Glory Seeker Mini Mafia

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I like how Cava handeled my trolly questions about lynching him on D1. I read him town for that when it happened and I still like that read.

page 4

so people are still being really trolly, and I don't think anything that happened in pages 2-4 are alignment indicative except for the stuff I mentioned about Cava.

page 5-6

more useless stuff, and then comes HF's super fake case. both HF and myself vote for vivax

page 7

tehpoofter joke vote on steveling is a bit weird. if he was going along with the joke then why not vote vivax? it's not super alignment indicative but I did think it was a bit weird at the time. cav does the same thing, and i don't know why, but it seems less weird for him not to vote vivax than it did for tehpoofter not to vote vivax. maybe it's because i read cav's stuff as obvious jokes and tehpoofter's looks a bit more forced? idk. i really doubt there's anything to this though.

page 8

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/449650-glory-seeker-mini-mafia?page=8#143

now this is a pretty shitty post. it's so bad that I'm kinda wondering if steveling isn't trolling here. if he sticks to thsi line of reasoning seriously it'lll be something to pay attention to. Cav's posts about lurking were obviously jokes.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/449650-glory-seeker-mini-mafia?page=8#146

Ok, so he's serious. This post is about as bad as teh previous one I mentioned. i did NOT get the impression that cav was at all worried or "sweating" or whatever. Steveling is making a lot out of nothing.

And here comes Oats: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/449650-glory-seeker-mini-mafia?page=8#152

I have skimmed the thread so I do know that oats and hf go at it for awhile. My current impression of Oats just having skimmed the rest of the thread is that I think he's probably town but I'm not very confident about that. But that vote is so much worse than I remembered it being. Was he calling HF scum? No. In fact the line "why even sign up if you arent going to bother" kinda implies that HF is town, albeit shitty town or whatever Oats was going for. That post looks sorta like a policy vote and a shitty one at that. So just off of that one vote I'm gonna have to reset my Oats read to null, maybe slightly scummy actually.

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Ok koshi is noticing the exact same stuff about steveling that I did. Namely that steveling has a really really shit read and he is failing to understand that people are just joking around. Maybe a few town points go to koshi and maybe a few scum points to steve based on their interactions on page 9.

page 10

lmao oats is so crazy. i really don't knwo how to read him and will probably have to talk with him 1v1 to make a confident decision.

page 11

ok, I haven't commented on anything vivax has done yet because I think I need to see the end results of his efforts before judging him. I will say that so far i don't think he's really doing anything super useful with all the cav stuff he's talking about.

mderg comes in and says "After reading through this I don´t have a single read on anyone." idk, that seems like a likely read for someone to have I guess? the game was pretty trolly so far and mderg isn't super experienced so I can see it not being able to make anything of what's happened so far.

page 12

OK here is where the oats/hf stuff gets crazy. tbh this reminds me stuff that often happens to town oats. anyone remember this? "if rayn just only attacks town then it looks really bad so he wouldnt only attack town as scum, sooo he is scum for attacking town." i don't think the hiccup oats had in regards to HF's meta is outside the realm of his possible town play. and I remember from what I've skimmed that there are a few times where oats does sudden 180s on his reads and that's also something town oats does a lot. so right now i'm tentitively town reading oats.

and the rest of pg 12 is pretty boring

page 13

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/449650-glory-seeker-mini-mafia?page=13#256

more "meh" from vivax. i don't really know where he's going with this.

Oh btw. I haven't mentioned it yet but hf looks pretty town.

page 15

vivax - "Regarding HF a lot is cause of the reasons he's pushing Oats with. Oats sometimes gets misunderstood or misreads or doesn't make something incredibly clear, so pointing out inconsistencies and calling his mistakes or wrong representations lies, as in scummy lies shouldn't be applied while it could be applied to a player who doesn't make such mistakes as town often."

So holyflare is scummy because he's not taking oat's meta into account. that's really stupid. yeah the stuff vivax is saying about oats is mostly right but that is no reason to scumread holyflare for not considering oat's dumb meta. holyflare was the townie person in the thread at this point and vivax scumreading him for something this dumb seems beneath vivax. big scum points to vivax

later down the page cav says this to vivax "I still don't understand why you would expect me to give a read of you based off of nothing"

I agree with that. seems like vivax is really forcing this cava scum read.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/449650-glory-seeker-mini-mafia?page=16#314

i see steveling is continuing his streak of shitty posts. this line si the worst "On the other hand HF jumping on him for that reminds me of myself-gumshoe, so I get scum vibes from HF." same as with vivax. i think that hf up to this point has looked very very town so in order to scum read him you bette have some good justifications for it. this is not a good justification.

mdergs posts.... eh. i remember him being hard to read last game. idk if that's what's happening here but the posts he made on 16 seem a bit like he's trying to give reads and participate without really drawing attention to himself. but he was also that way his last town game. so i give mderg a giant "MEH" read.

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stvelng - "You know guys, there's a chance both of you are town and scum is laughing in their qt atm."

he was scumreading hf earlier over the hf/oats situation so idk where this sentiment comes from.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/449650-glory-seeker-mini-mafia?page=17#330

and in that post with his "LOLOLOLOL's" it seems liek he's gone back to scumreading hf?

Then oats asks steve " who is scum" and steve responds with some theory about majority vote setups and throws out the names 'mderg koshi.' Sooo.... he's not scumreading HF? And the list of names doesn't match up wioth the scum tells he describes. There probably should be a lot mroe people in that list. What a weird post.

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more weird shit from steveling

"Damn it oats, stop playing like this, I'd hate to lynch you and then you flipping green."

why would he lynch someone that he thinks is town lol. everything about that post implies that oats is town so why is steveling even thinking about lynchying him?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/449650-glory-seeker-mini-mafia?page=18#356

and that post is such a dumb thing to bring up. i'm not completely sold on steveling being scum yet but i'm starting to wonder if the shit-logic scum tells might apply here

page 19

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/449650-glory-seeker-mini-mafia?page=19#364

OMG more shitposts. what a terrible representation of koshi's filter. steveling doesn't even seem to remember that koshi was on his ass during the early game? It's sorta right. Koshi hasn't done much. but he has done a lot more than what steveling gave him credit for.

Ok i think the stuff mderg posts on page 19 is townie but i don't really knwo why. gut read i guess.

page 20

nothing worth commenting on imo

page 21

i dont think anything vivax posted on page 21 was helpful. right now he doesnt seem to have any kind of scumhunting agenda

page 22

omg pg 22 was so boring.

page 23

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/449650-glory-seeker-mini-mafia?page=23#449

+1 on that post. i'm going to have to read mderg's stuff seperately after I finish reading the thread becuase his posts really aren't doing much for me. i guess his posts about oats will be the ones to evaluate.

page 24

more dumb from steveling on pg 24. i feel like he doesn't really have any reasons for his reads and he just likes to fall back on the line "we should wait for inactives" whenever things start getting tricky.

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