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Yell0w
Profile Joined April 2014
120 Posts
May 02 2014 22:40 GMT
#776
I'm a normal town guy, so your scenarios 1 and 3 aren't true, I don't think any town was convinced enough that I was town to save me, so 4 is not a possibility imo, the second scenario makes a lot of sense though, since you were the only one who claimed, if they have a roleblocker, there is no reason for them not to use it in case you shoot a mafia, and it causes confusion in town so we don't concentrate on the actual mafia but spend the day talking about you and me.

But really you ask me why I'm alive and then you claim you were roleblocked? Why would you ask if you already knew?
Yell0w
Profile Joined April 2014
120 Posts
May 02 2014 23:02 GMT
#786
On May 03 2014 07:49 mtamburini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2014 07:40 Yell0w wrote:
I'm a normal town guy, so your scenarios 1 and 3 aren't true, I don't think any town was convinced enough that I was town to save me, so 4 is not a possibility imo, the second scenario makes a lot of sense though, since you were the only one who claimed, if they have a roleblocker, there is no reason for them not to use it in case you shoot a mafia, and it causes confusion in town so we don't concentrate on the actual mafia but spend the day talking about you and me.

But really you ask me why I'm alive and then you claim you were roleblocked? Why would you ask if you already knew?


I really wanted a reaction from you first


I don't get how that would indicate anything, either I have no idea why, or I'm mafia and we have a roleblocker in the team, so I would say I have no idea why, or I'm the town roleblocker, so I'd just say I have no idea why, because why would I tell people I'm a roleblocker.

So there is no way you would get anything from my reaction, which would invariably be that I don't know why I'm alive.

There is still 2 other scenarios though, you're mafia or you're town but not the vigi.
Yell0w
Profile Joined April 2014
120 Posts
May 03 2014 13:46 GMT
#836
On May 03 2014 18:40 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
well first off, its good to be back. I promise from now on ill be posting a lot more so if you have any questions please let me know!

As for reads i'm suspicious of anyone that voted for sweetfrost except for bunnies casue i think she is town. I think it is almost guarenteed that mtamburini is vig as there have been no counterclaimes and that he was roleblocked. Im vanilla town and unfortunately i don't have a role. Just a loyal worshipper of the helix. I think ashwanti is town just cause he voted for me and the fact that i wasn't particualrly active. If bunnies doesn't die at night within the next couple of nights i would like to this she is mafia. However due to the fact that vigi is already known i expect her to live a few more nights which is unfortunate.

As for now i'm pretty suspicious of epishade.

I think dfs is town just cause his thoughts above are soo wrong.


How is ahs voting for you in any way indicative that he's town? He could have been sure that a town was getting lynched so he made a random vote that had no impact on anything, and we all think you're suspicious, so it's not like we were going to disagree with his vote.
Yell0w
Profile Joined April 2014
120 Posts
May 04 2014 16:17 GMT
#891
So because I haven't been posting much today, ima give you my reads right now, I feel they're pretty weak, I just don't seem to be as convinced as others that Epishade is mafia so here I go.

Bunnies: Pretty convinced she's town, she seems really genuine.
Eden: I thought he was suspicious all the way through day 1, but the fact that he keeps changing his minds on things, especially on me, while he could probably have gotten an easy lynch if he pushed makes me think he's a townie trying to get information and lynch a mafia, not just lynch the easy target.

Epishade: I had him as town before when he defended me at the beginning, but then I felt like he was trying to hard to make himself known as the guy who would be town if we mislynched me day 1, and then day 2 he immediately wants to lynch me while still thinking I'm town. Not convinced he's mafia though, I can see his play making sense if he's town. I also don't buy the argument that he's mafia because he voted to lynch a town. He was one of the first, if not the first, to say Sweetfrost was suspicious, and he was suspicious, so Epishade's vote makes sense and the BW on Sweetfrost happened after his vote.

sqrt: I found him pretty suspicious since pretty early in the game, I think most people did, just the way he posts, always short with minimum info on anything, mostly just asking weird questions to people. My biggest concern is his vote, he was the last to vote on Sweetfrost and his reason was that the general consensus is that he's mafia, that's some pretty hardcore bandwagoning. And his vote saved tamburini, I think a mafia sqrt would want to save a vigi tamburini because he was going to shoot a town (me). Would be fine with lynching him right now.

Tamburini: So that guy... I really don't like the way he played this game, but I guess I believe he's vigi, it's the most likely scenario, I'm not sure why everyone believe he cannot possibly be mafia though? It seems like everyone thinks he's vigi or maybe sk, but not mafia, I think he could be mafia and not have been roleblocked at all. I don't like that he's trying to lynch me again when he can just kill me if he's vigi, and I would be dead by now if he never claimed vigi and just played a better day 1. So I'd say most likely vigi, but I'm not convinced at all.

ritoky: I guess he seems mostly town, only thing I don't like is he was the only one to vote against ahs but didn't do anything to convince others that ahs was scummy and he didn't do much to defend Sweetfrost from a lynch despite that he thought Sweetfrost was town. Even Amiko pointed out that nobody was defending Sweetfrost. Maybe 63% town

People who are flying under the radar by barely posting:

dfs: No idea, hasn't posted enough, but he's the most town of the four barely active players though in my mind.

mysterymeat: He said he was going to be more active, he has barely been more active, a little at the beginning but then stopped, his read on dfs makes no sense to me, but I don't know why he would do it if he was mafia either. I kind of want to hear more from him, but would not be opposed to lynching him.

ahs: That guy's definitely fishy, I especially didn't like the post where he just shows up to make a recap of what others said without adding any kind of opinion to what was said. And then he just votes for mysterymeat, probably the easiest of targets. By not voting against one of the possible people getting lynched that day, he doesn't put himself in the crosshair.

dravernor: That guy just showed up a few time, hasn't posted yet in day 2 too btw, and everytime he makes a big post not saying anything, I mean he made a huge paragraph about me saying he was on the fence, then he wasn't, then he was, and other useless things, not saying why I was suspicious at all. This whole post is huge and lacks any kind of new information. In the end of that post, he votes against Epishade, and I have absolutely no clue why. The only thing he seems to disagree with others was Amiko and bunnies, he thought they were looking too town for him I guess. So I'd like to think he's mafia, but my concern is he doesn't seem to be with anybody at all, so if he's mafia I have no clue with whom.

So in conclusion, I don't have any strong scum reads right now, I know, I suck, I think I'm missing something or that the mafias are being inactive and letting us kill each other, I'm going to think about it all and I hope I find a strong suspect before the end of the day, but right now I'd be fine with a sqrt lynch or one of the 4 inactive people.
Yell0w
Profile Joined April 2014
120 Posts
May 04 2014 19:43 GMT
#907
@ahswtini

Yes, every mafias would know that you're town if you're town, I have no idea why you'd say that, and yes you are an easy target, because you've been acting suspiciously.

Also not sure why you aren't just voting against me if you want tamburini to shoot me so much tonight.
Yell0w
Profile Joined April 2014
120 Posts
May 04 2014 20:21 GMT
#912
So my vote doesn't matter at this point rigth? I'm fine with the sqrt lynch, but I'm just going to vote for tamburini because I think he deserves it, just this one vote to remind him that he shouldn't have claimed vigi day 1.

##Vote: mtamburini
Yell0w
Profile Joined April 2014
120 Posts
May 05 2014 13:21 GMT
#937
So let me get this straight, you're saying I'm "butthurt" because you want to kill me while you're the one who seems angry because I voted against you, and you say I should have actual reasoning behind my vote, while you want to kill me for no reason at all.

That all reminds me of that time you complained I used sarcasm and used sarcasm like 3 posts later, good times.
Yell0w
Profile Joined April 2014
120 Posts
May 05 2014 21:12 GMT
#943
On May 06 2014 04:35 mtamburini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 22:21 Yell0w wrote:
So let me get this straight, you're saying I'm "butthurt" because you want to kill me while you're the one who seems angry because I voted against you, and you say I should have actual reasoning behind my vote, while you want to kill me for no reason at all.

That all reminds me of that time you complained I used sarcasm and used sarcasm like 3 posts later, good times.


I vote mtam to teach him a lesson on claiming vig day 1.

SOUNDS BUTTHURT TO ME AND NOT TRYING TO FIGURE REST OF GAME OUT


It feels to me like you proved my point there.
Yell0w
Profile Joined April 2014
120 Posts
May 07 2014 15:13 GMT
#1021
There isn't a lot of time left and I'm not convinced any of the lynch target right now are mafia, I have this gut feeling that Eden might be mafia so I don't want to listen to him, but also ahs made a pretty solid case against mysterymeat.... But then again they could be a scum team trying to lynch him.

But right now I just want to know why tamburini seems to be considered by everyone to be 100% the vigi when he has done nothing to prove that, he didn't shoot or anything, I think it's possible he was never roleblocked too. Here's an scenario that's, I think, possible, he's scum with meat and claim he was roleblocked night 1 then meat claims he was roleblocked night 2 but none of that actually happened, the roleblock night 1 on tamburini was to make it seems like he was the vigi but he couldn't shoot and the one night 2 was because they were concerned meat was suspicious and we might lynch him so that by making it seems like he was roleblocked by mafia, he wouldn't be a suspect, though clearly that didn't work. Today they have been clearing each other pretty hard and tamburini in both mornings acted really weirdly, asking me why I was alive then asking who was roleblocked before saying if he was roleblocked or not is really strange behavior for a supposedly confirmed town. The only flaw I can see with that plan at first look is the vigi claim was really risky if you're not actually the vigi, maybe he just got lucky and there wasn't a vigi this game.

Anyways, I didn't analyze this thing fully, just something that randomly popped in my head, why is nobody considering the possibility that he isn't vigi? Why didn't they kill him if he's vigi? Why wouldn't he shoot if he's vigi?
Yell0w
Profile Joined April 2014
120 Posts
May 07 2014 15:37 GMT
#1023
On May 08 2014 00:30 mtamburini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2014 00:13 Yell0w wrote:
There isn't a lot of time left and I'm not convinced any of the lynch target right now are mafia, I have this gut feeling that Eden might be mafia so I don't want to listen to him, but also ahs made a pretty solid case against mysterymeat.... But then again they could be a scum team trying to lynch him.

But right now I just want to know why tamburini seems to be considered by everyone to be 100% the vigi when he has done nothing to prove that, he didn't shoot or anything, I think it's possible he was never roleblocked too. Here's an scenario that's, I think, possible, he's scum with meat and claim he was roleblocked night 1 then meat claims he was roleblocked night 2 but none of that actually happened, the roleblock night 1 on tamburini was to make it seems like he was the vigi but he couldn't shoot and the one night 2 was because they were concerned meat was suspicious and we might lynch him so that by making it seems like he was roleblocked by mafia, he wouldn't be a suspect, though clearly that didn't work. Today they have been clearing each other pretty hard and tamburini in both mornings acted really weirdly, asking me why I was alive then asking who was roleblocked before saying if he was roleblocked or not is really strange behavior for a supposedly confirmed town. The only flaw I can see with that plan at first look is the vigi claim was really risky if you're not actually the vigi, maybe he just got lucky and there wasn't a vigi this game.

Anyways, I didn't analyze this thing fully, just something that randomly popped in my head, why is nobody considering the possibility that he isn't vigi? Why didn't they kill him if he's vigi? Why wouldn't he shoot if he's vigi?


Its good your thinking about the game but in all reality would you rather kill the vigi or would you go for a role that could give out more information like parity cop?


Well if I was mafia, I would definitely have killed you or roleblocked you twice a row since you wanted to shoot me, which leads me to believe that if you are the vigi, you probably didn't suspect a mafia at all so they see you as harmless.
Yell0w
Profile Joined April 2014
120 Posts
May 07 2014 17:49 GMT
#1034
So I'm not convinced tamburini is the vigi, but it seems nobody is gonna agree with me so fine, but I'm not going to vote against meat, especially since I don't trust Eden and he started the vote against meat. I won't vote agaisnt bunnies either, I don't think Epishade is mafia, I don't think a vote against Eden is going to lead to a lynch because people think he's town and I don't have time to make an argument against him right now, especially since it's more of a gut feeling than anything, so of the rest, I think the most suspicious is dravernor so that's who I'm gonna vote. I just don't want to waste my vote on Eden, but if someone else vote against him I might follow.

##Vote: dravernor
Yell0w
Profile Joined April 2014
120 Posts
May 07 2014 18:56 GMT
#1042
Wait, what? You think me, dravernor and ahs are all mafia? Didn't I just vote against Dravernor? It's stuff like this that makes me think you're mafia leading town astray. You pushed tamburini day 1, arguing he wasn't mafia or vigi, when maybe you did think he was vigi and wanted to kill him, then you pushed sqrt day 2, who was town. Then you voted for meat, people followed you, now your new reads don't make much sense, but it seems likely we will lynch dravernor if nobody says anything and you don't change your vote, because people follow you, I'm not sure why.

So I'm going to change my vote, people can follow me or not, I think you're scum and it's the second time you put me as scum, both times right after I said I thought you were suspicious, and then when I say I think you're town, you think I'm town too, now THAT's suspicious.

##UNVOTE
##Vote: Eden1892
Yell0w
Profile Joined April 2014
120 Posts
May 07 2014 19:23 GMT
#1044
So you just made a summary of what just happened? And then vote for someone you didn't talk about in your post? Great post dfs, great post.
Yell0w
Profile Joined April 2014
120 Posts
May 07 2014 20:04 GMT
#1055
So what if you did? All that does for me is increase my suspicion that we're at LYLO. If you are mafia, you killing a teammate doesn't bring you any closer to defeat; you still only need to force one mislynch.


So that clearly doesn't make sense, it definitely puts me further from victory, why wouldn't I just take the easy win and lynch meat when he already had 3 votes if I'm mafia with drav and ahs?

If that's a case against me in the first paragraph, I don't understand it. Sounds like you're saying that because I've been trying to get my scum (or in d1 tambo's case anti-town) reads lynched, I'm mafia. Which doesn't make sense at all.


You've been actively leading town in the wrong direction, because you've been only targeting towns. I don't see how that doesn't make you suspicious.

The second paragraph is hella amusing because I was on you before you did anything of note against me d1 and I forgot about you in my initial list of reads from today. If there's one thing that doesn't point to it's "I care about what Yell0w thinks about me." And then in the same post where you vote for me after I call you suspicious, when previously you said it wasn't worth going after me today, you say that I'm suspicious because I'm reacting to you. If anyone's reacting to anyone else here, you're reacting to me.


No, you didn't say anything against me at the beginning when bunnies was on me, then I said I thought you were the most suspicious and then you arrive and make a huge case against me, you're clearly remembering wrong. And the argument isn't that you care what I think about you, it's that you care what people in general think about you and you just want to lynch them for thinking you're suspicious, which isn't at all what you should be doing if you're town, but it is exactly what you should do as mafia. And yes I'm reacting to you acting scummy, what's wrong with that?
Yell0w
Profile Joined April 2014
120 Posts
May 07 2014 20:49 GMT
#1068
@Eden

The person I think is the most scummy voted against both of those people today, that's you by the way, so yes I'm going to vote for a third party because I don't want to lynch a town like you do. There was sqrt, there was me, everyone seems to think tamburini is town, that's three town targeted by you, it's starting to be a pattern. And I think I've been vocal about you being scummy, so you say I'm mafia, sqrt and epishade are others who thought you were suspicious and you said they were both scummy, that's another pattern. But yes you found yourself in a very good situation where you didn't have to kill people who thought you were scummy, because most people thought you were town.
Yell0w
Profile Joined April 2014
120 Posts
May 07 2014 21:06 GMT
#1073
Well, okay, since clearly nobody is going to vote with me on Eden, I'd be more willing to lynch dfs than meat or dravernor, so I'm gonna vote for him, and maybe since others think he's suspicious we can get the ball rolling.


##Unvote
##Vote: dfs


@Eden

I answered your question, you're mafia, you want to kill town, you lead a vote against dravernor, therefore she's town, how do you not understand that is beyond me.
Yell0w
Profile Joined April 2014
120 Posts
May 07 2014 21:13 GMT
#1079
On May 08 2014 06:09 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2014 06:06 Yell0w wrote:
Well, okay, since clearly nobody is going to vote with me on Eden, I'd be more willing to lynch dfs than meat or dravernor, so I'm gonna vote for him, and maybe since others think he's suspicious we can get the ball rolling.


##Unvote
##Vote: dfs


@Eden

I answered your question, you're mafia, you want to kill town, you lead a vote against dravernor, therefore she's town, how do you not understand that is beyond me.

If any of you leave dravernor to vote with this clear scum I will end you. Don't fall for this. Yell0w/ahswtini/dravernor scumteam for sure.


Well thanks for making it clear that you and dfs are both mafia.
Yell0w
Profile Joined April 2014
120 Posts
May 07 2014 21:26 GMT
#1085
On May 08 2014 06:16 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2014 06:13 Yell0w wrote:
On May 08 2014 06:09 Eden1892 wrote:
On May 08 2014 06:06 Yell0w wrote:
Well, okay, since clearly nobody is going to vote with me on Eden, I'd be more willing to lynch dfs than meat or dravernor, so I'm gonna vote for him, and maybe since others think he's suspicious we can get the ball rolling.


##Unvote
##Vote: dfs


@Eden

I answered your question, you're mafia, you want to kill town, you lead a vote against dravernor, therefore she's town, how do you not understand that is beyond me.

If any of you leave dravernor to vote with this clear scum I will end you. Don't fall for this. Yell0w/ahswtini/dravernor scumteam for sure.


Well thanks for making it clear that you and dfs are both mafia.

Says the guy trying to do everything in his power to deflect from dravernor! Please. You didn't even make a case for dfs! You're just sheeping people's prior suspicions of him. Fuck that, you're mafia, dfs is town, dravernor's mafia, this is obvious and I swear to god if we don't lynch dravernor today heads are gonna roll.


That doesn't make sense, how is me defending someone I think isn't mafia indicative that I'm mafia? You didn't say anything against me except that I think you're scum and that I'm defending dravernor, that is your case against me. And if I was doing everything I could do protect dravernor, why didn't I just vote meat? And now you defend dfs hardcore, but I'm the mafia for defending somebody. I have no idea how people can't see you're mafia, what you're saying is making no sense, yet you're sticking with it.
Yell0w
Profile Joined April 2014
120 Posts
May 07 2014 21:47 GMT
#1104
Today was basically just: Let's lynch someone who has been inactive and hope we hit the right person!

We should probably just do that day 1 next game since clearly we're all awful at reading people, right?
Yell0w
Profile Joined April 2014
120 Posts
May 07 2014 21:54 GMT
#1112
@Bunnies

Yeah that's what I'm saying, she was inactive so we're lynching her, it's the same reason meat was considered because he was inactive early in the game and dfs barely posted, that's why people are voting against them.

And clearly you are bad at reading people since you made 4 votes, 3 of them were town and one is yet to be determined.

Though you might be mafia and you're actually really good at reading people, if so I apologize.
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