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sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
April 29 2014 20:20 GMT
#435
On April 30 2014 05:11 27ninjabunnies wrote:
@Sqrt, and your thoughts on tamburini?

{Possibly mafia. He pushed yellow first. His whole case against yellow is just strange. I don't like him.
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sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
April 29 2014 20:21 GMT
#436
Yeah, eden's starting to look a lot fishy. He isn't contributing anything really. I'm voting him.
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sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
April 29 2014 20:25 GMT
#440
Okay, I see what you're getting at. Other than Yellow, who else do you suspect, and who have you cleared?
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sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
April 29 2014 20:28 GMT
#443
And where were you the last couple of hours? You were active during that time last game.
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sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
April 29 2014 20:32 GMT
#444
On April 30 2014 05:27 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2014 05:10 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Well, I'm willing to bet that scum team isn't bunnies + yellow or epishade + yellow.


why couldn't it be epishade and yell0w? epishade was deflecting HARD for yell0w early on.

Exactly. Early on. Now, he's not.
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sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
April 29 2014 20:34 GMT
#445
On April 30 2014 05:26 ritoky wrote:
sqrt: I don't know if it is a stylistic thing or what, but there's something weird here. Lots of prods, short comments, and question asking, not much in the way of legwork. Combine that with the lack of seriousness early on and it just strikes me as all very odd. I don't read him as projecting town in any way; whereas most other people I can read town aspects to what they do and say.

It's a stylistic thing. Look at my other games.
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sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
April 29 2014 20:36 GMT
#448
On April 30 2014 05:34 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2014 05:32 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
On April 30 2014 05:27 ritoky wrote:
On April 30 2014 05:10 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Well, I'm willing to bet that scum team isn't bunnies + yellow or epishade + yellow.


why couldn't it be epishade and yell0w? epishade was deflecting HARD for yell0w early on.

Exactly. Early on. Now, he's not.


you don't think that there is even a possibility that epishade bailed from the sinking ship that is a mafia partner going down in flames?

I am not saying it is a likelihood, but the fact that you don't even have that in your mind as a possibility concerns me.

It's pretty darn unlikely. But possible.
I'm willing to bet that it's not them.
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sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
April 29 2014 22:57 GMT
#463
Amiko, I want to know who you've cleared as town. You've stated your scum reads, but I want to know your town reads also.
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sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
April 30 2014 02:38 GMT
#473
Nothing is going on. Early sleep for me.
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sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
April 30 2014 22:50 GMT
#546
I don't like the claim. But I think we need to let him be, because we need that kill.
Imaginary
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
April 30 2014 23:04 GMT
#547
I think Ahswtini is mafia.
9 posts so far.
First post, he wants to lynch Yellow for joke posts.
Second post, he says he doesn't suspect tambo as much b/c he put himself in the spotlight, and he thinks bunny is the most town.
Third post, he says that we don't know how many mafia there are.
Forth post, he turns against tambo, asks him questions.
Fifth post,
On April 30 2014 04:32 ahswtini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2014 04:25 Yell0w wrote:
Also, unrelated, but that is actually something I wanted to talk about and forgot, I do think it's really important to act town if you're town, so other townies know you're town too, if no one believes you're town, they won't listen to you, won't lynch with you, it can lead to a mafia win just because the townies weren't being obvious townies so nobody trusted anybody.

I'm going to agree with this, wanting to make a conscious effort to appear town is also indicative of a new town player who lacks confidence. So far, I've been struggling because I want to make posts to avoid getting fos'd as an inactive, but at the same time I don't want to be rehashing existing ideas.

is really just saying that he doesn't want to get killed even though he hasn't been posting much.
Sixth post, he indulges Amiko's request of his thoughts on Sweetfrost.
Seventh post,
On April 30 2014 18:32 ahswtini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2014 15:15 Epishade wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Ok, so I've been looking through filters for a while now, and have come up with my likely scumteam candidates: Sweetfrost, Tamburini, and Ritoky. I'll give my reasoning.

The main thing that I can see between these three is that all of them are pushing really hard for Yellow's lynch, but also clearing each other at the same time.

Sweetfrost clears Ritoky as town and is trying to kill Yellow while attempting to discredit Bunny (and Sqrt) through these posts.

On April 30 2014 05:43 Sweetfrost wrote:
I can understand that it seems supicious that I don't want to voice an opinion on everyone in the game but since I'm not really sure what I think about the people I haven't talked about I feel it would be stupid to talk about them. I'm not going to give an state an opinion that I actually don't belive in.

But I'm willing to say that I consider Ritoky cleared as town, I like his analysis and they don't seem supicious and he's not jumping on any bandwagons and instead making good independet analysis. I agree with him that sqrt posts are very numerous, short and prodding at people to make analysis all the time. I believe that it's a sign of sqrt being scum.

So to sum it up.

Cleared : ritoky
Possible scum : Yellow/bunny and sqrt

On April 30 2014 04:57 Sweetfrost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2014 04:40 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Other than your yellow read, what are your reads, @sweetfrost?


Well as I stated I suspect Bunny being scum for his efforts of trying very hard to build up a positive relationship with everyone. See my previous posts.

As for the rest I'm very unsure and still don't want to give a public opinion on anyone since it would just be misleading, I don't have an opinion on the rest yet. So the only thing I'm willing to say right now is that I don't trust Bunny and Yellow.


Sweetfrost's plan was to undermine Bunny by saying that he thought she was trying too hard to play townie. I disagree and think Bunny was moving town in the right direction by engaging Yellow in that initial push.



Ritoky has been slightly accusatory against Sqrt, which is in line with Sweetfrost's opinion on Sqrt as well, as shown in the post above. They are slowly building up support against Sqrt to lynch him at a later time it seems to me.

On April 30 2014 05:26 ritoky wrote:
sqrt:I don't know if it is a stylistic thing or what, but there's something weird here. Lots of prods, short comments, and question asking, not much in the way of legwork. Combine that with the lack of seriousness early on and it just strikes me as all very odd. I don't read him as projecting town in any way; whereas most other people I can read town aspects to what they do and say.

My biggest problem with Ritoky though, is how quickly he changed his opinion on Yellow. He first decided that Yellow was likely not Scum when it seemed that pressure had been taken off Yellow. However, when Yellow was pressured again and started piggybacking off of what I said earlier, I think he saw an opportunity to bandwagon people against Yellow.

On April 29 2014 12:14 ritoky wrote:
I don't think yell0w is scum right now at all, he responded how he responded. It wasn't ideal, but he is sticking to his story saying it was a joke and I don't read him as hyper defensive about it. But you seem to be very pushy about this entire topic and very heavily deflecting for him. It could just be a legitimate read and belief that it is a joke, but you could also be mafia deflecting for another mafia or mafia trying to deflect/pocket a town who faced early pressure.

^Ritoky said this before Yellow got suspicion on him again. His wording here is what throws me off a bit. "I don't think Yellow is scum right now at all." He says this when pressure starts dropping off of yellow. Then, a little later on, Yellow is put back in the spotlight. Eden votes for Yellow, then Ritoky decides to join in by saying he isn't opposed to a lynch. I think he thought that, with other public support against Yellow outside of mafia, he'd be able to bandwagon against Yellow as the first lynch.

On April 30 2014 13:15 ritoky wrote:
@yellow: Regarding your opinion on mtamburini, it may just be a difference of opinion. But you were highly defensive and highly concerned with appearance. And I think it is very right that you are pressured heavily based on that fact.

Regarding what you said about sqrt, I could not agree more with "he did seem to be trying to start conversations when there wasn't one, I just don't think he was doing anything when there was one". And in my mind he just did it again. He said there is nothing going on when you and I were clearly interacting. He just seems to be waiting for everyone else to play the game so that he can pick the winning side. Again, maybe it's a stylistic thing cuz basically nothing he says seems town to me so far, but I just can't find any reason to put him on the good side of the tracks

Here is where he attempts to discredit Sqrt.



Tamburini has been desperately trying to kill Yellow way too hard.

On April 29 2014 12:43 mtamburini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2014 12:35 mtamburini wrote:
On April 29 2014 12:20 Yell0w wrote:
Just before I leave, just one question for rikory, what would have been a better response from me? What was the ideal response?


Wow... Just wow...


Bunnies I think we need to apply pressure back on YELLOW. How should I have responded? If your town you shouldnt care on how to appear more towny. This a classic rookie mafia mistake.

##VOTE: Yell0w

I mentioned this before and I'll say it again. This sounds like a flimsy excuse to me to lynch someone. Obviously town SHOULD care that they appear townie. You want to try everything possible to stop from getting lynched. Acting town AS A TOWNIE is the best way to accomplish that. He even continues his assault below.

On April 29 2014 12:52 mtamburini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2014 12:47 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On April 29 2014 12:43 mtamburini wrote:
On April 29 2014 12:35 mtamburini wrote:
On April 29 2014 12:20 Yell0w wrote:
Just before I leave, just one question for rikory, what would have been a better response from me? What was the ideal response?


Wow... Just wow...


Bunnies I think we need to apply pressure back on YELLOW. How should I have responded? If your town you shouldnt care on how to appear more towny. This a classic rookie mafia mistake.

##VOTE: Yell0w


I was reading that too, tamburini, however, as of now, yellow seems t be much off of the table.
It could also be a rookie town mistake, wanting to know how it made him look scummy instead of townie.


Fuck that shit no one is off the table today, I want this Yell0w person to die after everything thats happened.

1 Sarcasm
2 Asking how I can be more towny is not towny.

These are 2 really good reasons to push harder on Yell0w. I liked bunnies initial push but wasnt ready to jump on board just yet, wanted Yell0w to talk some more and see what they had to say, and I did not like anything said so far.


I believe Tamburini was trying to get Bunny back on Yellow's case so that she might rally other people in support against Yellow so that he and his group would be able to vote for Yellow with the majority of Town.

On April 30 2014 01:16 mtamburini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2014 00:27 dfs wrote:
@sqrt, to be fair, I never actually called anyone anything, yet. I simply shared my points of interest at that time, and my thoughs on them.
What is interesting to me now is how you just cleared yell0w altogether? A person who is getting the most pressure so far.


I like this fellow. Has not said much of anything but has picked up on something that no one else had really brought up (maybe not even thought about too)

Can you give more details on yellow and/or anyone else?


When dfs comes into the thread and says something against Sqrt, Tamburini says "I like this fellow" and basically nothing else. Once again, he's working one small step at a time to get support against Sqrt with his team. Then he asks dfs what he thinks about Yellow and/or anyone else. He doesn't just say "Can you give more details on anyone?" He makes sure to include Yellow outside of that 'anyone else' so that dfs would be more likely to respond specifically on Yellow. Then, if dfs thought that Yellow was scum, Tamburini would have even more support to lynch Yellow.

------------------------------

I believe that Eden had some good reads to come up with on Yellow (like that he wasn't actively scumhunting) that led to him arriving to vote at Yellow at his own discretion. I still wouldn't classify Eden as scum, but I do disagree with his vote.

tldr:
I think Tamburini, Ritoky, and Sweetfrost are all scum for a couple of factors. They all want to get rid of Yellow. They've shown distrust in me and Bunny, whom I would consider the most town player here so far. They have cleared each other at different times (Tamburini as an exception, hasn't cleared Ritoky and Sweetfrost, but has been cleared by them). And, they've all shown support against Sqrt as well, which I assume is to lynch him easier down the road.

This is a great post. I have nothing insightful of my own to add to the analysis there.

However, out of the three, I think mtamburini is the best lynch here. ritoky and sweetfrost's posts are better in that they talk about many different people, whereas mtamburini seems to be gunning straight for yell0w. Therefore it'll be handier to keep ritoky and sweetfrost around for longer as we can get more information out of them provided they continue their way of posting.

##Vote: mtamburini

he just says he likes the post by epishade, and then wants to lynch tambo.
His most recent post is simply a collection of what's been going on.

Think about it, he hasn't been doing anything really, just saying that he likes this, or saying that he agrees with that. His largest post is a collection of what's been going on. I asked for his reads once, he never said anything about them. He's not useful. He's lurking.
I'm pretty darn sure he's mafia, and if he's not, we will have lynched a townie that hasn't been contributing.
##Vote: ahswtini
Imaginary
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
April 30 2014 23:56 GMT
#548
And there was silence. Where is everyone? You guys were active like 10 minutes ago.
Imaginary
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
April 30 2014 23:59 GMT
#549
Bunnies, I want your take on the action so far, specifically the vigi claim.
Imaginary
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
May 01 2014 00:02 GMT
#550
And you, Amiko.
Imaginary
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
May 01 2014 00:20 GMT
#552
On May 01 2014 07:37 Eden1892 wrote:
- Even if he's not roleblocked, we have no way of knowing he's not the serial killer. In fact, his specific suggestion that the parity cop check him tonight and someone else n2 would fit perfectly with a serial killer planning to pick investigation immunity tonight.

No, serial killer must choose before d1 starts.
Imaginary
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
May 01 2014 00:26 GMT
#554
After reading that, I see the strong probability that tambo is serial killer.
However, what if he is vigi? We lose a huge asset.
For mafia, who would be the logical n1 kill? The vigi claim. That's obvious. Whether or not he's serial killer doesn't matter to them, mafia's not gonna take that chance. Mafia will kill him n1. I say we let him be. I say we take the chance and believe him.
Imaginary
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
May 01 2014 00:27 GMT
#555
Wait a second, I realized something. If he is serial killer, then he could have chosen protection from 1kp, that means that if we leave him be, he can simply survive the mafia kp.
Imaginary
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
May 01 2014 00:27 GMT
#556
Okay, my vote's on him.
Imaginary
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
May 01 2014 00:34 GMT
#558
You know that if he turns vigi, my fos will go on you, right?
Imaginary
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
May 01 2014 00:38 GMT
#560
Just saying.
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