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OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
I just said in my previous lay out.. SnB is so hit or miss for me right now. I will consolidate if we need to. I don't think he's being very townly. But most town don't play townie anymore. I am at a loss on if SnB is actually scum or bad townie. Run me down a list on why I should vote him. And yes. it actually mattters. I won't let a no lynch happen if I can stop it. But he's not my choice or the only one up for the block right now. | ||
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OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
Another thing and possibly bigger. Caller claims dayvig by shooting Prp. Prp is still alive. Mods have since updated vote count and Prp is still alive. Caller is lying. Ceph nuked BH. He then voted for Oats. Why does your failed nuke target not = your vote as scum target? Confused. | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On April 28 2014 11:43 strongandbig wrote: Sry guys can't post any more tonight, gf is here and we're going to bed soon. Anyway I've made all the defense I want to and I'm comfortable with killing oats. Also comfortable with killing ve and slam. Probably also bh. Honestly if there's a last minute voteswitch to anyone other than oats it should probably be to slam. Even his explanation doesn't make sense, when he shot Yamato he had already said he was gonna shoot bh not ramdomize between my voters. Seems like an excuse to use a shot without having to justify a strong scum read. It's not just a yolo trollshot like caller's fake nuke was, IMO. Anyway I'll try and sneak a peek at my phone in an hour or so to see if I need to switch my vote. But I've explained my thought processes already and if you still think I'm lying then fine, at least if I get lynched I'll flip town and you can all QQ about how wrong you were. I didn't see it until after the fact. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
Vote Count! Palmar (1) - Caller (0) - Geript (0) - VisceraEyes (0) - prplhz (immune) (0) - strongandbig (8) - Foolishness, Alakaslam, Geript, Palmar, Koshi, Cephiro (0) - Foolishness (0) - Oatsmaster (8) - Austinmcc, Blazinghand (1) - VisceraEyes Sandroba (1) - VayneAuthority, Alakaslam (1) - Oatsmaster Not Voting (2) - tehpoofter, gumshoe until lynch. With 22 alive, 12 votes are needed to lynch. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On April 28 2014 12:04 OdinOfPergo wrote: OK. I haven't really thought about everything yet. So this is really subject to peer review. But let me lay it out as best I can. Geript,VE,Slam, and Yam claimed to have dayvig. Or at least soft claimed it. The only person to retract on this is Geript if I have been reading things correctly. So.. Who between Slam, VE, and Geript is scum? Yam already died. I refuse to believe that scum Yam outted himself without making ANY action.. to let his scum team KILL him for wifom. That's retarted. We don't need a Yam flip to presume he was town. SnB This guy is such a hot topic. I really feel uncomfortable with his lynch atm though. Like I read it... and come to the conclusion "This dude totes scum" and then someone post something and I re-read And then I am like "Wtf Odin, you so confirmation biased" Basically, I've been double guessing myself the entire game with him. I'm confused and I'm not sure if he's scum or bad town. Cephiro voting Oats is pretty interesting to me. I don't like Oats play. I have no regards to Ceph play. And what I mean by "no regards" is this guy has literally posted ONE post since this game has begun. He has 4 other post but they don't appear to say much. So why the heck is Ceph flying under the radar? Why is he silent voting Oats? Will we ever know? Given circumstances, probably not. This dude could totes be scum. Lastly since I'm running short on time. Geript soft claims dayvig in his post towards WoS. He later gives this up. I don't remember the exact post right now but filter him or w/e. there is a "or else" Wave replies something to the lines of "that's cute babe" I didn't take much of it from then but now it MAY be important. Consider that Geript,Yam,VE, and Slam have claimed dayvig. This is a retarded amount of KP for town during the day. I don't buy it for a second. Yam died. I don't believe he had dayvig but I do believe he was town. One. Maby two if NOT 3 of them are either strait FULL of Themselves, outright lying, or scum. I full well and strongly claim quite full of myself. 4 left... | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
BH I am saving a post to switch to oats at deadline if SNB isn't gonna be it. Will you be here? Anyone else on SNB gonna be here? 3 left | ||
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On April 28 2014 12:07 OdinOfPergo wrote: sorry, if Oats flips mafia then I think we should look at Ceph. Wording too strong. Cephiro is voting for Oats, one of the first few to vote. Doesn't seem likely unless strongandbig is also mafia with them (not advocating this as very likely). | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On April 28 2014 11:59 Blazinghand wrote: Is oats scummy/scum? You've not mentioned him and didn't respond to my question earlier. Regardless of the lynch/no-lynch situation, whatchoo think about oats's alignment?fine i can't have a no-lynch ##unvote ##vote oats On April 28 2014 11:14 geript wrote: If Oats's reads change because of posts, or because a fortune cookie told him to, or for NO REASON WHATSOEVER, then that's varying degrees of fine by me.Part of the reasoning for switching off Caller is that the fake nuke changes the whole point of lynching him in the first place. I don't find that strange to include. So I'd say you're half right, ie Oats not really properly explaining my vote on SnB but I'm really not seeing this as an important issue. If Oats says his reads change because of x, when x doesn't happen, then that's NOT fine by me. And if Oats's reads change in a way that I don't think they SHOULD, or it appears he gives zero craps about his reads (Palmar is playing anti-town and Caller is town for killing him --> NEVER MENTION PALMAR AGAIN AND LYNCH SNB OVER PALMAR AND NEVER EVER EVER DISCUSS PALMAR AGAIN, making it appear that he's not actually trying to read Palmar and/or doesn't care about lynching his scumreads). It's an important issue, to me, because IF he's "not really properly explaining" your change in votes, then what he's "not really properly explaining" is why he never mentions his anti-town dude palmar again and why you are town for giving up on a policy lynch when he didn't think you were policy lynching, just using that as cover for a mislynch (because again, you were "masking" your lynch as a policy lynch). Instead, he "not properly explains" what is basically 60% or more of his contributions to this game. That is not good. If he can't explain where he's getting this stuff from, then he can't explain his reads/votes, which are really what he's done this game. Not only that, but it's not that he goes "Nope, can't explain it!" It's that he TRIES to, by saying something that isn't true. There are like...two trains of thoughts there: (1) I am oats. Geript is scum for pushing this caller lynch. He says it's a policy lynch for caller's actions, but he's really "masking" it as policy ----> geript is mafia for pushing caller and is trying to get a mislynch, by getting votes for his "policy." Palmar is anti-town for saying he'll mess with town if we don't kill caller. Okay geript is now town for unvoting Caller. With NO explanation for why you were pushing a mislynch by "masking" your caller lynch as policy can suddenly be a town thing when you unvote (he was lynching you because he found your MOTIVES scummy, not because he thought votes on caller in general were scummy. your MOTIVES didn't change with your unvote, only the location of your vote). Do people see this? Oats doesn't think Geript is policy lynching Caller. Oats thinks Geript wants a mislynch, and is covering himself by CLAIMING it's policy -----> he thinks Geript's motivations behind the lynch are scummy scummy scum scum. But when Geript does nothing more than unvote, doesn't give any updated caller read, doesn't say caller is now town, blah blah, Oats unvotes him. While Geript's VOTE has changed, his REASONING never changed, and Oats appeared to actually dislike Geript's reasoning and thought he was pushing a mislynch. Oats shouldn't be magically happy just because Geript typed a new vote, without seeing anything else. (2) I am oats. Palmar is anti-town for holding town hostage. Geript is superscum for pushing Caller. Oh, Geript unvoted Caller and is now townie. Let's vote SnB. No mention of Palmar again. Not when moving his vote ("I'm oats and I'm ahppy to lynch SnB or Palmar, who I still think is superscum how do you guys not see this?"), and not when returning to thread ("austinmcc is wrong about me and my palmar read, here's why and here's my current palmar read"). He says NOTHING about Palmar ever again, despite calling him anti-town and scummy and moving his vote later. Just no words on Palmar, and when pointed out that he said NOTHING about palmar, he proceeded to.........say nothing about Palmar. ((3) is that Oats says "Geript changed his vote FOR THIS REASON AND THIS REASON ONLY" despite providing no quotes that show that, there being NONE found by anyone else, and even Geript himself saying that oats didn't "really properly explain" wtf he's talking about and why he thought what he thought) I'ma check in again in 10 or so, then go to sleep. OOP, can you discuss YOUR thoughts in particular, regardless of what anyone else has said, about SnB and oats? Why do you feel how you feel, is there a particular thing in either filter you think others are missing? Is there like...one specific thing in either filter that makes you 99.9999999999% sure of either's alignment? Do you like butter? | ||
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OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
Or I wasn't at the time. I'm still not TOO worried about it. But how I proceed from here is going to stronly depend. I am going to go ahead and ##Donate: 2 post to Alakaslam. Now please tell me who you intend to shoot before this day is done. If you are in fact the town dayvig. (Like I'm presumming right now) Scum is never going to let you live through the night. SO you will die tonight. Thus give us what you can please. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On April 28 2014 12:14 OdinOfPergo wrote: Ok dear me. Another thing and possibly bigger. Caller claims dayvig by shooting Prp. Prp is still alive. Mods have since updated vote count and Prp is still alive. Caller is lying. Ceph nuked BH. He then voted for Oats. Why does your failed nuke target not = your vote as scum target? Confused. Ceph was nuking/shooting BH to prove that he (Cephiro) does not have any day shooting abilities. Cephiro did put BH in his "scummy" list in his first post I believe. I wouldn't read into it too much. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On April 28 2014 12:22 OdinOfPergo wrote: Slam I wasn't even thinking you were the one I was worried about in that scenario. Or I wasn't at the time. I'm still not TOO worried about it. But how I proceed from here is going to stronly depend. I am going to go ahead and ##Donate: 2 post to Alakaslam. Now please tell me who you intend to shoot before this day is done. If you are in fact the town dayvig. (Like I'm presumming right now) Scum is never going to let you live through the night. SO you will die tonight. Thus give us what you can please. I used my shot. Yamato77 is dead. Thanks for the posts though. 3 left. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
##Vote: strongandbig I've exceeded my allotted post limit. I have my reservations about a strongandbig lynch, but I think Oats is town and we're out of options. I don't see why anyone thinks we should keep Blazinghand around. I'm not a day-vig, I was never going to shoot yamato, that's fucked up of Slam, but who the hell can read that guy? I would maybe vote Slam tho if he were an option. I'm not sure how I feel about Foolishness - he mentioned me a couple of times in his mega post and I can't help but wonder why. The only time I ever sheeped a vote was onto Caller and it was because a few people were calling him scum and conceded that I could be wrong. He's not a terrible vote though, he's certainly not projecting very townie aside from his non-shot. We don't know if he knew it would be fake. If he did then we can maybe assume he's town for using it the way he did, but he didn't really discuss any of the information he could have gathered from it so that's meehhhh. I could vote Caller too at this point. If anyone wants to donate me a couple of posts I won't waste them, but this is approximately where I stand right now and I'm rereading too. | ||
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OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
I'll try to explain my Oats/SnB reads. I'm not entire sure on how many Ieft/ But I know it's enough to cover this. I'm only wasting this post to tell you that because it probably won't be 10 minutes. I'm a slow reader. Even more so when I'm trying to think about things. It will be at least 30 minutes if not more but I will have it up before the day is done hopefully. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
Read my filter use this post I give you to tell me why I shot yam? I hope you will, even Spoilered if you have to. ##Donate: 1 post to VisceraEyes 1 left. Reserved for switch vote if necessary. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On April 28 2014 05:05 prplhz wrote: durr hurr hurr durr. hurr? durrrrr ##unvote ##vote: prplhz no wait i am pardoned and cannot be lynched today NICE READING THE THREAD MORON This has to go in the Hall of Fame thread of great Caller moments. Jesus fucking christ rofl. @foolishness: You know that meta case is weak :/ On April 28 2014 06:29 WaveofShadow wrote: Also Ace hasn't mentioned NBA or posted gifs Lynch dat guy I think question today honestly comes down to which of the older vets cares the least and we lunch them S ndroba/ace/palmar/caller gogogogo ![[image loading]](http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Mddk7CwwhbY/Um9uqiX-OZI/AAAAAAAAOh0/ew3DCcen_vU/s1600/Doc-Rivers.gif) On April 28 2014 08:05 Alakaslam wrote: ##Shoot: Yamato77 Reason: I was out of posts and can post my reason with the shot. I can't change my vote folks and I was already looking at Yam shot. Not playing pro town much at all IMO. good shot imo (I'm joking). so ummm..Palmar lynch people? Stop being pussies. Sack up and lets do this shit. ***serious point: Not voting for SnB. I'm not convinced about Oats but if we need consolidation I'll vote him over SnB. Palmar is my #1 choice. donate 10 posts to VE | ||
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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