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OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 08 2014 05:02 GMT
#9
/in as Junior
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 08 2014 18:48 GMT
#18
man robik is whatever he wanna be
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 10 2014 21:50 GMT
#205
I propose that my team name be "Frauds R Us"
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 11 2014 02:12 GMT
#268
/confirm
/sheep
##VOTE: tehpoofter
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 11 2014 02:13 GMT
#270
On July 11 2014 11:11 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2014 11:08 Eden1892 wrote:
On July 11 2014 11:08 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Eden are you sure you're not Blazinghand?

it would be a great honor


How about a fail.

Let me wisen you up on why BH is not that great of a player.

BH claimed vanilla town in a game I recently played with him. I questioned it, and he got me lynched because of Kenpachi Rule

Let me explain something here, that rule is the stupidest rule EVER!

I was fucking town. And im not going to have you mess up town's win this game just because you think it works.

Id rather vote you pff than deal with that bs again.

mad
its your job to convince people not to lynch you anyway
as long as you do your job should be np
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 11 2014 02:23 GMT
#279
great wisdom goodkarma
i shall ignore all meta arguments from now on
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 11 2014 02:24 GMT
#282
we must channel blazinghand further
let us rng lynch
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 11 2014 02:28 GMT
#291
poof why no reads
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 11 2014 02:30 GMT
#296
but how do you know he is actually mafia sir poof
the lady doth protest too much, me thinks
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 11 2014 02:30 GMT
#297
uhhhhhh actually town*
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 11 2014 02:35 GMT
#308
On July 11 2014 11:33 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2014 11:30 OnceKing wrote:
but how do you know he is actually mafia sir poof
the lady doth protest too much, me thinks


Your answer will be found on page 1 of this thread.

u wot
plz point out and explain to me as if i am a small child with limited mental faculties
+ Show Spoiler +
i mean, i am a child with limited mental faculties but just pretend they're even MORE limited than they actually are
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 11 2014 02:40 GMT
#313
oh
yes
my bad
i meant eden

cause ya understand the way i see it the only way you'd know his vt claim is helping the mafia power role hunt is if... you think his claim is legit and had a reason to believe he was town like two minutes into the game
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 11 2014 02:45 GMT
#318
On July 11 2014 11:43 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2014 11:40 OnceKing wrote:
oh
yes
my bad
i meant eden

cause ya understand the way i see it the only way you'd know his vt claim is helping the mafia power role hunt is if... you think his claim is legit and had a reason to believe he was town like two minutes into the game


Do you think mafia or town would more likely try and use kenpachi rule?

Because from my experience, and the only time I've ever seen it used, it was a town who used it.

Now I'm not giving Eden a pass for it, but it could be likely he is town.

But it's also possible he could be mafia trying to trap a town under a mislynch.

So we have 2 scenerios there.
What do you think?

but... he wasnt using the kenpachi rule two minutes into the game... he only used it once someone ACTIVATED HIS TRAP CARD

so i dont see the point of your question at all
of course eden could be mafia or town but that doesnt address the point which is that poof was awfully accepting of the claim so early
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 11 2014 02:50 GMT
#329
not necessarily. i mean it's certainly a necessary condition to kenpachi rule somebody but just because someone claims vt doesn't mean they're going to use the kenpachi rule

you seem to be interpreting the rule as some sort of baseless accusation when in fact it's actually a read or heuristic for specific reasons
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 11 2014 02:59 GMT
#339
g o o d l o r d

you still haven't understood the rationale behind kenpachi rule after that game. [url="http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/458796-normal-mini-mafia-lvi?page=5#84"]here[/url] is the full explanation behind it.

it's a heuristic. it makes sense. do i think it works 100% of the time? no. do i think it worked here? yes.

- Frauds R Us: Sinani and OK
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 11 2014 02:59 GMT
#340
GOD
FIXED LINK
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 11 2014 03:03 GMT
#348
On July 11 2014 12:01 IAmRobik wrote:
OK and Eden have to stop harping on this "whatever" rule bullshit. It's really not progressing the thread anywhere and it's annoying to read over and over again

i disagree that it's not progressing the thread
but it might be annoying to read over and over again

would you like to progress the thread then or would you just like to complain about it
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 11 2014 03:07 GMT
#354
so do you have an actual reason for not playing the game robik i must have missed it
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 11 2014 03:22 GMT
#359
On July 11 2014 12:07 OnceKing wrote:
so do you have an actual reason for not playing the game robik i must have missed it

"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 11 2014 03:35 GMT
#375
On July 11 2014 12:29 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2014 12:22 OnceKing wrote:
On July 11 2014 12:07 OnceKing wrote:
so do you have an actual reason for not playing the game robik i must have missed it


read the thread. not gonna answer this again cause i'm a lil whiney bitch

i believe i said ACTUAL reason
"i didnt read the thread and i dont care" isnt an actual reason

- FRU
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 11 2014 03:46 GMT
#389
bunnies none of that makes sense
it's not as if a mafia robik would tell you anyway and i don't see how any of that helps you know anything about his alignment here
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 11 2014 03:51 GMT
#393
i just remembered that you, eden and myself are all from louisiana
would you like to explain to me very slowly what you're thinking then?
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 11 2014 04:00 GMT
#398
i agree robik is being useless
i also think we should evaluate each person individually independent of who their other half is.

the thing is, i don't see how ANY response could have been indicative of any alignment bunnies. because if he's town then he's telling the truth and if he's mafia he can just make anything up and it remains consistent, so the question still doesn't lead to anything meaningful.

for example, what opening post would make him mafia? what about town?
and why would you ask him such a question for which the response says basically nothing about his alignment?
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 11 2014 04:01 GMT
#399
yep eden and i are at LSU
also i keep forgetting to sign my posts fuk

- FRU
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 11 2014 05:14 GMT
#411
Good news all my internet detonated and now I am phone posting

I'm more comfortable with bunnies now and Eden has consistently been on the same page as me
Therefore my new favorite target is whatever robik's team is called
##Unvote
##Vote: iamrobik


- fru
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 11 2014 05:16 GMT
#412
Boy I just realized how completely non sequitur that sounds

Robik is refusing to play the game
Therefore lynch

Not gonna lie this is like half policy almost but he ain't tryna help either
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 11 2014 05:31 GMT
#413
On July 11 2014 12:38 Stratiform wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2014 12:28 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Stratiform, I've never seen you before or played with you before.

Do you play here on TL often?

How familiar are you with the game mafia?

What is your take on the game so far?

I've never played on TL, only irl and some facebook based games. I'm familiar with how mafia works.

As for the game so far, I don't really see any information to cast more than suspicion on anyone.

Fun question
What merits casting more than suspicion then
And who is your suspicion cast upon
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 11 2014 05:41 GMT
#417
D u d e t t e did you just wrote me and ask the exact same questions as me
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 11 2014 05:41 GMT
#418
Quote*

- FRU
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 11 2014 05:51 GMT
#424
He go sleepy time said he read when wake up
Guess he got more of a life than me
Me too soon tho lol
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 11 2014 05:57 GMT
#426
So based on what he's said thus far what think you of robik
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 11 2014 15:28 GMT
#583
On July 11 2014 14:31 OnceKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2014 12:38 Stratiform wrote:
On July 11 2014 12:28 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Stratiform, I've never seen you before or played with you before.

Do you play here on TL often?

How familiar are you with the game mafia?

What is your take on the game so far?

I've never played on TL, only irl and some facebook based games. I'm familiar with how mafia works.

As for the game so far, I don't really see any information to cast more than suspicion on anyone.

Fun question
What merits casting more than suspicion then
And who is your suspicion cast upon

So I go to sleep
and I wake up
and this question still isn't answered... Stratiform pls

--

Robik can you tell me what bunnies/poof have done that's scummy other than "they disagree with each other"? Alternately can you explain why disagreeing with your teammate is alignment indicative?
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 11 2014 15:48 GMT
#596
whats so townie about that post...
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 11 2014 15:49 GMT
#598
oh ninja'd

buuuuuuuuuuut i still don't get it LOL :D explain to me

agree with bunnies, stratiform response to my question was a copout
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 11 2014 16:46 GMT
#703
sqrt how do you townread eden and then contradict yourself very soon afterwards

i still don't like robik but now for different reasons, most of his posts are talking about he and his teammate are innocent while hardly ever mentioning his scumread/fos/whatever on bunnies

- FRU
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 11 2014 17:08 GMT
#735
On July 12 2014 01:59 Palmar wrote:
ExO_ being thickheaded and annoying probably means he and robik are town.
I think OnceKing and Eden are both town (I know they're from separate teams).
Aside from nb's comment on liking glowingbear's post (which wasn't townie at all) I had at least a tiny townread on both of them, mostly from the fact that poofter was actually posting literally anything day 1.

why?
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 11 2014 17:33 GMT
#758
palmar when you get back i'd like you to tell me why you think both eden and myself are town.
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 11 2014 17:41 GMT
#761
On July 12 2014 02:37 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Okay, back, and I now that I think of it, rayn is suspicious. He sees something in my words that are flatly contradictory, calls me out on it, but doesn't push a lynch on me? That makes no sense.

why rayn and not me?
i'm willing to believe you made an honest mistake. but you're also wrong about eden lul
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 11 2014 17:58 GMT
#771
Ell how does one make a reasonable defense of one's teammate rofl
And yes sqrt i did call you on it
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 11 2014 18:08 GMT
#777
On July 12 2014 03:01 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 01:46 OnceKing wrote:
sqrt how do you townread eden and then contradict yourself very soon afterwards

i still don't like robik but now for different reasons, most of his posts are talking about he and his teammate are innocent while hardly ever mentioning his scumread/fos/whatever on bunnies

- FRU

I didn't notice this, sorry.

On July 12 2014 01:48 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 01:46 OnceKing wrote:
sqrt how do you townread eden and then contradict yourself very soon afterwards

i still don't like robik but now for different reasons, most of his posts are talking about he and his teammate are innocent while hardly ever mentioning his scumread/fos/whatever on bunnies

- FRU

Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 01:46 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Okay, about my meta read.
I made a mistake.
The link I first put, but the post I first made, here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/445959-newbie-mini-mafia-liv?user=Eden1892
is when he was town. I was thinking about this game when I said that he's mafia.
The link I didn't put, but the post I made second, here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/447955-newbie-mini-mafia-lv?user=Eden1892
is when he was mafia. I was thinking about this game when I said that he's town.

I just got confused, that's all.



reaaaaaaaaally
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 11 2014 18:39 GMT
#790
gotta disagree that game i started with policy talk, we had an argument and somehow managed to back off of each other without getting completely dunked

i can't remember joking around much at all that game
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 11 2014 18:41 GMT
#792
it was a hearthstone discussion
and no
but i dont think i joked around that much in my newbie as town either sooooooooooooo poor meta reads ftw?
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 11 2014 19:08 GMT
#809
>"OK wasn't doing much either"
ya ok
>"And I noticed that they both asked about robik."
so what
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 11 2014 19:30 GMT
#815
w/e
i'm willing to come off of robik now
but now i need to hear from sqrt something useful

- FRU
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 11 2014 19:35 GMT
#818
you can start by answering goodkarma's question
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 11 2014 19:43 GMT
#820
except for the part where i'm not lurking and your assertion that i wasn't doing much is completely ~Fraudulent~

also both of us asking about robik means... what exactly? that we want to know about robik? god forbid
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 11 2014 19:49 GMT
#824
On July 12 2014 04:44 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 04:43 OnceKing wrote:
except for the part where i'm not lurking and your assertion that i wasn't doing much is completely ~Fraudulent~

also both of us asking about robik means... what exactly? that we want to know about robik? god forbid

That maybe you're mafia, and you wanna kill him.

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooor

i thought he was mafia
and wanted to kill him

WOW WHAT A MINDBLOWING ALTERNATIVE
i sure had to think hard to come up with that one
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 11 2014 19:55 GMT
#832
i mean apparently i gotta do the legwork here
because all you've contributed is grapes, a meta read on eden which you then proceeded to contradict and withdraw, dismissed ExO's reads as being "fabricated" (how? why? i don't know, you never said, just used the buzzword) and made up shit about me then posted it like it's true
and slam has contributed more grapes and... i don't know.

##Vote: Team Cabernet Sauvignon
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 11 2014 21:28 GMT
#856
yo chairman ray is my homeboy
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 11 2014 21:31 GMT
#862
hi koshers
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 11 2014 21:48 GMT
#871
from sqrt's post that eden quoted:

I'm not so sure he's town. But the post is definitely the best post so far. But some of these reads seem fabricated.


hahahahaha
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 11 2014 21:52 GMT
#872
On July 12 2014 05:00 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Actually. OK, that's not a bad idea at all.

His posts are mainly nothing but contradictories and baseless reads.

##Unvote
##Vote Team Cabernet Sauvignon


(Though my vote should stay on Robik for that horrid joke)

You know bunnies I can't help but notice that your vote isn't actually on them...
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 11 2014 22:16 GMT
#877
and this would suggest what to you about his alignment
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 11 2014 22:25 GMT
#880
On July 12 2014 07:18 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 07:16 OnceKing wrote:
and this would suggest what to you about his alignment

What do you think?

you're not voting him and you're townreading the slot. or tentatively townreading it with a "maybe". you haven't explained how the reads are manufactured at all, only just made up things and posted them like they're true.




if someone is manufacturing reads, shouldn't they be scum? certainly there's no reason for townies to just bs reads unless they've got a plan in mind. so shouldn't you want to lynch them if you believe that, in fact, they ARE just making shit up?
but see how sqrt has said that he believes some reads are fabricated and yet says that it's a good post.

i don't buy his explanation that it's a good post "because it gives him information". sounds like a retroactive cover up to me. but even if it did give him information what has he shared with anyone? what actions has he taken based on this information? none and nothing.

the truth is that sqrt is the one who is making stuff up and needs to be lynched today.
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 11 2014 22:35 GMT
#884
followup question for stratiform before i forget and start digging my tunnel

what about now? last time i asked you said you had no suspects. i felt like there was enough content there already to make SOME judgements but that's water under the bridge now.
but it's much later now. certainly there's a lot of room for suspicions here. who do you think is mafia?
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
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July 11 2014 22:36 GMT
#885
On July 12 2014 07:34 27ninjabunnies wrote:
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On July 12 2014 06:52 OnceKing wrote:
On July 12 2014 05:00 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Actually. OK, that's not a bad idea at all.

His posts are mainly nothing but contradictories and baseless reads.

##Unvote
##Vote Team Cabernet Sauvignon


(Though my vote should stay on Robik for that horrid joke)

You know bunnies I can't help but notice that your vote isn't actually on them...


What?

You said that you're voting for Cabernet Sauvignon. You are not right now because you didn't do it in the voting thread.
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OnceKing
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July 11 2014 22:38 GMT
#887
we... we always had a voting thread...
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OnceKing
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July 11 2014 22:50 GMT
#895
hey koshi you around? would you like to lynch sqrt?
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OnceKing
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July 11 2014 22:57 GMT
#898
On July 12 2014 07:54 Alakaslam wrote:
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On July 12 2014 07:50 OnceKing wrote:
hey koshi you around? would you like to lynch sqrt?

So why do you push this so hard, yet won't tell me what is up?



I OMGUS freely

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/461355-team-melee-mini-mafia-v-newbies-and-vets?page=43#858
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/461355-team-melee-mini-mafia-v-newbies-and-vets?page=44#880

and robik said something too but i don't know his reasons
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OnceKing
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July 11 2014 23:11 GMT
#904
eden pls
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OnceKing
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July 11 2014 23:12 GMT
#905
sqrt if you have absolutely no idea who is scum how do you know to vote for Team Fakeclaim

- FRU
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OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
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July 12 2014 00:53 GMT
#942
can you, Slam, or anyone else tell me how those links are bull and how any of what sqrt wrote can be reduced to "wifoming himself"
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OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 12 2014 01:05 GMT
#945
there is no "chupazi rule"
there is a "kenpachi rule" which is explained here however that's not relevant to current discussion
chupazi is just slamspeak
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OnceKing
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July 12 2014 01:07 GMT
#947
summary: you are being lynched go read the thread to find out why
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OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
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July 12 2014 01:15 GMT
#951
if you are town you should be helping us get our shit together and convincing me not to vote you
you have now withheld judgment on eden and myself because we are on different teams. why?
your vote is currently on robik's team. why?
who do you think is mafia? why?
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OnceKing
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July 12 2014 01:27 GMT
#955
amusing as that would be i would rather get answers out of you
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OnceKing
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July 12 2014 01:41 GMT
#963
sqrt why did you vote for team fakeclaim
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OnceKing
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United States939 Posts
July 12 2014 01:41 GMT
#964
bunnies do you think a koshi/cr + palmar/strat scumteam makes much sense
i don't
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OnceKing
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July 12 2014 01:49 GMT
#967
tbh slamroot has done nothing to assuage my suspicions of them
the case i wrote about them slam dismissed as bull and sqrt wifoming himself which i just don't see
then slam has pointedly refused to answer the questions i ask him, honestly their thread contribution is basically zilch
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OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 12 2014 01:58 GMT
#971
you serious dawg
have you read the thread? look how i'm pushing for stuff to get done and trying to solve the game
you've made a list and done nothing with it. moreover you've contradicted yourself multiple times. the most obvious and immediate example is how you're voting for the person you would said "not to consider top town" instead of who you say everyone should keep an eye on.
you say that ExO's reads seem fabricated and your vote is on his slot and yet you have him as maybe town. actually "maybe town" is a stretch, after reading all of your posts i still don't know what you think of him because neither you nor slam will give me any straight answers. i asked you what ExO fabricating reads might indicate to you about his alignment and your response was "what do you think?", the epitome of uselessness.
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OnceKing
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July 12 2014 02:05 GMT
#977
slenderman when you get caught up tell me what you think of slamroot
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OnceKing
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July 12 2014 03:54 GMT
#990
On July 12 2014 12:40 Tehpoofter wrote:
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On July 12 2014 10:07 OnceKing wrote:
summary: you are being lynched go read the thread to find out why


I already asked bunnies what was up so I know I was honestly curious how others were oign to spin it


guess my tactics didn't work
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OnceKing
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July 12 2014 03:54 GMT
#991
slenderman, can you provide links to relevant posts please?
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OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 12 2014 04:09 GMT
#993
ehh... just took a look through haru's filter
gotta say i'm not really seeing it. explain it to me like i am a very small child with extremely limited mental capacities.
also explain to me why this is a better case than the slamroot case. because i can't construct any narrative in my mind where their actions make sense as town.
like i've NEVER known town to just roll over and die like that with over 24h remaining in the day. and when i MLed sqrt in the newbie game we played together he never gave up until the very end either.
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OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
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July 12 2014 05:13 GMT
#999
hmm
honestly i don't see how they've given palmar a free town pass as you say
actually i thought palmar's case on them was interesting but then i didn't say anything about it cause i took a nap and when i got back they had responded and palmar had been like OH GOOD RESPONSE lol

i DO see a worrying amount of discussion of points versus discussion of suspects though

i guess i need to read some other filters and stuff
i also need other ppl to check in and weigh in on current discussion
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OnceKing
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July 12 2014 05:20 GMT
#1002
i agree we have a lot of time left and there's no reason why we need only discuss slamroot during that time
i liked CR's posts on page like... 43 as well. can't remember anything koshers has said though.

and yes we can talk at night
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OnceKing
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July 12 2014 05:42 GMT
#1009
i am very very very bad at parsing sarcasm online and honestly since i was catching up after nappy nap time i just skimmed thru that stuff ughhh

i see the town pass now
actually that's pretty good now that i see it, it's kind of weird because it looks like they just said palmar was town indirectly
On July 11 2014 21:47 HaruRH wrote:
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On July 11 2014 21:45 Palmar wrote:
Well if you are town, either I'm town, and I am mistaken accidentally, or I'm mafia, and I'm forcing a case by being maliciously ignorant.


I don't want to omgus so early :/

So you're mistaken accidentally.

-WeDemandALawyer: Haru and GlowingBear


and that's actually bothersome

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

the trouble i'm having here is that i can totally understand haru's responses to the kenpachi rule stuff from a town perspective -- you do kinda have to engage at least partially in whatever the current discussion is regardless if your alignment i feel
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OnceKing
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July 12 2014 05:46 GMT
#1010
glowingbear can you justify your suspicion of Eden considering that your hunting heuristics have to do with passivity and friendliness yet Eden has been anything but
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OnceKing
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July 12 2014 05:47 GMT
#1013
On July 12 2014 14:46 Eden1892 wrote:
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On July 12 2014 14:29 GlowingBear wrote:
Why these guys? Because my way of scumhunting is going through passivity and too much friendly behavior. Going against people there were being quite and being friendly was my best bet on my first game and when I did that most of my readings got the right guys.

why am I anywhere in the stratosphere of your scumreads then

THE LOUISIANA VOLTRON MASON CONTINUES
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OnceKing
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July 12 2014 06:07 GMT
#1017
slender: yup! i more or less buy it. waiting on harubear response

slam: want to answer the questions i asked you earlier now?
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OnceKing
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July 12 2014 06:14 GMT
#1021
tell me the difference between witch hunting and scum hunting and why i am doing one but not the other please
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OnceKing
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July 12 2014 06:38 GMT
#1032
fantastic slam. now please tell me what you have done in your favor that would make you town.
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OnceKing
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July 12 2014 16:22 GMT
#1140
Phone posting before I get to a computer
First idk about slam but I know in the newbie with robik myself and sqrt when we mislynched sqrt he fought to the very end from the lynch I've just never seen town roll over and die like this
second me Eden scum team is crazy/idiotic lol
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OnceKing
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July 12 2014 16:41 GMT
#1144
On July 13 2014 01:20 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Okay, I'm back.
I have one read I'm pretty darn sure on.
Robik + ExO's mafia.
Wow, it's so obvious now.
Here's what you need to do.
Assume that they're mafia.
Now look at their posts.
They make complete sense if they're mafia. They fit perfectly together if they're mafia.
Done.

see look it's posts like this that make me so convinced
they just say things like they're true and don't back them up or explain how or why. and sometimes what they say is completely false.
this isn't the only instance.
+ Show Spoiler [wall of quotes lol] +
On July 12 2014 01:16 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
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On July 12 2014 00:57 IAmRobik wrote:
TOWNIEST POST IN THE MOTHA FUCKIN THREAD. THIS GUY IS SO FUCKING BRUTALLY TOWN. IF ANYONE VOTES TO LYNCH HIM, YOU WILL FACE MY WRATH

On July 12 2014 00:54 ExO_ wrote:
Some thoughts:

Team D-

I tend to have weird hours that I can be on, and I'm not just reading the TL forums 24/7, so while I can't always be as active as robik saying I'm not doing anything now isn't really giving me a fair shake in my opinion (@27ninjabunnies).

Every game I've seen 27nb in she goes around being very caustic and arrogant towards some people, and very nice to others. It seems to be regardless of her alignment. I find it to be unhelpful, as she goes off on tangents with wild accusations filled with bullshit reasoning for scum reads.

What this means in terms of the game is it's hard for me to read her as mafia or town. But I think she does more to cause problems in a town, than actually help with finding scum and uniting the town players.

Poofter isn't saying much and is kinda letting her get out in front. I don't know how to interpret that, but in World Cup poofter stayed kinda quiet until it came time to push me in the wrong directions. Nearly worked too .

So a null read on the team but I generally think constantly creating a toxic atmosphere for the town is a bad thing even if they are town.

Team Whine
Slam is posting a fuck ton of 1 liners/pictures/general nonsense (hijole?) and sqrtofneg1 is saying nothing at all. In larger games I think mafia lurking works better than in a smaller game such as this, but it's almost nothing to read off of. Will have to wait to see what they vote day 1 and what happens night 1 to really know what to think of them.

Team VendettaStrada
I'm not sure if they're both posting from the same account, but it looks like it's all raynpelioneet. In my limited experience here I haven't seen him before, and though he hasn't posted a fuck ton of stuff, seems townish it to me. Looks like he's contributing.

Team needs a lawyer
I always kinda read HaruRH scummy, he has a little bit of omgus going on, but I miss read him in world cup so it gives me pause. So I look over at glowing bear, and he hasn't said a whole lot either. Just got caught up in the Kenpachi business. But doesn't really read town to me. I lean scum here, but I'm hesitant.

Team Magic Carpet
Not a lot of posts from straightform just asking questions "Robik why won't u post?, Why would exo/robik not posting Day 1 not be bad for town" etc... Palmar calls out team lawyer for not posting anything of value, but I see very little of value from him at all. After reading his filter i think Palmar is the most scummy looking person so far in the thread.
*scum read*

Team GoodCornBadCorn
Completely afk. Like 1 combined other than their /in posts. like what....? Do they not know the game is happening? No reads yet for obvious reasons

Team Crotch Rocket
Not a lot being said from good Karma. Eden is posting quite a bit, and seems okay. I don't think mafia are going to be quite as active as eden is being, but it could be good coaching happening. Town read for now though

Team Fraud walRus
Sinani saying hardly anything, OnceKing's vote on our team I think is bad: it's based on robik not playing the game, when robik has been pretty active. Hasn't really expanded on any reads and got pretty caught up in ol' kenpachi but I don't get a scum vibe from him. Null read

Team M squared
mderg hasn't said too much, but I've generally liked and agreed with what marv has to say. I think Town


So that leaves me with

Town
M squared
Vendetta Strata (aka how can I make a parody of that team name)
Rocket Crotch


Null
D-
Whine*
Goodcornbadcorn*
Fraud walRus

Scum
Lawyer
Magic Carpet

*Mostly afk


Unfortunately, I think I shall cast some doubt on this post.
Some of these town reads are kind of fishy.
Ex:
Show nested quote +

Not a lot being said from good Karma. Eden is posting quite a bit, and seems okay. I don't think mafia are going to be quite as active as eden is being, but it could be good coaching happening. Town read for now though
Not my cup of tea.
Or this one
Show nested quote +

I'm not sure if they're both posting from the same account, but it looks like it's all raynpelioneet. In my limited experience here I haven't seen him before, and though he hasn't posted a fuck ton of stuff, seems townish it to me. Looks like he's contributing.

I'm not so sure he's town. But the post is definitely the best post so far. But some of these reads seem fabricated.
[grapes]

On July 12 2014 01:27 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Tehpoofter hasn't done much. No read on him.
Bunnies, however, has talked alot. A lot lot.
Bunnies isn't as helpful as in other games, to the best of my memory. She's not questioning anything, not pushing people, I don't like it.
But I don't think we should lynch them because you usually don't lynch the most outspoken player, even if they're not posting all that useful stuff.

Bunnies, any particular reason for not scumhunting?
[grapes]

On July 12 2014 01:31 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
I do not like palmar. (this seems to be a trend)
He hasn't /confirmed yet.
First post:
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On July 11 2014 04:25 Palmar wrote:
Hi I am Pálmar

And then does nothing for a significant amount of time.
Also this is not the palmar I saw when I played him. He was more analytical, more smart that game. This game, not so much.

Stratiform, I don't have a clue.
But this is my best read so far. They're mafia.

##Vote: Team Magic Computer
[grapes]

On July 12 2014 01:39 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
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On July 11 2014 21:13 sinani206 wrote:
hey palmar.

what do you think of robik.

Why does sinani call out palmar in particular? Why hasn't he done anything yet?

OK is better, but not by much. He also asks others of what they think of robik too.
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On July 11 2014 14:57 OnceKing wrote:
So based on what he's said thus far what think you of robik


I'm not sure what to make of this team. I wouldn't mind lynching them.

*insert grape picture here*

On July 12 2014 04:02 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
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On July 12 2014 03:57 goodkarma wrote:
On July 12 2014 01:39 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
On July 11 2014 21:13 sinani206 wrote:
hey palmar.

what do you think of robik.

Why does sinani call out palmar in particular? Why hasn't he done anything yet?

OK is better, but not by much. He also asks others of what they think of robik too.
On July 11 2014 14:57 OnceKing wrote:
So based on what he's said thus far what think you of robik


I'm not sure what to make of this team. I wouldn't mind lynching them.

*insert grape picture here*


Care to elaborate a bit on this? Asking questions and determining others' stances/reads is part of the game. And they have shared reads of their own. You say you wouldn't mind lynching them, yet you say you don't have much of a read on their alignment.

I don't.
But I wouldn't mind lynching them, because at that time, sinani had done practically nothing, and OK wasn't doing much either.
Sinani's question struck me as strange.
And I noticed that they both asked about robik.

On July 12 2014 07:09 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
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On July 12 2014 06:48 OnceKing wrote:
from sqrt's post that eden quoted:

I'm not so sure he's town. But the post is definitely the best post so far. But some of these reads seem fabricated.


hahahahaha

It's the best because it gave me the most information.
It gave me the most information because some of the reads seem fabricated.

On July 12 2014 08:14 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
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On July 12 2014 08:12 OnceKing wrote:
sqrt if you have absolutely no idea who is scum how do you know to vote for Team Fakeclaim

- FRU

RNG

On July 12 2014 10:33 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Okay, 30 minutes till we die.
I'm not sure, but I wouldn't have Robik+ExO as a top town team.
Keep an eye on OK and Eden.

On July 13 2014 01:20 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Okay, I'm back.
I have one read I'm pretty darn sure on.
Robik + ExO's mafia.
Wow, it's so obvious now.
Here's what you need to do.
Assume that they're mafia.
Now look at their posts.
They make complete sense if they're mafia. They fit perfectly together if they're mafia.
Done.

On July 12 2014 08:27 Alakaslam wrote:
HIJOLE I said don't post if you aren't sure; that is what happened

Was unsure but wanted to point out train of thought

Ppl you must understand eventually we who WIFOM ourselves learn the bamcis way of Rayn. We read based off current events and post a lot when we are here.

Fortunately work was moved to tomorrow so IAM here

On July 12 2014 08:42 Alakaslam wrote:
You should think about this statement

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On July 12 2014 08:30 Eden1892 wrote:
Is the scum qt too cluttered to coach sqrt there Slam?


And tell me why we are now confirmed town or else you can lynch lurkers before us and get a guaranteed win.

Otherwise I will point it out & u look phoolish

On July 12 2014 09:06 Alakaslam wrote:
Both links are the same bull

It is sqrt wifoming himself aloud like i do in my head, I do the same thing in my first newbie and second and third

Then hurricane sponge and I learned the way of HIJOLE, followed by Chezinu and CHUPAZI

On July 12 2014 10:22 Alakaslam wrote:
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On July 12 2014 10:15 OnceKing wrote:
if you are town you should be helping us get our shit together and convincing me not to vote you
you have now withheld judgment on eden and myself because we are on different teams. why?
your vote is currently on robik's team. why?
who do you think is mafia? why?

This is what is told to every mislynch by his tunnel- go read my link and learn how to cuss!

On July 12 2014 15:10 Alakaslam wrote:
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On July 12 2014 15:07 OnceKing wrote:
slender: yup! i more or less buy it. waiting on harubear response

slam: want to answer the questions i asked you earlier now?

Hell fucking no I have nothing but acid and jackassery for this town.

Look at my re-entrance to this thread in the 40's and if your answers to how I was treated and my corresponding attitude aren't there well you don't want to determine alignments you just want to witch hunt- what we call "scum hunting" here but really isn't, because actually determining alignment is far more important than trying to decide on some lynch.

On July 13 2014 00:58 Alakaslam wrote:
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On July 13 2014 00:53 Koshi wrote:
When is the lynch? It's long right?

Idgaf you are all so blind and tunneled it is poimtless and has been once my actual content was ignored
[/i][/i]

like seriously you can't just insist that links are "bullshit" and "witchhunting" without explaining how, you can't just say "oh it takes half a brain to realize he's scum" without explaining why and sqrt contradicting himself multiple times is handwaved with "sqrt is wifoming himself".
it's just a bunch of buzzwords and you never get an explanation for anything specific, even though i asked multiple times.

also note this which i just pulled out of sqrt's filter while scrolling down:
On July 12 2014 04:49 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
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On July 12 2014 04:48 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On July 12 2014 04:44 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
On July 12 2014 04:43 OnceKing wrote:
except for the part where i'm not lurking and your assertion that i wasn't doing much is completely ~Fraudulent~

also both of us asking about robik means... what exactly? that we want to know about robik? god forbid

That maybe you're mafia, and you wanna kill him.

Why are you viewing robik as town?

Also, what do you think of ExOs reads?

If I'm not mistaken you said you didn't like them, and said they seemed fabricated.

Robik is crazy. He might be town.

And yep.

how the fuck do you think ExO is fabricating reads, and then call the slot town. PLEASE TELL ME.
as also noted by eden's post counting upthread they had somewhere in the neighborhood of a hundred posts this game and yet haven't said anything helpful.
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
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July 12 2014 17:39 GMT
#1158
On July 13 2014 02:35 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Glowingbear's team town.
M&M town.
Robik/exo scum.
The other scum is probably either palmar's team or eden's team.

j u s t i f y
y o u r
r e s p o n s e
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OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 12 2014 18:00 GMT
#1172
if eden is mafia then you should explain to me, who is town by your own admission, why
you should also explain why harubear is town to me, who is town
you should ALSO explain why robik and exo are scum to me, who is town
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
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July 12 2014 18:03 GMT
#1175
On July 13 2014 03:00 OnceKing wrote:
if eden is mafia then you should explain to me, who is town by your own admission, why
you should also explain why harubear is town to me, who is town
you should ALSO explain why robik and exo are scum to me, who is town

"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
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July 12 2014 18:07 GMT
#1178
On July 13 2014 03:03 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
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On July 13 2014 03:00 OnceKing wrote:
if eden is mafia then you should explain to me, who is town by your own admission, why
you should also explain why harubear is town to me, who is town
you should ALSO explain why robik and exo are scum to me, who is town

Figure it out yourself. If you're town.

do you think i'm town?
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OnceKing
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July 12 2014 18:35 GMT
#1198
On July 13 2014 03:28 HaruRH wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Team TheD

haru pls explain
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OnceKing
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July 12 2014 19:19 GMT
#1213
bunnies, do you think slamroot is a mislynch?
i'm not discounting other wagons but you'll need to do a lot of work to show me why you think chairman koshi is a better lynch than slamroot. I got some pretty heavy townie vibes from CR before.
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OnceKing
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July 12 2014 20:16 GMT
#1219
but didn't Koshi enter the thread with reads lol
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OnceKing
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July 12 2014 20:22 GMT
#1221
On July 13 2014 05:15 27ninjabunnies wrote:
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On July 13 2014 04:19 OnceKing wrote:
bunnies, do you think slamroot is a mislynch?
i'm not discounting other wagons but you'll need to do a lot of work to show me why you think chairman koshi is a better lynch than slamroot. I got some pretty heavy townie vibes from CR before.


I do. I've seen Slam get mad as town when he was about to get mislynched. And it seems he is getting mad this game.

I've also never seen slam give up. He has fought to the death as town, so I admit, that slows me down a bit on my townread.

But I also see no one really defending them. Some have said "eh well, maybe they are town" and seem wishy washy.

Idk, to me it seems if they were mafia, why would their mafia scummate want them lynched day 1? Unless they really think they can win this game by themselves. I just don't see it.

What about CRs post seemed townie to you?

tbh i think its impossible for anyone to defend slamroot at this point. if you look at the way they're posting there's no way it can come from a town pov. I don't think him getting mad is indicative of anything -- if I'm about to get lynched I'll be mad about it regardless of my alignment.

imo it's not a matter of wanting them to get lynched, it's the fact that they can't stop it.

i could be wrong but i highly doubt it.

I got a town read off of CR's entrance into the game. the first thing he did upon getting into the game was to antagonize someone.
... I dunno it's hard for me to explain. I guess I'll have to take a closer look, it's just that for the brief period of time I followed Order immediately upon reading CR's posts I was just like well im not reading this shit he's typing enormous blocks of text. And I haven't gotten the same feeling from him this game.
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 12 2014 21:02 GMT
#1239
what makes you think i'm mafia if slamroot is town
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 12 2014 21:13 GMT
#1250
except for the part where i was on sqrt before either of you
and except for the part where eden followed me off of bunnies and onto you

but anyway that's not the point
eden is certainly town and i'm sure he'll say the same about me. we know each other in person, and the only times we're on the same wavelength like this is when we're both town. look and see how many times we've xposted each other with similar/same thoughts.
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 12 2014 21:19 GMT
#1252
slamroot is like almost 100% mafia
can you point out any meaningful content that either of them has said
the closest they come to it is spouting unjustified reads like "eden is mafia, exo is mafia" and they won't answer questions as to why. and yet even though they believe in an edenkarma/iamexo scumteam they don't think i'm town? there are too many inconsistencies.

in fact they have so many posts and yet have practically said nothing and just invite people into meaningless exchanges.
the only reason why people are scared to lynch them right now is because "ohhh well its slam so i dont think its that scummy" or "b-b-but people aren't defending them" -- stop that. if you're mafia with these guys the way they're acting do you actually think you can defend them? and slam has been acting scummy even compared to his usual standard as noted by robik earlier with meta references.

there's just no way they can be town with the whole "i give up, nobody listens to my scumreads even though i haven't justified them, this is a mislynch" stuff.
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 12 2014 21:20 GMT
#1253
On July 13 2014 06:14 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2014 06:13 OnceKing wrote:
except for the part where i was on sqrt before either of you
and except for the part where eden followed me off of bunnies and onto you

but anyway that's not the point
eden is certainly town and i'm sure he'll say the same about me. we know each other in person, and the only times we're on the same wavelength like this is when we're both town. look and see how many times we've xposted each other with similar/same thoughts.

Except that game where he was town and you were mafia with me and he kept calling you town

we weren't on the same wavelength/didn't have corresponding thoughts that game. look how much we disagreed or had different positions that game and the timings compared to this game.
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 12 2014 21:59 GMT
#1264
frankly i don't buy either the defense of slam or the case on chairman koshi
bunnies did you do as koshi asked and examine the games in which he's town and replaced in?
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 12 2014 22:08 GMT
#1274
On July 13 2014 07:05 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2014 06:59 TheSlenderMan wrote:
bunnies, where did you 'explain why slamroot is Town'? As for the CR/Koshi-case, no way I see a meta-case being stronger than slamroot's antics at this point. :D

Haru please (also) explain the questions I raised in my posts -- you can find them from my filter quite easily.


Look at the post above this question you asked. Eden quoted it.

It's mostly to do with the fact there's not really much a defense. Plus, slam as mafia wouldn't just give up imo.

Sqrt, eh. I read him wrong often, and have pushed mislynches on him cause he never evaluates on his reads unless asked specifically.

i have asked sqrt and slam BOTH to justify their reads and they've both flat out refused. in what way do you think scum partners of slamroot could possibly defend them?
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 12 2014 22:10 GMT
#1281
On July 13 2014 07:08 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Also, if Slamroot flips town, tell me, what information will we gain from it?

honestly? i have no idea
i'd just do normal looking at vote counts and stuff.
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 12 2014 22:14 GMT
#1284
Sqrt says Eden and robik are scum
Slam Says Eden and I are scum phone posting again cuz my computer turned itself off
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 12 2014 22:18 GMT
#1287
Okay look
Here is why Eden and I make zero sense as scum partners
Why would we as mafia put all of our eggs into one basket especially so early on day 1
It's almost add if people believe that we went in scum chat and was like

Hey Eden... Scumbuddy... Let's say the exact same things in the thread... Yeah the exact same thing... They'll never see it coming

And yet we're agreeing so closely on everything that there's no way only one of us is scum
So he's town and I am too

If you trust Eden you should trust me and vice versa
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 12 2014 22:21 GMT
#1290
I have no clue where sinani or goodkarma are but it doesn't concern me since they're both town
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OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 12 2014 22:27 GMT
#1304
palmar please describe more in depth what you're saying about marvderg, and read nb's posts about chairman koshi/offer input on that

right now i have a few town reads i'm pretty confident in, slamroot i'm pretty sure is scum and only a few more holes to fill
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 12 2014 22:29 GMT
#1305
On July 13 2014 07:27 IAmRobik wrote:
Timeline of events:

6:30 Eden write this case on sqrt-1:

Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 06:30 Eden1892 wrote:
On July 12 2014 01:16 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
On July 12 2014 00:57 IAmRobik wrote:
TOWNIEST POST IN THE MOTHA FUCKIN THREAD. THIS GUY IS SO FUCKING BRUTALLY TOWN. IF ANYONE VOTES TO LYNCH HIM, YOU WILL FACE MY WRATH

On July 12 2014 00:54 ExO_ wrote:
Some thoughts:

Team D-

I tend to have weird hours that I can be on, and I'm not just reading the TL forums 24/7, so while I can't always be as active as robik saying I'm not doing anything now isn't really giving me a fair shake in my opinion (@27ninjabunnies).

Every game I've seen 27nb in she goes around being very caustic and arrogant towards some people, and very nice to others. It seems to be regardless of her alignment. I find it to be unhelpful, as she goes off on tangents with wild accusations filled with bullshit reasoning for scum reads.

What this means in terms of the game is it's hard for me to read her as mafia or town. But I think she does more to cause problems in a town, than actually help with finding scum and uniting the town players.

Poofter isn't saying much and is kinda letting her get out in front. I don't know how to interpret that, but in World Cup poofter stayed kinda quiet until it came time to push me in the wrong directions. Nearly worked too .

So a null read on the team but I generally think constantly creating a toxic atmosphere for the town is a bad thing even if they are town.

Team Whine
Slam is posting a fuck ton of 1 liners/pictures/general nonsense (hijole?) and sqrtofneg1 is saying nothing at all. In larger games I think mafia lurking works better than in a smaller game such as this, but it's almost nothing to read off of. Will have to wait to see what they vote day 1 and what happens night 1 to really know what to think of them.

Team VendettaStrada
I'm not sure if they're both posting from the same account, but it looks like it's all raynpelioneet. In my limited experience here I haven't seen him before, and though he hasn't posted a fuck ton of stuff, seems townish it to me. Looks like he's contributing.

Team needs a lawyer
I always kinda read HaruRH scummy, he has a little bit of omgus going on, but I miss read him in world cup so it gives me pause. So I look over at glowing bear, and he hasn't said a whole lot either. Just got caught up in the Kenpachi business. But doesn't really read town to me. I lean scum here, but I'm hesitant.

Team Magic Carpet
Not a lot of posts from straightform just asking questions "Robik why won't u post?, Why would exo/robik not posting Day 1 not be bad for town" etc... Palmar calls out team lawyer for not posting anything of value, but I see very little of value from him at all. After reading his filter i think Palmar is the most scummy looking person so far in the thread.
*scum read*

Team GoodCornBadCorn
Completely afk. Like 1 combined other than their /in posts. like what....? Do they not know the game is happening? No reads yet for obvious reasons

Team Crotch Rocket
Not a lot being said from good Karma. Eden is posting quite a bit, and seems okay. I don't think mafia are going to be quite as active as eden is being, but it could be good coaching happening. Town read for now though

Team Fraud walRus
Sinani saying hardly anything, OnceKing's vote on our team I think is bad: it's based on robik not playing the game, when robik has been pretty active. Hasn't really expanded on any reads and got pretty caught up in ol' kenpachi but I don't get a scum vibe from him. Null read

Team M squared
mderg hasn't said too much, but I've generally liked and agreed with what marv has to say. I think Town


So that leaves me with

Town
M squared
Vendetta Strata (aka how can I make a parody of that team name)
Rocket Crotch


Null
D-
Whine*
Goodcornbadcorn*
Fraud walRus

Scum
Lawyer
Magic Carpet

*Mostly afk


Unfortunately, I think I shall cast some doubt on this post.
Some of these town reads are kind of fishy.
Ex:

Not a lot being said from good Karma. Eden is posting quite a bit, and seems okay. I don't think mafia are going to be quite as active as eden is being, but it could be good coaching happening. Town read for now though
Not my cup of tea.
Or this one

I'm not sure if they're both posting from the same account, but it looks like it's all raynpelioneet. In my limited experience here I haven't seen him before, and though he hasn't posted a fuck ton of stuff, seems townish it to me. Looks like he's contributing.

I'm not so sure he's town. But the post is definitely the best post so far. But some of these reads seem fabricated.
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still catching up but lynch this guy. rofl.

"Unfortunately, I think I shall cast some doubt on this post."
"I'm not so sure he's town. But the post is definitely the best post so far. But some of these reads seem fabricated."

you're joking right
1. townies don't "cast doubt" on posts. if they think posts are bad or scummy they question them and press further or just outright build a case. if they think it's good they don't bother addressing them unless they need to in order to steer discussion in the desired direction. none of these describe sqrt's post, he says this is the best post but then equivocates on the poster's town status and doesn't dig into it further.
2. how is it the best post if the reads seem fabricated lmao that makes no sense


6:38 Eden confirms his vote on sqrt

Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 06:38 Eden1892 wrote:
ok i'm on page 40

everybody shut the fuck up about robik he's town this is a waste

bunnies is not toxic to the thread, her questions might not always be going places and her spat with robik or whoever tf back in the 30s was silly but it doesn't matter because she is also town

we're lynching sqrt today, god bless america

someone read the post i highlighted in response to exo's reads and tell me how it isn't scum-motivated


Meanwhile, Robik is making a post, where point 4 calls sqrt-1 scum.

Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 06:39 IAmRobik wrote:
On July 12 2014 06:36 Koshi wrote:
On July 12 2014 06:34 IAmRobik wrote:
Hi Koshi,

I think we should IML marv before he gets a chance to really take control of town and give good insight. Thoughts?

People are scumreading marv? Damn. This will be epic. Need to catch up.

I don't think so. I think I just like the idea of getting rid of potentially useful players.

Now that I'm done being an annoying dick, I'm leaving work soon but would love to get your opinions on 1) my annoying posts -- all of them 2) my teammate's reads 3) plammmmmar and his teammate 4) the scum formerly known as mathematical equation i.


6:39, Robik sees Eden's post and makes the remark that we just crossposted.
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 06:39 IAmRobik wrote:
On July 12 2014 06:38 Eden1892 wrote:
ok i'm on page 40

everybody shut the fuck up about robik he's town this is a waste

bunnies is not toxic to the thread, her questions might not always be going places and her spat with robik or whoever tf back in the 30s was silly but it doesn't matter because she is also town

we're lynching sqrt today, god bless america

someone read the post i highlighted in response to exo's reads and tell me how it isn't scum-motivated

Do you like crossposting with me?



6:48 OK makes a post SUMMARIZING WHAT EDEN SAID.
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 06:48 OnceKing wrote:
from sqrt's post that eden quoted:

I'm not so sure he's town. But the post is definitely the best post so far. But some of these reads seem fabricated.


hahahahaha


If that's not backpacking, I don't know what is.
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/461355-team-melee-mini-mafia-v-newbies-and-vets?page=42#832
i am pretty sure this post precedes any of those others
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OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 13 2014 00:04 GMT
#1329
I haven't discounted the possibility of a nb scum yet but I'm not seeing it atm
This being said you're tunnel is unreal
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 13 2014 00:04 GMT
#1330
Your*
Fuck autocorrect
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 13 2014 00:18 GMT
#1350
You know
Palmar and robik might be onto something...
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 13 2014 00:21 GMT
#1355
The case you have on koshi and Ray I dislike add we've already discussed
I feel like you've overreacted to palmar a bit and out of the million questions you say you could ask you pick three that he's already answered

Interesting...
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 13 2014 00:42 GMT
#1362
On July 13 2014 09:40 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2014 09:21 OnceKing wrote:
The case you have on koshi and Ray I dislike add we've already discussed
I feel like you've overreacted to palmar a bit and out of the million questions you say you could ask you pick three that he's already answered

Interesting...


I don't remember him really answeing these.
If he has, I've completely missed them.

Also, seriously. Whoever is reading me as scum, you're wrong.

And that wasn't overreacting. If anything he was overreacting and reading completely wrong the things I've post.

Go back and read his post and tell me
1. What he thinks of the lynch
2. Who he thinks is scum
3. Whatever your other question is
I'm quite sure he's answered them all and even recently in fact
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 13 2014 00:46 GMT
#1369
Well either way he's answered the questions... Contrary to your assertions
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 13 2014 02:01 GMT
#1394
What the Fuck
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 13 2014 02:04 GMT
#1399
Ya bunnies looks worse now imo
Out for a while cya later
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 13 2014 06:34 GMT
#1413
i'm available for an hour or so if anyone wants to ask me questions
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 13 2014 07:18 GMT
#1415
outliers - Slamroot, Harubear, poofbunnies

i really wish sqrt would have explained his vote on IAmExO before instead of just saying "they're scum"

bunnies bothers me because i feel that her case on Chairman Koshi is weak, and the arguments for why Slamroot were town weren't good either (though obviously there must have been some merit to them because it was a ML). honestly the reason why i find her more suspicious now is because out of everyone somehow she's the only one who seemed to know it was an incoming ML.
put more clearly, in the wise words of wherebugsgo:
You're not scum because you're right. You're scum because you were right when no one else was.

i think this used to be someone's sig lol
and indeed you can see this is the case: 7 people, an overwhelming majority voted on Slamroot.

harubear - feeling town. i know slenderman had a thing on this team and honestly the contradiction stuff does bother me. but i can see the posts from a town perspective... or at least your filters make sense to me.

so that leaves us the main wagon.


currently it's hard for me to say how many people honestly sheeped the case on Slamroot versus scum bandwagoning a ML. marvderg i would like to hear more from.
i'd like to hear from palmar why he figured that it would be a ML.
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 13 2014 16:59 GMT
#1444
Ok yah we are never lunching chairman kosher
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 13 2014 17:29 GMT
#1446
hmm
maybe

why you say so?
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 13 2014 17:36 GMT
#1450
guys he's lost me
i have no idea who wrestlemania is

u think it matters that robik swap his vote at last second when the vote change didnt make difference in lynch?
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 13 2014 17:49 GMT
#1456
speaking of which...

paging bunnies
tell me, for this mislynch
1. who pushed hardest (and how hard was that)
2. who defended hardest (and how hard was that)
3. who just sheeped
4. what does this tell you
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 13 2014 18:13 GMT
#1477
i like you eden
but i'm sure you already knew that because we are LOUISIANA VOLTRON MASONs.
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 13 2014 23:28 GMT
#1503
i dont understand the false dichotomy robik plz explain
why "if you dont back off me i must lynch you even though i think you are town"
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 14 2014 01:23 GMT
#1533
i am waffling so hard right now
do not lunch: me, eden, chairman kosher, palmiform, harubear

harubear has moved up into my town circle cuz everything they say feels really genuine to me.
the same kind of thing has me waffling on bunnies (i hate that there's no good portmanteau of your names btw)
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 14 2014 01:30 GMT
#1535
On July 13 2014 20:30 marvellosity wrote:
all caught up. kinda weird game. GK and sinani are being totally carried by their better halves.

Palmar (as per above) and Stratiform look ok to me (stratiform's reads post kinda had everywhere about where i'd expect, didn't seem fabricate-y).

Robik/Exo look ok I guess.

rayn/slendy, koshi/cr, bunnies/poof.
rayn/slendy look worse to me simply by virtue of the fact i'm going off haru/glowingbear, and if we take that out of their filter they've done next to nothing.
koshi especially will have all day 2 to look town, if he's town he'll be able to do it, if he's mafia he probably won't. sit and see.
bunnies is being dragged way down by poofter, who has little redeeming about his play. hate the lazy palmar/me comment that i pointed out. the points OK made about bunnies on the last page are pretty valid as well.

marv can you explain to me why this makes sense?
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 14 2014 01:33 GMT
#1537
i'll clarify a bit
i don't see why you should exclude raynman's case on harubear at all, especially when they originated the second one (the first one being originated by palmar i think)
and jsut cause you're no longer on them doesn't invalidate their contribution

so i'm not sure what's going on here sounds like a weird reason

like i would totally understand "he's scumreading my townread, that's weird"
but i dont understand "he's scumreading someone i no longer scumread, if i remove his scumread from what he's said then he looks bad"
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 14 2014 01:40 GMT
#1539
ur gonna hate me slender
but what it really comes down to is ~vibes~
i can just feel earnestness and trying to answer everything and be completely open pouring out of their posts
so even though i may not agree with everything they write i still feel as if they're being completely open and honest about a thought process that seems really townie to me

so i think theyre town
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 14 2014 01:49 GMT
#1544
i have no idea about robik's meta unfortunately
i'll have to read ExO, i had robik town for most of day 1 so i had ExO town by extension
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 14 2014 01:57 GMT
#1546
605 - i remember having similar misgivings about this post where i felt like all the reads he gave were null
but it was pretty early on so i don't put that much weight on it
1091 - don't really see this as fencesitting tbh
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 14 2014 01:58 GMT
#1548
oops pressed enter too fast
overall i could lunch them... i actually think what eden said earlier about robik greenlighting the slamroot lynch then whining about it holds a lot of water and i'm not very convinced by robik's "Back the fuck off" defense

still some people said hes not a heavy d1 poster so on d2 i expect tidings
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 14 2014 01:59 GMT
#1549
firebats
firebats everywhere
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 14 2014 02:01 GMT
#1553
oh look
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 14 2014 02:02 GMT
#1554
maybe there's more water in the harubear case than i thought
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 14 2014 02:07 GMT
#1559
On July 14 2014 11:05 Eden1892 wrote:
fuck it

##VOTE: TheD

pls explain
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 14 2014 02:15 GMT
#1562
is dat slamroot

ok no seriously pls explain
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 14 2014 02:56 GMT
#1576
i agree with my other head on rayn more or less (he did give marv a town read way back)
on slenderman i disagree though, i think hes done ok

which is why im waffly on raynman
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 14 2014 03:07 GMT
#1578
tell me about koshi. i have a town read on him atm.
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 14 2014 03:28 GMT
#1581
i rather like his catchup one-liners, and his play is different from what i remember from normal mini lvi.

is what i was going to say but after checking his filter he's only got three pages and marv said he's typically a high volume poster in normal mini lvi's postgame.
so maybe not let me check
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 14 2014 03:50 GMT
#1586
okay i have pleasantly reorganized all of my opinions on players into the following list feel free to ask me any questions

town - frauds, eden+gk, harubear
posting things/memorable - robik, bunnies, slenderman
not posting things/unmemorable - exo, chairman koshi, rayn, poof

teams that make me waffly - bunnies/poof, robik/exo, slender/rayn

on my first readthrough i got a distinct impression of koshi being town from his one liners on catching up. because marv wrote in normal mini lvi's postgame that koshi's a high volume poster as town, when i first read the posts i automatically assumed that koshi was being higher volume.

however it turns out that koshi is far from being high volume this game. his filter is only 3 pages and there's not that much in there -- he's called lots of people town and agreed with stuff but hasn't called anyone scum.
CR's filter is less than one page long, and has only the stratiform case, and this statement:
Bunnies is mafia. Her cases before the flip were a little too interesting.


there's no explanation of how they're interesting. i don't even know what 'interesting' means in this context.
##Vote: Team GoodCopBadCop
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 14 2014 04:05 GMT
#1588
just read through each of our filters exo
you can ask me any questions or whatever and tell me why you find me so suspicious
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 14 2014 06:05 GMT
#1596
robik tell me about bunnies
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 14 2014 06:19 GMT
#1610
wait
so poof
robik has or hasn't misread you?
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 14 2014 06:24 GMT
#1614
for reference here is the marv post about koshi meta that i'm referring to:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/458796-normal-mini-mafia-lvi?page=91#1805
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 14 2014 16:08 GMT
#1657
koshi has an interesting case on harubear and i'll probably reevaluate them.

gk - who do you think would fear vets waking up and solving the game the most?
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 14 2014 18:16 GMT
#1670
Koshi, can I get your opinion on slenderman and rayn?
bunnies if you have a submarine why isn't it setting sail? (or whatever it is that submarines do)
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 14 2014 18:42 GMT
#1686
rayn - es very simple
eden is absolutely town goodkarma is his hydra
i am absolutely town sinani is my hydra

i realize this probably doesn't comfort you very much wrt sinani
but eden and i are both absolutely town

so what are your up to date conclusions on people?
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 14 2014 19:12 GMT
#1699
the easiest way i have to explain why eden is town is on a meta thing.
basically, eden and i know each other irl and we play mafia together quite a bit. we have VERY extensive experience with each other, having talked about the game a lot.
he was completely on the same wavelength as me for like, all of day 1. I know it sounds really dumb but he basically confirmed himself town to me when he pulled Kenpachi Rule on poofter and I confirmed myself town to him when I sheeped it upon checking in.

if you dislike that explanation then think about it this way:
1. We've crossposted like a zillion times already in this game so we're clearly sharing the same thoughts. So it's overwhelmingly likely we're of the same alignment.
2. It doesn't make sense for two mafia members to be saying the exact same things.
so by this we can only both be town.

as for the overexplaining stuff, can you point out where? because I'm pretty sure he's just saying whatever he feels he needs to say to get his targets lynched.


goodkarma's post:
if i had to take a guess it would be that he takes a perspective where he would lynch someone he assumes to be a townie.
but i don't see why this is super relevant since Eden town = goodkarma town = I don't really care
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 14 2014 20:23 GMT
#1715
rayn -
it's just a simple process of elimination for the consideration of people who don't have the privilege of "knowing" our alignment.
if we can only be the same alignment then we must be mafia/mafia or town/own. since we definitely aren't mafia/mafia then we must be town/town.

i wanna say who's posting first is pretty flexible. by crossposting i mean literally we'll ninja each other while the other is posting the exact same thing. it's actually kind of scary.

i'll look through your filter for the overexplaining stuff.

can you address robik's assertion that you and slenderman are extremely likely to have NKed marvderg and palmiform?
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 14 2014 20:26 GMT
#1718
(please do quote the posts anyway in case i'm not sure what you're referring to lul)
(or better yet push a scumread)
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 14 2014 20:37 GMT
#1728
On July 15 2014 05:27 IAmRobik wrote:
I have really really really selfish reasons for thinking Rayn is town. I cannot prove this assertion, but


Rayn, do not read this, you'll think I'm cheating:
+ Show Spoiler +
i'm willing to risk my life on it

hahahaha
uhhhh


oh boy i gotta look this up
this game might have gotten a lot easier
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OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 14 2014 20:41 GMT
#1732
On July 15 2014 05:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2014 05:11 Tehpoofter wrote:
On July 15 2014 00:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On July 15 2014 00:28 Koshi wrote:
I AM STILL SENIOR

Shush kiddo, it's almost bedtime. Adults are playing now.
Hello everyone. I haven't read anything yet. Any important issues ongoing?


ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

This post. Made my entire day. Artanis if your scum let me know I'll maf side just for this post Koshi join #wrekt.


Also pretty much we lynched slam/sqrt for being quitters sorta. Then they killed Palmer/Marv and Robik wnats to kill me but wnats ExO to say it. Eden is probably the most town around. As of now both of your cell has been replaced so thats fun.

You going to read it all or just start from here?

I'm just going to start from here, listen to what Koshi has to say then sheep if it makes sense, meanwhile prodding people and get some interactions going with people to get my own reads going.

Can you tell me how the lynch on Slam/sqrt came into motion?

cliffnotes on slamroot:
1. sqrt said eden was town from meta
2. then he said eden was mafia from meta
3. marv asked him if he were on drugs
4. i also looked at sqrt funny. didn't like his explanation.
5. i voted sqrt (WAGON STARTS HERE)
6. slam came in asked why they were being lynched. said the explanation was just bull.
7. i asked slamroot to justify their reads and they refused, then said they gave up with over 24 hours remaining in the day.
8. bunnies pulled off the slamroot lynch
9. slamroot flips town
10. i am upset

why sheep koshi specifically?
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 14 2014 21:13 GMT
#1748
Robik Eden and I are LOUISIANA VOLTRON MASONS so we are one and the same
In any case it's not as if I didn't make a case on him as well so idk where you're getting off

Stand yes I found bunnies reasons for pulling off the wagon sketch and not very strong so I am more suspicious of her slot than I was day 1
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 14 2014 21:14 GMT
#1750
Artanis* gg phone autocorrect
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 14 2014 21:18 GMT
#1752
No I was addressing him
He was upset I was taking credit for doing stuff
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 14 2014 21:20 GMT
#1755
Honestly though I townread harubear based on tone and meta the first thing the nks suggest to me is that they're scum
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 14 2014 21:23 GMT
#1759
Why the Fuck did I type meta I meant gut
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 14 2014 21:24 GMT
#1761
Stop that bunnies
Neither Eden nor myself is mafia
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 14 2014 21:26 GMT
#1763
Robik or bunnies please show me how nk analysis indicates raynman are guilty
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 14 2014 21:30 GMT
#1768
Right now I kinda want to sheep robik and palmar's dead body and kill bunnies but I haven't gotten enough out of kosher and Artanis yet
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 14 2014 21:38 GMT
#1777
Whaddya mean they're bad
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 14 2014 21:48 GMT
#1782
Bunnies when you get back explain why you are tinfoiling on Eden and me please
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 15 2014 00:07 GMT
#1813
gb did you ever explain why rayn's posting is confirming your suspicions of slender? they actually make me feel better about him

human beings in a mob man...
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 15 2014 00:13 GMT
#1817
On July 15 2014 09:10 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2014 09:07 OnceKing wrote:
gb did you ever explain why rayn's posting is confirming your suspicions of slender? they actually make me feel better about him

human beings in a mob man...

Show nested quote +
OnceKing

whats a mob to a king

whats a king to a god
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 15 2014 03:54 GMT
#1839
Haru -
about rayn: how did you get that tl;dr... ya the palmar town thing i get (not that THAT helps, we already know that)
but where did you get this from:
Robik is stupid
CR is town/learnt to play mafia
Eden not scum (unless we are scum)


actually good catch though that rayn said nothing about you guys in that whole post then suddenly called you guys mafia. however slendy had been talking about you guys for quite a while.

about koshi: disagree wholly
at that point i honestly could not have told you who i thought glowingbear believed to be mafia.
and just because it's on one head of the hydra doesn't make it invalid.

speaking of wihch i need to unvote them...
##unvote
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 15 2014 04:10 GMT
#1840
On July 15 2014 06:48 OnceKing wrote:
Bunnies when you get back explain why you are tinfoiling on Eden and me please


On July 15 2014 09:07 OnceKing wrote:
gb did you ever explain why rayn's posting is confirming your suspicions of slender? they actually make me feel better about him

human beings in a mob man...


these two questions need answering
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 15 2014 04:39 GMT
#1842
i have
nowhere does it say "robik is stupid"
he also just says CR is town, never any caveat about "learned to play mafia"
also just says Eden is probably fine, nothing about an unflipped association between you two

so where did you get these conclusions from?
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 15 2014 05:52 GMT
#1844
i'm pretty sure that was just catchup thoughts and those impressions are not current


well, maybe the robik is stupid impression is current. rayn should answer this.
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 15 2014 15:40 GMT
#1872
On July 16 2014 00:11 sinani206 wrote:
Oh just checked qt and ok said that he didn't agree with me because they have been at each others throats the whole game. But honestly I could see that being the scum strategy in a game like this. It was what I initially noticed that led me to filter them at all.

please explain specifically. i think it's tantamount to suicide for the two scummers to be trying to kill each other the whole time when eden and i confirmed each other town ten minutes into the game.
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 15 2014 19:37 GMT
#1902
welp... i'm going to sheep my strong townread instead of my hydra

i definitely havent done jack shit this day. just keep flip flopping on stuff so i'll trust in eden who trusts in robik.
##Vote: TheD

i'm around to answer any questions now
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 15 2014 20:16 GMT
#1907
why be wary of eden if he's proably town
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 15 2014 22:16 GMT
#1939
##unvote
##Vote: Team WeDemandALawyer
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 15 2014 22:25 GMT
#1947
I trust my other hydra head. I think bunnies and poof are being really genuine.
What's swung my opinion on Harubear:
Haru's case on Koshi really made no sense at all. I'm not even sure if it was a case or a refutation. In any case it didn't really refute anything.
Glowingbear I did feel was being a lot more genuine. Thanks to poof's defense I actually went to check his newbie game.

You know his filter in that game is thirteen fuckin pages? His filter in this game is three. He's being much more clinical in this game like poofter said, and his only posts this game are to either defend himself or push a lynch compared to the other game where he's much more willing to engage topically in conversation, asking questions, etc. This game there's a decided lack of that, and almost every post he makes is a brick of text.

This is exactly how my first games as scum have gone -- as scum in the past I've tried to be meticulous, contributing, confident... everything I ascribe to a "perfect townie". There's utterly no waffling or wobbling or looking like they're trying to figure things out in Harubear's filters, just complete assurance.

And the filter length thing is REALLY getting me.
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 15 2014 22:30 GMT
#1952
like when I play scum I want to be a model fuckin' townie. I wanna be aggressive, confident and look at all this good stuff I'm doing here, look at my nice cases, I'm contributing so much.
I know this game isn't that easy to be able to be acting that this way. I'm town, I'm waffling so much I've got eggos spilling out of my ass and even Eden who is one of the most self-assured people I know has flip flopped on his opinions a few times.

Literally everyone looks unsure of everyone and everything, I was completely thrown off by slamroot flipping town -- I know this was like FOREVER ago but I was just SO GODDAMNED SURE they had to be scum. Then marvderg and palmiform went and died too -- as far as I'm understanding the only reason why people are saying that implicates rayn is because "older players will fear older players". If that's the case then why doesn't it say anything about Koshi.
I find it far simpler and more likely that marvderg and palmiform were both looking at Harubear pretty funny so they died for it. Them being vets and therefore persuasive players probably helped too. I know people look at this kind of thing and go "oh its night kill analysis, its wifom" but I personally never see a scumteam waver to kill someone they know will be trying to completely murder them the next day.
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 15 2014 22:36 GMT
#1957
as for people tinfoiling on me -- I guess I can understand it because I've been totally indecisive and basically invisible today. I'm not blaming him but Robik's "bunnies can post a lot as mafia, poof being afk is his scum meta~" thing was slowly eating into me all day.

but I read poof's defense and something inside me was just like holy shit he's town and then something else clicked when he said gb was being really professional and distant.

anyway I've digressed
My day 1 was super fuckin' towny no matter what people say about me supposedly just buddying or backpacking. I led the initiative just as much as anyone else on that day and I've just been confused this whole goddamn day. I dunno, I guess I'll accept the paranoia for now and just try to prove my innocence even harder. (doesn't hurt that Eden's my brotha and he got my back)
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 15 2014 22:39 GMT
#1961
ya sinani hasn't typed much and that's partially my fault
I don't really bother him in our QT to post a lot, I just occasionally ask him to read people and tell me what he thinks. Part of me figured that was fine cause I was talking a lot.
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 15 2014 22:44 GMT
#1965
On July 16 2014 07:37 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2014 07:30 OnceKing wrote:
like when I play scum I want to be a model fuckin' townie. I wanna be aggressive, confident and look at all this good stuff I'm doing here, look at my nice cases, I'm contributing so much.
I know this game isn't that easy to be able to be acting that this way. I'm town, I'm waffling so much I've got eggos spilling out of my ass and even Eden who is one of the most self-assured people I know has flip flopped on his opinions a few times.

Literally everyone looks unsure of everyone and everything, I was completely thrown off by slamroot flipping town -- I know this was like FOREVER ago but I was just SO GODDAMNED SURE they had to be scum. Then marvderg and palmiform went and died too -- as far as I'm understanding the only reason why people are saying that implicates rayn is because "older players will fear older players". If that's the case then why doesn't it say anything about Koshi.
I find it far simpler and more likely that marvderg and palmiform were both looking at Harubear pretty funny so they died for it. Them being vets and therefore persuasive players probably helped too. I know people look at this kind of thing and go "oh its night kill analysis, its wifom" but I personally never see a scumteam waver to kill someone they know will be trying to completely murder them the next day.


You guys know nuts about my scum play lol. I only like being scum, not being this useless town I am. I literally will go hells blazin' for my scum play. I hate being useless as scum. If you guys seriously think we are scum, then you're all fucking wrong. Put your vote back on poofter/nb. I don't believe a few paragraphs of reads can change all your reads.

Artanis, ever heard of this term 'time zone'? Its 6am where I am now. I replied to you at 5am, then went back to 'sleep'.

I'm not talking about your scum play. I don't even pretend to know your scum play. All I know is that the posts I remember from you are a million words on Rayn and a something on Koshi that doesn't make sense.
And trying to let gb take the reins and then you stepping up to clean up his shit which you not only never mentioned before or hinted at at all but failed to do because those were the first posts that made me look at your team funny.

And those paragraphs can definitely change my mind. I've been on the fence the whole day, that shit was so townie it made something click in my mind. It's almost as if you haven't even read my post because I'm not talking about your scum game there, I'm talking about glowingbear's distinctive not-his-town game. Also it didn't change "all of my reads"
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 15 2014 22:45 GMT
#1967
where the fuck has poofter ever said he thinks I'm mafia but not LOL
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 15 2014 22:46 GMT
#1969
CHINESE FIREDRILL LETS GO
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OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 15 2014 22:50 GMT
#1976
i'm not saying it's alignment indicative otherwise I'd be on Robik's ass too.
i'm saying that's awfully convenient for you now.

i DID point out things i didn't like. i told you entirely what i thought of the rayn/koshi stuff, you showed me the rayn stuff which he was presumably typing as he was catching up yet you presented as if they were his current impressions and didn't address or attempt to reinforce the koshi case at all even though i told you i disagreed wholly.
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 15 2014 22:57 GMT
#1983
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/461355-team-melee-mini-mafia-v-newbies-and-vets?page=92#1839
never talked about the koshi thing again

--

if you have been giving gb the reins as town then why isn't gb posting as he did as a townie in newbie lvi
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 15 2014 23:18 GMT
#1999
On July 16 2014 08:17 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2014 07:45 OnceKing wrote:
where the fuck has poofter ever said he thinks I'm mafia but not LOL


I said you are conspiracy mafia in my reads.

yeah so that's just mafia right
not "OK is mafia but not"
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 15 2014 23:39 GMT
#2030
ugggggggggggggggggggggg
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 15 2014 23:41 GMT
#2034
##Vote: TheD
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OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 00:07 GMT
#2080
CONSPIRACY THEORIES
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OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 00:09 GMT
#2085
poof it gives us ABSOLUTE INFO
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 00:11 GMT
#2088
AND idk youre not scum
my reads are shit except for the one where eden is town

"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 00:20 GMT
#2101
nope nope i cant do it
poof is town as fuck
not happening
##unvote
##vote: Vendetta Strada
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OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 00:45 GMT
#2125
game makes so much sense if scumteam is of koshi rayn lol
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 01:00 GMT
#2140
On July 16 2014 09:58 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2014 09:52 Tehpoofter wrote:
On July 16 2014 09:50 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 16 2014 09:43 Tehpoofter wrote:
On July 16 2014 09:42 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 16 2014 09:35 Tehpoofter wrote:
Haru/GB where you at? what are you thinking? Koshi/Artanis you both afk too?

Robik I know you're here.


I'm trying to cover possible scenarios. Still, it seems I should lynch my scumreads, and those are you and Rayn, so, lynching you helps check. It really helps, because we will get to know alignments.

In case Robik is medic, we live. In case he isn't, we die. If we die, Robik is certainly mafia. If we live and nobody dies, he is medic.

Now, yes, we should be lynching our main scumreads. You are one of them, even after these bunch of posts which I must assume that have pretty decent logic. But you had all the day to defend yourself. You had all the day to put town in the right path but you didn't.

Sorry poof, I actually love your play style since that game we've played but your lynch seems to be the best option to me.


Think about this Glowing bear WE have played the one game together THE ONE

When did i start playing in that game? At EOD I did everything at EOD thats what its the hardest for sucm to play I went over this a bunch. Like think about when i was townie at last game.


You realise that we've only killed Teemu because I voted on him, right? You went straight for Epishade lol.
Yeah, I remember that game, that's also what made me think you're probably scum. You came by EoD, that's right, but you were much, much more aggressive, much more... Counselling(?). You always started a wagon, a second wagon, trying to disrupting mafia.

Now, you're just really passive. You're only starting to be aggressive now. I'm not willing to change votes


I VOTED HARU AND MADE HIM FAKE CLAIM

I came in aggressive sadly it was on you and I was only aggressive at the end of the game. I was wrong though Like I was probably wrong on ou I'm town here.

What can i do to make you change?

Haru where you at you were in the game too?


You came aggressive too late, that's what I'm saying.
You can't convince me you are town. You can only convince me if you bring a better scenario.

This is the scenario I have: we kill you, you flip whatever and we can get useful check against other players. If we die, we have our mafia: Robik, and we are out of LYLO. If we don't, we have our certain check.

Give me a better scenario. You're assuming Rayn is scum but he could not be, that's where the problem lies. We would get a similar scenario but our checks would mean nothing because we won't know alignments for sure

On July 16 2014 09:44 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2014 09:38 IAmRobik wrote:
I was grabbing food. The people changing off poofter are idiots.
Poofter claiming Rayn is scummy for not being around @2:30am for a 4am lynch is not a valid reason for Rayn to be scum. There are reason to think Rayn is scum: he's playing scummy, marv and plam died, he's been fairly afk in general. Poofter gives NONE OF THESE REASON. His reason is that Rayn is AFK @ 2:30am.

robik are you really doctor?

because if you are then parity cop check is virtually an auto-win even if we don't lynch poofter. think it through.

you die tonight, four people left are artanis, onceking, poofter and me along w/harubear. we will know FOR SURE that the scumteam is one of those two pairs and we should easily be able to eliminate one of the two pairs based on a combination of associations together and with other players and based on independent play.

that's ASSUMING WE MISLYNCH TODAY EVEN!

but we may not! and if rayn IS scum then it is autowin even with parity cop check.

there is no reason to lynch poofter to help the check so let's lynch the scum which is rayn

"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 01:13 GMT
#2162
d u d e
p o o f t e r
i s
t o w n
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OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 01:18 GMT
#2173
is not risk
you keep saying the same thing without reading why lynching rayn is better

do you think poof is town
if you think poof is town you should not be voting for what you think is a ML
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 01:19 GMT
#2174
(also if you think poof is mafia you should think again because poof is SO TOWN)
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OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 01:22 GMT
#2184
how is it self preservation
its literally not self preservation
he votes rayn and lives
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 01:23 GMT
#2187
i believe eden literally a hundred billion zillion million thousand percent
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 01:23 GMT
#2189
i have my reaosns
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 01:26 GMT
#2194
IF U GET JAILED U DONT GET A CHECK...
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 01:28 GMT
#2201
are you sure
ARE YOU SURE
i dont tink thats how it works
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 01:28 GMT
#2203
ninja'd
basically what poof said
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 01:32 GMT
#2211
u dont get notification for being jailed...
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 01:36 GMT
#2218
come on look at the fucking thread
there is NO WAY poofter is mafia
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 01:39 GMT
#2224
lol gb PLS

if robik is actually medic why did he whine at beginning of day 2 at medic for not saving marv
why did he not give a previous save
if eden isnt jailer why does his save make complete sense for him, he and i have been dickriding each other for 144 fucking hours now
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 01:41 GMT
#2230
its true im looking at his face in allstars right now
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 01:42 GMT
#2233
POOFTER IS SO TOWN STOP LYNCHING HIM
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 01:43 GMT
#2237
what if he fucking jails the person u check
cant coordinate that shit either

lynch rayn
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 01:45 GMT
#2238
im looking at his face
poofter hasnt said jack shit the whole video mafia game
hes literally all 100% on this game why would he do this as scum
poofter is so town CHANGE THE VOTE
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 01:47 GMT
#2244
YOU GOTTA RISK IT FOR A BISCUIT
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 01:48 GMT
#2248
IF U DIE AND EDEN DIDNT JAIL U IT DOESNT MEAN SHIT LOL
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 01:51 GMT
#2258
what if hes just doing dumb shit as a vt
what about that gb
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 01:52 GMT
#2262
asd fsdf a4t 4tra
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 01:53 GMT
#2265
robik claim fake
rayn most scum
eden claim jail
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 01:55 GMT
#2275
BELIEVE IN ME WHO BELIEVES IN EDEN WHO BELIEVES IN RAYN BEING SCUM
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 01:56 GMT
#2279
wtf artanis
u READ HIS DEFENSE
he was shitting town then u said it yourself and hes shitting town now

i know it sounds like im asking for an unflipped association
but poe the game
who could possibly be poofs partner
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 01:57 GMT
#2284
haru switched
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 02:02 GMT
#2300
the anticipation is fucking killing me
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 02:03 GMT
#2307
YAEAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 02:03 GMT
#2311
HOW EASY IS THIS GAME NOW
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 02:04 GMT
#2313
[image loading]
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 02:07 GMT
#2325
haru claimed parity cop
poofter town
eden town
robik fakeclaim doc
me town
artanis ??

GAME IS SO MUCH EASIER NOW
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 02:08 GMT
#2329
hi hf
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OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 02:10 GMT
#2333
hf explain why its a bus
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 02:11 GMT
#2338
died in video mafia
lynched scum in this game
wurf
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 02:15 GMT
#2344
On July 16 2014 11:13 IAmRobik wrote:
I've never been lynched as town or mafia. I'm town this game. You're not lynching me ever. There's a high non-negative chance that I'm night killed. Either way the game is a lock because if haru gets a same check, we just lynch the other 2 teams. If haru gets a different check, we lynch both teams taht are checked. Easy fucking game

qft
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 02:18 GMT
#2347
or it makes robik a fakeclaiming town
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 02:21 GMT
#2350
On July 16 2014 11:19 sinani206 wrote:
well played people who were here while i wasn't.
ez game is ez

no lie i would probably lynch you if you werent me LOL
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 02:33 GMT
#2358
gasp
ur info on me isnt changing
my info on u isnt changing


... we must both be scum
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 02:48 GMT
#2361
On July 16 2014 11:40 Eden1892 wrote:
but im confirmed town

ive been saying it since d1 dude its so tru

ok friends lets look at dis shit.

we arent actually lynching harubear ever LOL i made that up le rxn test!! xdddddddd
onceking and i are confirmed town. so we lynch into 3 people with 2 lynches... robik, artanis, poofter

i feel like poofter and robik are both town and i don't like how lackadaisical artanis was at EOD here, i know he checked in last-minute and couldn't truly catch up and GET INTO IT but he literally was like "lol this lynch is ok i guess??" which is meh

so... we're lynching into 4 people with 2 lynches
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 02:53 GMT
#2365
poofter havent u learned
eden and i are 4evr in love (this game)
we will never lynch each other

eden - nvm im figuratively retarde, ignore what i said
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 02:59 GMT
#2367
On July 16 2014 11:56 27ninjabunnies wrote:
I am off of work and currently getting food.

I see we lynched mafia. Good!

Also, get rekt robik.

1. Who pushed lynch off of me and poof and onto rayn?
2. Why the heck is hf here?
3. Ill read what i missed when i get home

1. eden me poof. basically poof shit town all across the azure skies, eden and i were like yo... poof looks hella town. then eden was like lets kill rayn and i was like ok lets kill rayn. then several pages of capslock later harubear lynched rayn.
2. replacing exo

curious question you're in tx huh? where do you work so that your hours are so weird lol
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 03:15 GMT
#2375
points A and B are why i was on poofter so much beginning of day 1.
the rest i need to think about.
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 03:26 GMT
#2379
for some reason when HF says the same things as robik it sounds more plausible...
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 04:12 GMT
#2394
im chillin now
game is p much solved
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 04:16 GMT
#2396
On July 16 2014 13:13 IAmRobik wrote:
So yeah, I'm gonna let HF take care of the rest of the game.

We are the medic

We will die at night

Just listen to haru's check and we win

ok coach will do
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 04:49 GMT
#2399
you give me a better portmanteau
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 05:24 GMT
#2409
i was going to talk about how amusing it is that anyone thinks i can possibly be scum at all but instead i'm going to ask you, bunnies, to find a post from the neighborhood of page 110 wherein artanis or koshi is "semidefending" or trying to push other lynches.
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 06:32 GMT
#2418
On July 16 2014 15:29 Koshi wrote:
Damn, rayn was scum. How fucked are we?

who's da mafia?
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 06:55 GMT
#2422
i'm pretty sure everyone agrees that barring ~Extraordinary Plays~ koshi/artanis will go tomorrow
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 16:03 GMT
#2618
Ok I'm awake, here's my perspective of the game.

First off I think the game is quite townsided. The reason why I feel this way is because of the numbers -- the amount of townies is doubled making it much easier to PoE the game. I know that the number of scum is doubled too but I feel like doubling the amount of scum had less of an impact. AND the RNG took an enormous dump on mafia, holy shit. That's just bad luck.


So as I said at the beginning of the game Eden and I confirmed each other instantly by him doing Kenpachi Rule and me sheeping it. I'm telling you that we can get such strong townreads off of each other for the stupidest things, once irl I got up to use the restroom and he townread me for it.

So from there I just wanted to push whatever discussion was available. Eventually discussion led me to push the lynch on Slamroot who I had a huge part in mislynching. I know Robik thinks that I was just bandwagoning w/ him and Eden but the fact is that I was on Slamroot before anyone else for my own reasoning and while I didn't spam one liners to try to get people to vote him I said more than anyone else on him.

I want to apologize to them for this. I was trying to be as fair as possible, I was almost absolutely sure they were scum but I guess sqrt and slam must have felt pretty persecuted. When they refused to explain their reads I was just like... there's just no way they're town. It's impossible. If they had said something instead of giving up I'd like to think that I would have reconsidered. But for the life of me I can't remember a single personal attack I did on them, the worst I did was say that a response was useless.

Anyway my entire game was thrown off once Slamroot flipped town ROFL... after that I was paranoid of everyone except for Eden. Unfortunately Palmiform who I was quite sure was town died also, marvderg I was on the fence about so... worked out ok for me. I honestly expected Eden or myself to die though marv's notes from earlier about how we were both incredibly wrong d1 make sense as to why neither of us were shot. After that I waffled for just way too long because lots of people looked pretty town and I just didn't know what direction to go.

At several points in time I tinfoiled Robik scum with Rayn, then Robik scum with Haru (ESPECIALLY AFTER THE FAKECLAIM LOL, I only realized it was really townie after I took a step back), etc. Robik when he was actually being helpful this game I liked, Robik when he was talking about how he was a townie I didn't like.

So at this point, knowing Eden and myself were town I thought: mafia is fucked if they keep us together at LYLO. Because we can't be made to turn on each other, and yet neither of us has been shot so the people who look worst to me are people who are trying to throw doubt on either of us (to convince everyone else that one of us is scum though we confirmed each other a zillion times over).

These players were: bunnies, ExO, artanis. I can't really blame artanis for this though as he replaced in. Speaking of which, another thought crossed my mind where replacements are statistically more likely to be scum, so the double slot replace made me think you guys were even more likely to be mafia... lol. Too bad I didn't say anything, so I guess it doesn't count.

So I tentatively followed onto bunnies. Then poof as town as fuck. So I followed his case onto Haru and honestly had Haru never made the posts on Rayn and Koshi (even though he turned out to be right) I would have never done that. But then the claims came out and from there imo the game was pretty much solved. At that point, there was nothing the mafia could do imo.

At that point mafia has to kill three people -- Haru the cop, Eden the jailer and me who can better than anyone decipher the Will of Eden and his breadcrumbs. They probably didn't realize they have to kill me though lmao. At this point I would have taken a flip over a save as stupid as it sounds.

The remaining teams were:
Robik/HF
OK/Sinani
Eden/gk
poof/bunnies
koshi/artanis
haru/gb

Because of Eden's breadcrumb from WAY back I knew that Eden wasn't going to jail haru/gb. But there's no mafia with the balls to NOT shoot either the claimed jailer or claimed medic lol. Just... no scum team is ever going to call that bluff when they can get the guaranteed kill on the jailer. So after Eden flips haru gets back his check. I know haru is legit cop because his beef with rayn meant that it couldn't be scum/scum interaction. If he gets back a "same" check then it confirms bunnies and someone else as town, if he gets back a different we just lynch into two teams with two lynches. Once rayn flipped the game was impossible for mafia to win. Eden and I basically became super god-tier confirmed town for that switch.

Personally I'm a bit disappointed in myself for faltering so much on day 2. I didn't impact the game at all during those 48 hours except for the very end when I decided to take a stand -- even though that stand turned out to be incorrect, I feel that it eventually led us to the win. So in the end even though I was wrong on Slamroot I should trust in myself more anyway.

Thanks to kita and TicaTica for a fun game. Thanks to all the other players for playing with me too.

EDEN WE DID IT BRAH
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 16:20 GMT
#2628
and I feel like PoE is kind of hard to deal with from scumside lol. Because it'll get to the point where it's not like there's a case against you that you can refute, it's just kinda well everyone else is town and you're not as town as them so you're scum

The only thing you can say to that is like, "oh i disagree, your process of elimination is wrong" which comes down to... eh. It's not nearly as defensible as an actual case.
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 16:25 GMT
#2630
ya I feel like rayn was pretty fucked illness aside
cause I wasn't gonna lynch poof
and I wasn't gonna lynch haru after the claim
and I sure as fuck wasn't gonna lynch Eden or myself
so... I'm just PoE'd into three teams lol
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 16 2014 18:17 GMT
#2639
On July 17 2014 02:59 goodkarma wrote:
Are hydra QTs going to be posted BTW?

Not that important, but would be interesting to see how the town internally read the game as it progressed.

they're linked in the game spreadsheet


ok I read through obs QT
I guess the slamroot case was demonstrably not a slam dunk like I thought it was. I'd like to get general impressions from everyone though, was I really being witch-hunty? I felt like Eden was but I didn't care because I thought he was town and knew he was just doing whatever he felt he had to do in order to secure the vote.
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 18 2014 16:22 GMT
#2694
i mean imo you just say whatever you have to say in order to get the result you want without crossing a line of personally insulting people
it's undoubtedly going to cause salt down the line but salt is natural and ever flowing, salt is part of the circle of trife and always happens after anyone loses at anything anyway.
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 18 2014 16:48 GMT
#2699
On July 19 2014 01:42 Holyflare wrote:
It's no coincidence that when i joined the game mafia conceded.

"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
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