Noir Mini Mafia: Chapter 2

On July 16 2014 10:36 IAmRobik wrote:
If anyone even considers laying a finger on Kush this game, I'll have your fucking ballsack

On July 16 2014 12:22 gobbledydook wrote:
lynch the randolyncher

##vote ObiWanShinobi

On July 16 2014 14:07 Sylencia wrote:
I'm guessing that vote is about as serious as yours :|

On July 16 2014 14:17 Sylencia wrote:
Hey Obi, what are your thoughts on the randomised blue/red roles?

On July 16 2014 14:23 Sylencia wrote:
"The Blue role and Mafia roles will be randomly generated."

Was just asking your thoughts on this even though there's really nothing to say about it ^^

On July 16 2014 14:32 Blazinghand wrote:


So, Sylencia, I see you're not voting Robik. What, exactly, is your objection to RNG lynching that you're so afraid to specify?

On July 16 2014 14:36 Blazinghand wrote:


it's mathematically impossible for me to withdraw someone from the rng pool... it's modulo 9. 22604770 mod 9 is 1.

On July 16 2014 14:30 Sylencia wrote:
Zz why does that kind of question get interpreted as role fishing every time I was just asking that because there was literally nothing else going on lol

On July 16 2014 14:49 gobbledydook wrote:
OK Blazinghand is more convincing. lets ##unvote and ##vote iamrobik

The type of rando matters. Cryptographically random randolynches are 100% certified legit. I propose we institute this method as an official standard for random lynch in Liquidian law.

On July 17 2014 02:28 IAmRobik wrote:
So there are some scenarios where you're town obi

1) you're so bad that you decided that if you follow the RNG then you might actually be able to figure out who scum is
2) you are just bitter about me calling you out for sucking, so you're willing to throw the game and lose
3) just kidding, there's no three. you're probably mafia just trying to get me mislynched cause I have good fucking reads on you

On July 17 2014 06:14 IAmRobik wrote:
In what world is that a reasonable reaction?

Yes, that's my meta read on you.
If you're saying that I don't undersatnd your meta, then explain to me what your meta is.
I'm claiming that if you're town, then your meta is to play poorly -- as is evidenced by the fact that you are voting for a townie based off a random number generator --> one that you probably have no clue how it works...I don't know how it works, but I don't really care because I know I'm town. Unless you're mafia, you don't know if I'm town or mafia, but voting on me is bad cause this is definitely my town play.

Voting me out of spite isn't going to help you win any more games. It's only going to put another L by your name. It might make you feel a tiny bit better, but after all that, you're still a dude with a record of L-L-L-L-L-L-L

So, I have to assume that you're not playing well if you're losing all your games

On July 17 2014 08:14 IAmRobik wrote:

You played decently in Order. Your play in World Cup was abysmal. You didn't play too well in Storm. You got mislynched in your newbie games. You're clearly doing something wrong and the fact that you're not reevaluating what you did wrong is hindering your growth.

Following a RNG lynch on a townie isn't going to help you improve your game. Why don't you try to make some ACTUAL reads. If you ACTUALLY think I'm mafia and can come up with reasons for it, then fine, vote me. But like if you're trying to lynch me cause I'm a BM asshole who tells it how it is or cause you want to follow RNG, then that's bad play and I will continue to berate you til I die, and then again in post game...maybe even some in PMs

But again, this is just if your'e town this game. If you're scum, then you're really not making many mistakes other than unvoting me. That was a poor move if you're scum, because I'm sure someone will be dumb enough to come and hammer me cause I annoy them or a I post too much or for whatever poor fucking reason they want to make.

On July 17 2014 08:17 IAmRobik wrote:

Are you saying that you are starting to come to the realization that I'm town, or are you asking why Kush unvoted?

On July 17 2014 08:28 kushm4sta wrote:
the fight between robik and obi needs to stop now plese. no one wants to read that shit.

On July 17 2014 08:32 IAmRobik wrote:
1) I got n1'd in all newbie games that I wasn't mafia, and lived to end game in the one where i was mafia [b]the point of the game is to lynch mafia, mislynching someone else and getting shot isnt good play but for some reason you think that it is.
2) i didn't get lucky. That's like saying poker is about luck. except you did. multiple times.
3) maybe you got shot because someone didn't like you. maybe someone shot you because they thought you were scummy. who knows. probably the people that actually read that game. cora even admitted that he got lucky but i see you didnt bother fact checking. nice.
4) I led mislynches against people who were playing scummy and lying about shit (even if they didn't realize they were lying). On d2 I wanted to lynch you over mderg, but no one would follow me onto you cause of your claim, and I said that poof and you were mafia, and i was nk'd that night BY YOU. mislynches are mislynches. i guess jumping down peoples throats for bad reasons is good play. lol. you also claimed nobody would follow you onto me day 1 but the votes were tied and you had the perfect opportunity to kill me. i guess that doesnt count.
5) i don't have a skewed version of anything. I play the game as I see fit. I push people who I think are scummy. You're not even doing that this game. i guess your defense and trying to steer conversation away from catching scum doesnt count.

AND MOST IMPORTANTLY,
How can you say that I'm getting lynched for contrived bullshit, when all 4 votes on me came before I started shitting up the thread with town rainbows? That's a blatant contradiction of the facts of this game

On July 17 2014 08:36 IAmRobik wrote:
If you think I'm scummy, then you shouldn't be unvoting me. Like wtf are you doing? The only reason to unvote me is if you're town and your reconsidering your original thoughts.

You are having some really big logical breakdowns here Shinobi
##vote: obiwanshinobi aka cavalinho

On July 17 2014 08:49 kushm4sta wrote:
obi, consider the possibility that robik is bad at reading you and he's doing it to pressure you in order to get a better read.

On July 17 2014 11:39 gobbledydook wrote:


Explain? Or should I respond with "Anyway snickers is scum, so obvious"? Because your accusation is worse than BH's RNG.

On July 17 2014 12:18 Snickers wrote:
If you want to see try hard look at my mini mafia (roman number) game hosted by kurami. (not 100% if that is his correctly spelled name, he is from Poland).

That point only makes sense if I am also not try hard when playing town. THIS IS WHERE YOU HAVE SLIPPED. I am tryhard, I double checked your count of four people. You have enough suspicion to vote me but are too lazy to actually do a real check. You retract your vote for terrible reason because you are afraid of what my close reading can do. One scum has been found.

Also clarification. The reason why his filter being entirely questions is bad, is because he completely forced one question. Aka his filter is all forced, nothing genuine.

On July 17 2014 13:26 Snickers wrote:
I dont see how that helps the thread at all. Also I love how kush reads my meta---> I am town. Reads my meta again ----->I am scum. Stop reading me with an alignment in mind.

On July 17 2014 13:26 kushm4sta wrote:
i guess i need to ask you a third time because you aren't answering:
why you say gg was obv scum?
and what was scummy about obi's unvote?

On July 17 2014 13:20 Snickers wrote:

numbers refer to paragraphs.

1. This smells of the shittiest bullshit I have ever heard.

2. Your first post towards me was you seriously asking me about my posts. Next post... BAM VOTE. You did not vote me for shit posts and if you thought they were shit you would not seriously ask me about them. I did nothing in between the time interval for you to think ...good posts...shit posts..

3.If it is a shitcase, why are you acting like I put alot of effort into it. I do not understand the sentence that starts with seems.

Summy is that you are not making anysense and just back peddling yourself.

Any more bad defense posts that I can use for my case against you tomorrow?

So you agree with me to vote and me lol. So you are taking my posts seriously even though you think I am scum. Aka you do not actually think I am scum and are just letting your emotions guide my alignment. Just like kushs meta reads on me.

I am 100% defending myself? lol cause I am not pushing kush. What questions need to be anwsered obi? Let me help you as much as I can.

On July 17 2014 13:45 Snickers wrote:
If you read closely, I was not even talking about that post. And it is time for me to come clean. Off of the top off my head, I said gg was obv scum to get discussion going. The reason I said him was because I find it most likely for scum to be the third one to jump on. Also I think his reasoning was weak. As for obis unvote, his reasoning was also weak.

Now these were mainly to get conversation going so I do not really care if my recalling of details is accurate.

And if Robik wants to read me mafia this game like last game I did something similar, well I would not have such a great case on kush without them .

On July 17 2014 13:50 Snickers wrote:


I really do not understand this. I think you are not reading well. I was talking about kush defending himself. Do you really want me to answer your question in detail of why I said something to get discussion going? You seem to care a little too much.

On July 17 2014 13:45 Snickers wrote:
If you read closely, I was not even talking about that post. And it is time for me to come clean. Off of the top off my head, I said gg was obv scum to get discussion going. The reason I said him was because I find it most likely for scum to be the third one to jump on. Also I think his reasoning was weak. As for obis unvote, his reasoning was also weak.

Now these were mainly to get conversation going so I do not really care if my recalling of details is accurate.

And if Robik wants to read me mafia this game like last game I did something similar, well I would not have such a great case on kush without them .

On July 17 2014 14:09 Snickers wrote:
no that is not sarcasm and this is not either. Start doing something useful please. Unless of course you are extremely tired like I am. I was too tempted with kush's bad mafia play tho.

robik was at l-1, you really think i should sit here and lynch him because rng? what kind of reasoning would i need to unvote him in a "not-scummy" way?

On July 17 2014 14:37 gobbledydook wrote:


snip

On July 17 2014 22:45 IAmRobik wrote:

Your post is almost as bad as MM1's. You essential bitch about me being scum for 30 hours and then you say that I'm incredibly town.

On July 18 2014 02:06 Damdred wrote:


Snickers is acting a bit odd he will probably say a good deal of it was due to him being tired as he alluded to several times in his posts. His actions don't make a lot of sense to me during his discourse with Obi and Kush. He called them both scummy and he decided to avoid the questions they asked, well the questions that he was avoiding most of the thread at the time had asked. After awhile he finally answered and said he was just trying to get conversation going. That answer is really frustrating to me, if he was trying to pressure information out of those two that is ok but yea all of that to just get conversation going when it was already flowing.

He goes on to insult people to do stuff in the thread....However before I say hes scummy I really want to read these cases he says hes going to post today and his explanation on himself.

On July 17 2014 20:13 gobbledydook wrote:


Your reads are confusing, so let me try to rephrase:

1) obi is scum because he did not contribute.

2) obi's 'how is robik's defense working' post seems like a scum expressing disappointment at the fact that robik got off the noose.

3) obi is on a different team to robik


So doesn't that by logic mean robik is town?

Or do you think that if obi flipped town despite your suspicions, then robik would be scum - but why? Why would obi being town make robik scum when you haven't stated what makes robik guilty?

If your answer is that obi and robik are really at odds with each other and are unlikely to be on the same team, then that's not really an argument for obi-town implying robik-scum. Town doesn't know who else is town and it's very common to find 2 townies being mortal enemies. So the enemy of a townie isn't necessarily scum.

On July 18 2014 02:28 Blazinghand wrote:
The fact that robik wasn't hammered when he was at L-1 means either both scum were on his wagon or that he himself is scum. clearly he's scum and mad he got rnged

On July 18 2014 02:42 Blazinghand wrote:
>whines for 48 hours
>claims he fought like hell

yeah 0% chance i'm unvoting you

On July 18 2014 02:59 IAmRobik wrote:
I'll rock paper scissors you for it

The "real" case is that robik was chosen by the infallible rng

On July 18 2014 03:11 IAmRobik wrote:
I'll compromise with you Cava. We lynch BH today and we lynch MM1 tomorrow. Seems super fair to me.

On July 18 2014 05:17 Snickers wrote:
WTF MM you actually think he is the cop? Why the hell would the cop come out when only three votes on him. EXPLAIN YOUR REASONING BH Or I will personally hammer the shit out of you.

On July 18 2014 05:24 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
But i really really don't like obiwanshinobi,

Like The only reason he votes to lynch me is cause i called him mafia. Granted my post may have not been of the highest calibre. However after i post more he says that he has thought about it, and still thinks i'm mafia. Doens't even bother to reavulate his reads. At first I didn't think the fact that he voted on me was scummy but the fact that he hasn't bothered to reevaluate his reads afterwards.

His defense to me calling him scum is good luck trying to mislynch me, my filter is longer is a bullshit reason just like all of his other posts.




also that bolded part of im not getting lynched so i don't have to give reads, is the dumbest shit i have ever heard. Im going to live to the next day so i don't have to say anything worth it is fucking dumb.

##Vote:Obiwanshinobi

On July 18 2014 05:32 IAmRobik wrote:

Not enough energy to yell at everyone.

Also, everyone in this game is playing scumily. I'll let you guys figure out why BH needs to die today no your own. I've already expressed myself

On July 18 2014 05:52 IAmRobik wrote:

Oh yeah? What do you know about lynching non-cc'd PRs d1?

On July 18 2014 05:58 IAmRobik wrote:
##unvote

He's been softing it all day. I hope the town PR cc's though, because even without town PR, I think this game is easily solvable.

Cava,

BH just did what you were down in World Cup. He was hinting at being cop without just coming out and saying it.

On July 18 2014 09:59 kushm4sta wrote:
bh plays bad and he should feel bad.

i'm not sold on mm. I think he has had some townie indicative thoughts. Plus he is a newer player, looks like pretty classic lynch biat.

On July 18 2014 13:08 IAmRobik wrote:
I want to lynch BH regardless for being a donkey

but i'm Blue

On July 18 2014 15:21 Snickers wrote:
Bh show me where you were hinting you as cop in your filter? I only saw one place?

On July 18 2014 15:24 kushm4sta wrote:
so we have 4 claimed blues...

On July 18 2014 15:31 kushm4sta wrote:
bh u are like the king of fake claims. you should be in heaven.
as an avid hater of fake claims this is my hell.

On July 18 2014 15:33 Snickers wrote:
Ok I am the king of creating discussion.

Second off I retract my hard claim.

I soft claim parity cop.

On July 18 2014 15:35 Snickers wrote:
Ok everyone read this sentence and the next sentence carefully. I do not think MM was trolling.

Possibility of Robik trolling > MM trolling.

On July 18 2014 15:36 Snickers wrote:
So you were lying. I unsoftclaim parity cop.

On July 18 2014 15:42 Blazinghand wrote:


I'm beginning to suspect that quite possibly every claim except the one I've made is a joke claim

because this entire game is a joke, every player here is a joke except me and kush

damn it kush, this game is so bad that I like you the best, look at what it's come to

On July 18 2014 15:51 kushm4sta wrote:

dunno

On July 18 2014 15:50 kushm4sta wrote:
sylencia is an invisible player, playing reactive, only jumping on obvious stuff.

On July 18 2014 16:03 kushm4sta wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/451317-detention-mafia?user=gobbledydook

this is gg's filter from his last scum game. he is plenty capable of making posts like that as scum.

On July 18 2014 16:07 kushm4sta wrote:
one thing that looks pretty townie about MM is his townread of snickers. Snickers is a potential mislynch, so I wouldn't expect scum to townread him so easily.

On July 18 2014 16:17 kushm4sta wrote:


This is something I see scum doing a lot. They make a big post defending themselves, then use their defense to justify a vote on someone.
A defense of yourself isn't a reason why someone else is scum.
Then at the end is the one justification of why snickers might be scum. It's an unspecific phrase that means nothing.

On July 19 2014 01:37 Blazinghand wrote:
How is he 100% serious about his claime but also doesn't want to lynch me

ugh kush you're the only one who understands my pain, and is trying to solve the game, and yet here you are voting me

On July 19 2014 04:50 Blazinghand wrote:


Also he's reasonably likely to flip scum, which helps.

On July 21 2014 18:03 gobbledydook wrote:


+2

On July 22 2014 05:55 iamperfection wrote:
a 9 man setup by itself is very uncomfortable for scum to play in. If you have a couple townies playing well it gets very hard to find mislynches. You make it overly complicated with these blue shenanigans just play it straight up.

On July 22 2014 06:52 IAmRobik wrote:
Is there a world where MM1 doesn't get lynched that day? Like ANY WORLD? On a scale of 1-10, how hard would I have to argue for him to not get lynched, and would it even work in the end?