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On May 01 2014 05:31 WaveofShadow wrote:
Foolishness can I ask how I fit in to all this exactly? Am I 25 or 75? And I am pretty curious as to how Bh's gumshoe lynch fits into your mason QT exactly.
Honestly it wouldn't surprise me if RoL and Oats are town in this game----for me to be as apathetic as I've been to think that people who normally lurk (like RoL) are similar isn't a stretch. Except of course that apparently this kind of game is the ideal for RoL who hates spam. And I dunno oats is just oats. I'm still pretty damn certain this game is just over, hence the apathy. So much idgaf in this game from me and mostly everyone else, it sucks for the people who are fighting against a brick wall. Like Austin.
Also cephiro only pops up with large vomit posts when people remember he's around. Curious coincidence.
I'd lynch RoL or ceph or oats today I guess considering I don't have anything useful to add. The BH-foolishness thing seems legit and kinda difficult for even someone like BH to come up with if they were both scum.
You are NOT entitled to sit back and cry like a little bitch about the state of the game. If you aren't happy with it DO SOMETHING. And how the heck is it difficult to come up with that mason thing?
On May 01 2014 06:23 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2014 06:20 Foolishness wrote:On May 01 2014 06:13 Alakaslam wrote:
K here is something.
IF foolishness is scum, so also is Koshi most likely even though that makes very little sense.
If foolishness is town Koshi could still be scum but most likely he is t. I'll reiterate that on day 1 I thought Koshi was town (just based off his posting and thread presence, I never did a hard analysis or anything). tehpoofter brings up some good points though that can't be ignored. I don't think Koshi should be lynched today (and probably not tomorrow either) because there's a handful of other people that need to be taken care of first (myself, Palmar, Oats, RoL, Caller, etc.). Foolishness is right in that there are bigger fish to fry. Look, I think we can say pretty certainly there's scum amongst the people who like never contributed, voted, and weren't on main wagons at the end of D1, right? We don't want these people alive at LYLO, and our vigis would have shot them by now if they were going to. Realistically speaking I think a guy like Gumshoe is NOT going to play well as town ANYWAYS so even if by some longshot he's town, he was a liability regardless. That being said, as always I am willing to consolidate. We have just a few hours left now so we should all say who we're willing to vote for so we can get an idea of what's possible. Remember, it's majority lynch here.
The people you are talking about are exactly 3. Ace and the 2 guys not voting (poofter + gumshoe). So what you are saying is that 2 scummers intentionally didn't vote? I don't think not voting is alignment indicative at all. So you are stuck with Ace. Grats.
Is there ANYONE who thinks Foolishness contributed something of worth today? I for sure don't and since he is lynch candidate #1 he should be working his ass off as town, right? Vote that mofo already.
Also thanks for the post donation (already forgot who that was) but I think Koshi could use those better since I got a few already.
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On May 01 2014 05:23 Foolishness wrote:
Really I'm just baffled by this all. Is the logic as follows?
"oh, 75% of the players in the game are just writing sheep posts and not posting their own thoughts. Meanwhile 25% of the players are posting reads/cases, trying to steer town in the right direction, and analyze what the mafia has been doing this whole game.
Well, I know that there are more town than mafia in the game because that's how the game of mafia is set up. That must mean all the town players are doing the same thing and are in the 75%, and it must be the mafia who are the 25%."
I'm legit trying to figure out the mindset behind this. Cause hot damn so many people are on board with this I'm questioning my own stupidity.
It is really telling how you waste all your time complaining about that without going at someone specific. If you were town you would try to convince people by contributions/insightful thought through posts like you did in the shadow game for example. None of those to be seen anywhere.
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I thing I just noticed is that Foolishness insists that his case on strongandbig was good. I think that a town Foolishness would be a lot more likely to realize that it wasn't (because it was on a townie) and just take responsibility. "Yea, I messed up but we all make mistakes" instead of "It was really good because it got someone lynched". Foolishness will agree with me that sticking with a bad case is a scummy thing to do (for various reasons).
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I still really like JAT despite him calling me a little bitch. There's been some RL contributing to the apathy this time but I won't really make excuses; I think it's been more the post restriction that severely cramps my style of being able to/wanting to post exactly what I'm thinking without having to format and organize my thoughts.
Anyway, despite RoL coming back and telling me he needed time to do stuff after I called him out early in the game as being somebody who never plays games I'm in with him (still only found The Game as an example, I could've sworn there was another though) he's done dick all.
Austin the reason I haven't voted yet is because of those I listed I want one of them out of the game and I don't know who the towniest among us wants out at this point---I fully planned on sheeping along (and still do) and it won't be like yesterday either where I sheeped onto a townread just to prevent no-lynch. Was stupid play and I really regret it. In this case if I sheep it'll obviously be onto one of the generally agreed upon useless players---the shitty part is that they could very well be town but at least I won't regret it.
I'll start us off here. Of those I mentioned, the most useless by far is RoL and I'd be happy to see him out.
##Unvote
##Vote: RebirthofLegend
Cephiro could be traitor like people said, and Oats could be scum---if people decide that they want one of those two out I'll gladly switch.
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On May 01 2014 04:43 Cephiro wrote:
Confirmed Town Club: Cephiro, geript (DEAD), strongandbig (DEAD)
Greenish Grasses (Most to least town): austinmcc, justanothertownie, Ace, yamato (DEAD), tehpoofter, WaveOfShadow
Neutral Waters (Townier to scummier): VisceraEyes, prplhz, Alakaslam, gumshoe, RebirthOfLegend, VayneOfAuthority
Fiery Furnace (Least scummy to scummiest): Caller, Foolishness, Palmar, Koshi, Oatsmaster
Joker Category: OdinOfPergo (Slight townread, but I also suspect him to be traitor), Blazinghand (Has traits that make me lean both slightly town as well as slightly scum, however I don't think both he and foolishness would be on the same scumteam)
Could you maybe explain the Ace read to me? He is pretty high on your townie list and the read I understand the least of those. Maybe it's just me but I am really struggling to form an opinion on Ace.
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I am in agreement to some degree re: Foolishness---there are some things about what he's done this game that I really don't like but again the BH mason business has me forced to believe in him for now. It is almost assured there are scum sitting back and doing dick all this game, it's just a question of whether we want to crapshoot into the lurkers right now to find them or eliminate active/semi-active posters. I for one think we crapshoot for now. JAT maybe you SHOULD take your shot.
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Seriously WaveofShadow that's nonsense.
Tell me why Blazinghand making the infinitely vague statement "I think he's town" has convinced you in any way? Because I don't see it at all.
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On May 01 2014 06:50 WaveofShadow wrote:
I am in agreement to some degree re: Foolishness---there are some things about what he's done this game that I really don't like but again the BH mason business has me forced to believe in him for now. It is almost assured there are scum sitting back and doing dick all this game, it's just a question of whether we want to crapshoot into the lurkers right now to find them or eliminate active/semi-active posters. I for one think we crapshoot for now. JAT maybe you SHOULD take your shot.
If you tell me exactly who you want shot with a short reasoning I will consider it.
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Town needs to wisen up that are among the lurkers. Me, Austin, Jat, Foolishness are trying to win this game (maybe BH too) The votes on Foolishness are silly at best. I came into the day thinking he might be scum or Koshi 1 of the two and I found the 1 its Koshi. Foolishness is proposing theories and hunting scum. The BH Foolish QT thing I'm going to buy for the time being as well because as scum that buys them a day at most and this isn't anywhere near lylo I assume.
The votes should be going to one of the 4 austin pointed out. It seems to be RoL isn't gaining traction so I'm going to consolidate further and switch to Oatsmaster.
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##Vote: Oatsmaster
Look at Austin's day one case look how scum Koshi attempts to bus him when the gun in his mind is about to go off then back off it later after I didnt shoot cause maybe he thinks I was faking or he persuaded me or something idk its a very odd thing to do and feels like scum.
GUN TIME: I am convinced Koshi is mafia his posts lately were fake AtE like no ones business. He spent 3-4 posts on yelling at me and just calling me bad or mafia. He didn't really expand on his reads or try to tell me who to shoot minus what I think is busing Oats (who according to his geript read is confirmed town) I think its interesting that he threw dirt on Oats when he thinks the deadline is up (it would have been but I fell asleep early) Smells like mafia busing mafia here. I'm shooting Koshi and killing a mafia you guys that don't want me to can say thank you later, if by some chance I'm wrong Its on me but I'm not afraid of shooting vocal scum. (I use vocal lightly because he posts a lot but doesn't honestly say much a huge scum tell)
#Shoot: Koshi
I have posts to donate I'm going to look over who needs them and give them to people I think are townie.
We absolutely need to consolidate and not vote Foolishness I'll go more into that with my next post.
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##donate 2 post to Koshi
Koshi make these worth it.. Poof did threaten to shoot you after all.
I am going to be real sad it you don't at least to push out a read with a vote soon..
+ You know less "I'm totes town post" and more "this makes me totes town because of content post"
Not convinced your scum but I'm going to be real disappointed if you don't make me feel better for thinking that eventually (sooner the better!)
Also sub note:
I went back and checked because I wasn't exactly sure
I posted before that I thought we talked about my misunderstanding with Ace.
We didn't.
On April 28 2014 12:53 OdinOfPergo wrote:
OK so Slam shot Yam..
which means ace lied about it.
We should lynch Ace then tomorrow if I understand.
Clean cut and simple.
This was my conclusion at the time.. Then I re-read the few pages of the thread..Realized you literally claimed the shot the post post before Hapa confirmed it.
Tell me in what way I even tried to hold onto that read?
No, I realized I misread, and dropped it.
What would scum me gain for any of this again..?
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On May 01 2014 06:56 Tehpoofter wrote:
Town needs to wisen up that are among the lurkers. Me, Austin, Jat, Foolishness are trying to win this game (maybe BH too) The votes on Foolishness are silly at best. I came into the day thinking he might be scum or Koshi 1 of the two and I found the 1 its Koshi. Foolishness is proposing theories and hunting scum. The BH Foolish QT thing I'm going to buy for the time being as well because as scum that buys them a day at most and this isn't anywhere near lylo I assume.
The votes should be going to one of the 4 austin pointed out. It seems to be RoL isn't gaining traction so I'm going to consolidate further and switch to Oatsmaster.
##Unvote
##Vote: Oatsmaster
Look at Austin's day one case look how scum Koshi attempts to bus him when the gun in his mind is about to go off then back off it later after I didnt shoot cause maybe he thinks I was faking or he persuaded me or something idk its a very odd thing to do and feels like scum.
GUN TIME: I am convinced Koshi is mafia his posts lately were fake AtE like no ones business. He spent 3-4 posts on yelling at me and just calling me bad or mafia. He didn't really expand on his reads or try to tell me who to shoot minus what I think is busing Oats (who according to his geript read is confirmed town) I think its interesting that he threw dirt on Oats when he thinks the deadline is up (it would have been but I fell asleep early) Smells like mafia busing mafia here. I'm shooting Koshi and killing a mafia you guys that don't want me to can say thank you later, if by some chance I'm wrong Its on me but I'm not afraid of shooting vocal scum. (I use vocal lightly because he posts a lot but doesn't honestly say much a huge scum tell)
#Shoot: Koshi
I have posts to donate I'm going to look over who needs them and give them to people I think are townie.
We absolutely need to consolidate and not vote Foolishness I'll go more into that with my next post.
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Oh god. Another scum.
There is no reason. LITERALLY NO REASON to have a townread on Foolishness right now if you had a scumread at the start of the day. What has he done since then that convinced you? I want you to show me that specific thing. You didn't even use the BH mason excuse.
You are saying I am trying to win? If so does that mean you have a townread on me? Because if that is the case why THE HELL would you shoot Koshi right now?
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One of the three I mentioned.
RoL oats or cephiro
RoL will not do dick all the entire game and is a massive question mark.
Oats is just oats---barely dodged a lynch yesterday, hasn't done a whole lot today and I can't read him---not enitrely sure he is scum here but again he's gonna be a question mark for a while
Cephiro ----traitor claim amongst other things
I don't include gumshoe in this list notably because I believe he is town despite him lurking like an asshole.
Prplhz in regards to your question---there are worse offenders that need to be gotten rid of honestly. What BH has done with the way he full on defended fool is he inextricably linked them together. foolishness has declined to comment on the matter. I believe at this point considering the way it has been handled they are either both town or both scum. Certainly the latter is possible and considering my scum read on BH, actually somewhat likely ( but then of course you get into the 'why would BH hard defend a scum buddy wifom), but if they are town we are losing a way more valuable member of town in foolishness than any of the others mentioned.
Look again if the majority is coming around to the cases on him I'll sheep along as I don't feel anywhere near as strongly about him not being scum than Snb (and I still helped lynch that guy ) but right now questions marks need to be removed if at the very least to make this game even slightly more difficult for scum.
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I AM FUCKING TOWN
LET IT BE FUCKING KNOWN
I AM FUCKING TOWN
I SWEAR ON EVERYTHING THAT IS HOLY
FUCK THEPOOFTER AND LYNCH HIS FUCKING ASS
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Poofter that was a fucking retarded shot if real.
LETS IGNORE ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARENT DOING ANYTHING WITH OUR VIGI SHOTS HERP FLERP DERP LYLO WILL BE FUN WITH A BUNCH OF PEOPLE WHO DONT EVEN TALK AMIRITE?
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Blazinghand
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On May 01 2014 07:02 WaveofShadow wrote:
One of the three I mentioned.
RoL oats or cephiro
RoL will not do dick all the entire game and is a massive question mark.
Oats is just oats---barely dodged a lynch yesterday, hasn't done a whole lot today and I can't read him---not enitrely sure he is scum here but again he's gonna be a question mark for a while
Cephiro ----traitor claim amongst other things
I don't include gumshoe in this list notably because I believe he is town despite him lurking like an asshole.
Prplhz in regards to your question---there are worse offenders that need to be gotten rid of honestly. What BH has done with the way he full on defended fool is he inextricably linked them together. foolishness has declined to comment on the matter. I believe at this point considering the way it has been handled they are either both town or both scum. Certainly the latter is possible and considering my scum read on BH, actually somewhat likely ( but then of course you get into the 'why would BH hard defend a scum buddy wifom), but if they are town we are losing a way more valuable member of town in foolishness than any of the others mentioned.
Look again if the majority is coming around to the cases on him I'll sheep along as I don't feel anywhere near as strongly about him not being scum than Snb (and I still helped lynch that guy ) but right now questions marks need to be removed if at the very least to make this game even slightly more difficult for scum.
No, no, no. We will make this game more difficult for scum by LYNCHING scum. Get on the wagon already.
@Poofter: You will have to explain your weird connection case between Koshi and Foolishness in detail very soon.
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OdinOfPergo
I am shot bro.
I traded 1 for 1. At least I did that.
Final reads? I don't know. Like I literally don't know. Sorry town. I played better.
Just try to make sure Palmar & ThePoofter are lynched
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why on earth would you shoot an active player like that you moron.
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I'm not scum Koshi, stop it.
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Also Cephiro. Don't forget him. Alakaslam.
Alakaslam
Poofter
Palmar
Cephiro
Those 4. Don't forget them
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