On August 01 2014 04:44 GlowingBear wrote: By the way, should we lynch meatpudding day2?
We have the whole next day to figure that out, why do you ask now and from us like this?
Jesus, why are you overreacting??? We also have a whole night, why not discuss this? The more we discuss the more we get close to mafia. Doesn't matter if we will have a night kill or not. We aren't helping them finding blue, anyway.
On August 01 2014 04:19 JennyHell wrote: Haha, some of the logic of people is just so wacko. Why even call Teemu out for it when others did it multiple times during d1? It just doesn't make sense. Stop trying to help mafia by clearing their questionmarks out for them.
Saying someone is blue daytime =\= saying someone is blue night time. I don't think mafia is stupid enough for believing that hint from Teemu.
Your logic train isn't even on the tracks. Consult a technician.
I'm going to pretend like I'm all the roles. So As medic I'm saving jenny. As Cop I'm checking between Teemu/Seeya/Meat and outting with a red check of any kind. As Vigi I'm shooting GB for trying to make roles claim when they don't need to.
I'm going to give a hard bang, marry kill soon. Enjoy!
ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Do you all read me as mafia??? Really???
I'm going to pretend like I'm all the roles. So As medic I'm saving jenny. As Cop I'm checking between Teemu/Seeya/Meat and outting with a red check of any kind. As Vigi I'm shooting GB for trying to make roles claim when they don't need to.
I'm going to give a hard bang, marry kill soon. Enjoy!
ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Do you all read me as mafia??? Really???
Wtf I give up
Are you drunk? Unless you're secretly Seeya/Meat I think you're in the clear.
Suggesting vigi killing me? How's that clear? God that's awful.
I'm going to pretend like I'm all the roles. So As medic I'm saving jenny. As Cop I'm checking between Teemu/Seeya/Meat and outting with a red check of any kind. As Vigi I'm shooting GB for trying to make roles claim when they don't need to.
I'm going to give a hard bang, marry kill soon. Enjoy!
ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Do you all read me as mafia??? Really???
Wtf I give up
Are you drunk? Unless you're secretly Seeya/Meat I think you're in the clear.
Suggesting vigi killing me? How's that clear? God that's awful.
Donkey? Really? I don't even...
Nah, I give up.
I've seen you play really well in the games we've played together I dont actually think you're a donkey I just feel like your heads not in the game or something I know what you can do so step it up and lets find the mafia!
Ok. I just feel frustrated when I look scummy when I know I'm not. I guess I shouldn't care for it right now. I'll let you think what you want. I want to know what Teemu and Jenny thinks about lynching meatpudding tomorrow. It's important. You may ask why I think it's important and I'll answer that it is important. Thank you.
On August 01 2014 08:42 Tehpoofter wrote: EVERYONE MAKE SOME SORT OF MARRY BANG KILL OR READS BEFORE NIGHTFALL!!!! Someone is dying unless I get a medic save and we need to know where people are at.
Please give reasons. This is a great time to point out theories you might have talk about interactions with the RNG man and how it affects your reads post flip. We didn't know he was mafia until a bit ago.
MY READS WERE SUPER BASIC FOR A REASON I WANT DETAILED READS FROM OTHERS PLEASE!!
Marry - Pooftahboy Will not give my reasons for this one. I think it's way too obvious already and if you haven't paid enough attention to draw the conclusions yourself then you don't deserve to know why. Also, I'm going carpe diem mode on this and saying fuck it! Let's do it! Where mah diamond ring at, yo?
Bang - GB Your attitude, man... Stop giving up so easily. Unless you're actually mafia, then please do give up and let me win. Thanks. You've had some really bonkers reads and flawed logic, but you're genuinely trying to solve this, or at least so it appears to me. You're not my lynch for today. Enjoy the bang sesh.
- Tolkien Oh boy, you just keep coming back for more, don't you? You do need to lighten up a litte, but I love that you're showing such passion for the game that you're willing to yell at my hubby. Or is it raging jealousy? On a more serious note though, where your posts lack in quantity you make up for it in quality.
- Teemu I still have no clue how to even begin to read you. Sometimes you appear really towny in things you say and then you start talking smack about wolves and whatnot. It's just really confusing. The fact that people I find scummy is pushing on you, makes me think you're more towny. So welcome to a 1 night stand. Sit back, relax and enjoy the ride.
Kill
- Meatpudding I can't make sense out of why you went to such a distance of defending DC. I felt if you really wanted to swing it around and push on Teemu there were way better ways to do it than your pisspoor attempts. I said it back then and I'll say it again you were grasping at straws and you were defending the other wagon over yourself. Really odd behaviour. I need an explanation before I even begin reconsidering this scum you've smeared yourself in.
Loners You lot are loners because you didn't get married or banged, but you're still alive, for now.
-Seeya A lot of people read you scum and to start with I had a really hard time seeing it. But it's come to a point where I don't really know where you stand any more. People are starting to make sense about you that you're just doing what I like to call "the pope game". You play just about towny enough, nothing more than that. I want to see some passion from you! I liked your towny approach the last few hours of the day, discussing your gut feeling about meat and what to do if a tie occurs etc. However, why you feel I've fallen off due to some silly ass early read from DC about me being towny (when everyone but GB read me town) is just odd. I need you to show me my gbff and how much he wants to win this for town!
-lilwade You're getting closer to being on the banglist. I still have some qualms about you, but your early push on DC and your newfound uplifting attitude is fantastic. The reason you didn't make my banglist is because some of the things you said earlier, asking meat to announce his role (coaching mafia mate? I dno..) And then when I said that I didn't like that you agreed and it just felt very flipfloppy, and noone likes flip flops. They make the most annoying sounds.
I think this is a really good example of a reads list that a townie makes like everyone needs to do something like this. Good info here good analysis. Good job Wife.
I sent you a link to the ring so be ready. Also FlipFlops are amazing!
My question to you is do you feel that if you're wrong on a Bang who do you think it would be?
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Wrong on a bang... Could honestly be either one of them. The one I'm having the hardest time reading is Teemu, but that scum is pushing on him helps his case. If it's Tolkien, good job at portraying town when you have to. This is the one I least think it is if I'm wrong on one. GB's shown some weird ass logic and give-up attitude. Something I highly dislike seeing in town play. I once played an 8player video mafia game where the VT gave up and we ended up mislynching him, then mafia still had 2kp, and we ended up losing the game from 1 misslynch. Fairly sure the setup in that game is ridiculous, but whatever. Never give up as town. Fight fight fight and fight some more. Him giving up without even being pushed is very peculiar. Mafia trying to appeal to emotions? I dno.. It's too confusing. Could me meta GB, could be Teemu the unreadable, could not be Tolkien, unless I'm a massive donkey.
I agree GB he makes me think WHAT THE F ARE YOU DOING?!?!? this game quite a bit but I get a townie vibe its weird. :/
Oh now you get a townie vibe from the guy you said you would shoot if you were vigi. Great!
Ok, I'm comfortable to tell my thoughts on the game, not yet on everybody. The key of pushing next day is to add vote count analysis to your reads. If you check solely vote count, we have a situation of two wagons, 666 and meatpudding.
Supposing meatpudding is town, I don't believe mafia would stick to 666 wagon. They would probably try to bus meatpudding's lynch and save their partner. If that is so, we've got two possible mafias remaining on meatpudding wagon: Teemu and Cya
If meatpudding is mafia, then we probably have a mafia on him also. You see, if I were mafia and if I had two partners as the main bus with no probability of shifting focus, I'd vote for the most probable to die. It would confirm me as town, somehow. Have in mind I switched around 3 hours before the lynch, not giving enough time for mafia to react. So probably mafia chose to lynch meatpudding and, if this is right, Teemu or cya still could be mafia. But that's only if you believe that mafia had short time to react. You may consider that the remaining mafia was on 666, clearing Teemu and cya, narrowing the people you should push.
BASED solely on that, we have two good starts at day2: (1)start pushing meatpudding and, if nothing happens,lynch him to at least get his alignment. It would help a lot to solve the game. Or (2), pushing meatpudding remaining voters to see what they can give to us to confirm this theory or not.
On August 01 2014 12:16 GlowingBear wrote: Ok, I'm comfortable to tell my thoughts on the game, not yet on everybody. The key of pushing next day is to add vote count analysis to your reads. If you check solely vote count, we have a situation of two wagons, 666 and meatpudding.
Supposing meatpudding is town, I don't believe mafia would stick to 666 wagon. They would probably try to bus meatpudding's lynch and save their partner. If that is so, we've got two possible mafias remaining on meatpudding wagon: Teemu and Cya
If meatpudding is mafia, then we probably have a mafia on him also. You see, if I were mafia and if I had two partners as the main bus with no probability of shifting focus, I'd vote for the most probable to die. It would confirm me as town, somehow. Have in mind I switched around 3 hours before the lynch, not giving enough time for mafia to react. So probably mafia chose to lynch meatpudding and, if this is right, Teemu or cya still could be mafia. But that's only if you believe that mafia had short time to react. You may consider that the remaining mafia was on 666, clearing Teemu and cya, narrowing the people you should push.
BASED solely on that, we have two good starts at day2: (1)start pushing meatpudding and, if nothing happens,lynch him to at least get his alignment. It would help a lot to solve the game. Or (2), pushing meatpudding remaining voters to see what they can give to us to confirm this theory or not.
My preferred method would be (1).
My take on this is, as a townie, it was honestly a pretty easy vote on either of these two compared to everyone else.
Basically a major thing that led me to the decision to vote on him, was my disappointment in him. He was gone a good part of day 1, then he comes in and makes a couple posts that I personally got a townie vibe off of, and he said he would shortly be posting more on his insights, and then just dropped off. That was a huge blow to my townie cred for him, because I was waiting to hear from him to formulate my thoughts around his thoughts and see where I stood next to him, but that opportunity never came. It was not until it was a few hours close to lynch time that he came back, and then went hard on someone who had 1. almost no chance of being lynched so it was a weird target 2. Almost completely ignored our arguments for Roman it seemed(yes he did mention him a couple times, but it was more of a, whatever y'all can lynch him if you want, I'm not changing my vote), and 3. although clock had way less posts than he did by night's end, clock still seemed to be more around that meat pudding was, who was basically only in the game for a couple small instances.
This is well known by everybody. I, myself, was voting for him. But you got to admit that the most logical mafia thought is to vote for a possible mislynch than for a partner, right?
This is a start point for day two. We should still base our arguments on reads.
On August 01 2014 12:16 GlowingBear wrote: If meatpudding is mafia, then we probably have a mafia on him also. You see, if I were mafia and if I had two partners as the main bus with no probability of shifting focus, I'd vote for the most probable to die. It would confirm me as town, somehow. Have in mind I switched around 3 hours before the lynch, not giving enough time for mafia to react. So probably mafia chose to lynch meatpudding and, if this is right, Teemu or cya still could be mafia. But that's only if you believe that mafia had short time to react. You may consider that the remaining mafia was on 666, clearing Teemu and cya, narrowing the people you should push.
BASED solely on that, we have two good starts at day2: (1)start pushing meatpudding and, if nothing happens,lynch him to at least get his alignment. It would help a lot to solve the game. Or (2), pushing meatpudding remaining voters to see what they can give to us to confirm this theory or not.
On August 01 2014 13:51 Lord Tolkien wrote: What with him going on and on about another mafia partner on a mafia meatpudding. <_< wat
wat
On August 01 2014 12:16 GlowingBear wrote: If meatpudding is mafia, then we probably have a mafia on him also. You see, if I were mafia and if I had two partners as the main bus with no probability of shifting focus, I'd vote for the most probable to die. It would confirm me as town, somehow. Have in mind I switched around 3 hours before the lynch, not giving enough time for mafia to react. So probably mafia chose to lynch meatpudding and, if this is right, Teemu or cya still could be mafia. But that's only if you believe that mafia had short time to react. You may consider that the remaining mafia was on 666, clearing Teemu and cya, narrowing the people you should push.
BASED solely on that, we have two good starts at day2: (1)start pushing meatpudding and, if nothing happens,lynch him to at least get his alignment. It would help a lot to solve the game. Or (2), pushing meatpudding remaining voters to see what they can give to us to confirm this theory or not.
If meatpudding is mafia, then we probably have a mafia on him also. You see, if I were mafia and if I had two partners as the main bus with no probability of shifting focus, I'd vote for the most probable to die. It would confirm me as town, somehow. Have in mind I switched around 3 hours before the lynch, not giving enough time for mafia to react. So probably mafia chose to lynch meatpudding and, if this is right, Teemu or cya still could be mafia.
Again, assumes 3 mafia.
To that I say,
Assuming we have three mafia, is it still flawed? I assumed we have three mafia because of the slider up from last newbie game
I'm not saying that what I've brought is 100% right. I'm saying that it has hot a higher probability of happening and that it would be a good push to start day 2
On August 01 2014 14:18 GlowingBear wrote: I'm not saying that what I've brought is 100% right. I'm saying that it has hot a higher probability of happening and that it would be a good push to start day 2
Assumes 3 mafia.
Touching upon this before night ends, but I...cordially disagree.
Ok, assuming 2 mafia then, one is down, meatpudding refused to go after 666. I can't see a better day2 lynch
On August 01 2014 14:25 Teemursu wrote: At this point I kind of wish we could speed up the game and go on a rampage killing meat and maybe Seeyalater.
Meatpudding should concede. He is mafia and he is going to die.
GB, you're the biggest fucking flip flopper I've ever witnessed.
First you create a rhyme that says how much meat is going to die, then you change your vote from meat to DC and when it turns out DC was mafia you claim you're confirmed, and start saying that meat is a blue, and now you're back to wanting him dead?
I dno what the hell you're doing, and it's rubbing me the wrong way.
Nothing wrong with flipping reads. To be honest, I won my games doing that correctly at least once on each... I was clearly joking about him being blue...
Look, I've explained the reason I switched vote to 666 and to be fair I could hammer a mafia. 666 voted for meatpudding so if I kept my vote on meatpudding we would have a hard time trying to figure out who to push here.
Meatpudding has got a ton of posts that indicates he is scum with 666, and now I'm talking about flipped associations.
I know what you can do so step it up and lets find the mafia! 
EPT
