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27ninjabunnies
United States2486 Posts
So rumor has it, There is a guy, called Kenpachi, and at the game start, he says "hi, i am Kenpachi and i am a townie." The first guy casting doubt on that dude is always scum, that's the "Kenpachi rule" It's a stupid rule, and has no basis to why I am reading YKZ as scum. | ||
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Chezinu
United States7456 Posts
On June 16 2014 10:21 27ninjabunnies wrote: So rumor has it, There is a guy, called Kenpachi, and at the game start, he says "hi, i am Kenpachi and i am a townie." The first guy casting doubt on that dude is always scum, that's the "Kenpachi rule" It's a stupid rule, and has no basis to why I am reading YKZ as scum. Hi, I'm Chezinu | ||
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27ninjabunnies
United States2486 Posts
Hi, Im Bunnies!!! Tell me, Chez Can I call you chez?) What do you think about my case on YKZ. I'm not talking about the him claiming VT but of him saying that I had limited information, which is basically him town reading me, and that he is mafia because he knows this? | ||
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YouKnowZhou
United States262 Posts
The Kenpachi rule, named after its author Kenpachi, is a TL adage reflecting the idea that without a clear and better motivation for a vote, it is almost certainly a scumtell when a player votes a player who claimed VT at the start of the game. Kenpachi's rule, in broader form, is: Without a blantant display of humor, a vote on a vt claim comes almost always from a scum player. The core of Kenpachi rule is that a vt claim by its nature is not suspicious to a town player, who isn't hunting for blues. Without a clear motivation for a vt claim, it looks odd to scum, who want to attack someone safely. A corollary of the Kenpachi rule is the reverse phenomenon: the first vt claim is almost always sincere. | ||
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goodkarma
United States1067 Posts
On June 16 2014 10:21 27ninjabunnies wrote: So rumor has it, There is a guy, called Kenpachi, and at the game start, he says "hi, i am Kenpachi and i am a townie." The first guy casting doubt on that dude is always scum, that's the "Kenpachi rule" It's a stupid rule, and has no basis to why I am reading YKZ as scum. On June 16 2014 10:27 YouKnowZhou wrote: The Kenpachi rule, named after its author Kenpachi, is a TL adage reflecting the idea that without a clear and better motivation for a vote, it is almost certainly a scumtell when a player votes a player who claimed VT at the start of the game. Kenpachi's rule, in broader form, is: Without a blantant display of humor, a vote on a vt claim comes almost always from a scum player. The core of Kenpachi rule is that a vt claim by its nature is not suspicious to a town player, who isn't hunting for blues. Without a clear motivation for a vt claim, it looks odd to scum, who want to attack someone safely. A corollary of the Kenpachi rule is the reverse phenomenon: the first vt claim is almost always sincere. These definitions don't exactly match up... | ||
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
It's pretty much as awesome as ZBot! | ||
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YouKnowZhou
United States262 Posts
On June 16 2014 10:33 goodkarma wrote: These definitions don't exactly match up... You can search it on TL for urself, but it's not about claiming townie, as 27ninjabunnies asserts. The rule is about claiming vanilla townie. Basicly, scum want to jump on something, and a VT claim looks basicly not intresting to a townie who isn't hunting for blues. It looks unique though to someone who is hunting for blues: scum. | ||
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Chezinu
United States7456 Posts
On June 16 2014 10:36 YouKnowZhou wrote: You can search it on TL for urself, but it's not about claiming townie, as 27ninjabunnies asserts. The rule is about claiming vanilla townie. Basicly, scum want to jump on something, and a VT claim looks basicly not intresting to a townie who isn't hunting for blues. It looks unique though to someone who is hunting for blues: scum. You Know, you know. | ||
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goodkarma
United States1067 Posts
On June 16 2014 10:36 YouKnowZhou wrote: You can search it on TL for urself, but it's not about claiming townie, as 27ninjabunnies asserts. The rule is about claiming vanilla townie. Basicly, scum want to jump on something, and a VT claim looks basicly not intresting to a townie who isn't hunting for blues. It looks unique though to someone who is hunting for blues: scum. But knowing all of this, couldn't you say you're VT regardless of alignment, bait someone's suspicion and then claim Kenpachi rule? I'm having trouble understanding why at the very start of the game scum would be more prone to jumping on something that looks scummy. I mean if scum's job is to blend in, why be the first to vote and make a case? There's always scrutiny that comes with doing so... | ||
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goodkarma
United States1067 Posts
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YouKnowZhou
United States262 Posts
On June 16 2014 10:47 goodkarma wrote: But knowing all of this, couldn't you say you're VT regardless of alignment, bait someone's suspicion and then claim Kenpachi rule? I'm having trouble understanding why at the very start of the game scum would be more prone to jumping on something that looks scummy. I mean if scum's job is to blend in, why be the first to vote and make a case? There's always scrutiny that comes with doing so... I understand your concern. Let me elucedate: Kenpachi's rule actually works. Your concerned bcuz you assume a townie would vote a vt claim so scum could claim vt then a townie votes and gets "baited". Your concern is wrong bcuz a townie would never do this. this is part of the kenpachi's rule. the next part is that you assume it looks scummy, which it isn't. scum would never claim vt bcuz scum wants to be able to fakeclaim blue at lylo or sumthing. scum wants to blend in but they are jumpy silly folk. kenpachi rule always works, bcuz it never fails. tyvm | ||
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Chezinu
United States7456 Posts
On June 16 2014 10:47 goodkarma wrote: But knowing all of this, couldn't you say you're VT regardless of alignment, bait someone's suspicion and then claim Kenpachi rule? I'm having trouble understanding why at the very start of the game scum would be more prone to jumping on something that looks scummy. I mean if scum's job is to blend in, why be the first to vote and make a case? There's always scrutiny that comes with doing so... Hello there my friend, I believe The Sheriff wants to speak with you out back. Oh and don't forget to bring your weapon. | ||
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27ninjabunnies
United States2486 Posts
On June 16 2014 10:49 YouKnowZhou wrote: I understand your concern. Let me elucedate: Kenpachi's rule actually works. Your concerned bcuz you assume a townie would vote a vt claim so scum could claim vt then a townie votes and gets "baited". Your concern is wrong bcuz a townie would never do this. this is part of the kenpachi's rule. the next part is that you assume it looks scummy, which it isn't. scum would never claim vt bcuz scum wants to be able to fakeclaim blue at lylo or sumthing. scum wants to blend in but they are jumpy silly folk. kenpachi rule always works, bcuz it never fails. tyvm Tbh, I could care less that you claimed VT. Except for the fact that if you are VT, then mafia will hit outside of you to hit a pr, and that's stupid that you would give mafia that information... What I care more about, and the reason why I'm voting you, is your claim that I have limited information. The only ones who have limited information are town, so calling me town, instantly when the game starts is super super odd. It means you have much information. You know who have much information? MAfia, hence my vote on you. Idc about kenpachi's rule, and I think it's stupid.My vote is not on you for that, but for what I bolded. | ||
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Snickers
United States1575 Posts
Also, your posts are giving me BH vibes. Hello everyone. I am not sure how to quote someone so if the above quote was wrong please tell me how. (I checked preview and it looked right) What does BH stand for? For awhile i thought VT stood for vigilante not vanilla town. Also this kenpachi rule is useless. | ||
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Snickers
United States1575 Posts
On June 16 2014 10:49 YouKnowZhou wrote: Show nested quote + I understand your concern. Let me elucedate: Kenpachi's rule actually works. Your concerned bcuz you assume a townie would vote a vt claim so scum could claim vt then a townie votes and gets "baited". Your concern is wrong bcuz a townie would never do this. this is part of the kenpachi's rule. the next part is that you assume it looks scummy, which it isn't. scum would never claim vt bcuz scum wants to be able to fakeclaim blue at lylo or sumthing. scum wants to blend in but they are jumpy silly folk. kenpachi rule always works, bcuz it never fails. tyvm Tbh, I could care less that you claimed VT. Except for the fact that if you are VT, then mafia will hit outside of you to hit a pr, and that's stupid that you would give mafia that information... What I care more about, and the reason why I'm voting you, is your claim that I have limited information. The only ones who have limited information are town, so calling me town, instantly when the game starts is super super odd. It means you have much information. You know who have much information? MAfia, hence my vote on you. Idc about kenpachi's rule, and I think it's stupid.My vote is not on you for that, but for what I bolded. What if he is a blue player(I assume this is same as pr) and he is trying to lure mafia away from himself, because he thinks a blue player is worth more than a VT. | ||
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YouKnowZhou
United States262 Posts
On June 16 2014 10:58 Snickers wrote: Hello everyone. I am not sure how to quote someone so if the above quote was wrong please tell me how. (I checked preview and it looked right) What does BH stand for? For awhile i thought VT stood for vigilante not vanilla town. Also this kenpachi rule is useless. BH stands for "Blazinghand": he is a mafia-guy who is mean to newbies and throws around his "vet" status in games and thinks he is way better then everyone else. ne1 who thinks I am BH also thinks I am town tho cuz BH's favorite thing is to fake claim blue roles every game when he is scum. He would never claim vt as scum bcuz he wants to fake claim blue rofl | ||
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27ninjabunnies
United States2486 Posts
Just hit quote in the upper right corner of the post. It works better! Also, pr means power role, so yes means same as blue. I think coming out like that puts yourself in the spotlight. i wouldnt speculate whether or not he is blue right now. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25557 Posts
On June 16 2014 11:09 27ninjabunnies wrote: i wouldnt speculate whether or not he is blue right now. You wouldnt speculate bcuz you think i am scum. Unless of cours u kno i am not scum. So I caught u in scum slip. | ||
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YouKnowZhou
United States262 Posts
On June 16 2014 11:09 27ninjabunnies wrote: i wouldnt speculate whether or not he is blue right now. You wouldnt speculate bcuz you think i am scum. Unless of cours u kno i am not scum. So I caught u in scum slip. | ||
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YouKnowZhou
United States262 Posts
Well, because 27nb is in fact scum, jumped on me for kenpachi rule reasons, and snickers brought up a legit concern for 27nb who doesn't know whether I am blue or green (only knows that i'm not scum with him/her). So, there you have it. | ||
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