On May 02 2014 10:14 sqrtofneg1 wrote: Well, if I were vigi, tambo is highly unlikely vigi.
As for the amount of mafia games, do you mean here on team liquid? This is my third team liquid game, and aside from that, I've only played irl mafia. I've played irl mafia for about 4 years now, I think.
Okay, so you know a bit about mafia.
True, if you were vigi, tambo would highly unlikely be vigi, unless the host decided to put two vigis in (which to me seems a little op).
But why bring this point up sqrt?
What do you have to gain from this questioning, unless you are the actual vigi?
Gamblers fallacy, there can be more than one of the same role in this game.
Not sure if Ill finish but if I die in the night ill leave you with some brief stuff,
Voting was different then im used to a lot of votes in different directions. Sweet kinda got blitzed in the end but I dont think mafia would reveal themselves that early in the game esp if there is no pressure on them and / or being voted on with no threat of being lynched. I wouldnt be completely surprised if all town voted on sweet frost the only person who had some pressure on them to be lynched was me and sqrt (kinda) and knowing that Im town I think mafia just held their votes where they were cause they were in no real situation to die yesterday
On May 03 2014 06:56 Yell0w wrote: So since I might get killed by tamburini, so just a few thoughts here.
I don't think this lynch was made by mafia, most likely scenario is we didn't scare mafia enough, so they just voted randomly. So if I am alive tomorrow, I'd probably look at some guys who didn't get votes against them and didn't vote for sweetfrost, I'd say at most one mafia voted against him, my bet would be sqrt. So I'd look towards the quiet people, like ahs, dravernor or mysterymeat, maybe dfs. That obviously depends on what happens during the night though.
On May 03 2014 07:40 Yell0w wrote: I'm a normal town guy, so your scenarios 1 and 3 aren't true, I don't think any town was convinced enough that I was town to save me, so 4 is not a possibility imo, the second scenario makes a lot of sense though, since you were the only one who claimed, if they have a roleblocker, there is no reason for them not to use it in case you shoot a mafia, and it causes confusion in town so we don't concentrate on the actual mafia but spend the day talking about you and me.
But really you ask me why I'm alive and then you claim you were roleblocked? Why would you ask if you already knew?
On May 03 2014 07:43 sqrtofneg1 wrote: I think it was mafia sided roleblocker. I think I'm the only one who strongly believes yellow is town, and I'm not roleblocker.
Why would a mafsided roleblocker stop mtamburini from killing a town player?
Yeah thats what I mentioned in my 4 scenarios.
My initial reaction was that maybe Yell0w blocked me as town or mafia roleblocker but then I opened up to other possibilities.
The one scenario where I get mafia roleblocked and Yell0w is town is to cause chaos between me and Yellow and deflect pressure off of the mafia team.
Yell0w has posted this already about me and him both being town in this scenario which I want to try and believe but if you are really town then I dont get why they wouldnt want to get another person who is town dead.
My hed is spinning thinking about why I got roleblocked and for what reasons.
I am happy that Jay Leno is dead mafia missed a blue role and killed a person who if ever got lynched wouldve fucked with our minds.
I was really fishing to see how you would react to a simple null statement that doesnt really have a good answer too (mafia do tend to slip up there) and your reactions thus far are ok for me at the moment. Not off my radar yet but there is other business to conduct.
We can look into sweet and akimo reads on the game and see what they were thinking and somewhat take it into account as genuine reads not fabricated and also look at their voting patterns.
I think both players only voted on one person and never changed to a different person. Akimo was on sweet (who we know is town now) and the other one is sweet (who voted on sqrt)
With 11 people left in the game my suspicion is there is probably a 3-4 man mafia team. So we may in theory only have 1 ML left unless I can shoot correctly tonight and not get role blocked.
I dont think theres a world where there is 5 mafia this game so I will be shooting again tonight if we hit scum, if we dont I will consider not shooting in the off chance were at LYLO the next day with 4 mafia and I shoot a town.
On May 03 2014 08:36 ahswtini wrote: Ok so mtambrini claimed he was blocked in the night, that still doesn't account for a missing kill, assuming there is a SK. So: either the SK or Mafia got roleblocked, or the jailkeeper pulled off a save. It's possible the SK or Mafia withheld their shot (the wording of the SK role implies he can withhold the shot "Once per night you can release a player from the game."). If a town roleblocker did act last night, I would have asked them to come out to us, but the problem is, the jailkeeper could also have been the one blocking the kill. It's not possible to know which one was responsible and we can't ask both of them to come out. And of course there's the increasingly likely possibility that there is no SK in this game.
That all aside, I really believe mtamburini is the vig. If he wasn't, the real vig should have shot him last night. Unless the real vig was roleblocked, but I don't see how Mafia would have access to such knowledge. There's no way any jailkeeper with a clue would have locked up mtamburini last night, so he certainly wasn't protected. Him getting roleblocked was to be expected - he's the only "confirmed" blue in the eyes of the Mafia. Then again there may be no vig in the game, and scum mtamburini lucked out with such a fakeclaim. In which case a big fuck you to the host
You are aware of the fact there could be more than one role right? We can have 2 vigi's this game.
I kinda skim read since my last post. Im kinda torn right now. I have a little bit more information then you guys knowing I got roleblocked. I started off by giving out some scenarios of what couldve happened. There is only 2 scenarios where he is town, and 2 where he is mafia.
Knowing yell0w's alignment will give me the most information of what happened last night from the scenarios Ive posted.
Not a lot of people have posted today and Id like to hear their opinions on what has happened and their beliefs on what happened with yesterdays lynch and night kill before I continue with my train of thought.
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