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On July 12 2014 02:04 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2014 02:01 Palmar wrote:On July 12 2014 01:58 marvellosity wrote:On July 12 2014 01:54 Palmar wrote:On July 12 2014 01:52 marvellosity wrote:On July 12 2014 01:51 Palmar wrote:
screw it, you're all awful.
I'm going to play dota. really. ##Vote: The Magic Computer If you actually think this then you're mafia. If I somehow get lynched. Lynch marv. No questions, no arguments. The rest of you are possibly bad enough to actually think this way, but marv isn't. To think what way? Last time I remember that you told town to go screw itself like that was in Cell. What way do you think I'm thinking in exactly here, Plammy? You voted me, therefore you think I'm mafia. Given my current contributions to the thread, there is literally no reason for you to think I'm mafia, in fact, you _should_ have a slight townread on me. So for some reason, your thought process isn't natural or clear, or possibly you're trolling. I don't think so. Robik's (?) point about nitpicking on smaller things chimed with me, I remembered that's how you operated in... that game I obsed. With DP. Mostly you tell towns/people they're awful like that when you are mafia, and mostly you call me bad or mafia when you are mafia (bureaucracy, Rock band, the mini me/you/robik were in). The only exception I can think of to this is LVIII which was 2 years ago or something. In the previous newbie game you were staunchly tryhard and nurturing, here you started trolling, tried a bit in the middle, and then told town they're all terrible and you're going away. Is any of this unfair/incorrect?
I act like palmar because I am palmar.
I call people bad all the time.
And yes, I played out of my element in that newbie game, I even said as much.
I nitpick small things because there is nothing else to nitpick (read my case on vivax in world cup mafia).
You're normally not wrong on my alignment. Here you are. So it is entirely possible I just call you bad or mafia when you think I'm mafia, regardless of my alignment.
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screw it though, that post I just responded to was entirely reasonable.
So I can't lynch either you or robik, when you both deserve it for aids and bads.
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On July 12 2014 02:12 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2014 02:09 Palmar wrote:On July 12 2014 02:04 marvellosity wrote:On July 12 2014 02:01 Palmar wrote:On July 12 2014 01:58 marvellosity wrote:On July 12 2014 01:54 Palmar wrote:On July 12 2014 01:52 marvellosity wrote:On July 12 2014 01:51 Palmar wrote:
screw it, you're all awful.
I'm going to play dota. really. ##Vote: The Magic Computer If you actually think this then you're mafia. If I somehow get lynched. Lynch marv. No questions, no arguments. The rest of you are possibly bad enough to actually think this way, but marv isn't. To think what way? Last time I remember that you told town to go screw itself like that was in Cell. What way do you think I'm thinking in exactly here, Plammy? You voted me, therefore you think I'm mafia. Given my current contributions to the thread, there is literally no reason for you to think I'm mafia, in fact, you _should_ have a slight townread on me. So for some reason, your thought process isn't natural or clear, or possibly you're trolling. I don't think so. Robik's (?) point about nitpicking on smaller things chimed with me, I remembered that's how you operated in... that game I obsed. With DP. Mostly you tell towns/people they're awful like that when you are mafia, and mostly you call me bad or mafia when you are mafia (bureaucracy, Rock band, the mini me/you/robik were in). The only exception I can think of to this is LVIII which was 2 years ago or something. In the previous newbie game you were staunchly tryhard and nurturing, here you started trolling, tried a bit in the middle, and then told town they're all terrible and you're going away. Is any of this unfair/incorrect? I act like palmar because I am palmar. I call people bad all the time. And yes, I played out of my element in that newbie game, I even said as much. I nitpick small things because there is nothing else to nitpick (read my case on vivax in world cup mafia). You're normally not wrong on my alignment. Here you are. So it is entirely possible I just call you bad or mafia when you think I'm mafia, regardless of my alignment. have you called town awful in a game since Cell when you were mafia? Even before this conversation you were seeming more prickly than I'm used to seeing you as town, you've been very laid back in most of your towngames of late (except the tryhard nurture game).
I have no idea if I have, maybe in Cell2? I remember people being stupid and me getting mad in that game.
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On July 12 2014 02:14 marvellosity wrote:
The other problem is that your partner has been terrified to proffer an opinion. The flipside of this is that as mafia I guess you would encourage him to falsify some sort of opinions. Dno.
He's genuinely away.
And yes, I'd feed him opinions if he was having problem coming up with any. So far we both just post what comes to mind. The point about Haru ridiculing instead of defending my case was all his, and a pretty good point.
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I actually think he's pretty good, or has good amount of potential.
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we did it again! started on a weekend!
Disclaimer: I'm hungover and will get mad.
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lots of cool newbies in this game it looks like. I'm a fan of my teammate, OK and Eden.
less headache now, so I'll try to read the filters of the current lynch candidates to see if I'm okay with it.
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Fuck it, I'm okay with this lynch, mostly because if they're town these guys are actively playing against their win condition and ruining the game for the rest of us by not trying to fight a mislynch on day 1, so either they're assholes or mafia.
So yeah there's that. I'm gonna try to read a few more filters.
I didn't read slam, that's pointless. I read sqrtofneg1's filter. I liked OnceKing's red/green/black sentence on him. sqrt has basically been martyring since then so whatever.
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I feel pretty confident OK's/Eden's teams are town.
Everything nb says makes me want to lynch her, and the previous notion that Tehpoofter was actually playing has completely disappeared. I think their team has a good chance of flipping mafia.
Then there's the other slots. Robik is a bit of a dick as usual, such a shame because he usually has good reads, but because he doesn't get that half of mafia is convincing people, he's basically useless as town most games. ExO_ on the other hand really stood up to me when I was arguing with him, I'm not willing to give him a pass on it, but he just feels too wordy and shit to be mafia. I'm going to assume they're town,
Marv worries me a bit this game. I feel uneasy that he's in a decent position while having done very little, but I also know he's genuinely away, I think we let him slide today, and analyse tomorrow based on what we know. I haven't really looked into mderg's contributions.
Coming up, more stuff.
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On July 13 2014 07:18 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2014 07:09 Eden1892 wrote:On July 13 2014 07:08 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Also, if Slamroot flips town, tell me, what information will we gain from it? none as with every town lynch ever Wrong. You can see who pushed hardest. You can see who defended hardest. You can also see who just sheeped. So much info gained.
And then you have to wifom what all that info means ninjabunnies. You get nothing out of the alignment of the player who flips as town, what you have to do is look at how people pushed shit.
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Btw, if anyone has a case, or a particularly interesting post/point for me to read, I'd love to hear it. Feel free to link your own work. I'm still slightly behind in the thread.
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On July 13 2014 07:24 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2014 07:23 Palmar wrote:On July 13 2014 07:18 27ninjabunnies wrote:On July 13 2014 07:09 Eden1892 wrote:On July 13 2014 07:08 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Also, if Slamroot flips town, tell me, what information will we gain from it? none as with every town lynch ever Wrong. You can see who pushed hardest. You can see who defended hardest. You can also see who just sheeped. So much info gained. And then you have to wifom what all that info means ninjabunnies. You get nothing out of the alignment of the player who flips as town, what you have to do is look at how people pushed shit. Didn't I just say that?
No, you said look at what people do. Who pushed hard? Who defended? Who sheeped? My point is you have to look at how they do it, how did the guy pushing push, how did the guy defending defend, how did the guy sheeping sheep.
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Yeah, that was the post OK got his brilliant sentence from.
It's solid, and I'll support this lynch.
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On July 13 2014 07:27 OnceKing wrote:
palmar please describe more in depth what you're saying about marvderg, and read nb's posts about chairman koshi/offer input on that
right now i have a few town reads i'm pretty confident in, slamroot i'm pretty sure is scum and only a few more holes to fill
The marv/derg thing is basically a massive meta-thing with marv. As I explained I haven't read mderg.
Basically, I townread marv by waiting for him to do something that is really smart. I think he even alluded to it this game, we basically confirm each other as town when he finds something that looks like mafia, and I confirm his suspicion and sheep his case. He hasn't done anything really smart this game or anything that makes me want to lynch him. That doesn't mean he is mafia. I know he is genuinely away today, so he has a perfectly valid excuse. Also his approach to interrogating me felt really fair, as in, he did not want me to look like mafia, he felt like he was simply trying to figure out if I was.
I'll go find those posts by nb, and I also have to read the inactive teams (from what I have read). koshi/chairman, and rayn/slender.
Might not do it this session though, no rush really.
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@Robik, there is still a betting rule.
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Btw, if I self-meta my shitty town play, I reach the conclusion mafia teams must be
a) chairman ray/koshi
b) rayn/slender
why?
Because I haven't read shit from those teams as nothing they've said sounds important at all. I always ignore mafia because they never say anything fun, so if I am correct that I always ignore mafia, these teams must be mafia.
QED
get logickd.
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On July 13 2014 09:01 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2014 08:42 Stratiform wrote:
Okay, I'm back. My reads haven't really changed, and I'm still okay with the current lynch. Even if Slam/sqrt is town, they haven't really been playing to win. Giving up halfway through the day is not a very pro-town move. Comments like this make me want to lynch the shit out of you. Even though such sentiments were offered up earlier by other people, I think this wording is worse.
Quick stratiform, do something, grammar cop is onto us!
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On July 13 2014 09:06 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2014 09:02 IAmRobik wrote:On July 13 2014 08:44 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Awww. Mderg. Didn't see your post. My bad.
Yeah, so my case isn't 100%.
But it's the best I've got so far.
other people I'm reading as town. Koshi and CR, I'm not. IT's what makes the most sense to me.
Sqrt, I'd like to know why OK is scum?
Also, smart or mafia? Can you not be a smart mafia?
And does smart mean I'm a smart town?
So many questions. SCUM TELL!!! SCUM TELL!!! SCUM TELL!!! SCUM TELL!!! SCUM TELL!!! You obviously have no humor. Tis a joke Rob. A Joke.
Wow such mafia, trying to play off scummy shit as jokes.
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On July 13 2014 09:09 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2014 09:06 Palmar wrote:On July 13 2014 09:06 27ninjabunnies wrote:On July 13 2014 09:02 IAmRobik wrote:On July 13 2014 08:44 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Awww. Mderg. Didn't see your post. My bad.
Yeah, so my case isn't 100%.
But it's the best I've got so far.
other people I'm reading as town. Koshi and CR, I'm not. IT's what makes the most sense to me.
Sqrt, I'd like to know why OK is scum?
Also, smart or mafia? Can you not be a smart mafia?
And does smart mean I'm a smart town?
So many questions. SCUM TELL!!! SCUM TELL!!! SCUM TELL!!! SCUM TELL!!! SCUM TELL!!! You obviously have no humor. Tis a joke Rob. A Joke. Wow such mafia, trying to play off scummy shit as jokes. haha how was that scummy? I'm not that stupid to where I would slip such a thing as that. I asked that in order to see where Sqrts thinking is. He said I'm smart, or mafia. If he thinks the first, he obv thinks Im town. So why is that?
So wait, you just said it was a joke, but now you're trying to say you had a point?
You can't do both...
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