attempted to look into this earlier because I don't think I understand kush's main points. Apparently according to him GD is actively painting Haru in a scummy light a while ago with that post about Haru flinging shit at 7 people. On August 07 2014 01:09 kushm4sta wrote: The reasons people give for their scumreads usually make up a very small percentage of their filters, but they are the most important parts of their filters by far. Gobbles has this to say about it: According to Gobbles, Haru is suspicious of Artanis because Artanis is buddying with someone Haru thinks is scum. That is not what Haru meant at all though. Haru meant that Artanis is suspicious because he's buddying someone he should have been skeptical of. That major misrepresentation, one that I doubt town would ever make, is the only specific reason gobbles gives for voting Haru. Ok there we go. I've got it. On August 07 2014 01:30 kushm4sta wrote: On top of that, there is no scum hunting idea in gobbles filter that sticks out as "wow it would be hard for scum to think of that." This is real good to. Fucking kush man. Alright I think I finally have a grasp on this stuff. It looks like kush has a little bit of confirmation bias and some preflip associations going on in his head as he pretty adamantly believes GD to be scum chainsawing Haru to protect Artanis. I dunno he brings up a could of good points about GD but they're pretty inconclusive imo, and marv I'm honestly pretty surprised this is good enough for you to go ahead and sheep him on. To me GD is null at best/worst. I don't see anything majorly towny but I don't see the opposite either. | ||
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goodkarma
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Marv why are you still alive? There a good reason 4 u 2 b alive d2? On August 06 2014 07:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ag7ZTWU.png) Never forget. | ||
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goodkarma
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Night all | ||
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