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gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
May 27 2014 00:10 GMT
#5
wtf was the rule violations that got BH in detention?
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gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
May 27 2014 06:12 GMT
#161
Hm, bunnies' case against jabberwockzerg is interesting, but I'm not sure that logic necessarily stands. Specifically, bunnies discounts the possibility that jabber really didn't know who was mafia in the game he looked at and was just plain guessing, not knowing that everyone else knows the answer already. So I would be hesitant to read too deeply into that one lead.
Also bunnies, no coaching discussion t.t

So that's my take on the current lynch flavour of the day, conclusion, I don't think that's good enough to lynch. Would want to hear more from him.

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gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
May 27 2014 09:36 GMT
#169
On May 27 2014 18:34 Palmar wrote:
Ninjabunnies is mafia, I'm going to vote him. Then I'm going to read another page of the game.

##Vote Ninjabunnies

it's because he wrote "XD"


??? Did you become crazy after getting ##Nuked in that other game?
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gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
May 27 2014 09:41 GMT
#171
On May 27 2014 18:40 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2014 18:36 gobbledydook wrote:
On May 27 2014 18:34 Palmar wrote:
Ninjabunnies is mafia, I'm going to vote him. Then I'm going to read another page of the game.

##Vote Ninjabunnies

it's because he wrote "XD"


??? Did you become crazy after getting ##Nuked in that other game?


Do you not think this is a valid case? At least you have to explain to me why you disagree. I think it's a pretty strong case. I should add that I combine it with the "ugh" from his first post, oh and his plea that "can we now hunt some scum?".

Seems pretty ironclad to me.


No I don't think that's a valid case, I think you're trolling.
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gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
May 27 2014 10:04 GMT
#173
On May 27 2014 18:43 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2014 18:41 gobbledydook wrote:
On May 27 2014 18:40 Palmar wrote:
On May 27 2014 18:36 gobbledydook wrote:
On May 27 2014 18:34 Palmar wrote:
Ninjabunnies is mafia, I'm going to vote him. Then I'm going to read another page of the game.

##Vote Ninjabunnies

it's because he wrote "XD"


??? Did you become crazy after getting ##Nuked in that other game?


Do you not think this is a valid case? At least you have to explain to me why you disagree. I think it's a pretty strong case. I should add that I combine it with the "ugh" from his first post, oh and his plea that "can we now hunt some scum?".

Seems pretty ironclad to me.


No I don't think that's a valid case, I think you're trolling.


I'm not, why do you think I'm trolling.

Granted, I'm only about 2 pages or so into the game as we speak, + skimming Ninja's filter. But I feel pretty good about this. Could you elaborate on why you think I'm trolling? Or at least if there is something you don't understand in my case, ask for an explanation?


Because I reject your assumption that XD, ugh and 'can we now hunt some scum' as pointing to any alignment.
I'm done arguing with you on this.
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gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
May 27 2014 14:50 GMT
#194
Palmar I think there is actually a good motivation for him to say those words. If he had not read the last mafia qt to find out who was mafia and only relied on his memory and impressions, he would logically make that comment about differing playstyles. Sure what he said is factually incorrect but I believe it was an honest mistake.

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gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
May 27 2014 23:11 GMT
#308
Well, did jabber just basically admit guilt?

Come on at least make an effort...

##Vote: jabberwockzerg
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gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
May 27 2014 23:12 GMT
#309
oh in bold just in case

##Vote: jabberwockzerg
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gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
May 27 2014 23:29 GMT
#313
On May 28 2014 08:15 27ninjabunnies wrote:
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On May 28 2014 08:11 gobbledydook wrote:
Well, did jabber just basically admit guilt?

Come on at least make an effort...

##Vote: jabberwockzerg


Where did he admit guilt?!


On a phone, so can't really quote, but the part where he says he got caught under a stone. It seems like someone just giving up trying to defend themselves and saying fuck this you got me.
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gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
May 27 2014 23:51 GMT
#322
On May 28 2014 08:47 Alakaslam wrote:
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On May 28 2014 08:45 Palmar wrote:
MZ not everyone in the game is mafia. fuba and haru look bad, jwz is your most likely scumread and you could get behind a lynch on me, and now you're telling sqrtofneg1 that he might be mafia, while in the same breath explaining to him how he can get you to drop your "suspicion".

Welcome to my scum tier.

I agree.


Do you have anything more to add than I Agree?

Personally I feel MZ's bet hedging is more a case of not being confident of his reads more than him trying to scatter attention as a mafia.
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gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
May 28 2014 00:20 GMT
#330
On May 28 2014 09:17 jabberwockzerg wrote:
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On May 28 2014 09:15 Chromatically wrote:
jabber, if you're town you should definitely get in here and defend yourself

working on it

Progress report?
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gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
May 28 2014 01:48 GMT
#383
On May 28 2014 10:34 jabberwockzerg wrote:
Top Scum: Palamar
Just started out weird with the whole ninjabunnies vote and never really did anything
top town: any one of the people initially defending me, as most Mafia would want to turn the town against me ASAP


You are basically copying what sqrt said about Palmar and not really saying anything about your town reads. I feel sorry for having tried to defend you, you have made no useful contributions all day. All you did is flail around like a magikarp out of water screaming im a noob.

Which makes me highly suspect if you aren't flailing on purpose.
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gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
May 28 2014 01:51 GMT
#388
Chromatically I think his defense is pathetic and is trying to use noobiness as a cover.
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gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
May 28 2014 01:55 GMT
#392
On May 28 2014 10:53 27ninjabunnies wrote:
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On May 28 2014 10:51 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/SCV


Is there something wrong with it?

You get icons of higher tier units as your post count and time on TL increase. SCV is the shittiest tier for terran.
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gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
May 28 2014 01:59 GMT
#396
It automatically changes as your TL seniority increases. Only TL staff can customise their icon.
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gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
May 28 2014 02:01 GMT
#398
It depends both on time since joined TL and no of posts.
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gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
May 28 2014 05:32 GMT
#424
so sloosh, what is *your* read on MZ? I have given my read already, basically I think he's not confident in his reads so he's hedging his bets.
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gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
May 29 2014 01:11 GMT
#594
On May 29 2014 07:09 fuba wrote:
Looked at gobbledydook first, since his filter is shorter XD

His initial reaction to bunnies' case, as well as his follow-up reaction to Palmar seem to indicate that he didn't read the entire case against jabber before disagreeing with it (twice), which I don't feel bodes well for him. I think his jump on the wagon also seems kinda strange, since the reason is kinda lame. I mean, there were plenty of ways in which jabber "admitted guilt", and the fact that he said a stone fell on him is the least of those. It's like he's not really thinking about the game. Problem with this is that it could just be general laziness, rather than him being scum.

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On May 28 2014 10:48 gobbledydook wrote:
On May 28 2014 10:34 jabberwockzerg wrote:
Top Scum: Palamar
Just started out weird with the whole ninjabunnies vote and never really did anything
top town: any one of the people initially defending me, as most Mafia would want to turn the town against me ASAP


You are basically copying what sqrt said about Palmar and not really saying anything about your town reads. I feel sorry for having tried to defend you, you have made no useful contributions all day. All you did is flail around like a magikarp out of water screaming im a noob.

Which makes me highly suspect if you aren't flailing on purpose.

If jabber flips scum, this quote would make me think gobble is likely town. This was kind of jabber's last stand, and I don't think the scumteam would shoot down their ally like that. Unless it was some kind of elaborate plan to give gobble some slight towncred after the flip, but that's kinda out there. I do have to say that I don't entirely understand what that last sentence means.

As for what he's said about MZ, I'd have to form an opinion of MZ for myself first XD


First I must disagree with your criticisms of me, the gist of the case against jabber is that he went about lying to conceal information, and then backed that up with really shit defenses, the one which caught my eye at the time I voted him being the 'caught on a stone' argument. That was the last straw for me. If someone's town they just don't say they got 'caught' which implies they were thinking from a mafia mindset, where mafia can be 'caught'.

Of course jabber follows with some more shit defenses, including his list of reads which has no reads actually, and I was criticizing that post for its lack of content. I don't understand how that is 'not reading the whole thread'. I feel that I am right in pointing out that he has made no contributions, which is something townies don't do.

Now fuba, don't call the kettle black. Your vote didn't even come with any explanation whatsoever you just jumped on the bandwagon. Then when mderg questions you on your vote, you then come up with an explanation on why you changed from not lynching him to voting him. You hint at why you think he is guilty later on, without explicitly saying that *I think you are guilty because you are lying* or something like that. Why so non-committal?

sqrtofneg1 has a good point here, you haven't contributed all that much to town except for making non-committal statements about jabberwockzerg. I don't think your 'lol' and then your one line answer to his accusation is anywhere near enough.

Please respond to sqrtofneg1's accusations properly. In particular, show comprehensively what you have contributed to town as a townie, as I don't see much either.
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gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
May 29 2014 01:15 GMT
#595
Dammit, I was making that post before the deadline.

To add some comments about jabberwockzerg flipping town:

With the sort of lying bullshit he's pulled and his complete uselessness to town, I think objectively it was the right lynch.



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gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
May 29 2014 04:24 GMT
#601
On May 29 2014 10:59 fuba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 10:11 gobbledydook wrote:
On May 29 2014 07:09 fuba wrote:
Looked at gobbledydook first, since his filter is shorter XD

His initial reaction to bunnies' case, as well as his follow-up reaction to Palmar seem to indicate that he didn't read the entire case against jabber before disagreeing with it (twice), which I don't feel bodes well for him. I think his jump on the wagon also seems kinda strange, since the reason is kinda lame. I mean, there were plenty of ways in which jabber "admitted guilt", and the fact that he said a stone fell on him is the least of those. It's like he's not really thinking about the game. Problem with this is that it could just be general laziness, rather than him being scum.

On May 28 2014 10:48 gobbledydook wrote:
On May 28 2014 10:34 jabberwockzerg wrote:
Top Scum: Palamar
Just started out weird with the whole ninjabunnies vote and never really did anything
top town: any one of the people initially defending me, as most Mafia would want to turn the town against me ASAP


You are basically copying what sqrt said about Palmar and not really saying anything about your town reads. I feel sorry for having tried to defend you, you have made no useful contributions all day. All you did is flail around like a magikarp out of water screaming im a noob.

Which makes me highly suspect if you aren't flailing on purpose.

If jabber flips scum, this quote would make me think gobble is likely town. This was kind of jabber's last stand, and I don't think the scumteam would shoot down their ally like that. Unless it was some kind of elaborate plan to give gobble some slight towncred after the flip, but that's kinda out there. I do have to say that I don't entirely understand what that last sentence means.

As for what he's said about MZ, I'd have to form an opinion of MZ for myself first XD


First I must disagree with your criticisms of me, the gist of the case against jabber is that he went about lying to conceal information, and then backed that up with really shit defenses, the one which caught my eye at the time I voted him being the 'caught on a stone' argument. That was the last straw for me. If someone's town they just don't say they got 'caught' which implies they were thinking from a mafia mindset, where mafia can be 'caught'.

Of course jabber follows with some more shit defenses, including his list of reads which has no reads actually, and I was criticizing that post for its lack of content. I don't understand how that is 'not reading the whole thread'. I feel that I am right in pointing out that he has made no contributions, which is something townies don't do.

Now fuba, don't call the kettle black. Your vote didn't even come with any explanation whatsoever you just jumped on the bandwagon. Then when mderg questions you on your vote, you then come up with an explanation on why you changed from not lynching him to voting him. You hint at why you think he is guilty later on, without explicitly saying that *I think you are guilty because you are lying* or something like that. Why so non-committal?

sqrtofneg1 has a good point here, you haven't contributed all that much to town except for making non-committal statements about jabberwockzerg. I don't think your 'lol' and then your one line answer to his accusation is anywhere near enough.

Please respond to sqrtofneg1's accusations properly. In particular, show comprehensively what you have contributed to town as a townie, as I don't see much either.

The reason you gave was a semantics argument, when there were actual legit reasons to vote him. I could probably pull up one for every person in the game if I wanted to. He explicitly stated that he was trying to conceal information in order to help himself. How is "caught" a stronger indicator of scum mindset than that? How is "a stone fell on me" the last straw, when he explicitly stated that he was misleading town for his own ends?

I said you weren't reading the cases, which was a fact. It had been made clear that jabber was scum last game, so at the very least he wasn't "just plain guessing" about who was mafia. I'd have to reread my own filter to see why I was even willing to buy that it was a mistake. Like, there's no reason he shouldn't have known Chrom was town. In any case, your point that he could have just been guessing about the scumteam was disproven in the case that you were disagreeing with. Hence how you were disagreeing with the case without reading it.

My reason for the vote, when it was given, was legitimate. Your reason, when it was given, was semantic nonsense. And you say I jumped on the bandwagon as if I wasn't one of the people who started it, lol. Like I just sat myself down and twiddled my thumbs. I'd be lying if I said you saw my whole thought process, because my mind goes crazy with possibilities, but you saw just about everything I found relevant about the jabber lynch. And I'm pretty sure I explicitly said that at least one thing I mentioned was scummy. I make sure to do that when I'm reasonably sure of something, because my thoughts are generally wishy-washy since, you know, as town I can't possibly know anything for certain aside from my own alignment. And I wasn't non-committal. After I voted the second time, and gave my reasons for doing so, I was there for good. My first post when coming back was reasserting that he should be lynched. How in the hell is that non-committal?

And I concede, I only contributed thoughts primarily about one person. The person I thought was scum. You saw my honest thought process, which is kinda what town wants from its townies. How is that not contributing for town? And who says "contributing for town"? A townie would just say "contributing" because "for town" is implied. Who is trying to "contribute for scum"? (Point from paragraph 1 proven)

It's interesting that you were upset that post landed after the deadline. It looks like you had your suspicions that my filter, containing almost exclusively reasons for jabber to be scum, was going to be proven "useless for town" before he even flipped town. However could you have known that?


So now you dismiss my arguments as semantics and then attempt to frame me using semantics. Way to go with your hypocrisy. I'm upset about your arguments being useless to town not because JWZ turned VT, I'm upset about your arguments because you are pretending to be contributing while offering wishy washy one liner posts that suggest you are not willing to commit anywhere. Guess what mafias do? Act wishy washy, post little, and then look for the nearest bandwagon that makes sense.
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