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I'm town, right now and other than the fact that neither one of Rit or MZ seem to be honestly trying to deduce my alignment I think Rit is the townier of the group for at least taking stabs at trying for the rest of the game.
I just skimmed the thread real fast though but iirc he says something like "MZ my freedombuddy obv just based on that alone still think Odin is the scum. Freedom never lies!" or at least along those lines.
His town read on MZ is based on terrible logic.
And his scum read on me is worse.
But only one of them can be scum.
And since MZ's soles contribution to this game is hard buddying 1 hr into it.
Following up with trying to get me lycnhed is just so bad.
Like he's pretty much saying he knows, as a fact, that Rit is town, and I am scum.
He never tries to figure it out. He just knows.
There is only 1 faction that knows alignments of every player. It's the opposite of mine.
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On May 30 2014 15:06 WaveofShadow wrote:
Too mafia.
You're going to have to explain this one to me Wave
Tomorrow is HF's cell day on the block. am I missing something??
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Also, unless something drastically changes I don't think I'm going to change my mind on this.
##vote:Meapak_Ziphh
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I thought my reply against MZ was pretty strait foward?
The main brunt of it is that he's scum reading me for not having 100% "conclusions"
Which is a blatant lie. My post imply where my suspicion was at during that time.
Saying I don't have any reads is stupid. Saying that I didn't think Rit was odd was just out-right wrong when in my discussion with Mderg it should of been pretty obvious I was skeptical on Rit.
So saying that I wasn't trying to come to conclusions is just a misrepresentation. And then scum reading me for not knowing for certain if I am right yet, on day1 no less, is just outrageous. Like, I replaced in late, had to skim the entire thread, gave my opinions about where we were at, and stayed around as long as I could to talk about them. Sorry if you didn't think they were well enough "developed" by that point in time. But it's not like I had a chance to talk about them with others or anything.
I had my own thoughts about the game, shared them, and MZ is convinced it makes me scum for doing it.
Thus, MZ calls me scum for not knowing for sure.
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Also for your cell it's really simple.
I don't care if you've played anti town for 60 games in a row. I've said this a few times now in several different games.
If you play anti town, I'll think you're anti town.
Both you and Poofter are around, posting thoughts, and discussing topics with people. I don't like everything you have to say, but at this point it is better than anything I've seen from Palmar. So my simple train of thought leads me to believe that Palmar is the scum in your cell.
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Also, Wave I'm still around. I'll be checking in the this game every 20 or mins or so for the next few hours~
And you seem to have questions about/for me. The fact you're sitting on them now while I am around is kind of bugging me.
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How have I 180 my read exactly? Did you even read my post? What do you think I currently think about Rit? And why do you think a am running with that assumption? What do you feel about my thoughts on the Laya/mderg? Where do you stand on my thoughts of WoS/Poof/Palmar? What about my reads on HF/Shia(Robik)/bats? What about ANYTHING I've said?
You are so certain in your read on Rit/ me but you've never actually done a damn thing to develop that read.
So how do you have it?
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Like yes, I don't post 65536 freaking post a cycle. It will never happen. But you are saying I have produced nothing this game.
And you are out-right lying about it because in my limited number of post this game I have produced more content than like 80% of the players here.
And you want to lynch me for it.
Why?
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Like what is your opinion about the last 20 pages? Actually how do you feel about the whole game?
What about all the points previously made? You think Shia/Robik is prob scum? Explain. You think Bunnies cell is difficult? Explain. You think HF is scum/WoS is trying to frame him subtly/ they are both scum together? Explain.
You think that Palmar is town? Explain. You think Bat's approach to mayor was in any way different than HF/Rit's? Explain.
Like I've posted my thoughts on everything I just mentioned.
And you've done none of it.
But I'm the scum read you come to for it. What?
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Actually to add, what does everyone think of Obi? I asked before and got no responses.
Which is fine because ppl had a hard time reading what I was saying then (understandable).
But I am actually curious behind what his recent stuff is implying. If you note, he's only discrediting stuff and adding some filler.
He brings nothing to convo and then just peaces out.
What are people opinions about this?
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What push on Rit did I do exactly? Quote it. Because I'm pretty sure I never pushed Rit.
I had him as a scum read for a time, yes. I didn't (and still don't) understand a lot of his positions. So that obviously made me curious and want to dig into WHY he has those. So I posted an opinion about it. Where did I ever even remotely try to push a lynch on Rit?
The MOST I've done vs him is try to stop him as mayor because;
-I lack a ton of time. I don't want to be the ez mislynch D1 simply because I cannot post to ppls "satisfaction"
-I felt he was trying to push from a obscure point of thought.
-I cast doubt on his hard buddying of ppl.
So again, how is anything in your last post relevant? I've done none of it.
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Ok actually, I've been trying to wrap my head around your meaning in this post for a while now.
And I just can't do it. SO here, these are my thoughts about it and hopefully people can elaborate.
And yes, just to bring up hairs, I'm going to use red font! HA! (Really it was because tl doesn't have yellow t.t)
On May 30 2014 17:00 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2014 16:51 OdinOfPergo wrote:
Like yes, I don't post 65536 freaking post a cycle. It will never happen. But you are saying I have produced nothing this game.
And you are out-right lying about it because in my limited number of post this game I have produced more content than like 80% of the players here.
And you want to lynch me for it.
Why? I want to lynch you because you're scum and you've been waffling between me and rit, How exactly? Just because I was unsure of who was scum makes me "waffling"?" My second question is how the hell did you come to the conclusion 100% Odin is scum before I ever even replaced in? Like you already know my alignment. You don't do analyses on me for it. You're post imply you know it. And have known it since the start of the game. you thought it was gonna be rit for a long time but never committed so now that I'm under the gun you can switch to me. I didn't "think for a long time" I thought for the two hours I played catch up, 20 minutes in the shower, and then POSTED I THOUGHT MABY Rit's motivations should be questioned. Was I wrong for doing that? No, I still think Rit's motivations seem weird. Maby less scummy because of my progressing read on you. But still odd none-the-less. I really don't care about what else you've done, I'm looking at how you've played your cell and all you've done is angle yourself to stay alive by making sure you'll be on the right side of the lynch. Oh of course!, I mean why should you care about what I've done?!~ You obviously already know my alignment so why try to even BOTHER FIGURING IT OUT? FUCK.. Your first 5 or 6 posts are all about the bad things that ritoky did but as I pointed out, you never called him scum. My first few post were me bringing what I thought, how I came to those conclusions, and trying to elaborate on said CONCLUSIONS, with people! Like I don't even understand you here. Of course I'm going to try to stay alive. When I replaced into this game and caught up, many ppl were posting suspicions of me. As town it would be against my wincon to NOT TRY TO SURVIVE. Aside from Palmar I'm the only person you've actually called scum and aggressively gone after, you did this after it became apparent that ritoky was not catching on as a lynch. [red.. you know what? I'm not even mad. My reads develop. You know that's how it works. I read stuff, make decisions, and then repeat. That's textbook opportunistic scum play in an attempt to stay alive. You kept your options open until you saw which way the thread was going. Don't give me BS about the other reads you've given, I don't care because those don't matter right now. All that matters is you, me, and ritoky, and it's clear your focus isn't finding scum but instead staying alive, and that's a scum play right there.[red] Repeat statement. Of course you don't give a damn about what I've posted. Why try to figure out if I'm actually scum? You don't need a reason to call me scum or anything. No never. You don't even have to read my post! It's not like you didn't receive a msg from the fucking host telling you my alignment or anything. GOD WHY WOULD ANYONE EVER TRY TO FIGURE OUT SOMEONE ELSES ALIGNMENT?! [/red]
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oh,.. I'm bad at forums. I'm not going to fix it this time. I expect people can understand my points regardless...
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and nothing? For real? You guys had 0 problem with attacking an afk thrawn. Or with trying to push me while I was asleep.
I've openly said I'd be here for a few hours and now you can't be asked to freaking post?
Oh ye, I'm less than convinced by your argument.
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~sigh~ I can tell I'm getting annoyed again. So I'm taking a voluntary break. I'll be back in hour or two.
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On May 30 2014 18:25 Palmar wrote:
Odin I'm not mafia. If you dn't agree that I'm not mafia I'm going to keep voting you because you're being intentionally and willingly thick. You know I do whatever I want to do as any alignment, so me playing anti-town should be a null-tell to you.
I don't even care if you believe it. Just admit that your scumread on me is dumb, even if you're lying.
No, I know you've done this exact sort of thing a few times as town now.
But I am also willing to admit I'm bad at this game! So the only way I can read people (Like you, HF, Marv, Rayn, etc etc, Vets) is to judge based on what you have. Regardless of how little or ton there is..
What you've posted so far makes me want to hurl.
So I'm rolling with it since WoS/Poof make more sense to me as town.
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@ Poof
Why does that post give you shivers?
Like literally neither me nor Palmar mentions MZ in that exchange
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On May 30 2014 20:34 Palmar wrote:
@Odin your filter is incredibly hard to read because you don't break down quotes and respond.
what do you mean?
Palmar, I've tried to break down post and explain why what people bring against me is wrong this entire game.
I dun understand what you are trying to get at with this.
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On May 30 2014 21:27 mtamburini wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2014 04:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:##Vote: RitokyI will be out for most of the day (PST) but I implore those who are on the fence about voting to at least elect someone who will put either cell A or cell B first. That said you should obviously vote for freedom ![[image loading]](https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1395/63/1395631002292.gif) For someone to have that strong a read in their cell to elect someone as mayor because you think the other person is scum sounds like a lot of information to me. If I didnt RNG ritoky as scum Id be suspect of you.Will keep digging in your filter maybe RNG was wrong this time.
Wowow, couldn't sleep well.
But this post. People should see it. Think about what he is saying.
Just throwing it out there.
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No tambo.
Let me explain this..
1) You follow thread sentiment that says MZ's read of Rit is odd.
2) YOu justify... something??? Because you found Rit (per random integer) to be the scum in cell a?
Like that post us bad on so many levels. The main one is MZ/Rit/ myself have all diffidently posted enough for you to come to a better read than a rng.
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