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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 12 2014 16:25 GMT
#1141
On July 13 2014 01:21 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Anyone with at least half a brain should be able to see that, if they filterdive them both.

I don't see it. Pls point it out.
I had a good night of sleep.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 12 2014 16:26 GMT
#1142
On July 13 2014 01:25 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2014 01:21 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Anyone with at least half a brain should be able to see that, if they filterdive them both.

I don't see it. Pls point it out.

He did say at least half a brain, koshi, which rules you out.

I have a full brain, and I don't see it
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 12 2014 16:29 GMT
#1143
On July 13 2014 01:26 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2014 01:25 Koshi wrote:
On July 13 2014 01:21 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Anyone with at least half a brain should be able to see that, if they filterdive them both.

I don't see it. Pls point it out.

He did say at least half a brain, koshi, which rules you out.

I have a full brain, and I don't see it

Wait. I am starting to see it.
I had a good night of sleep.
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 12 2014 16:41 GMT
#1144
On July 13 2014 01:20 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Okay, I'm back.
I have one read I'm pretty darn sure on.
Robik + ExO's mafia.
Wow, it's so obvious now.
Here's what you need to do.
Assume that they're mafia.
Now look at their posts.
They make complete sense if they're mafia. They fit perfectly together if they're mafia.
Done.

see look it's posts like this that make me so convinced
they just say things like they're true and don't back them up or explain how or why. and sometimes what they say is completely false.
this isn't the only instance.
+ Show Spoiler [wall of quotes lol] +
On July 12 2014 01:16 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 00:57 IAmRobik wrote:
TOWNIEST POST IN THE MOTHA FUCKIN THREAD. THIS GUY IS SO FUCKING BRUTALLY TOWN. IF ANYONE VOTES TO LYNCH HIM, YOU WILL FACE MY WRATH

On July 12 2014 00:54 ExO_ wrote:
Some thoughts:

Team D-

I tend to have weird hours that I can be on, and I'm not just reading the TL forums 24/7, so while I can't always be as active as robik saying I'm not doing anything now isn't really giving me a fair shake in my opinion (@27ninjabunnies).

Every game I've seen 27nb in she goes around being very caustic and arrogant towards some people, and very nice to others. It seems to be regardless of her alignment. I find it to be unhelpful, as she goes off on tangents with wild accusations filled with bullshit reasoning for scum reads.

What this means in terms of the game is it's hard for me to read her as mafia or town. But I think she does more to cause problems in a town, than actually help with finding scum and uniting the town players.

Poofter isn't saying much and is kinda letting her get out in front. I don't know how to interpret that, but in World Cup poofter stayed kinda quiet until it came time to push me in the wrong directions. Nearly worked too .

So a null read on the team but I generally think constantly creating a toxic atmosphere for the town is a bad thing even if they are town.

Team Whine
Slam is posting a fuck ton of 1 liners/pictures/general nonsense (hijole?) and sqrtofneg1 is saying nothing at all. In larger games I think mafia lurking works better than in a smaller game such as this, but it's almost nothing to read off of. Will have to wait to see what they vote day 1 and what happens night 1 to really know what to think of them.

Team VendettaStrada
I'm not sure if they're both posting from the same account, but it looks like it's all raynpelioneet. In my limited experience here I haven't seen him before, and though he hasn't posted a fuck ton of stuff, seems townish it to me. Looks like he's contributing.

Team needs a lawyer
I always kinda read HaruRH scummy, he has a little bit of omgus going on, but I miss read him in world cup so it gives me pause. So I look over at glowing bear, and he hasn't said a whole lot either. Just got caught up in the Kenpachi business. But doesn't really read town to me. I lean scum here, but I'm hesitant.

Team Magic Carpet
Not a lot of posts from straightform just asking questions "Robik why won't u post?, Why would exo/robik not posting Day 1 not be bad for town" etc... Palmar calls out team lawyer for not posting anything of value, but I see very little of value from him at all. After reading his filter i think Palmar is the most scummy looking person so far in the thread.
*scum read*

Team GoodCornBadCorn
Completely afk. Like 1 combined other than their /in posts. like what....? Do they not know the game is happening? No reads yet for obvious reasons

Team Crotch Rocket
Not a lot being said from good Karma. Eden is posting quite a bit, and seems okay. I don't think mafia are going to be quite as active as eden is being, but it could be good coaching happening. Town read for now though

Team Fraud walRus
Sinani saying hardly anything, OnceKing's vote on our team I think is bad: it's based on robik not playing the game, when robik has been pretty active. Hasn't really expanded on any reads and got pretty caught up in ol' kenpachi but I don't get a scum vibe from him. Null read

Team M squared
mderg hasn't said too much, but I've generally liked and agreed with what marv has to say. I think Town


So that leaves me with

Town
M squared
Vendetta Strata (aka how can I make a parody of that team name)
Rocket Crotch


Null
D-
Whine*
Goodcornbadcorn*
Fraud walRus

Scum
Lawyer
Magic Carpet

*Mostly afk


Unfortunately, I think I shall cast some doubt on this post.
Some of these town reads are kind of fishy.
Ex:
Show nested quote +

Not a lot being said from good Karma. Eden is posting quite a bit, and seems okay. I don't think mafia are going to be quite as active as eden is being, but it could be good coaching happening. Town read for now though
Not my cup of tea.
Or this one
Show nested quote +

I'm not sure if they're both posting from the same account, but it looks like it's all raynpelioneet. In my limited experience here I haven't seen him before, and though he hasn't posted a fuck ton of stuff, seems townish it to me. Looks like he's contributing.

I'm not so sure he's town. But the post is definitely the best post so far. But some of these reads seem fabricated.
[grapes]

On July 12 2014 01:27 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Tehpoofter hasn't done much. No read on him.
Bunnies, however, has talked alot. A lot lot.
Bunnies isn't as helpful as in other games, to the best of my memory. She's not questioning anything, not pushing people, I don't like it.
But I don't think we should lynch them because you usually don't lynch the most outspoken player, even if they're not posting all that useful stuff.

Bunnies, any particular reason for not scumhunting?
[grapes]

On July 12 2014 01:31 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
I do not like palmar. (this seems to be a trend)
He hasn't /confirmed yet.
First post:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2014 04:25 Palmar wrote:
Hi I am Pálmar

And then does nothing for a significant amount of time.
Also this is not the palmar I saw when I played him. He was more analytical, more smart that game. This game, not so much.

Stratiform, I don't have a clue.
But this is my best read so far. They're mafia.

##Vote: Team Magic Computer
[grapes]

On July 12 2014 01:39 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2014 21:13 sinani206 wrote:
hey palmar.

what do you think of robik.

Why does sinani call out palmar in particular? Why hasn't he done anything yet?

OK is better, but not by much. He also asks others of what they think of robik too.
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2014 14:57 OnceKing wrote:
So based on what he's said thus far what think you of robik


I'm not sure what to make of this team. I wouldn't mind lynching them.

*insert grape picture here*

On July 12 2014 04:02 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 03:57 goodkarma wrote:
On July 12 2014 01:39 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
On July 11 2014 21:13 sinani206 wrote:
hey palmar.

what do you think of robik.

Why does sinani call out palmar in particular? Why hasn't he done anything yet?

OK is better, but not by much. He also asks others of what they think of robik too.
On July 11 2014 14:57 OnceKing wrote:
So based on what he's said thus far what think you of robik


I'm not sure what to make of this team. I wouldn't mind lynching them.

*insert grape picture here*


Care to elaborate a bit on this? Asking questions and determining others' stances/reads is part of the game. And they have shared reads of their own. You say you wouldn't mind lynching them, yet you say you don't have much of a read on their alignment.

I don't.
But I wouldn't mind lynching them, because at that time, sinani had done practically nothing, and OK wasn't doing much either.
Sinani's question struck me as strange.
And I noticed that they both asked about robik.

On July 12 2014 07:09 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 06:48 OnceKing wrote:
from sqrt's post that eden quoted:

I'm not so sure he's town. But the post is definitely the best post so far. But some of these reads seem fabricated.


hahahahaha

It's the best because it gave me the most information.
It gave me the most information because some of the reads seem fabricated.

On July 12 2014 08:14 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 08:12 OnceKing wrote:
sqrt if you have absolutely no idea who is scum how do you know to vote for Team Fakeclaim

- FRU

RNG

On July 12 2014 10:33 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Okay, 30 minutes till we die.
I'm not sure, but I wouldn't have Robik+ExO as a top town team.
Keep an eye on OK and Eden.

On July 13 2014 01:20 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Okay, I'm back.
I have one read I'm pretty darn sure on.
Robik + ExO's mafia.
Wow, it's so obvious now.
Here's what you need to do.
Assume that they're mafia.
Now look at their posts.
They make complete sense if they're mafia. They fit perfectly together if they're mafia.
Done.

On July 12 2014 08:27 Alakaslam wrote:
HIJOLE I said don't post if you aren't sure; that is what happened

Was unsure but wanted to point out train of thought

Ppl you must understand eventually we who WIFOM ourselves learn the bamcis way of Rayn. We read based off current events and post a lot when we are here.

Fortunately work was moved to tomorrow so IAM here

On July 12 2014 08:42 Alakaslam wrote:
You should think about this statement

Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 08:30 Eden1892 wrote:
Is the scum qt too cluttered to coach sqrt there Slam?


And tell me why we are now confirmed town or else you can lynch lurkers before us and get a guaranteed win.

Otherwise I will point it out & u look phoolish

On July 12 2014 09:06 Alakaslam wrote:
Both links are the same bull

It is sqrt wifoming himself aloud like i do in my head, I do the same thing in my first newbie and second and third

Then hurricane sponge and I learned the way of HIJOLE, followed by Chezinu and CHUPAZI

On July 12 2014 10:22 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 10:15 OnceKing wrote:
if you are town you should be helping us get our shit together and convincing me not to vote you
you have now withheld judgment on eden and myself because we are on different teams. why?
your vote is currently on robik's team. why?
who do you think is mafia? why?

This is what is told to every mislynch by his tunnel- go read my link and learn how to cuss!

On July 12 2014 15:10 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 15:07 OnceKing wrote:
slender: yup! i more or less buy it. waiting on harubear response

slam: want to answer the questions i asked you earlier now?

Hell fucking no I have nothing but acid and jackassery for this town.

Look at my re-entrance to this thread in the 40's and if your answers to how I was treated and my corresponding attitude aren't there well you don't want to determine alignments you just want to witch hunt- what we call "scum hunting" here but really isn't, because actually determining alignment is far more important than trying to decide on some lynch.

On July 13 2014 00:58 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2014 00:53 Koshi wrote:
When is the lynch? It's long right?

Idgaf you are all so blind and tunneled it is poimtless and has been once my actual content was ignored
[/i][/i]

like seriously you can't just insist that links are "bullshit" and "witchhunting" without explaining how, you can't just say "oh it takes half a brain to realize he's scum" without explaining why and sqrt contradicting himself multiple times is handwaved with "sqrt is wifoming himself".
it's just a bunch of buzzwords and you never get an explanation for anything specific, even though i asked multiple times.

also note this which i just pulled out of sqrt's filter while scrolling down:
On July 12 2014 04:49 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 04:48 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On July 12 2014 04:44 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
On July 12 2014 04:43 OnceKing wrote:
except for the part where i'm not lurking and your assertion that i wasn't doing much is completely ~Fraudulent~

also both of us asking about robik means... what exactly? that we want to know about robik? god forbid

That maybe you're mafia, and you wanna kill him.

Why are you viewing robik as town?

Also, what do you think of ExOs reads?

If I'm not mistaken you said you didn't like them, and said they seemed fabricated.

Robik is crazy. He might be town.

And yep.

how the fuck do you think ExO is fabricating reads, and then call the slot town. PLEASE TELL ME.
as also noted by eden's post counting upthread they had somewhere in the neighborhood of a hundred posts this game and yet haven't said anything helpful.
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
Stratiform
Profile Joined June 2014
37 Posts
July 12 2014 16:48 GMT
#1145
Yeah, I'm beginning to agree on sqrt-1.

On July 13 2014 01:21 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Anyone with at least half a brain should be able to see that, if they filterdive them both.

You have half a brain, you should be able to explain your reads better than that.

Especially since you gave a townread to them early on.

I'll be back later, some time before the lynch.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 12 2014 17:07 GMT
#1146
Marv, you completely disregarded the fact that I said that those three names were suspicions. You completely disregarded that I tried, although failed, to summarise the posts until now, so it could help poof and any other player who is having a hard time trying to catch up. You completely disregarded the case I've brought against sqrt, which I should say, is the strongest case against them, which was reasoned by presenting my preferred (not only) method to catch scum and blocks of quotations that proved my point of view.

I said I had suspicions on three people that I would cover today. I said that I had a scumread on a person and covered it.
You preferred to focus on the people I have suspicions yet to be confirmed, and to ignore the case I've brought.

So, let me ask: what do you think of the case I've brought on sqrt?
Maybe now people won't simply disregard my efforts.
I'm adorable.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
July 12 2014 17:09 GMT
#1147
I´ve never seen slam this angry, not sure what to make of this. I actually liked how he started this game, his reaction to the kenpachi rule looked townie to me and he looked carefree. The lack of good content didn´t look too good, though. Overall slam himself is not particularly scummy to me.

sqrt however I don´t like. The lack of good reasoning/explanation of reads is concerning. He did take some clear stances like on Palmar and Eden earlier (both were unconvincing, though). I really didn´t like the sudden switch on Eden then. Overall that´s pointing towards scum but I´m not entirely convinced.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 12 2014 17:09 GMT
#1148
I am really interested in what you had about the other 3. Make sure you clarify that read.

I going to dinner now.
I had a good night of sleep.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 12 2014 17:11 GMT
#1149
For those who want to read -- Town!Slam from Order (filtering pgs 14-16):

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/451310-tl-order-lxvi-mafia?user=Alakaslam&page=14

IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 12 2014 17:12 GMT
#1150
On July 13 2014 02:11 IAmRobik wrote:
For those who want to read -- Town!Slam from Order (filtering pgs 14-16):

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/451310-tl-order-lxvi-mafia?user=Alakaslam&page=14




This post in particular
On June 26 2014 15:51 Alakaslam wrote:
We must fite, I must confirm town myself

IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 12 2014 17:13 GMT
#1151
Also this one

On June 26 2014 22:01 Alakaslam wrote:
Well I am not letting myself get lynched so if nobody comes and chromatically is town GG scum

If he is scum my brawl vid is even more apropos

HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
July 12 2014 17:14 GMT
#1152
On July 13 2014 02:12 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2014 02:11 IAmRobik wrote:
For those who want to read -- Town!Slam from Order (filtering pgs 14-16):

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/451310-tl-order-lxvi-mafia?user=Alakaslam&page=14




This post in particular
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2014 15:51 Alakaslam wrote:
We must fite, I must confirm town myself



So robik, do you think slam is scum? I have really never seen him post so much angry stuff before. I don't really know where his frustration is stemming from, but this is really weird. Not even powerrole|slam gets into such a hissyfit.

What you think?
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 12 2014 17:15 GMT
#1153
On July 13 2014 02:09 mderg wrote:
I´ve never seen slam this angry, not sure what to make of this. I actually liked how he started this game, his reaction to the kenpachi rule looked townie to me and he looked carefree. The lack of good content didn´t look too good, though. Overall slam himself is not particularly scummy to me.

sqrt however I don´t like. The lack of good reasoning/explanation of reads is concerning. He did take some clear stances like on Palmar and Eden earlier (both were unconvincing, though). I really didn´t like the sudden switch on Eden then. Overall that´s pointing towards scum but I´m not entirely convinced.


I don't care if slam is pissed off, this is also a newbie game, if he thinks it's obvious he should explain why it is. If he gets angry for such little things he should try practicing muai thay or enter a anger management group. He's doing NOTHING to get his view clarified and to look like towny. He's just creating ruckus and a mess with posts. Being objective here: is that a town attitude or scum attitude?
If you say "a pissed town attitude" then I'll remind that this is a newbie game and if he gets pissed with that, he should play "only vets" games.

Koshi, I'll do that soon enough
I'm adorable.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
July 12 2014 17:19 GMT
#1154
On July 13 2014 02:15 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2014 02:09 mderg wrote:
I´ve never seen slam this angry, not sure what to make of this. I actually liked how he started this game, his reaction to the kenpachi rule looked townie to me and he looked carefree. The lack of good content didn´t look too good, though. Overall slam himself is not particularly scummy to me.

sqrt however I don´t like. The lack of good reasoning/explanation of reads is concerning. He did take some clear stances like on Palmar and Eden earlier (both were unconvincing, though). I really didn´t like the sudden switch on Eden then. Overall that´s pointing towards scum but I´m not entirely convinced.


I don't care if slam is pissed off, this is also a newbie game, if he thinks it's obvious he should explain why it is. If he gets angry for such little things he should try practicing muai thay or enter a anger management group. He's doing NOTHING to get his view clarified and to look like towny. He's just creating ruckus and a mess with posts. Being objective here: is that a town attitude or scum attitude?
If you say "a pissed town attitude" then I'll remind that this is a newbie game and if he gets pissed with that, he should play "only vets" games.

Koshi, I'll do that soon enough

I agree he´s not helping town with this. If it wasn´t slam, I´d probably have a strong scumread on him.
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
July 12 2014 17:26 GMT
#1155
On July 13 2014 02:19 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2014 02:15 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 13 2014 02:09 mderg wrote:
I´ve never seen slam this angry, not sure what to make of this. I actually liked how he started this game, his reaction to the kenpachi rule looked townie to me and he looked carefree. The lack of good content didn´t look too good, though. Overall slam himself is not particularly scummy to me.

sqrt however I don´t like. The lack of good reasoning/explanation of reads is concerning. He did take some clear stances like on Palmar and Eden earlier (both were unconvincing, though). I really didn´t like the sudden switch on Eden then. Overall that´s pointing towards scum but I´m not entirely convinced.


I don't care if slam is pissed off, this is also a newbie game, if he thinks it's obvious he should explain why it is. If he gets angry for such little things he should try practicing muai thay or enter a anger management group. He's doing NOTHING to get his view clarified and to look like towny. He's just creating ruckus and a mess with posts. Being objective here: is that a town attitude or scum attitude?
If you say "a pissed town attitude" then I'll remind that this is a newbie game and if he gets pissed with that, he should play "only vets" games.

Koshi, I'll do that soon enough

I agree he´s not helping town with this. If it wasn´t slam, I´d probably have a strong scumread on him.


Neither slam nor sqrt are helping town now.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
July 12 2014 17:35 GMT
#1156
Glowingbear's team town.
M&M town.
Robik/exo scum.
The other scum is probably either palmar's team or eden's team.
Imaginary
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 12 2014 17:38 GMT
#1157
On July 13 2014 02:35 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Glowingbear's team town.
M&M town.
Robik/exo scum.
The other scum is probably either palmar's team or eden's team.

Still waiting for you to answer the question I asked.
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 12 2014 17:39 GMT
#1158
On July 13 2014 02:35 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Glowingbear's team town.
M&M town.
Robik/exo scum.
The other scum is probably either palmar's team or eden's team.

j u s t i f y
y o u r
r e s p o n s e
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
July 12 2014 17:41 GMT
#1159
I shall not.
You shall lynch me either way.
You who have ears, let him hear.
Let my reads be known to those who choose to listen.
Imaginary
sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
July 12 2014 17:49 GMT
#1160
On July 13 2014 02:41 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
I shall not.
You shall lynch me either way.
You who have ears, let him hear.
Let my reads be known to those who choose to listen.

how to play town: convince other towns that your scum are scum
how to play scum: say things like this
literally everything is wifom just shut the fuck up
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