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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
April 08 2014 10:22 GMT
#4121
On April 08 2014 19:19 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 19:18 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 08 2014 19:17 geript wrote:
As for LSB, he's attacked Town Hero Keirathi who I wanted to sheep so he can die. More importantly though, he's done fuck all this game as far as I can tell 2 pages. He's also attacked yamato. I remember when I was following along that yamato looked pretty town pretty early on; like he's pretty obvious mafia so that read seems really out of place to me. In reading his push against Paper, idk, like I don't have any problem with a Keir having a soft townread for someone being carefree/happy. Like that's a pretty normal early soft townread imo so pushing Keir and scraps at the same time especially when his push on scraps is completely illogical is really bad. I actually don't like him pushing against Hopeless later on either. Like Keir has phenominal meta reads and he had a strong meta read on Hopeless (mental reminder filter Keir and Hopeless to doublecheck validity). Like I'd absolutely love to lynch this guy because there are good reasons to but:
On April 05 2014 01:45 LSB wrote:
Is holyflare always this paranoid?

I'm not ride or die on this post, but I think it's a good reason to suspect LSB for being town here despite all of the other options. It's both recognizing a different sort of play and trying to read into it. That's a "putting pieces together post" so I lump him in the town pile.

What the fuck?

Nope dude. I think he's town. I think there's good reasons for not thinking he's town but I think he's town. Get over it.

lol it's not even that.
You go on a huge rant talking about how scummy he is and how you don't like this and this and this, and then 5 words make you completely drop all of that?
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
April 08 2014 10:23 GMT
#4122
On April 08 2014 19:19 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 19:18 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 08 2014 19:17 geript wrote:
As for LSB, he's attacked Town Hero Keirathi who I wanted to sheep so he can die. More importantly though, he's done fuck all this game as far as I can tell 2 pages. He's also attacked yamato. I remember when I was following along that yamato looked pretty town pretty early on; like he's pretty obvious mafia so that read seems really out of place to me. In reading his push against Paper, idk, like I don't have any problem with a Keir having a soft townread for someone being carefree/happy. Like that's a pretty normal early soft townread imo so pushing Keir and scraps at the same time especially when his push on scraps is completely illogical is really bad. I actually don't like him pushing against Hopeless later on either. Like Keir has phenominal meta reads and he had a strong meta read on Hopeless (mental reminder filter Keir and Hopeless to doublecheck validity). Like I'd absolutely love to lynch this guy because there are good reasons to but:
On April 05 2014 01:45 LSB wrote:
Is holyflare always this paranoid?

I'm not ride or die on this post, but I think it's a good reason to suspect LSB for being town here despite all of the other options. It's both recognizing a different sort of play and trying to read into it. That's a "putting pieces together post" so I lump him in the town pile.

What the fuck?

Nope dude. I think he's town. I think there's good reasons for not thinking he's town but I think he's town. Get over it.

I can see that you have made a conscious decision to play without caring, and I think you're doing it to cover up the fact that you're scum.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
April 08 2014 10:41 GMT
#4123
jat is the lynch tomorrow, he is clearly SK and if you actually believe that he only had a one-shot KP or whatever you should probably commit sudoku.

Plus he tried to kill towno hero sandrobo an offense whose only suitable punishment is death.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
April 08 2014 10:44 GMT
#4124
Also if there is an item in the game that can cause insanity like sandrobo said, and somebody has that, he would know that by his role claim

so either he's lying about the role claim or he's lying about the people he has to kill.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
April 08 2014 10:58 GMT
#4125
I don't know how true this is overall, but Robert tends to defend his scum partners from what I've seen. But his push on IamP is really terrible. I really hate his meta for VE because what I've seen from VE on video is that he's more quiet and 'nit picky' as scum and more interjectory as town. It's kinda hard to read him because he's somehow more BM then me. His push on HF is really illogical too. Like he made a bad post that got called out. Who cares. I'd also point out he's called Palmer town who is definitely not this game so there's that.
On April 03 2014 23:14 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 23:07 syllogism wrote:
On April 03 2014 22:59 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 03 2014 22:30 Palmar wrote:
On April 03 2014 22:19 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 03 2014 22:17 Palmar wrote:
On April 03 2014 22:14 IAmRobik wrote:
I hate that Palmar is town this game.


I learned new term in awful foreign land. ROBIK IS TMI-ING PRETTY HARD NOW.

Although I can't verify, not sure i'm town.

TMI = too much info?

Did I TMI when I called you out as mafia instantly? You still give me 0 fucking credit. Fucking pathetic

Initially, you think I'm weak. So you call me mafia.

Then you realize, I am strong. You must try to win my favor.

I am sorry Robik, I don't believe in violence. But we must investigate. Investigation shall be performed using a rope and a tree. I hope this does not come between us.

I mean. If you are town then you're trying to lynch another town, so that's playing against your win-con. I know mine says something along the lines of I win with town.

I don't need to win anyone's favor. I'm not here to make friends. I'm not here to make anyone feel good about themselves. I'm here because I like competition and because I want to win. I am town, thus I'm trying to solve the game. I don't think you're a strong player. I was told by Mattchew that you're good, but I didn't see any good town play from you in Foundations and I was able to determine that you were mafia based off of one measly sentence in Heavyweight Champ.

You are clearly smart so you know mafia is a game of incomplete information and thus townie attempting to lynch a townie is unavoidable. So why are you saying something like this? It looks off to me; something a carleess mafia is more likely to say than a smart townie.

As for the rest, the best way to win as either alignment is by making friends, even if just for the duration of the game.

That's all fine and dandy from your POV, but like -- I don't play that way. So you won't find me sucking up to people and trying to befriend them during the game. I'm gonna be aggressive. I'm gonna take weird fucking stances that no one is going to understand and I'm going to tell you what I'm thinking when I'm thinking it.

As for the first part of what you're saying -- I know mislynches happen, but fuck that. I never wanna mislynch and I never wanna be mislynched.

This post and interaction feels odd but I hate associative tells.
Don't like his townread on Hopeless at all. I saw Banks' case on Robert; from what I remember of NMM he threw a bunch of townreads out as scum early. I think there's a 'transmission error ' in the change between video/forum.
On April 05 2014 06:37 IAmRobik wrote:
OK. I'm about to catch up. The only thing I want everyone to note is that foolishness is complaining a lot about the spam, but like 95% of the words that he posts are just filler. He BARELY gives opinions on anything -- the only real stances that I can remember him taking were 1) iamp being mafia and 2) he read someone town earlier, but I forget who it was.

Please do not be fooled by the long "newspaper" posts that he's making. THEY HAVE VERY VERY LITTLE SUBSTANCE TO THEM!

This post seems really out of place to me. Like none of Roberts reads at this point make any sense at all, but this is a pretty valid point. That's a really weird switch IMO. He hated one of the LSB posts I hated; sadly he doesn't give a reason for it. Likes a completely non-alignment indicative post by JAT. Meh. I don't hate his read change on Joey; I kinda agree that's the meta I've seen of scum trolly Joey but not much experience with seeing that. I'm not seeing any really town indicative thing. I'd just policy lynch him for shitting up the thread and BM and move on. Other than that he's just a PoE lynch; better to lynch someone else first.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
April 08 2014 11:00 GMT
#4126
Kk I'll change my action. Maybe it will help. I'm trusting HF right now. I was hoping to get a better read on Sandroba based on who he suggested. Not really quite feeling his cop out.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
April 08 2014 11:08 GMT
#4127
On April 08 2014 19:23 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 19:19 geript wrote:
On April 08 2014 19:18 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 08 2014 19:17 geript wrote:
As for LSB, he's attacked Town Hero Keirathi who I wanted to sheep so he can die. More importantly though, he's done fuck all this game as far as I can tell 2 pages. He's also attacked yamato. I remember when I was following along that yamato looked pretty town pretty early on; like he's pretty obvious mafia so that read seems really out of place to me. In reading his push against Paper, idk, like I don't have any problem with a Keir having a soft townread for someone being carefree/happy. Like that's a pretty normal early soft townread imo so pushing Keir and scraps at the same time especially when his push on scraps is completely illogical is really bad. I actually don't like him pushing against Hopeless later on either. Like Keir has phenominal meta reads and he had a strong meta read on Hopeless (mental reminder filter Keir and Hopeless to doublecheck validity). Like I'd absolutely love to lynch this guy because there are good reasons to but:
On April 05 2014 01:45 LSB wrote:
Is holyflare always this paranoid?

I'm not ride or die on this post, but I think it's a good reason to suspect LSB for being town here despite all of the other options. It's both recognizing a different sort of play and trying to read into it. That's a "putting pieces together post" so I lump him in the town pile.

What the fuck?

Nope dude. I think he's town. I think there's good reasons for not thinking he's town but I think he's town. Get over it.

I can see that you have made a conscious decision to play without caring, and I think you're doing it to cover up the fact that you're scum.

Think what you want. I don't care. I'm coming in effectively 200 pages behind and who knows how many pms short. I have a general idea of what's happened previously but that's it. Like I'm a fucking phenominal player but I'm not a magic worker. Plus it's way easier to get a read on good players based on what they suggest and push while giving me a leg up to see who I should spend my limited time on. If you don't like it then throw me in the lynch pile for Djo not doing anything worthwhile. But you don't get to call me scum without evaluating my reads this game. Like you can't expect me to be usual asshole geript when I'm already super behind and haven't caught up.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
April 08 2014 11:10 GMT
#4128
On April 08 2014 19:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
Hey geript, why do you think scum ve claims a green check on you?

Don't know. Don't care. Not going to waste time on wifom.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
April 08 2014 11:19 GMT
#4129
On April 08 2014 20:08 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 19:23 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 08 2014 19:19 geript wrote:
On April 08 2014 19:18 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 08 2014 19:17 geript wrote:
As for LSB, he's attacked Town Hero Keirathi who I wanted to sheep so he can die. More importantly though, he's done fuck all this game as far as I can tell 2 pages. He's also attacked yamato. I remember when I was following along that yamato looked pretty town pretty early on; like he's pretty obvious mafia so that read seems really out of place to me. In reading his push against Paper, idk, like I don't have any problem with a Keir having a soft townread for someone being carefree/happy. Like that's a pretty normal early soft townread imo so pushing Keir and scraps at the same time especially when his push on scraps is completely illogical is really bad. I actually don't like him pushing against Hopeless later on either. Like Keir has phenominal meta reads and he had a strong meta read on Hopeless (mental reminder filter Keir and Hopeless to doublecheck validity). Like I'd absolutely love to lynch this guy because there are good reasons to but:
On April 05 2014 01:45 LSB wrote:
Is holyflare always this paranoid?

I'm not ride or die on this post, but I think it's a good reason to suspect LSB for being town here despite all of the other options. It's both recognizing a different sort of play and trying to read into it. That's a "putting pieces together post" so I lump him in the town pile.

What the fuck?

Nope dude. I think he's town. I think there's good reasons for not thinking he's town but I think he's town. Get over it.

I can see that you have made a conscious decision to play without caring, and I think you're doing it to cover up the fact that you're scum.

Think what you want. I don't care. I'm coming in effectively 200 pages behind and who knows how many pms short. I have a general idea of what's happened previously but that's it. Like I'm a fucking phenominal player but I'm not a magic worker. Plus it's way easier to get a read on good players based on what they suggest and push while giving me a leg up to see who I should spend my limited time on. If you don't like it then throw me in the lynch pile for Djo not doing anything worthwhile. But you don't get to call me scum without evaluating my reads this game. Like you can't expect me to be usual asshole geript when I'm already super behind and haven't caught up.

Ok , what if I call you scum based on this post you conveniently ignored?
On April 08 2014 19:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 19:19 geript wrote:
On April 08 2014 19:18 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 08 2014 19:17 geript wrote:
As for LSB, he's attacked Town Hero Keirathi who I wanted to sheep so he can die. More importantly though, he's done fuck all this game as far as I can tell 2 pages. He's also attacked yamato. I remember when I was following along that yamato looked pretty town pretty early on; like he's pretty obvious mafia so that read seems really out of place to me. In reading his push against Paper, idk, like I don't have any problem with a Keir having a soft townread for someone being carefree/happy. Like that's a pretty normal early soft townread imo so pushing Keir and scraps at the same time especially when his push on scraps is completely illogical is really bad. I actually don't like him pushing against Hopeless later on either. Like Keir has phenominal meta reads and he had a strong meta read on Hopeless (mental reminder filter Keir and Hopeless to doublecheck validity). Like I'd absolutely love to lynch this guy because there are good reasons to but:
On April 05 2014 01:45 LSB wrote:
Is holyflare always this paranoid?

I'm not ride or die on this post, but I think it's a good reason to suspect LSB for being town here despite all of the other options. It's both recognizing a different sort of play and trying to read into it. That's a "putting pieces together post" so I lump him in the town pile.

What the fuck?

Nope dude. I think he's town. I think there's good reasons for not thinking he's town but I think he's town. Get over it.

lol it's not even that.
You go on a huge rant talking about how scummy he is and how you don't like this and this and this, and then 5 words make you completely drop all of that?

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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
April 08 2014 11:21 GMT
#4130
Ok. I'm just going to sheep Keir on Hopeless and say town. Like I don't get why people are forgetting that.

Palmer's in the scum pile because I rolled town.

VE's role claim makes sense from my perspective. He could be lying here and be a role cop or something but I kinda doubt it. If he's scum I accept his pocket for now. And with that I can go to sleep 2 hours late.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
April 08 2014 11:23 GMT
#4131
On April 08 2014 20:10 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 19:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
Hey geript, why do you think scum ve claims a green check on you?

Don't know. Don't care. Not going to waste time on wifom.

its not wifom though. Like wtf, you dont care to figure out someone who is linked with you? Feels a fucking lot like gf knowing that someone is town and therefore isnt lying.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
April 08 2014 11:23 GMT
#4132
I am disgusted if this is your town play geript. Wow.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
April 08 2014 11:26 GMT
#4133
On April 08 2014 20:21 geript wrote:

VE's role claim makes sense from my perspective. He could be lying here and be a role cop or something but I kinda doubt it. If he's scum I accept his pocket for now. And with that I can go to sleep 2 hours late.

Completely weird explanation that does not make sense at all. Why would you think like that????
Focusing on all the wrong things.
No gg, No skill.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
April 08 2014 11:27 GMT
#4134
On April 08 2014 20:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 20:08 geript wrote:
On April 08 2014 19:23 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 08 2014 19:19 geript wrote:
On April 08 2014 19:18 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 08 2014 19:17 geript wrote:
As for LSB, he's attacked Town Hero Keirathi who I wanted to sheep so he can die. More importantly though, he's done fuck all this game as far as I can tell 2 pages. He's also attacked yamato. I remember when I was following along that yamato looked pretty town pretty early on; like he's pretty obvious mafia so that read seems really out of place to me. In reading his push against Paper, idk, like I don't have any problem with a Keir having a soft townread for someone being carefree/happy. Like that's a pretty normal early soft townread imo so pushing Keir and scraps at the same time especially when his push on scraps is completely illogical is really bad. I actually don't like him pushing against Hopeless later on either. Like Keir has phenominal meta reads and he had a strong meta read on Hopeless (mental reminder filter Keir and Hopeless to doublecheck validity). Like I'd absolutely love to lynch this guy because there are good reasons to but:
On April 05 2014 01:45 LSB wrote:
Is holyflare always this paranoid?

I'm not ride or die on this post, but I think it's a good reason to suspect LSB for being town here despite all of the other options. It's both recognizing a different sort of play and trying to read into it. That's a "putting pieces together post" so I lump him in the town pile.

What the fuck?

Nope dude. I think he's town. I think there's good reasons for not thinking he's town but I think he's town. Get over it.

I can see that you have made a conscious decision to play without caring, and I think you're doing it to cover up the fact that you're scum.

Think what you want. I don't care. I'm coming in effectively 200 pages behind and who knows how many pms short. I have a general idea of what's happened previously but that's it. Like I'm a fucking phenominal player but I'm not a magic worker. Plus it's way easier to get a read on good players based on what they suggest and push while giving me a leg up to see who I should spend my limited time on. If you don't like it then throw me in the lynch pile for Djo not doing anything worthwhile. But you don't get to call me scum without evaluating my reads this game. Like you can't expect me to be usual asshole geript when I'm already super behind and haven't caught up.

Ok , what if I call you scum based on this post you conveniently ignored?
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 19:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 08 2014 19:19 geript wrote:
On April 08 2014 19:18 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 08 2014 19:17 geript wrote:
As for LSB, he's attacked Town Hero Keirathi who I wanted to sheep so he can die. More importantly though, he's done fuck all this game as far as I can tell 2 pages. He's also attacked yamato. I remember when I was following along that yamato looked pretty town pretty early on; like he's pretty obvious mafia so that read seems really out of place to me. In reading his push against Paper, idk, like I don't have any problem with a Keir having a soft townread for someone being carefree/happy. Like that's a pretty normal early soft townread imo so pushing Keir and scraps at the same time especially when his push on scraps is completely illogical is really bad. I actually don't like him pushing against Hopeless later on either. Like Keir has phenominal meta reads and he had a strong meta read on Hopeless (mental reminder filter Keir and Hopeless to doublecheck validity). Like I'd absolutely love to lynch this guy because there are good reasons to but:
On April 05 2014 01:45 LSB wrote:
Is holyflare always this paranoid?

I'm not ride or die on this post, but I think it's a good reason to suspect LSB for being town here despite all of the other options. It's both recognizing a different sort of play and trying to read into it. That's a "putting pieces together post" so I lump him in the town pile.

What the fuck?

Nope dude. I think he's town. I think there's good reasons for not thinking he's town but I think he's town. Get over it.

lol it's not even that.
You go on a huge rant talking about how scummy he is and how you don't like this and this and this, and then 5 words make you completely drop all of that?


I'd call you a Wave and a worse player than me. People do scummy shit; generally people who do scummy things are town. But lots of times you can prevent Mislynches if you just look for reasons not to lynch someone too. Like LSB was super scummy in Handslaps too; I can accept that he's bad town. I just find the town evidence far more compelling than the not town evidence. It's that simple. Like people who are actively thinking about the game critically are almost always town. Like I haven't verified that HF was paranoid acting at that point but if it's true it shows thought which is towny.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
April 08 2014 11:29 GMT
#4135
On April 08 2014 20:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 20:10 geript wrote:
On April 08 2014 19:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
Hey geript, why do you think scum ve claims a green check on you?

Don't know. Don't care. Not going to waste time on wifom.

its not wifom though. Like wtf, you dont care to figure out someone who is linked with you? Feels a fucking lot like gf knowing that someone is town and therefore isnt lying.

Asking me if VE would fake a green check on me for cred is 100% wifom and useless. As my high school physics prof used to say,"Let's not go into iffen land."
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 08 2014 11:31 GMT
#4136
if you think hopeless is town you also think I'm town geript.

hurr durr.
Computer says mafia
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
April 08 2014 11:32 GMT
#4137
Its VE kinda confirming totally possible lynchbait if hes scum.
But no, you just think its as simple as ve claiming a green check on geript.
No gg, No skill.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
April 08 2014 11:32 GMT
#4138
On April 08 2014 20:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 20:21 geript wrote:

VE's role claim makes sense from my perspective. He could be lying here and be a role cop or something but I kinda doubt it. If he's scum I accept his pocket for now. And with that I can go to sleep 2 hours late.

Completely weird explanation that does not make sense at all. Why would you think like that????
Focusing on all the wrong things.

Knowing my role, what it does and my role name I find that VE's role claim is believable. Doesn't make him town or scum. Like if VE is scum then other people are going to have to catch him. The only thing that makes me think he might be scum right now is that Marv is dead and those two read each other really well.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 08 2014 11:33 GMT
#4139
Tick tock Geript.

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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
April 08 2014 11:35 GMT
#4140
On April 08 2014 20:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
Its VE kinda confirming totally possible lynchbait if hes scum.
But no, you just think its as simple as ve claiming a green check on geript.

No. I'm just saying that the role that he has claimed is a believable role claim to me. I really don't care what you think. If I had a gun I'd shoot you before HF(bomb might not be real), Amiko (claimed 3P), JAT (apparently also claimed 3PM) or anyone else.
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