On April 27 2014 00:14 Ace wrote: I can't say much about Caller's thought process with regards to myself/foolishness being in this game. I guess you've never seen him play but the basics of it is nobody is going to deter him from doing as he wants. He'll just disappear and not give an explanation for his actions.
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Either I need to watch a ton of Spock or I am going to be referring to Caller as "Brother" & stuff before you know it
On April 27 2014 01:15 yamato77 wrote: I'd almost want to pre-empt Caller's nuke at this point, just to make sure Palmar DOESN'T do whatever it is he said he would.
what exactly are you scared of? Read the role list. there is nothing that can do what caller is claiming to do...
anyways I'm wary of any long time players that are taking this caller thing really seriously, potential scum there.
Did you expect no one would do this?
Couldn't find a non-shut down vid of "drunk chicken/America" but that is what I would have put.
On April 27 2014 03:25 sandroba wrote: There are no roles that provide fake nukes. Setup is semi-closed. Re: palmar he is softing pardoner. What we will do is we will lynch caller. If palmer pardons him he is claiming scum. If he is town and wants to ruin the game by pardoning caller it is simply illogical and there is nothing we can do about that.
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What motivation does scum have to launch a nuke at each other and then pardon?
Therefore both can't be scum. But you say I we lynch caller, scum Palmar will pardon him- why the hell why?
What assurance do you have that Caller is scum? Because if he is not, he is the wrong lynch, just like most of us.
Only a scum lynch is an acceptable lynch. Yet you are advocating strange policy stuff that I can't see eye to eye with for the life of me.
On April 27 2014 07:15 Palmar wrote: Oh nuke lands 24h after launch.
Fuck it then. 2 hours to shoot caller or i start doing asshole things
Or you could just be super town. Wave. Tell me what your role does in our secret love language or else. WHERE IS MY SNOOGLEWOOGLE??????? ABBA 4 LIFE. Gumshoe not really posting yet is super odd. 5
On April 28 2014 05:47 Cephiro wrote: EBWOP: Anyone need posts in the meanwhile? I won't be needing all of mine remaining for the day cycle.
Please.
Aaaand I am out. Yamato I second VE, please pick it up, and Prplhz of course I say nothing- this is post 25.
WoS
WHAT. WHAT YOU WANT US TO DO TO MAKE THE GAME BETTER. WE EVEN HAVE POST RESTRICTION WHAT IS THIS? SSON I PUT DRUNK CHICKENS YOU ARE NOT ENTERTAINED? I EVEN HAVE ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED CHICKEN
I mean what do you want out of a mafia game? Get in here, figure it out- or gladly I will accept thine posts!!!
Reason: I was out of posts and can post my reason with the shot. I can't change my vote folks and I was already looking at Yam shot. Not playing pro town much at all IMO.
On April 28 2014 08:08 austinmcc wrote: ##donate 3 posts to Alakaslam
Now you can explain what's so anti-town about yamato / why he's worth a shot D1 / why anyone else being anti-town isn't
AND
you can post something silly
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you can respond to people when they question/agree with your reasoning
I'll look at Sicilian and poke around snb's here filter more, but I'd still much much much much rather lynch oats right now
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU
however timing could have been better.
On April 28 2014 08:09 Palmar wrote: Terrible shot buddy. Yamato very likely town because he was being way too blatant about being a dick and doing nothing.
Well, I did consider this. However, this is how I saw the situation. I was stuck on a vote putting me in RNG range of Yamato, and wasn't sure if anyone else was in that position. However if one of his targets inadvertently ran out o posts, it could potentially be very anti town. Also, the player list currently on SNB is so many skilled folks that no matte what such a proposal is in itself one of the anti town things Austin wants me to produce.
Also, I was considering shooting Koshi today, which I recanted, and then I considered you, Palmar, and also recanted that. I considered Foolishness In a moment of forgetfulness wanting to determine his alignment, but later. And, having remembered that this is no-flip, I recanted that and besides read further posting by him.
I considered shooting a few other folks just to troll if I couldn't find a good shot but that sums it up.
I am not posting another silly thing. Posts are precious which is the point!
Thanks for coming back WoS. I for or I considered shooting WoS too as I thought didn't want to play anymore
On April 28 2014 08:16 prplhz wrote: This is my last post. Cephiro or anyone, hit me with some posts, I'll be around for some time and this is my 25th post.
I think Alakaslam is scum. No townie would do this dumb shit. When you are vigilante and you're not facing a scum shot then you hold your shot and you wait. No need to rush it. Especially in no flip games you don't shoot somebody just because you have a dumb (dumbb dumb dbum dbumdubd bduMDBUDMB DUBM DUBD UB) d1 hunch.
Would vote Alakaslam but I saw how Caller got off scot free, maybe you wont lynch him and then Oatsmaster is good. Please give me some posts or I will literally go insane from not being able to post.
Dang it this is precious dude, but I would give you this post. Thing is I am using it to remind you that in my shot post, I state that it is in response to his RNG threat. Not only for my own sake but everyone on there.
I agree best to save the shot but, I had claimed dayvig already, among other reasons previously stated to use it early.
I agree though scum may well be please with what I am doing if yam is scum, and I would ironically be equally anti-town as I feared he was going to be...
Or would I? Was Yam doing such great stuff? Neither Arendt vets at the moment, but Ace and Blazinghand at the least (would toss foolishness in but for ppl sheep him too fast and I think it is dangerous) have been making sense.
Prplhz I would give you a post but in the event you get some, I am saving a reply.
On April 28 2014 07:36 yamato77 wrote: it's literally imperative that we don't lynch my one solid townread
you know what, don't RNG it. If people don't move off of SnB you shoot ME. You don't get to say rng or anything like that, so if you want to threaten someone, threaten BlazingHand and own up to the thread. Say you'll kill me, the best scumhunter on all of TL, if you don't get your why. Whine and cry like a baby and be specific about who you are shooting. I volunteer.
And you won't shoot, either. You know why? You don't have the guts.
Get in line, your read on SnB is wrong, we're lynching him today. nothing's stopping this wagon.
I don't think you know how much I was actually just going to shoot you regardless of the outcome of the rng.
NONONO WAIT EHAT
DONT THREAT HAA TYOH DONT MEAN THEN!
HIJOLE
GAAH WHAT IS THIS. PRPLHZ YOU GET WHOT POSTS TO TAX ME WITH I DEAERCE IT
On April 26 2014 22:53 prplhz wrote: One thing is to propose a dumb plan or come up with a dumb read, townies do that all the time and disagree on whether it's actually dumb or not. Another thing is shooting someone a couple posts into the game, everybody know that's a dumb thing to do. There aren't multiple points of view here, I know it's a dumb thing, you know it's a dumb thing, Caller knows it is a dumb thing. Caller knows it's a dumb anti townie thing and he's doing anyway and that's really all there is to it: people who know something is anti town and yet proceed to do it are likely scum, it's that simple.
As much as trying to think about the game as an environment where people for for the logical or optimal choices, that's not what happens here. I don't even bother trying to make my assumptions on optimal plays or expecting someone to do what I feel is logical since it just won't happen. Townies rarely make the best choices available, even if it seemed like an easy choice looking at it later on. As scum, you can intentionally play sub-optimally to make you look more town to people that assume there is no reason to not do such. (Such as in my last game in Cell, I pushed for geript at the end instead of prplhz when going for prplhz would have been the "easy" mislynch, but I thought that if I push for him it may seem to others too easily as the obvious mislynch pick, and that someone might pick on the logic and defend me for not going for prplhz even though I could have done that, since "trying to get geript lynched made no sense from mafia perspective".
On April 28 2014 04:54 prplhz wrote: If what Caller did was super scummy to everyone then why didn't people want to lynch him? He only got 4 votes, including sandroba and Ace who usually have quite a bit of town pull. Hence it needed more explanation, I responded to people using arguments like "too dumb to be scum" and explained why they didn't apply. If what caller did was super scummy to everyone then why didn't people want to lynch him?
There's just no point in going 100% "Lynch Caller" after what he did, agree on that and kill the discussion, it doesn't get us anywhere. Especially with the most votes -> disable daykill powers mechanic which can be used in interesting ways. If it had been a real nuke, I'd probably be voting to lynch Caller right now. I still don't like what he did, but at the moment I feel it was much more likely to come from a town player rather than a scum player. At start when we "can afford", there's no reason to force ourselves into a decision at the start of a cycle when a lot of things can still come up.
Point of curiosity: Just how many posts did JAT waste solely on asking people to donate him more? Yeah. Using your last posts to provide nothing yet ask for more is a bit interesting.. contradictory even. Given that you can't be sure you'll gain any, why not make use of what you have left if you're in danger of running out?
@geript: I prefer to concentrate on one thing at a time, enjoy esports first and delve into mafia later, rather than do both half-assedly at the same time.
Alakaslam: Retarded shot. And here I was thinking you might be town a while ago.
General: I am not getting on snb wagon, I feel like it's a mislynch wagon. The oats wagon might be onto something however, and I don't see any bad names on that wagon either. If I had to consolidate on someone, I would get on Oats.
Caller's shot is terribad. Why prp...?
Will be around for a little while or until I fall asleep. Also doing this to prove I have no KP:
#Kill: Blazinghand #Nuke: Blazinghand
... Only one hash, proves nothing -_-
On April 28 2014 09:57 geript wrote: To snooglewoogle I am the oats whisperer. I don't think any of your points actually make him scum. Normal people, maybe but not oats IMO. I'm really surprised slam shot without any provocation. That's pretty far out his character. Like really really far out of his character. Enough so that I'm considering him again. I don't get why Sandroba doesn't like the SnB stuf. ~16
No provocation?!?
Did you read my given reason for my shot?!?
I was in an RNG list he set up with no posts left! I was half defending all the vets on that list, a quarter getting an opportunity to say something, and a quarter self defense!
Stuff like this I say please AMA about my shot because clearly I did not make myself understood!
On April 28 2014 11:43 strongandbig wrote: Sry guys can't post any more tonight, gf is here and we're going to bed soon. Anyway I've made all the defense I want to and I'm comfortable with killing oats. Also comfortable with killing ve and slam. Probably also bh.
Honestly if there's a last minute voteswitch to anyone other than oats it should probably be to slam. Even his explanation doesn't make sense, when he shot Yamato he had already said he was gonna shoot bh not ramdomize between my voters. Seems like an excuse to use a shot without having to justify a strong scum read. It's not just a yolo trollshot like caller's fake nuke was, IMO.
Anyway I'll try and sneak a peek at my phone in an hour or so to see if I need to switch my vote. But I've explained my thought processes already and if you still think I'm lying then fine, at least if I get lynched I'll flip town and you can all QQ about how wrong you were.
EPT
