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We should lynch into the clearest read cells first.
We win by hitting 3 scum - this game plays out more like Resistance than traditional mafia. Doesn't matter what quality of players we have at the end. Hitting scum early is best.
That said I think Cell A or B should be first - probably B due to higher activity. Then C, E, D.
ritoky is most sensible for coming up with a similar plan before me.
##Vote: ritoky
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On May 28 2014 11:37 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2014 11:31 slOosh wrote:
We should lynch into the clearest read cells first.
We win by hitting 3 scum - this game plays out more like Resistance than traditional mafia. Doesn't matter what quality of players we have at the end. Hitting scum early is best.
That said I think Cell A or B should be first - probably B due to higher activity. Then C, E, D.
ritoky is most sensible for coming up with a similar plan before me.
##Vote: ritoky So do you have an opinion on these cells players then? Seeing as ritoky's plan is most similar to yours and his was based off of a lot of reads, do yours add up to his?
My plan has nothing to do with current reads?
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I'm stating that those cells would probably offer the clearest reads.
Cell B due to the activity level of poofter and WoS, as well as the contrary stance WoS has taken. I don't know how Cell B will end, but it probably won't be "well ... there's only 1 guy posting so lets coinflip between the other two".
Conversely, Cell D? I don't know these two and would like to avoid a repeat of Cell Mini 1 where we lynch between inactives.
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On May 28 2014 11:53 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2014 11:50 slOosh wrote:On May 28 2014 11:37 Holyflare wrote:On May 28 2014 11:31 slOosh wrote:
We should lynch into the clearest read cells first.
We win by hitting 3 scum - this game plays out more like Resistance than traditional mafia. Doesn't matter what quality of players we have at the end. Hitting scum early is best.
That said I think Cell A or B should be first - probably B due to higher activity. Then C, E, D.
ritoky is most sensible for coming up with a similar plan before me.
##Vote: ritoky So do you have an opinion on these cells players then? Seeing as ritoky's plan is most similar to yours and his was based off of a lot of reads, do yours add up to his? My plan has nothing to do with current reads? Show nested quote +
That said I think Cell A or B should be first - probably B due to higher activity. Then C, E, D.
ritoky is most sensible for coming up with a similar plan before me.
How can you even have a plan if it has nothing to do with reads? You like ritoky's plan but his is based on reads. If you like his plan you therefore must agree with his reads?
Ritoky's plan understands the role of information. That's what I like and view as similar.
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Like, what's the point of running for mayor if you don't even have a plan?
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On May 28 2014 11:58 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2014 11:57 slOosh wrote:
Like, what's the point of running for mayor if you don't even have a plan? Who is running for mayor without a plan? Also I missed this poofter: Show nested quote +
What you think of ObiWan? Do you really like layabout?
I get this odd feeling they both came into the thread upset or something maybe because we already caught Palmer and the noose is tightening around people like thrawn/Shaopi and tambo.
twat face and no are my responses
I'm sorry.
Holyflare, what is your plan for Cell order?
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It is upon that very fact that I'm basing my cell order. Is my plan bad? If so, how?
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Holyflare, did you read Cell Mini 1? If so, what do you think of their ordering?
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On May 28 2014 12:13 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2014 12:12 slOosh wrote:
Holyflare, did you read Cell Mini 1? If so, what do you think of their ordering? I was in that game......... -.- The ordering was something we decided as a group at the end of the day and it WOULD have worked out well if rayn didn't get wasted and fucked up the order. It would have followed the procedure I stated whereby we lynch the easy +town points first.
Oh god ... this is awkward ...
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On May 28 2014 12:19 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2014 12:17 slOosh wrote:On May 28 2014 12:13 Holyflare wrote:On May 28 2014 12:12 slOosh wrote:
Holyflare, did you read Cell Mini 1? If so, what do you think of their ordering? I was in that game......... -.- The ordering was something we decided as a group at the end of the day and it WOULD have worked out well if rayn didn't get wasted and fucked up the order. It would have followed the procedure I stated whereby we lynch the easy +town points first. Oh god ... this is awkward ... where was the question leading?
Well I was going to get at the day 1 cell. Palmar + Sentinel + Coag. Essentially (as I saw it when I read) was that the town wanted to lynch to clear inactives, basically adopting the "who don't we want at LYLO". As evident from how it went down, even had Palmar been town, it would have been a terrible cell as mafia have a larger than normal influence compared to traditional games.
By having an "active" group such as cell B go forth, there is bound to be interaction and a much better shot at hitting the right lynch.
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Yea I'm realizing maybe I did a poor job reading it.
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ObiWanShinobi, do you have a preference of Cell Order?
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On May 29 2014 02:42 Holyflare wrote:
if sloosh does not post soon after posting in detention then he could actually be mafia btw
And if I post I'm mafia? Quite the loaded statement here.
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On May 29 2014 02:53 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2014 02:50 slOosh wrote:On May 29 2014 02:42 Holyflare wrote:
if sloosh does not post soon after posting in detention then he could actually be mafia btw And if I post I'm mafia? Quite the loaded statement here. how does that statement make sense :o? you posted in another game and hadn't posted here yet, people that don't really want to focus on a second game over their first are usually mafia who don't care but you've posted now (albeit nothing noteworthy) so it's all cool 
The idea is that one could easily follow up with "hey he is mafia and only posting when called out". Which you would think people would realize is a pretty frail reason to lynch someone, but I've been mislynched enough times to overestimate the general townie's perceptive abilities.
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On May 29 2014 02:22 batsnacks wrote:
PROPOSED CELL ORDER:
C, A, B, E, D
It's similar to ritoky's with one primary difference. I think the rikoty/MZ team in cell A has too much momentum right now to lynch first. I want to see where that momentum goes and I want to give Odin at least the extra day. If rikoty or MZ are mafia, lynching group A first is making it way too easy for them. I put groups D/E last because I feel like I know the least about them at this point in time.
How is that not specific?
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batsnacks, why C before B?
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On May 28 2014 08:15 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2014 08:08 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 28 2014 08:04 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2014 08:02 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 28 2014 07:59 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2014 07:58 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 28 2014 07:50 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm so hard right now What is with all you boys getting hard. It's mafia. Not sex. Also ritoky i give you 9/10 for the freedom messup. We use our penises to scum hunt. I've already caught thrawn and shaiopi with mine, you lack a penis and haven't caught anyone. Coincidence? I think not... And you are so sure on them, aren't you? Why? What is your evidence. though i agree a bit with shaiopi. He seems to be wanting to disregard holyflare entirely. And the tone of his posts throw me off. I like hf. But that could be due to the cute kitty. I may lack a penis, but I have women's intuition, and boobs and a vagina. Sorry but way more powerful than your penis. My evidence against thrawn is that he must be scum since ritoky and myself are both town My evidence against Shaiopi is that he hates freedom. Two ironclad cases and I'm just getting warmed up. Ohhh.. Process of elimination. Didn't realize he was in your cell. I should probably look at that list. Okay, so why is ritoky more town than thrawn? Has he even (thrawn) commented on anything yet? And are you just basing that case on his mayor post? Also, if you like ritoky for his post(if thats the reason why) what do you not like about hf? George Washington himself personally told me ritoky was town. He said that we must rebel against King Thrawn the third. King Thrawn has not commented on anything yet, he is crazy after all. The problem with HF is that he included kittens, a sure sign of weakness. Also I may still want to policy lynch him after golden sun, I haven't decided on that yet. + Show Spoiler +In all seriousness, I actually have a really good townread off of ritoky based on that post alone. It may change (I would be crushed if it had to) but that sort of entry into the thread is the antithesis of what I'd expect him to do as scum. If anyone has meta arguments against my gut (and George Washington), better tell me now.
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Guhh stupid mouse. Working on case.
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I'm reasonably sure that Meapak_Ziphh is the scum in Cell A.
I believe his strategy is to buddy up hard to one member to get support for lynching the other. Namely, buddying up to ritoky to lynch thrawn, now replaced with Odin.
Take one of his starting posts:
On May 28 2014 07:48 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Where are my cell mates?
I want to analyze the shit out of them
This is quickly followed with a slew of
On May 28 2014 07:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Holy mother of god I know who I'm voting for mayor
I also know who the scum is in my cell.
On May 28 2014 07:50 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm so hard right now
On May 28 2014 07:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm posting this just so everyone knows where I'm at right now
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On May 28 2014 08:15 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2014 08:08 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 28 2014 08:04 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2014 08:02 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 28 2014 07:59 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2014 07:58 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 28 2014 07:50 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm so hard right now What is with all you boys getting hard. It's mafia. Not sex. Also ritoky i give you 9/10 for the freedom messup. We use our penises to scum hunt. I've already caught thrawn and shaiopi with mine, you lack a penis and haven't caught anyone. Coincidence? I think not... And you are so sure on them, aren't you? Why? What is your evidence. though i agree a bit with shaiopi. He seems to be wanting to disregard holyflare entirely. And the tone of his posts throw me off. I like hf. But that could be due to the cute kitty. I may lack a penis, but I have women's intuition, and boobs and a vagina. Sorry but way more powerful than your penis. My evidence against thrawn is that he must be scum since ritoky and myself are both town My evidence against Shaiopi is that he hates freedom. Two ironclad cases and I'm just getting warmed up. Ohhh.. Process of elimination. Didn't realize he was in your cell. I should probably look at that list. Okay, so why is ritoky more town than thrawn? Has he even (thrawn) commented on anything yet? And are you just basing that case on his mayor post? Also, if you like ritoky for his post(if thats the reason why) what do you not like about hf? George Washington himself personally told me ritoky was town. He said that we must rebel against King Thrawn the third.
King Thrawn has not commented on anything yet, he is crazy after all. The problem with HF is that he included kittens, a sure sign of weakness. Also I may still want to policy lynch him after golden sun, I haven't decided on that yet. + Show Spoiler +In all seriousness, I actually have a really good townread off of ritoky based on that post alone. It may change (I would be crushed if it had to) but that sort of entry into the thread is the antithesis of what I'd expect him to do as scum. If anyone has meta arguments against my gut (and George Washington), better tell me now.
This post is roughly an hour or so after the game has started. Thrawn hasn't posted at this point, and ritoky's only post at this point is his platform post.
The only reason why Meapak would act this way as town is if he had a rock solid conviction that ritoky was absolutely 100% town, going solely off his mayor platform post, so much so that no matter what thrawn posts, it wouldn't affect his read. This is absurd. There is no way anyone could have gotten such a strong read off 1 post.
And here is the clincher:
On May 28 2014 08:35 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2014 08:31 ritoky wrote:Personally, I find it strange that holyflare has not commented at all on the strongest case against him as mayor to this point. It may just be that he has been floored by the light of freedom and cannot rebut the awesome truth of murrica. Unlike shiaopi's claims of me being lazy and disappearing from the thread claim, I have no intentions of going quietly into the night. Those of us who fight for freedom day in and day out realize the hard work that it entails. We pull ourselves up by our boot straps, put on our pants one leg at a time, and work to rid the world of all that opposes the power of freedom. We know freedom isn't free. (please click for reference) Furthermore the founding father of freedom, George Washington, has reminded me of 2 things: always trust in the power of freedom and murricans always are first. So to further my case for mayor, I propose that Cell A goes first. It also contains the most obvious scum currently in the case of Thrawn, who clearly hates freedom. The founders themselves approve of this plan. Elect Ritoky so that Cell A can go first<ron swanson flag.gif>
On May 28 2014 08:46 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2014 08:40 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 28 2014 08:35 Tehpoofter wrote:On May 28 2014 07:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
ritoky and thrawn huh? One of you is scum and you're going down the hard way.
Also no to HF as mayor, I'd rather RNG mayor... Dear god RNG already. Did we not learn our lesson in Golden Sun? Although I think that bringing up the bad idea of Rng makes you more town in that mafia would most likely want to secure mayor for themselves leaving it up to RNG sounds more towny thought process but a bad idea. Meh, not really. Mayoral role is mostly useless in this setup, but thanks for playing! So, we lynching Plammar? No bbz we lynch thrawn after we elect ritoky.
On May 29 2014 04:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
##Vote: Ritoky
I will be out for most of the day (PST) but I implore those who are on the fence about voting to at least elect someone who will put either cell A or cell B first.
That said you should obviously vote for freedom
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By lynching into Cell A first, there are absolutely no repercussions. He can say whatever he wants about the other cells, he could bus as hard as he wants, it doesn't matter if he doesn't actually flip since no one can call him out for it. He equates voting Cell A with freedom, which is actually a non reason. He clearly wants cell A to go first, but offers no analysis of why this would be the best course of action. Instead, all he sees is get Cell A first, lynch thrawn, who cares about the rest.
This is indicative of scum mentality, as town would definitely consider how to order things even after they are gone, whereas scum can have their teammates figure out the leftovers.
I believe ritoky has shown good analysis (when it came to actually deciding total cell order), and Odin's first few posts look like he is trying to figure out ritoky. Meapak has done neither, his filter is full of fluff and he is trying to get away with it with a D1 mislynch.
##Vote: Meapak_Ziphh
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On May 29 2014 15:57 slOosh wrote:I'm reasonably sure that Meapak_Ziphh is the scum in Cell A. I believe his strategy is to buddy up hard to one member to get support for lynching the other. Namely, buddying up to ritoky to lynch thrawn, now replaced with Odin. Take one of his starting posts: Show nested quote +On May 28 2014 07:48 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Where are my cell mates?
I want to analyze the shit out of them This is quickly followed with a slew of Show nested quote +On May 28 2014 07:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Holy mother of god I know who I'm voting for mayor
I also know who the scum is in my cell.
Show nested quote +On May 28 2014 07:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm posting this just so everyone knows where I'm at right now
<eagle-American-flag-erection.gif> Show nested quote +On May 28 2014 08:15 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2014 08:08 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 28 2014 08:04 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2014 08:02 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 28 2014 07:59 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2014 07:58 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 28 2014 07:50 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm so hard right now What is with all you boys getting hard. It's mafia. Not sex. Also ritoky i give you 9/10 for the freedom messup. We use our penises to scum hunt. I've already caught thrawn and shaiopi with mine, you lack a penis and haven't caught anyone. Coincidence? I think not... And you are so sure on them, aren't you? Why? What is your evidence. though i agree a bit with shaiopi. He seems to be wanting to disregard holyflare entirely. And the tone of his posts throw me off. I like hf. But that could be due to the cute kitty. I may lack a penis, but I have women's intuition, and boobs and a vagina. Sorry but way more powerful than your penis. My evidence against thrawn is that he must be scum since ritoky and myself are both town My evidence against Shaiopi is that he hates freedom. Two ironclad cases and I'm just getting warmed up. Ohhh.. Process of elimination. Didn't realize he was in your cell. I should probably look at that list. Okay, so why is ritoky more town than thrawn? Has he even (thrawn) commented on anything yet? And are you just basing that case on his mayor post? Also, if you like ritoky for his post(if thats the reason why) what do you not like about hf? George Washington himself personally told me ritoky was town. He said that we must rebel against King Thrawn the third.
King Thrawn has not commented on anything yet, he is crazy after all. The problem with HF is that he included kittens, a sure sign of weakness. Also I may still want to policy lynch him after golden sun, I haven't decided on that yet. + Show Spoiler +In all seriousness, I actually have a really good townread off of ritoky based on that post alone. It may change (I would be crushed if it had to) but that sort of entry into the thread is the antithesis of what I'd expect him to do as scum. If anyone has meta arguments against my gut (and George Washington), better tell me now. This post is roughly an hour or so after the game has started. Thrawn hasn't posted at this point, and ritoky's only post at this point is his platform post. The only reason why Meapak would act this way as town is if he had a rock solid conviction that ritoky was absolutely 100% town, going solely off his mayor platform post, so much so that no matter what thrawn posts, it wouldn't affect his read. This is absurd. There is no way anyone could have gotten such a strong read off 1 post. And here is the clincher: Show nested quote +On May 28 2014 08:35 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2014 08:31 ritoky wrote:Personally, I find it strange that holyflare has not commented at all on the strongest case against him as mayor to this point. It may just be that he has been floored by the light of freedom and cannot rebut the awesome truth of murrica. Unlike shiaopi's claims of me being lazy and disappearing from the thread claim, I have no intentions of going quietly into the night. Those of us who fight for freedom day in and day out realize the hard work that it entails. We pull ourselves up by our boot straps, put on our pants one leg at a time, and work to rid the world of all that opposes the power of freedom. We know freedom isn't free. (please click for reference) Furthermore the founding father of freedom, George Washington, has reminded me of 2 things: always trust in the power of freedom and murricans always are first. So to further my case for mayor, I propose that Cell A goes first. It also contains the most obvious scum currently in the case of Thrawn, who clearly hates freedom. The founders themselves approve of this plan. Elect Ritoky so that Cell A can go first<ron swanson flag.gif> Show nested quote +On May 28 2014 08:46 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2014 08:40 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 28 2014 08:35 Tehpoofter wrote:On May 28 2014 07:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
ritoky and thrawn huh? One of you is scum and you're going down the hard way.
Also no to HF as mayor, I'd rather RNG mayor... Dear god RNG already. Did we not learn our lesson in Golden Sun? Although I think that bringing up the bad idea of Rng makes you more town in that mafia would most likely want to secure mayor for themselves leaving it up to RNG sounds more towny thought process but a bad idea. Meh, not really. Mayoral role is mostly useless in this setup, but thanks for playing! So, we lynching Plammar? No bbz we lynch thrawn after we elect ritoky. Show nested quote +On May 29 2014 04:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
##Vote: Ritoky
I will be out for most of the day (PST) but I implore those who are on the fence about voting to at least elect someone who will put either cell A or cell B first.
That said you should obviously vote for freedom
<eagle / flag / america .gif> By lynching into Cell A first, there are absolutely no repercussions. He can say whatever he wants about the other cells, he could bus as hard as he wants, it doesn't matter if he doesn't actually flip since no one can call him out for it. He equates voting Cell A with freedom, which is actually a non reason. He clearly wants cell A to go first, but offers no analysis of why this would be the best course of action. Instead, all he sees is get Cell A first, lynch thrawn, who cares about the rest. This is indicative of scum mentality, as town would definitely consider how to order things even after they are gone, whereas scum can have their teammates figure out the leftovers. I believe ritoky has shown good analysis (when it came to actually deciding total cell order), and Odin's first few posts look like he is trying to figure out ritoky. Meapak has done neither, his filter is full of fluff and he is trying to get away with it with a D1 mislynch. ##Vote: Meapak_Ziphh
Still needs proper responding to.
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Also could people start putting in votes? It's plurality so order matters.
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On May 30 2014 02:48 Holyflare wrote:and yeh sloosh the crux of your case is that he's buddying ritoky when he shouldn't have any information about alignments and all ritoky was doing was talking about freedom and that he did nothing  so yeh, it's hard not to agree, but does that make him scum or just a towny trolling? what did you make of odin's slew of posts just now?
He spent like 2 hours talking to an empty thread and started deteriorating from there. It looks like genuine frustration of replacing into someone who is considered mafia.
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As for Meapak, if the followup is a PBPA on Odin's filter critiquing his playstyle and hesitance in figuring out who is scum, then yea I'm pretty sure he is scum.
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On May 30 2014 23:10 LoneMeow wrote:Counting of votes:OdinOfPergo (0): Palmarritoky (1): mderg Meapak_Ziphh (5): WaveofShadow, slOosh, layabout, OdinOfPergo, Palmar Not voting (9): mtamburini, ShiaoPi, batsnacks, Meapak_Ziphh, Tehpoofter, ObiWanShinobi, ritoky, Holyflare, 27ninjabunnies Currently, Meapak_Ziphh is set to be lynched.
You have until Friday, May 30 9:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ) to vote.
Voting is mandatory!+ Show Spoiler [Vote counter log] +VOTE: WaveofShadow voted Meapak_Ziphh ( post) VOTE: slOosh voted Meapak_Ziphh ( post) VOTE: layabout voted meapak ziph (Meapak_Ziphh) ( post) VOTE: Palmar voted OdinOfPergo ( post) VOTE: OdinOfPergo voted Meapak_Ziphh ( post) VOTE: mderg voted ritoky ( post) VOTE: Palmar unvoted OdinOfPergo ( post) VOTE: Palmar voted Meapak (Meapak_Ziphh) ( post)
What the crap 5 hours left and 9 not voting?
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People who haven't voted: Vote.
People who have, let's keep discussion on Cell A.
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On May 31 2014 01:37 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2014 01:35 slOosh wrote:
People who haven't voted: Vote.
People who have, let's keep discussion on Cell A. Who should I vote?
Who you think is scum.
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On May 31 2014 01:38 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2014 01:38 slOosh wrote:On May 31 2014 01:37 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 01:35 slOosh wrote:
People who haven't voted: Vote.
People who have, let's keep discussion on Cell A. Who should I vote? Who you think is scum. Who should I think is scum?
In case you missed it
On May 29 2014 15:57 slOosh wrote:I'm reasonably sure that Meapak_Ziphh is the scum in Cell A. I believe his strategy is to buddy up hard to one member to get support for lynching the other. Namely, buddying up to ritoky to lynch thrawn, now replaced with Odin. Take one of his starting posts: Show nested quote +On May 28 2014 07:48 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Where are my cell mates?
I want to analyze the shit out of them This is quickly followed with a slew of Show nested quote +On May 28 2014 07:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Holy mother of god I know who I'm voting for mayor
I also know who the scum is in my cell.
Show nested quote +On May 28 2014 07:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm posting this just so everyone knows where I'm at right now
<eagle-American-flag-erection.gif> Show nested quote +On May 28 2014 08:15 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2014 08:08 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 28 2014 08:04 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2014 08:02 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 28 2014 07:59 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2014 07:58 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 28 2014 07:50 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm so hard right now What is with all you boys getting hard. It's mafia. Not sex. Also ritoky i give you 9/10 for the freedom messup. We use our penises to scum hunt. I've already caught thrawn and shaiopi with mine, you lack a penis and haven't caught anyone. Coincidence? I think not... And you are so sure on them, aren't you? Why? What is your evidence. though i agree a bit with shaiopi. He seems to be wanting to disregard holyflare entirely. And the tone of his posts throw me off. I like hf. But that could be due to the cute kitty. I may lack a penis, but I have women's intuition, and boobs and a vagina. Sorry but way more powerful than your penis. My evidence against thrawn is that he must be scum since ritoky and myself are both town My evidence against Shaiopi is that he hates freedom. Two ironclad cases and I'm just getting warmed up. Ohhh.. Process of elimination. Didn't realize he was in your cell. I should probably look at that list. Okay, so why is ritoky more town than thrawn? Has he even (thrawn) commented on anything yet? And are you just basing that case on his mayor post? Also, if you like ritoky for his post(if thats the reason why) what do you not like about hf? George Washington himself personally told me ritoky was town. He said that we must rebel against King Thrawn the third.
King Thrawn has not commented on anything yet, he is crazy after all. The problem with HF is that he included kittens, a sure sign of weakness. Also I may still want to policy lynch him after golden sun, I haven't decided on that yet. + Show Spoiler +In all seriousness, I actually have a really good townread off of ritoky based on that post alone. It may change (I would be crushed if it had to) but that sort of entry into the thread is the antithesis of what I'd expect him to do as scum. If anyone has meta arguments against my gut (and George Washington), better tell me now. This post is roughly an hour or so after the game has started. Thrawn hasn't posted at this point, and ritoky's only post at this point is his platform post. The only reason why Meapak would act this way as town is if he had a rock solid conviction that ritoky was absolutely 100% town, going solely off his mayor platform post, so much so that no matter what thrawn posts, it wouldn't affect his read. This is absurd. There is no way anyone could have gotten such a strong read off 1 post. And here is the clincher: Show nested quote +On May 28 2014 08:35 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2014 08:31 ritoky wrote:Personally, I find it strange that holyflare has not commented at all on the strongest case against him as mayor to this point. It may just be that he has been floored by the light of freedom and cannot rebut the awesome truth of murrica. Unlike shiaopi's claims of me being lazy and disappearing from the thread claim, I have no intentions of going quietly into the night. Those of us who fight for freedom day in and day out realize the hard work that it entails. We pull ourselves up by our boot straps, put on our pants one leg at a time, and work to rid the world of all that opposes the power of freedom. We know freedom isn't free. (please click for reference) Furthermore the founding father of freedom, George Washington, has reminded me of 2 things: always trust in the power of freedom and murricans always are first. So to further my case for mayor, I propose that Cell A goes first. It also contains the most obvious scum currently in the case of Thrawn, who clearly hates freedom. The founders themselves approve of this plan. Elect Ritoky so that Cell A can go first<ron swanson flag.gif> Show nested quote +On May 28 2014 08:46 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2014 08:40 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 28 2014 08:35 Tehpoofter wrote:On May 28 2014 07:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
ritoky and thrawn huh? One of you is scum and you're going down the hard way.
Also no to HF as mayor, I'd rather RNG mayor... Dear god RNG already. Did we not learn our lesson in Golden Sun? Although I think that bringing up the bad idea of Rng makes you more town in that mafia would most likely want to secure mayor for themselves leaving it up to RNG sounds more towny thought process but a bad idea. Meh, not really. Mayoral role is mostly useless in this setup, but thanks for playing! So, we lynching Plammar? No bbz we lynch thrawn after we elect ritoky. Show nested quote +On May 29 2014 04:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
##Vote: Ritoky
I will be out for most of the day (PST) but I implore those who are on the fence about voting to at least elect someone who will put either cell A or cell B first.
That said you should obviously vote for freedom
<eagle / flag / america .gif> By lynching into Cell A first, there are absolutely no repercussions. He can say whatever he wants about the other cells, he could bus as hard as he wants, it doesn't matter if he doesn't actually flip since no one can call him out for it. He equates voting Cell A with freedom, which is actually a non reason. He clearly wants cell A to go first, but offers no analysis of why this would be the best course of action. Instead, all he sees is get Cell A first, lynch thrawn, who cares about the rest. This is indicative of scum mentality, as town would definitely consider how to order things even after they are gone, whereas scum can have their teammates figure out the leftovers. I believe ritoky has shown good analysis (when it came to actually deciding total cell order), and Odin's first few posts look like he is trying to figure out ritoky. Meapak has done neither, his filter is full of fluff and he is trying to get away with it with a D1 mislynch. ##Vote: Meapak_Ziphh
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On May 31 2014 01:42 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2014 01:40 slOosh wrote:On May 31 2014 01:38 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 01:38 slOosh wrote:On May 31 2014 01:37 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 01:35 slOosh wrote:
People who haven't voted: Vote.
People who have, let's keep discussion on Cell A. Who should I vote? Who you think is scum. Who should I think is scum? In case you missed it On May 29 2014 15:57 slOosh wrote:I'm reasonably sure that Meapak_Ziphh is the scum in Cell A. I believe his strategy is to buddy up hard to one member to get support for lynching the other. Namely, buddying up to ritoky to lynch thrawn, now replaced with Odin. Take one of his starting posts: On May 28 2014 07:48 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Where are my cell mates?
I want to analyze the shit out of them This is quickly followed with a slew of On May 28 2014 07:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Holy mother of god I know who I'm voting for mayor
I also know who the scum is in my cell.
On May 28 2014 07:50 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm so hard right now On May 28 2014 07:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm posting this just so everyone knows where I'm at right now
<eagle-American-flag-erection.gif> On May 28 2014 08:15 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2014 08:08 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 28 2014 08:04 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2014 08:02 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 28 2014 07:59 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2014 07:58 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 28 2014 07:50 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm so hard right now What is with all you boys getting hard. It's mafia. Not sex. Also ritoky i give you 9/10 for the freedom messup. We use our penises to scum hunt. I've already caught thrawn and shaiopi with mine, you lack a penis and haven't caught anyone. Coincidence? I think not... And you are so sure on them, aren't you? Why? What is your evidence. though i agree a bit with shaiopi. He seems to be wanting to disregard holyflare entirely. And the tone of his posts throw me off. I like hf. But that could be due to the cute kitty. I may lack a penis, but I have women's intuition, and boobs and a vagina. Sorry but way more powerful than your penis. My evidence against thrawn is that he must be scum since ritoky and myself are both town My evidence against Shaiopi is that he hates freedom. Two ironclad cases and I'm just getting warmed up. Ohhh.. Process of elimination. Didn't realize he was in your cell. I should probably look at that list. Okay, so why is ritoky more town than thrawn? Has he even (thrawn) commented on anything yet? And are you just basing that case on his mayor post? Also, if you like ritoky for his post(if thats the reason why) what do you not like about hf? George Washington himself personally told me ritoky was town. He said that we must rebel against King Thrawn the third.
King Thrawn has not commented on anything yet, he is crazy after all. The problem with HF is that he included kittens, a sure sign of weakness. Also I may still want to policy lynch him after golden sun, I haven't decided on that yet. + Show Spoiler +In all seriousness, I actually have a really good townread off of ritoky based on that post alone. It may change (I would be crushed if it had to) but that sort of entry into the thread is the antithesis of what I'd expect him to do as scum. If anyone has meta arguments against my gut (and George Washington), better tell me now. This post is roughly an hour or so after the game has started. Thrawn hasn't posted at this point, and ritoky's only post at this point is his platform post. The only reason why Meapak would act this way as town is if he had a rock solid conviction that ritoky was absolutely 100% town, going solely off his mayor platform post, so much so that no matter what thrawn posts, it wouldn't affect his read. This is absurd. There is no way anyone could have gotten such a strong read off 1 post. And here is the clincher: On May 28 2014 08:35 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2014 08:31 ritoky wrote:Personally, I find it strange that holyflare has not commented at all on the strongest case against him as mayor to this point. It may just be that he has been floored by the light of freedom and cannot rebut the awesome truth of murrica. Unlike shiaopi's claims of me being lazy and disappearing from the thread claim, I have no intentions of going quietly into the night. Those of us who fight for freedom day in and day out realize the hard work that it entails. We pull ourselves up by our boot straps, put on our pants one leg at a time, and work to rid the world of all that opposes the power of freedom. We know freedom isn't free. (please click for reference) Furthermore the founding father of freedom, George Washington, has reminded me of 2 things: always trust in the power of freedom and murricans always are first. So to further my case for mayor, I propose that Cell A goes first. It also contains the most obvious scum currently in the case of Thrawn, who clearly hates freedom. The founders themselves approve of this plan. Elect Ritoky so that Cell A can go first<ron swanson flag.gif> On May 28 2014 08:46 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2014 08:40 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 28 2014 08:35 Tehpoofter wrote:On May 28 2014 07:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
ritoky and thrawn huh? One of you is scum and you're going down the hard way.
Also no to HF as mayor, I'd rather RNG mayor... Dear god RNG already. Did we not learn our lesson in Golden Sun? Although I think that bringing up the bad idea of Rng makes you more town in that mafia would most likely want to secure mayor for themselves leaving it up to RNG sounds more towny thought process but a bad idea. Meh, not really. Mayoral role is mostly useless in this setup, but thanks for playing! So, we lynching Plammar? No bbz we lynch thrawn after we elect ritoky. On May 29 2014 04:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
##Vote: Ritoky
I will be out for most of the day (PST) but I implore those who are on the fence about voting to at least elect someone who will put either cell A or cell B first.
That said you should obviously vote for freedom
<eagle / flag / america .gif> By lynching into Cell A first, there are absolutely no repercussions. He can say whatever he wants about the other cells, he could bus as hard as he wants, it doesn't matter if he doesn't actually flip since no one can call him out for it. He equates voting Cell A with freedom, which is actually a non reason. He clearly wants cell A to go first, but offers no analysis of why this would be the best course of action. Instead, all he sees is get Cell A first, lynch thrawn, who cares about the rest. This is indicative of scum mentality, as town would definitely consider how to order things even after they are gone, whereas scum can have their teammates figure out the leftovers. I believe ritoky has shown good analysis (when it came to actually deciding total cell order), and Odin's first few posts look like he is trying to figure out ritoky. Meapak has done neither, his filter is full of fluff and he is trying to get away with it with a D1 mislynch. ##Vote: Meapak_Ziphh That's the person YOU think is scum. What if the person I think is scum is different from the person you think is scum? Would you rather I voted for the person you think is scum or the person I think is scum?
What??
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On May 31 2014 01:46 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2014 01:45 slOosh wrote:On May 31 2014 01:42 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 01:40 slOosh wrote:On May 31 2014 01:38 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 01:38 slOosh wrote:On May 31 2014 01:37 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 01:35 slOosh wrote:
People who haven't voted: Vote.
People who have, let's keep discussion on Cell A. Who should I vote? Who you think is scum. Who should I think is scum? In case you missed it On May 29 2014 15:57 slOosh wrote:I'm reasonably sure that Meapak_Ziphh is the scum in Cell A. I believe his strategy is to buddy up hard to one member to get support for lynching the other. Namely, buddying up to ritoky to lynch thrawn, now replaced with Odin. Take one of his starting posts: On May 28 2014 07:48 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Where are my cell mates?
I want to analyze the shit out of them This is quickly followed with a slew of On May 28 2014 07:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Holy mother of god I know who I'm voting for mayor
I also know who the scum is in my cell.
On May 28 2014 07:50 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm so hard right now On May 28 2014 07:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm posting this just so everyone knows where I'm at right now
<eagle-American-flag-erection.gif> On May 28 2014 08:15 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2014 08:08 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 28 2014 08:04 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2014 08:02 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 28 2014 07:59 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
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We use our penises to scum hunt.
I've already caught thrawn and shaiopi with mine, you lack a penis and haven't caught anyone. Coincidence? I think not... And you are so sure on them, aren't you? Why? What is your evidence. though i agree a bit with shaiopi. He seems to be wanting to disregard holyflare entirely. And the tone of his posts throw me off. I like hf. But that could be due to the cute kitty. I may lack a penis, but I have women's intuition, and boobs and a vagina. Sorry but way more powerful than your penis. My evidence against thrawn is that he must be scum since ritoky and myself are both town My evidence against Shaiopi is that he hates freedom. Two ironclad cases and I'm just getting warmed up. Ohhh.. Process of elimination. Didn't realize he was in your cell. I should probably look at that list. Okay, so why is ritoky more town than thrawn? Has he even (thrawn) commented on anything yet? And are you just basing that case on his mayor post? Also, if you like ritoky for his post(if thats the reason why) what do you not like about hf? George Washington himself personally told me ritoky was town. He said that we must rebel against King Thrawn the third.
King Thrawn has not commented on anything yet, he is crazy after all. The problem with HF is that he included kittens, a sure sign of weakness. Also I may still want to policy lynch him after golden sun, I haven't decided on that yet. + Show Spoiler +In all seriousness, I actually have a really good townread off of ritoky based on that post alone. It may change (I would be crushed if it had to) but that sort of entry into the thread is the antithesis of what I'd expect him to do as scum. If anyone has meta arguments against my gut (and George Washington), better tell me now. This post is roughly an hour or so after the game has started. Thrawn hasn't posted at this point, and ritoky's only post at this point is his platform post. The only reason why Meapak would act this way as town is if he had a rock solid conviction that ritoky was absolutely 100% town, going solely off his mayor platform post, so much so that no matter what thrawn posts, it wouldn't affect his read. This is absurd. There is no way anyone could have gotten such a strong read off 1 post. And here is the clincher: On May 28 2014 08:35 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2014 08:31 ritoky wrote:Personally, I find it strange that holyflare has not commented at all on the strongest case against him as mayor to this point. It may just be that he has been floored by the light of freedom and cannot rebut the awesome truth of murrica. Unlike shiaopi's claims of me being lazy and disappearing from the thread claim, I have no intentions of going quietly into the night. Those of us who fight for freedom day in and day out realize the hard work that it entails. We pull ourselves up by our boot straps, put on our pants one leg at a time, and work to rid the world of all that opposes the power of freedom. We know freedom isn't free. (please click for reference) Furthermore the founding father of freedom, George Washington, has reminded me of 2 things: always trust in the power of freedom and murricans always are first. So to further my case for mayor, I propose that Cell A goes first. It also contains the most obvious scum currently in the case of Thrawn, who clearly hates freedom. The founders themselves approve of this plan. Elect Ritoky so that Cell A can go first<ron swanson flag.gif> On May 28 2014 08:46 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2014 08:40 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 28 2014 08:35 Tehpoofter wrote:On May 28 2014 07:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
ritoky and thrawn huh? One of you is scum and you're going down the hard way.
Also no to HF as mayor, I'd rather RNG mayor... Dear god RNG already. Did we not learn our lesson in Golden Sun? Although I think that bringing up the bad idea of Rng makes you more town in that mafia would most likely want to secure mayor for themselves leaving it up to RNG sounds more towny thought process but a bad idea. Meh, not really. Mayoral role is mostly useless in this setup, but thanks for playing! So, we lynching Plammar? No bbz we lynch thrawn after we elect ritoky. On May 29 2014 04:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
##Vote: Ritoky
I will be out for most of the day (PST) but I implore those who are on the fence about voting to at least elect someone who will put either cell A or cell B first.
That said you should obviously vote for freedom
<eagle / flag / america .gif> By lynching into Cell A first, there are absolutely no repercussions. He can say whatever he wants about the other cells, he could bus as hard as he wants, it doesn't matter if he doesn't actually flip since no one can call him out for it. He equates voting Cell A with freedom, which is actually a non reason. He clearly wants cell A to go first, but offers no analysis of why this would be the best course of action. Instead, all he sees is get Cell A first, lynch thrawn, who cares about the rest. This is indicative of scum mentality, as town would definitely consider how to order things even after they are gone, whereas scum can have their teammates figure out the leftovers. I believe ritoky has shown good analysis (when it came to actually deciding total cell order), and Odin's first few posts look like he is trying to figure out ritoky. Meapak has done neither, his filter is full of fluff and he is trying to get away with it with a D1 mislynch. ##Vote: Meapak_Ziphh That's the person YOU think is scum. What if the person I think is scum is different from the person you think is scum? Would you rather I voted for the person you think is scum or the person I think is scum? What?? You think MZ is scum. How would it make you feel if I voted ritoky or Odin? There's only two of them so I don't think it's unreasonable to ask how you feel about both options.
I'd think you are wrong, and depending on your explanations for voting them I might consider you scum.
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On May 31 2014 01:49 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2014 01:47 slOosh wrote:On May 31 2014 01:46 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 01:45 slOosh wrote:On May 31 2014 01:42 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 01:40 slOosh wrote:On May 31 2014 01:38 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 01:38 slOosh wrote:On May 31 2014 01:37 batsnacks wrote:On May 31 2014 01:35 slOosh wrote:
People who haven't voted: Vote.
People who have, let's keep discussion on Cell A. Who should I vote? Who you think is scum. Who should I think is scum? In case you missed it On May 29 2014 15:57 slOosh wrote:I'm reasonably sure that Meapak_Ziphh is the scum in Cell A. I believe his strategy is to buddy up hard to one member to get support for lynching the other. Namely, buddying up to ritoky to lynch thrawn, now replaced with Odin. Take one of his starting posts: On May 28 2014 07:48 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Where are my cell mates?
I want to analyze the shit out of them This is quickly followed with a slew of On May 28 2014 07:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Holy mother of god I know who I'm voting for mayor
I also know who the scum is in my cell.
On May 28 2014 07:50 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm so hard right now On May 28 2014 07:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm posting this just so everyone knows where I'm at right now
<eagle-American-flag-erection.gif> On May 28 2014 08:15 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2014 08:08 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 28 2014 08:04 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
[quote]
My evidence against thrawn is that he must be scum since ritoky and myself are both town
My evidence against Shaiopi is that he hates freedom.
Two ironclad cases and I'm just getting warmed up. Ohhh.. Process of elimination. Didn't realize he was in your cell. I should probably look at that list. Okay, so why is ritoky more town than thrawn? Has he even (thrawn) commented on anything yet? And are you just basing that case on his mayor post? Also, if you like ritoky for his post(if thats the reason why) what do you not like about hf? George Washington himself personally told me ritoky was town. He said that we must rebel against King Thrawn the third.
King Thrawn has not commented on anything yet, he is crazy after all. The problem with HF is that he included kittens, a sure sign of weakness. Also I may still want to policy lynch him after golden sun, I haven't decided on that yet. + Show Spoiler +In all seriousness, I actually have a really good townread off of ritoky based on that post alone. It may change (I would be crushed if it had to) but that sort of entry into the thread is the antithesis of what I'd expect him to do as scum. If anyone has meta arguments against my gut (and George Washington), better tell me now. This post is roughly an hour or so after the game has started. Thrawn hasn't posted at this point, and ritoky's only post at this point is his platform post. The only reason why Meapak would act this way as town is if he had a rock solid conviction that ritoky was absolutely 100% town, going solely off his mayor platform post, so much so that no matter what thrawn posts, it wouldn't affect his read. This is absurd. There is no way anyone could have gotten such a strong read off 1 post. And here is the clincher: On May 28 2014 08:35 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2014 08:31 ritoky wrote:Personally, I find it strange that holyflare has not commented at all on the strongest case against him as mayor to this point. It may just be that he has been floored by the light of freedom and cannot rebut the awesome truth of murrica. Unlike shiaopi's claims of me being lazy and disappearing from the thread claim, I have no intentions of going quietly into the night. Those of us who fight for freedom day in and day out realize the hard work that it entails. We pull ourselves up by our boot straps, put on our pants one leg at a time, and work to rid the world of all that opposes the power of freedom. We know freedom isn't free. (please click for reference) Furthermore the founding father of freedom, George Washington, has reminded me of 2 things: always trust in the power of freedom and murricans always are first. So to further my case for mayor, I propose that Cell A goes first. It also contains the most obvious scum currently in the case of Thrawn, who clearly hates freedom. The founders themselves approve of this plan. Elect Ritoky so that Cell A can go first<ron swanson flag.gif> On May 28 2014 08:46 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2014 08:40 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 28 2014 08:35 Tehpoofter wrote:
[quote]
Dear god RNG already. Did we not learn our lesson in Golden Sun? Although I think that bringing up the bad idea of Rng makes you more town in that mafia would most likely want to secure mayor for themselves leaving it up to RNG sounds more towny thought process but a bad idea. Meh, not really. Mayoral role is mostly useless in this setup, but thanks for playing! So, we lynching Plammar? No bbz we lynch thrawn after we elect ritoky. On May 29 2014 04:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
##Vote: Ritoky
I will be out for most of the day (PST) but I implore those who are on the fence about voting to at least elect someone who will put either cell A or cell B first.
That said you should obviously vote for freedom
<eagle / flag / america .gif> By lynching into Cell A first, there are absolutely no repercussions. He can say whatever he wants about the other cells, he could bus as hard as he wants, it doesn't matter if he doesn't actually flip since no one can call him out for it. He equates voting Cell A with freedom, which is actually a non reason. He clearly wants cell A to go first, but offers no analysis of why this would be the best course of action. Instead, all he sees is get Cell A first, lynch thrawn, who cares about the rest. This is indicative of scum mentality, as town would definitely consider how to order things even after they are gone, whereas scum can have their teammates figure out the leftovers. I believe ritoky has shown good analysis (when it came to actually deciding total cell order), and Odin's first few posts look like he is trying to figure out ritoky. Meapak has done neither, his filter is full of fluff and he is trying to get away with it with a D1 mislynch. ##Vote: Meapak_Ziphh That's the person YOU think is scum. What if the person I think is scum is different from the person you think is scum? Would you rather I voted for the person you think is scum or the person I think is scum? What?? You think MZ is scum. How would it make you feel if I voted ritoky or Odin? There's only two of them so I don't think it's unreasonable to ask how you feel about both options. I'd think you are wrong, and depending on your explanations for voting them I might consider you scum. Lets say I did like Palmar and didn't offer you any explanation. Would you consider me scum for that?
It would add on to my considerations. How is any of this relevant for making your decision?
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IAmRobik, who do you think is the scum in your cell?
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HolyFlare why are you arguing with someone you think is scum?
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Seems like he doesn't want to engage with reads either because he is scum and doesn't want to talk reads or he firmly believes robik is scum.
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I'm reading up right now.
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Right, I understand where you are coming from. However I've been busy due to trying to play 2 games so there was skimming involved. Now that I'm done with one, I can focus on this one properly.
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But yes, the gut feeling is currently yes.
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Yea ok this is really weird.
Gut read, IAmRobik is scum because he doesn't have any analysis or meaningful reads or anything on the three lynch candidates.
You see posts like these where he affirms it himself
On May 31 2014 05:08 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2014 05:05 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 31 2014 05:02 IAmRobik wrote:On May 31 2014 04:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
Poofter Where in the actual fuck are you?
I swear I'm this fuckinga close to changing my mind and actually believing palmar is town. (Not really but still)
As for MZ, he is a fighter. I've seen him play like this before going down, and he is playing well. It's unfortunate that ritoky right now is playing like shit and making our decision difficult.
What's with all of this flip flop bullshit? Robik how in the actual fuck can you be voting for Odin? I really really wanted to vote for MZ, but that would mean that the bus in my group is real and I don't want to believe that scum would want to bus a d1 lynch.
As for Ritoky, I was his coach in his newbie game. While he says he's been playing online mafia for 5+ years, nothing that he did in that newbie game would lead me to believe that he would man up and take the reigns and try to be town mayor. The fact that he did that, given my perception that he would be timid as town, makes me think that he is town BECAUSE I don't think that a timid town instantly turns into an outspoken mafia. This is a horrible reason not to vote for MZ, and a barely decent reason not to vote for ritoky. You have no idea what newbies are capable of, ESPECIALLY if he's not actually a newbie. He was plenty aggressive in his last game as town iirc, and I see no reason why he couldn't put it on as scum too. There is zero reason why first time scummers (on this site, anyway) need to be assumed to be timid their first time. On top of that, neither of these are reasons for Odin ACTUALLY BEING SCUM< when you said yourself you read the early posts and assumed he was town. I just read like 2 posts of his and decided that...I didn't read any of his early stuff until I read whatever MZ quoted. I haven't read the drunk stuff that people cleared him for, but I assumed it was clear-worthy. I was mostly just going along with the consensus of people who were calling him town backed by my own insta-read on him.
On May 31 2014 03:56 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2014 03:55 IAmRobik wrote:
So like, I'm town and the fact that both people in my cell are voting for meapak should scare the shit out of everyone and everyone should prolly switch off.
kthx For the record, I have 0 other reason to believe he's town.
No nothing.
But in that same post is something I'm finding incredibly towny:
On May 31 2014 03:55 IAmRobik wrote:
So like, I'm town and the fact that both people in my cell are voting for meapak should scare the shit out of everyone and everyone should prolly switch off.
kthx
I find it hard to believe that scum would have the foresight to be able to call out something like this. Usually as scum you just sheep along other people, maybe parrot some words here and there if needed. All you need is to stick your vote on someone and just enough that people don't do a double take. Gaming the setup like that seems like a very advanced play for uhh what seems like a ... newer mafia player.
So I'm mulling over that right now
... but chances are that he is probably scum because he hasn't done crap trying to figure out his own cell's alignment the day they are getting lynched. It's just weird.
##Vote: IAmRobik
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On June 01 2014 05:02 mtamburini wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2014 03:05 Holyflare wrote:On June 01 2014 02:59 batsnacks wrote:
Holyflare who's mafia in Cell D and E? cell d i honestly have no clue, obi's only contribution is a terrible case on me when it wasn't even relevant and was bad and he voted mz for "plot holes in his reasoning" but never explained that and wasted time, tambo is just.. like afk all the time and when he returns he goes on bunnies for reasons of fucking rng discussion -.- major useless waste of time, sloosh had a case that i liked but that's the only thing that i liked and other than that he has done absolutely 0 things so really cell d is complete shit cell e, i like bunnies, she went tryhard on filtering people when it didnt' really need to be done if she was mafia because i'm pretty sure she had good reasons to begin with, she's put in a lot of effort and all that jazz. i already made my reasons for mderg but i wouldn't honestly be surprised if it was layabout because he has also done 0 things That bunnies read is total horseshit which us just as bad as bullshit. She's a try hard as either alignment. To say someone wouldn't put that much effort as scum is redonkulous. My vote is leaning towards HF but I haven't read any filters yet
I'll be back in about 3 hours or so going to watch mls game tfc vs the crew field level seats
Why is it leaning towards HF?
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On June 01 2014 11:52 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2014 11:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
i...bolded the specifics?
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fine, ill humor you. youre calling a lot of the posts he has in his filter towny but youre still scumreading him. theres a huge problem with your case if you keep calling someone towny and then vote them anyway. He's saying one post in his filter is towny? That post is also an easy excuse for mafia to not sheep a read. He says he follows consensus on read for odin without reading and he also scum read mz. If he knew town consensus was on mz then it was very very very likely mz would get bussed so this is a bs excuse to use at the time.
Yea this was along the lines I was thinking. He doesn't consider bussing as a possibility even though the votes were stacked on MZ before his cell voted.
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For reference, the vote count before HF & bats voted MZ.
On May 31 2014 03:33 LoneMeow wrote:Counting of votes:OdinOfPergo (0): Palmarritoky (2): mderg, Palmar Meapak_Ziphh (5): WaveofShadow, slOosh, layabout, OdinOfPergo, Palmar, ObiWanShinobi Not voting (8): mtamburini, ShiaoPi, batsnacks, Meapak_Ziphh, Tehpoofter, ritoky, Holyflare, 27ninjabunnies Currently, Meapak_Ziphh is set to be lynched.
You have until Friday, May 30 9:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ) to vote.
Voting is mandatory!+ Show Spoiler [Vote counter log] +VOTE: WaveofShadow voted Meapak_Ziphh ( post) VOTE: slOosh voted Meapak_Ziphh ( post) VOTE: layabout voted meapak ziph (Meapak_Ziphh) ( post) VOTE: Palmar voted OdinOfPergo ( post) VOTE: OdinOfPergo voted Meapak_Ziphh ( post) VOTE: mderg voted ritoky ( post) VOTE: Palmar unvoted OdinOfPergo ( post) VOTE: Palmar voted Meapak (Meapak_Ziphh) ( post) VOTE: ObiWanShinobi voted meapak (Meapak_Ziphh) ( post) VOTE: Palmar unvoted Meapak_Ziphh ( post) VOTE: Palmar voted ritoky ( post)
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On that note, ObiWanShinobi, where's your vote?
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On May 30 2014 13:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Holyflarebelow is a quote of his mayoral platform: + Show Spoiler +On May 28 2014 07:01 Holyflare wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/SbSFDW4.png) VOTE HOLYFLARE FOR MAYOR - Do you like winning games?
- Do you want someone in power who is charming, friendly and a sexy beast?
- Do you want a free and easy point in towns favour when it comes to winning my cell?
- Do you want someone that will listen to the people when it comes to deciding the lynch order?
- Do you want a romantic walk on the beach anytime you and me are together and a beach is nearby?
If you answered yes to any of those questions then I am the man for you. If you click my profile you will see that I have an enormous amount of wins in a row. This is purely because of the fact that i'm good. If I'm mafia i'll be bussing and you should be getting free points regardless. I love to bus and this setup is majorly favoured for that. If I'm town I'll be right anyway so what have you got to lose? It's win/win for everybody! Everybody but scum that is. We hate those scum. Not only that but I've already crumbed my role in this post. Is it not obvious? I'm green. Green is the colour of town. I am town. You should love to follow someone who is good and is town. So, naturally, you should follow me. Follow me to victory that is. Who likes winning? I do! In a recent survey of everyone on this planet, people had the following things to say about my mafia abilities: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/16LdNY6.jpg) Do you SEE THAT? I'm a team-player, a proactive problem-solver! Most importantly, I am hard. I am so very aroused at the mere idea of winning that it's simply the only thing I can do. Will you join me? Will you, too, feel this hard? A vote for me is a vote for winning. ##Vote Holyflare at a glance, it looks really nice and well put together so it makes you think that he cares about the position and the fact that hes trying to solve the game. the reality of it is that theres no content at all in this post, or almost any of the posts that follow: Show nested quote +What is time? Time is just an arbitrary parameter by which many people live their lives. I transcend time. What more could you ask for in a mayor than someone who transcends the paramater by which humanity lives? I am no human. I am Holyflare. I am your next mayor. Show nested quote +Here's the thing. As your future mayor I know what people want. People want to be listened to, to be acknowledged. As a man elected by the people I am a servant of the people. I will follow the whim of the majority for that is the honourable leader that I am. Show nested quote +Fail to plan, plan to fail. That's the motto most live by. I am not most. I foresee that a pre-emptive plan will be useless in a game such as this. While I am your future mayor, I am not omniscient!
It is with this in mind that we play out the day like any other, we make reads and collect data. TOGETHER we shall bring peace to this mafia ridden town and recover from the travesty of Cell 1.0. This is a democracy. I am just a pretty face for the people. obviously he wants the position, but the underlying mindset is that he wants it without giving the town anything in return. he eventually gave up running for mayor when ritoky started rolling around the thread and tryharding, and trying to solve the game on day 1 is generally a town trait. eventually, holyflare gives us something: Show nested quote +I see that you will be a thorn in my election. That being said, I do not mind your aprehension, it is justified! However, I stake my reputation on this game, I will not make this another loss like last time! I will divulge to you the secrets of this game.
There are several approaches you can take:
A) The first lynches will be the ones you think are fairly obvious and will net town a few points.
B) The first 1 or 2 lynches will be coinflippy as you get rid of useless points of contention.
I suggest going with A) with the caveat that you let the talkers stay in the game to figure it out and not leave the weakest people till last. nothing useful here. just a bunch of useless, generic advice that makes people think youre interested in the town agenda. its really easy to speculate on setup while looking town because it makes people think youre doing stuff. cell is still new so people dont know what to do, so its really easy to throw out cell layout advice and look like youre contributing. later on he wound up dropping his candidacy because he wasnt "really" running for mayor. Show nested quote +Because i "ran" for mayor lol?
Have you even read the people in my group? :pppp what? what does that even mean? how does that even coincide with his earlier post, where he posted his own artwork and went and bbcoded everything? the reality of it is that he realized someone was running for office based on content and he couldnt keep up with that so he dropped out of the running. Show nested quote +bunnies, the mayor is useless tbh, if a towny gets it that's cool and he follows the consensus and makes a good order! if a scum gets it we get a lot of information based on the new order they proposed and what they were saying before they get mayor! obviously it was important enough for you to want to make a giant, well-written albeit empty post about it. then theres the fact that hes trying to push an agenda of buddying throughout his game, as evidenced here: Show nested quote +Dick move analysis suggests everyone that was around at the start of the game is very likely town. GG scum! Show nested quote +This is not true. It's a conspiracy to subdue the women, we put genders on our voting forms for "statistical benefit" but the real secret is that we just throw the womens votes in the bin. True freedom. http://imgur.com/kdgDGNRget added to my list, stop being poopy people! (bonus points here because hes running his platformless mayoral campaign as well) Show nested quote +Simply because I do not care to mess with such trivialities as lynch orders when I could be discovering who is mafia! I will listen to what everyone else thinks and we'll make an informed decision based on what everyone has posted.
I am always at maximum hardness which is why I always win. after rereading a bunch of holyflare's games, the common theme between his scum games is that he pushes an agenda of buddying people and winning votes rather than trying to solve the game. the brevity of his filter looks good from a town point of view, but the reality of it is that hes pushing his agenda under the veneer of being the "big brother" of the thread. then there are his interactions with cell D: Show nested quote +Cell d is literally the shittest group ever in the history of shit cell groups and i said it would be that way and ritoky still ignored it to put an easy free point group at the end. tbh, i can see where he is coming from here, because none of us have done anything and we sho- ...wait: Show nested quote +Yay sloosh stepped up! Now we can actually kill smurf or tambo (smurf smurf smurf, probs tambo) wat. how is this consistent with his views of a shitty cell D? sloosh does a thing and its fine, but apparently cell d is still a shit group because he doesnt like it apparently. i dont draw conclusions between unflipped players, but that doesnt really erase the fact that something happened here in terms of how holyflare's demeanor towards cell d, especially when he reacts to my initial (content-loaded) posts earlier in the thread: Show nested quote +Well you're not much better. The only contribution after saying you're going to look much more towny is pointing out things that have already been said about your group which contains 2 lurkers. Nothing about the 3 lynches ahead of it and especially nothing about the lynch that is going on today. OWS posted a case so that means that he doesnt look good. sloosh posts a (shit)case and he "steps up?" wut? this doesnt really make sense when he wants people to do things in their cells only to try to discredit them and the lack of interest in gathering more information in the thread doesnt make sense from a town point of view. instead, he attempts to throw doubt on someone in a mostly inactive cell before someone else "steps up" with information that doesn't really make sense and then townreads them for it. the townread itself was horrifically inaccurate because misinformation (despite the fact that mz is actually probably mafia) isnt good for the thread because people will just poke holes in terrible cases, or end up following said terrible cases to mislynches. then there's his reaction to said townread: this statement does not indicate trying to explain a poor read. its a justification of a rather poor read by trying to play it off as a joke. HF actually has no idea how to react to this accusation but tries to play it off anyway. its an indication that he knows more than he actually should. and then theres the entire thirteenth page of his filter which is basically just a load of active lurking to boost his postcount. not good. not necessary. not town. lynch holyflare when his cell rolls around. kthx.
For someone who seems very set on HF being scum, you don't seem interested in his lynch at all.
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Wait why are people voting holyflare? Why would scum get pissed off at inactivity?
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On June 02 2014 06:23 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2014 06:19 slOosh wrote:
Wait why are people voting holyflare? Why would scum get pissed off at inactivity? What the fuck kind of logic is this. Holyflare was raging at inactivity as scum in that game where he did this shit before. Lynch him
Lynch him off meta, sample size 1?
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##Unvote: IAmRobik
##Vote: batsnacks
This is a crap last minute wagon. HolyFlare is town.
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On June 02 2014 06:38 Palmar wrote:
batsnacks who's mafia in your cell and who's mafia in future cells.
BTW batsnacks is 100% not mafia. If it's not HF it's robik. batsnacks realized I'm town and it makes no sense to do that if he's mafia.
Trust me, lynch HF, if it's not him, it's Robik.
Please explain.
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Palmar, at it's peak, on a scale of 1 to 10, how much did you want to lynch HolyFlare for being scum vs lynch HolyFlare regardless of what he is?
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On June 02 2014 15:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2014 15:19 slOosh wrote:
Palmar, at it's peak, on a scale of 1 to 10, how much did you want to lynch HolyFlare for being scum vs lynch HolyFlare regardless of what he is? why did you post this?
It affects my read.
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On June 02 2014 15:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2014 15:24 slOosh wrote:On June 02 2014 15:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On June 02 2014 15:19 slOosh wrote:
Palmar, at it's peak, on a scale of 1 to 10, how much did you want to lynch HolyFlare for being scum vs lynch HolyFlare regardless of what he is? why did you post this? It affects my read. how?
I'll answer that after Palmar answers.
Who's scum in cell B?
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Yea Palmar is most likely town. VE, thoughts on Cell D / E?
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And eff I've being playing dota until 5am ... probably gonna wake up super late
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Replaces in but doesn't do anything.
##Vote: VisceraEyes
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On June 03 2014 17:27 Palmar wrote:
##Vote tehpoofter
For now, his reasoning for doing shit around the lynch was atrocious.
I'm going to read them both in detail later.
I want to note right now that I'm notoriously bad at reading replacement players so I'll mostly be focusing on WoS and I'd like VE to focus on contributing for days to come.
Also Sloosh's reason for voting VE is awful.
How? He replaces in and immediately becomes inactive? What's town motivation for doing that?
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On June 04 2014 02:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
Then again it might be Palmar for the whole "VE might be scum for not thinking I'm suspicious. Not paranoid enough." That reasoning is god-awful and not reasoning I expect from a town-aligned Palmar. Then again, it's not reasoning he's actually like RUNNING with either, so meeehhh. I think it's poof.
This seems extremely forced.
Why do you feel the need to share this?
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On June 04 2014 03:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Sooooo. I wanted to be more active today,
Buuutttt. I fractured my foot in 3 places. So hospital, xrays, etc. updatin from my phone
Go me! Sooo
##vote: VE
Why not Palmar?
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VE replaced into a game where he would be alive for 1 cycle max and hasn't done anything.
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Thanks for hosting the game.
I think it is a very interesting setup, but I guess it had the side effect of being unable to punish inactives / lurkers, leading to the game grinding to a halt past the first two cycles.
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On June 04 2014 07:05 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2014 07:05 slOosh wrote:
Thanks for hosting the game.
I think it is a very interesting setup, but I guess it had the side effect of being unable to punish inactives / lurkers, leading to the game grinding to a halt past the first two cycles. Last game had the same problem. Something is wrong with this setup.
Maybe if you could vote for which cell goes up next every day, mayor picks first cell?
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Yea, I think being unlynchable is the cause for lots of inactivity problems, for either scum or town. Adjusting it so that you could get lynched / killed somehow I think is important. Either by varying cell order during the game or some other means.
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