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On April 13 2014 07:33 strongandbig wrote:
Austin what about ve? He's pretty high on my scum list atm what is your opinion. Notes I just wrote say:
VE doing nothing but...I don't think scum VE announces that he disobeyed expectations and did not check Oats. Did he claim another check? Look into that. SCUM PROBABLY DON'T GO "LOL I MISSED A CHECK" AND "LOL I DIDN'T CHECK OATS AND DIDN'T KNOW I SHOUD HAVE LOL"
VE has been doing little, but ... unlikely he just lies as scum, unlikely that he claims THIS role as scum (I think, "finds out when people dead + role/alignment cop + takes ability from one person and gives it to another" is ... not a fake claim and not whatever THIS IS DUMB I JUST DON'T LIKE VE FOR MAFIA)
he's possible, but I think less likely than others? Assorted random thoughts - I PMed him and got one reply, didn't really engage beyond that. He said he checked Djo N1 under the assumption that VA would die D2/get pushed, and then he'd know the alignments of everyone in his QT. That's why I asked him a question about why check Palmar over VA, he'd basically indicated that priority #1 for him was to figure out his QT's alignments. He responded decently fast to my quesiton and seemed to either know what I was asking or have a legit reason, which is fine, but scum VE might not have remembered a single PM from D2 about why he checked VA, so that's minor minor town points.
Overall, for VE, it MOSTLY comes down to the fact that he's been mislynched a couple times recently, for being un-VE-like or doing less than people think VE should do. I don't think some kind of power swap + rolecop is a bad scum ability, could very well be scum, could very well be town.
If we don't have a lot of DTs townside, makes it SLIGHTLY more likely he's town, given that I would EXPECT town to have a DT or two in a big themed game like this?
Overall, he got cut on my last pare down or second to last pare down, mainly because of those two first paragraphs. I dunno about scum VE going "YOU TOLD ME TO CHECK OATS AND I DIDN'T" when he could claim he was interfered with, oats came back town but has NASTY POWERS, or something like that. All in all, it's not my strongest townread, but there's just random crap there that make me think he's more likely to be town than a decently large list of other folks.
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On April 13 2014 07:34 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2014 07:31 austinmcc wrote:On April 13 2014 07:29 strongandbig wrote:
How could blazinghand die? He was removed from the game and untargetable by anything
And robick protect me palmar or maybe hopeless imo The post made it sound like something UNDID the resurrection. Either via scum now having that item, or someone having an item reversal power (possible cough cough towards amiko), or someone having another timeline affecting/power use nullifying ability. The way bh's power was phrased I'm pretty sure even his past actions should be untargetable, but obviously my interpretation of his power was off. I don't believe BH was targeted.
To me, I think the item that was used to rez BH, or the power that was used to raise BH, was targeted. Foolishness is NOT entering the game again, it's as if BH was never rezzed and never did anything. That FEELS to me more like a targeting of the item or the power, undoing it or reversing it, than it does something directed at BH himself (it's not BH's revival of Foolishness that was blocked, it's BH existing again that was blocked somehow)
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1. If he's town how do scum not kill the claimed dt? I sincerely doubt VE has been protected.
2. I don't agree that he wouldn't have openly said he didn't check oatsmaster, if there's a leak he could have known that I would make his n2 check unstoppable so the only way out of checking oats was to claim "oops I forgot"
3. We did already have at least one dead town cop
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Palmar read your store plz I need input
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And we seriously need more out of va and paper scraps, I have them both as ???
Like at least the 3p are invested
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SnB, which of the 3p's are not 3p (from your estimation)
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Oh like here's something, I don't think we ever found out what "item" paper scraps was supposed to have day1 or if the bullshit post restriction was accepted as actual bullshit
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On April 13 2014 08:01 strongandbig wrote:
Oh like here's something, I don't think we ever found out what "item" paper scraps was supposed to have day1 or if the bullshit post restriction was accepted as actual bullshit
He admitted to me it was BS -- not sure if it was a cover up, after the fact, or whether he was being truthful. If Amiko is telling the truth, Scraps is likely to have fabricated the whole thing.
Curious to know if he told anyone something different.
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It's possible scum have a mirroring power to what BH's does, sets chaos to 0 and retcons an ability used previously to not occur.
If that's the case they probably used it on Wave's use of the mighty F.O.A.L. - he can't just use it again since he's dead.
If they used in on me inventing, I'd get muh parts back and would be ablt to invent something else. So that prolly didn't happen, at least I haven't heard anything.
On April 13 2014 07:24 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2014 06:38 austinmcc wrote:
(maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan, wanted to see hopeless's answer) Something is wrong with the BH situation and there is a chance that we need dandel to resolve it
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Anything more than the above?
Cuz I really have no idea what happened there.
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On April 13 2014 08:01 IAmRobik wrote:
SnB, which of the 3p's are not 3p (from your estimation)
Oats for sure
I kind of believe jat just because of the way he claimed, it felt genuine
DI is the bizzarre case of someone claiming 3p because too many people think he's town rather than scum, so I doubt he is scum
Amiko is a weird claim because the powers have nothing to do with the wincon, but he could have some weird button or item related alternate win condition - that seems as likely to me as him being scum
And that's all of the claimed 3p right? I'm on my phone so no spreadsheet
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you can chalk up my inactivity to me basically rolling VT, sorry but I didn't plan on playing a weird game like this just to be a VT. I found a few scum and now I'm just bored while we finish out this game. Thats the plain and simple of it. If something interesting happens and my input is needed then fine.
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On April 13 2014 08:03 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2014 08:01 strongandbig wrote:
Oh like here's something, I don't think we ever found out what "item" paper scraps was supposed to have day1 or if the bullshit post restriction was accepted as actual bullshit He admitted to me it was BS -- not sure if it was a cover up, after the fact, or whether he was being truthful. If Amiko is telling the truth, Scraps is likely to have fabricated the whole thing. Curious to know if he told anyone something different.
Did he tell you anything about his actual role? Afaik no one has any information about it and I don't like that
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On April 13 2014 08:10 VayneAuthority wrote:
you can chalk up my inactivity to me basically rolling VT, sorry but I didn't plan on playing a weird game like this just to be a VT. I found a few scum and now I'm just bored while we finish out this game. Thats the plain and simple of it. If something interesting happens and my input is needed then fine.
Don't forget GM has roles sometimes where people become interesting after some event (like Bruce Wayne, who became batman after his parents died)
Anyways, this is the first vt claim, right? So I like it.
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On April 13 2014 08:03 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2014 08:01 strongandbig wrote:
Oh like here's something, I don't think we ever found out what "item" paper scraps was supposed to have day1 or if the bullshit post restriction was accepted as actual bullshit He admitted to me it was BS -- not sure if it was a cover up, after the fact, or whether he was being truthful. If Amiko is telling the truth, Scraps is likely to have fabricated the whole thing. Curious to know if he told anyone something different.
Also robick - who do you think is more likely scum between killing and ve?
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On April 13 2014 08:16 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2014 08:10 VayneAuthority wrote:
you can chalk up my inactivity to me basically rolling VT, sorry but I didn't plan on playing a weird game like this just to be a VT. I found a few scum and now I'm just bored while we finish out this game. Thats the plain and simple of it. If something interesting happens and my input is needed then fine. Don't forget GM has roles sometimes where people become interesting after some event (like Bruce Wayne, who became batman after his parents died) Anyways, this is the first vt claim, right? So I like it.
He claimed he is "basically a VT" because his role is so anti town. That's at least how I understand it.
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On April 13 2014 08:00 strongandbig wrote:
And we seriously need more out of va and paper scraps, I have them both as ???
Like at least the 3p are invested
The 3P being invested isn't a positive sign IMO.
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@Austin Can you give me a TLDR why you think I'm scum so I can call you stupid?
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On April 13 2014 08:10 VayneAuthority wrote:
you can chalk up my inactivity to me basically rolling VT, sorry but I didn't plan on playing a weird game like this just to be a VT. I found a few scum and now I'm just bored while we finish out this game. Thats the plain and simple of it. If something interesting happens and my input is needed then fine.
I thought you said you have an anti-town role? What changed?
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