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On December 02 2011 10:47 Erandorr wrote:
Well what I was getting at, if Soap were scum, why the fuck would he write that? He wrote if after the lynch, correct? What does any Scum player have to gain writing that after the lynch. A free "HEY IM SCUM" post? He probably should answer that himself, but that would be retarded beyond belief. that was what I was getting at.
what does a townie get besides getting suspected? Neither side benefits from the statement. My issue with it is more the "i was planning on jumping in on the rape palmar bc train in the last second too" which is inherently mafia when it would have saved zeks.
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also in a game of this size people get away with saying stuff like that allll the fucking time.
Look at PYP:I, that game was scumslip galore because there were so many of them. When there are large numbers of scum they tend to get complacent and fuck up over and over.
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I mean really, look at this guy, his last post in the vote thread:
On December 02 2011 10:30 Soap wrote:
##Vote: wherebugsgo
##Vote: BloodyC0bbler
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Gonna go grab some food then play some sc2 but let make it clear:
If I am so scummy then making a case is pie. Do so. I am not a lurker with nothing to go off of. I am an active player that made a mistake. Heavens to Betsy it is too much work (aka playing the game) to bother to help the town out by pulling together a real case that everyone can test to ensure that it would actually stand on its own two feet. The level of poor town play that this approach to the game ensures is something I have not seen in a very long time.
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On December 02 2011 10:47 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2011 10:34 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
WBG, what do you think of the post of soaps I quoted? That seem slightly suspect to you? That was actually why he was on my list to begin with. I removed him when I realized that I needed space for bum/decon. Kill These Please
Serejai
Sprungjeezy
Kenpachi
vaderseven
Ciryandor
prplhz
Coagulation (meta)
Erandorr
Mattchew
Steveling
Soap
AmericanUmlaut
Lemonwalrus (meta)
bumatlarge
So there's 14 scum and 14 names here. Either decon is scum and one of these guys isn't, sinani is scum and one of these guys isn't, etc. etc. Top 6 are 99% scum. So let's look at the rest right now:
Coagulation (meta)
Erandorr
Mattchew
Steveling
Soap
AmericanUmlaut
Lemonwalrus (meta)
bumatlarge
Of these, bum is my best guess at scum. Then Mattchew, AmericanUmlaut, Coag, Lemon. So we're left with these guys:
Erandorr
Steveling
Soap
These are the only 3 I give any reasonable chance at flipping town. And tbh, none of them look good. If any of these 3 is town then decon is almost certainly scum.
I was 100% scum earlier. Why did I drop to 99%? Please explain yourself. What, exactly, have I done recently to lower the chances of me being scum? Are you trying to save face for when I flip town so you can go "OH, ITS OK I GAVE HIM A 1% CHANCE" in the hopes people won't find out you're scum and lynch you?
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this is getting really stupid. Yeah wbg is afraid that people might find out he's scum, that got to be it.
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On December 02 2011 10:53 vaderseven wrote:
Gonna go grab some food then play some sc2 but let make it clear:
If I am so scummy then making a case is pie. Do so. I am not a lurker with nothing to go off of. I am an active player that made a mistake. Heavens to Betsy it is too much work (aka playing the game) to bother to help the town out by pulling together a real case that everyone can test to ensure that it would actually stand on its own two feet. The level of poor town play that this approach to the game ensures is something I have not seen in a very long time.
Guys dont even bother responding to him scum is scum gotta give him credit for trying tho but in the end everyone knows why you are scum
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On December 02 2011 11:01 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2011 10:53 vaderseven wrote:
Gonna go grab some food then play some sc2 but let make it clear:
If I am so scummy then making a case is pie. Do so. I am not a lurker with nothing to go off of. I am an active player that made a mistake. Heavens to Betsy it is too much work (aka playing the game) to bother to help the town out by pulling together a real case that everyone can test to ensure that it would actually stand on its own two feet. The level of poor town play that this approach to the game ensures is something I have not seen in a very long time. Guys dont even bother responding to him scum is scum gotta give him credit for trying tho but in the end everyone knows why you are scum
Oh good then it should be easy for you to pop into this thread after lurking most of the game and put that case out. No? This is just a check in post to parrot a non-case? Ok thanks. This is probably to be expected with the smoke screen style attack that WBG is doing on me right now. It is the perfect cover for players that are afraid to put any really thought into their posts for fear of being found as scum.
And that, wbg / bc, is why its STUPID to advocate a lynch while simultaneously instructing everyone (and you guys drop the I am a vet and noobs should listen line enough that some noobs will in fact do so) to not make a case on a player you desire to see lynched or to even talk to him. You are setting the town up right now to lynch a town player without talking to him or about him.
On December 01 2011 13:39 wherebugsgo wrote:WELL, that's surprising... ##vote vaderseven
##vote Kenpachi
I didnt realize you are one of the ones voting for me over one of the two that scum claimed. You really need to make a case on me. This is getting ridiculous begging for a case on myself. You find me scummy enough to vote over a person who did a similar action to what you call me scummy for as well as claiming scum in the thread?
mind = blown
You know if your non-case on me is wrong and you convince people that voting for me over Mr FU TOWN you will have in fact have caused alot of hurt to the entire team?
WBG you are so scummy. I had no idea until this exchange but the anger you got going in me motivated me to read your post history while eating pizza.
You are voting for me over someone who scum claimed.
You dont want anyone to talk to me or about me.
You dont want to make a case on a player that you have voted even when requested too (too much work WTF your post history has over 520 posts in it don't get me started on what you are willing to do in a mafia game)
You have stated that you 'should' die tonight but if you dont you will live through the next night.
Your play today has been one of setting things up for tomorrow. You want me to be lynched and you are voting me now because a few sheep will follow that today and I will end in 3rd (if the day ended now 1st would have like 24 votes, 2nd 22 votes, and then I would have 6 votes) place vote wise so that I am the 'obv' agreement choice for the next day. You do NOT want me to live past my flawed play of voting for whom I saw as scummy at a time when the vote count was shifting rapidly and you do not want anyone to think about the issue at all.
You are probably pretty smug thinking how awesome it is that you can spam the thread as scum like you have and still get away with telling people to not even think or discuss the next town action and instead just blindly follow list after list and instruction after instruction.
If you MIRACULOUSLY live through the night you can wake up to my vote tomorrow. You are the only player that stands out to me as extremely scummy beyond the players that have scum claimed.
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On December 01 2011 14:25 jaybrundage wrote:
#Vote Vaderseven
#Vote Kenpachi
Vote vaderseven imo so he cant argue his way out of it
You are a lurker and the same logical principals that apply to why WCG's DONT TALK TO OR ABOUT THAT GUY BUT LYNCH HIM apply to you.
You are also not voting someone that scum claimed.
Why don't you double your post count by talking for the rest of the day about why you aren't being incredibly scummy.
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I just wanna say I agree with this list except for me being on it of course.
Kill These Please
Serejai
Sprungjeezy
Kenpachi
vaderseven
Ciryandor
prplhz
Coagulation (meta)
Erandorr
Mattchew
Steveling
Soap
AmericanUmlaut
Lemonwalrus (meta)
bumatlarge
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People voting for me:
Vaderseven: 7
intrigue
tube
Cyber_Cheese
jaybrundage
Serejai
wherebugsgo
Kenpachi
So one player that scum claimed and 6 others.
Serejai posts are more to entertain and appear cool (check his filter, I decided he doesn't play to win and is just along for the ride, no idea if scum or not).
WBG doesnt want to talk about it, too much work.
intrigue This guy...
On November 26 2011 18:38 intrigue wrote:
hiiii guys i subbed in for someone. so, i don't know anybody, but palmar seems pretty popular. should i just jump on the bandwagon and vote for him too?
Thats his first post. Hi guys can I bandwagon? Really?
On December 01 2011 08:11 intrigue wrote:
kenpachi and ciryandor both left "fuck you town" posts btw. ezest kills ever?
He then spends a few one liner posts comparing his lists to other peoples and buddying up by adding and taking away players from the lists to match other players.
On December 01 2011 10:03 intrigue wrote:
everyone thinks i'm town is that correct? am i the only person in this circle of trust along with bugs and the guy with the s name sandroba and annul?
Uh, you have posted ~20 1 liner posts leading to this. Buddying up via lists doesnt do anything for me concerning your alignment.
Pls read his filter it is not long, usually 1 sentance posts and there is less than 30 of them I think.
tube this guy is lurking and hasnt posted in the thread for about 7 days. I hope that he gets mod killed. He is obv here enough to go post a vote but ya its too much work to come in and post anything at all.
Cyber_Cheese is a lurker that is skating by with the min amount of posting. He hasn't said a thing about me besides put me on some lists and then vote me.
I was being way to hard on myself for thinking palmer and BC were scum. I know I did make that mistake and I have posted about it. None of you have. Not a single one. Not once. Not even slightly.
I think WBC is scum and some of these lurkers are lurker scum hiding behind the smokescreen of active players mixed with a possible sprinkle of sheep town.
And all of them are voting me over someone that claimed scum in the thread.
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As someone who did not read a good chunk of the thread, I too am wondering what the case against vadersteven is.
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Good GOD this is the post history of a player that has been in since the game started?
+ Show Spoiler +On November 17 2011 19:29 Coagulation wrote:
/in On November 19 2011 13:35 Coagulation wrote:
This game is gonna be noobie as fuck. On November 20 2011 11:52 Coagulation wrote:
Yeah.. sure.. thats it. Righto. On November 26 2011 10:47 Coagulation wrote:
hi guys On November 27 2011 12:34 Coagulation wrote:
If I die tonight xsksc is mafia.
just sayin.. On November 30 2011 04:02 Coagulation wrote:
man there are too many players in this game. It takes forever to catch up. On November 30 2011 04:03 Coagulation wrote:
could someone sum up the key events of the last 48 hours? On November 30 2011 04:50 Coagulation wrote:
wherebugsgo you sure post alot. On December 01 2011 08:51 Coagulation wrote:
guys Im not mafia. Just saying. On December 01 2011 08:52 Coagulation wrote:If I was mafia would I post this??? + Show Spoiler + On December 01 2011 08:52 Coagulation wrote:
I rest my case
* goes back to lurking * On December 02 2011 11:31 Coagulation wrote:
I just wanna say I agree with this list except for me being on it of course.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285690&user=22673
The fuck?
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On December 02 2011 10:52 wherebugsgo wrote:I mean really, look at this guy, his last post in the vote thread: Show nested quote +On December 02 2011 10:30 Soap wrote:
##Vote: wherebugsgo
##Vote: BloodyC0bbler
Never underestimate the stupidity of newbies... Again, how many newbies have you seen who, in their first game, roll scum and don't just sheep along? I just find it really hard to believe that he would go up against people like you or BC. And that post about wanting to voteswitch? To make that post as scum, he would have to be a complete moron. Not a mafia newbie, but a complete retard. We will have to look into him when we get closer to the endgame, but now he should not be in focus.
Although your demand to give you another suspect is stupid beyond belief, I actually randomly found someone who fits that bill.
Jay.
Now before you start shouting "we made that mistake in the last game" :
1)I started to like making lists
2)He endorsed Prplhz campaign (who is scum ,pretty certainly)
3) He made 2 giant game mechanics / trying to be helpful posts, trying to show effort but not actually doing anything
4) trying to be best buddies with bugs (yeah that one is weak but whatever)
5)He is hardcore lurking and doesn't give his opinion on almost anything.
6)This shitty post caught my eye
On December 02 2011 11:01 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2011 10:53 vaderseven wrote:
Gonna go grab some food then play some sc2 but let make it clear:
If I am so scummy then making a case is pie. Do so. I am not a lurker with nothing to go off of. I am an active player that made a mistake. Heavens to Betsy it is too much work (aka playing the game) to bother to help the town out by pulling together a real case that everyone can test to ensure that it would actually stand on its own two feet. The level of poor town play that this approach to the game ensures is something I have not seen in a very long time. Guys dont even bother responding to him scum is scum gotta give him credit for trying tho but in the end everyone knows why you are scum
Why would he give his opinion on this after having done nothing at all for 4 fucking days? Can anyone give me an explanation other than he is scum and trying to distance himself / gaining a bit of quick towncred?
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he killed our town mayor together with something like 5 other people with a ninja vote switch a couple secs before the lynch happened.
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Opps.
Sorry.
Please dont mod kill me for trolling the thread by asking for people to post cases and posting thoughts I have on other players.
*motherfucking eye roll*
Your move wbg, whats it gonna be? You gonna live through the night by some miracle and then come in and tell everyone not to talk and vote your magic list or are you going to post something of merit today?
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On December 02 2011 11:39 Erandorr wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2011 10:52 wherebugsgo wrote:I mean really, look at this guy, his last post in the vote thread: On December 02 2011 10:30 Soap wrote:
##Vote: wherebugsgo
##Vote: BloodyC0bbler Never underestimate the stupidity of newbies... Again, how many newbies have you seen who, in their first game, roll scum and don't just sheep along? I just find it really hard to believe that he would go up against people like you or BC. And that post about wanting to voteswitch? To make that post as scum, he would have to be a complete moron. Not a mafia newbie, but a complete retard. We will have to look into him when we get closer to the endgame, but now he should not be in focus. Although your demand to give you another suspect is stupid beyond belief, I actually randomly found someone who fits that bill. Jay. Now before you start shouting "we made that mistake in the last game" : 1)I started to like making lists 2)He endorsed Prplhz campaign (who is scum ,pretty certainly) 3) He made 2 giant game mechanics / trying to be helpful posts, trying to show effort but not actually doing anything 4) trying to be best buddies with bugs (yeah that one is weak but whatever) 5)He is hardcore lurking and doesn't give his opinion on almost anything. 6)This shitty post caught my eye Show nested quote +On December 02 2011 11:01 jaybrundage wrote:On December 02 2011 10:53 vaderseven wrote:
Gonna go grab some food then play some sc2 but let make it clear:
If I am so scummy then making a case is pie. Do so. I am not a lurker with nothing to go off of. I am an active player that made a mistake. Heavens to Betsy it is too much work (aka playing the game) to bother to help the town out by pulling together a real case that everyone can test to ensure that it would actually stand on its own two feet. The level of poor town play that this approach to the game ensures is something I have not seen in a very long time. Guys dont even bother responding to him scum is scum gotta give him credit for trying tho but in the end everyone knows why you are scum Why would he give his opinion on this after having done nothing at all for 4 fucking days? Can anyone give me an explanation other than he is scum and trying to distance himself / gaining a bit of quick towncred?
you're a moron.
"don't underestimate the newbiness of newbies"
goes and POINTS OUT A NEWBIE
jesus wtf
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On December 02 2011 11:42 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:mcht has been replaced by MarserBlood.
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A large explosion was spotted, dukethegold the detective, IMABUNNEH and The1stNewbie the lurker vigilantes, minus_human the veteran, Nisani201 the miller, Holyflare the bodyguard, Chanyman, unsmart, TheToast, RogerX Spartan N30, and Lemonwalrus the townies have all died in a massive thermonuclear explosion.
ROFL
Lemon you suck.
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On December 02 2011 11:40 Toadesstern wrote:
he killed our town mayor together with something like 5 other people with a ninja vote switch a couple secs before the lynch happened.
God damn.
Here.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285690¤tpage=229#4562
Read that post. Its me replying to a case Heir made on me. Its the only case that any has posted besides things like what Toadesstern just posted which lack anything close to enough evidence to justify a lynch and gag strat that is being advocated.
Its the closest thing to a real discussion on that matter that has happened.
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