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IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
April 05 2014 21:56 GMT
#3041
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE TOPDECKING LEGAL IN HS
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
April 05 2014 21:57 GMT
#3042
On April 06 2014 06:55 austinmcc wrote:
I, too, possess a penis.

Hey Robik, would you care to chat, except that if either of us wants to use the word "fuck", we have to replacing it with the word "Robitussin"? Specifically, I'm interested in the HF side of this:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2014 04:14 IAmRobik wrote:
One of syllo/HF might be a good shot and then if the one flips maf, we should clear the other
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2014 04:17 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 06 2014 04:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 06 2014 04:14 IAmRobik wrote:
One of syllo/HF might be a good shot and then if the one flips maf, we should clear the other

Why are they mutually exclusive?

I might be mistaking HF/yamato. Shit. My attention is split between this, the flyers game and the phillies game. Sorry

Well HF has been scummy all game. The way he's playing this game looks nothing like Heavyweight Champ to me and I'd Robitussin lynch him in a heartbeat if he keeps up this shittastic style of Robitussin play.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 05 2014 21:58 GMT
#3043
Okay, already in just the first few pages of syllo's filter from CT, there is a glaring thing missing from him in this game. Syllo and sandro are super good friends, and discuss mafia games between each other all the time and have an uncanny knack for reading each other. In CT, syllo kept poking at sandro trying to get a read on him, and then posted this:

On November 24 2012 05:40 syllogism wrote:
I was going to wait until tomorrow so I could see who people are pushing today without me, to an extent, locking down discussion. I don't think it's particularly working though and kita can't wait (whether he is town remains to be seen, but I don't think it's worth the gamble).

I'm fairly certain that sandroba is mafia. He hasn't done anything useful whole game long and he definitely could have. Everything that I've said about him before is still applicable. Even if he has been busy, it was by choice. No one forced him to run for election and he could have at any time dropped out and supported me. If he was town, I think he would have as soon as he figured out that I'm town.

Moreover, his attitude when he came back is still wrong. Instead of attempting to convince me or even address me, he just addresses everyone generally. He claims that I have been paranoid about his alignment in merc mini and that 80+ player game, but that is false or an exaggeration. In the huge game I was, in fact, pushing him for mayor on day 1 (we were both town). In merc mini I was only slightly suspicious because his ability completely broke the game, but I never wanted to lynch him at any point; the only suspicions were voiced over PM.

If he was town, he would be attempting to convince me, not play down my ability to read him accurately. To those who believe sandroba is town, what do you think mafia did on day 1? Who is mafia? Did they really have no one who could have ran and won? Do you think it's kita or acro were the mafia candidates then?


The whole thing is pretty telling of their relationship, but the bolded in particular: why isn't syllo trying to convince sandro that he is town this game? Why does he seem to be avoiding sandro altogether?

Yea, I think syllo is probably scum.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
April 05 2014 22:05 GMT
#3044
On April 06 2014 06:58 Keirathi wrote:
Okay, already in just the first few pages of syllo's filter from CT, there is a glaring thing missing from him in this game. Syllo and sandro are super good friends, and discuss mafia games between each other all the time and have an uncanny knack for reading each other. In CT, syllo kept poking at sandro trying to get a read on him, and then posted this:

Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 05:40 syllogism wrote:
I was going to wait until tomorrow so I could see who people are pushing today without me, to an extent, locking down discussion. I don't think it's particularly working though and kita can't wait (whether he is town remains to be seen, but I don't think it's worth the gamble).

I'm fairly certain that sandroba is mafia. He hasn't done anything useful whole game long and he definitely could have. Everything that I've said about him before is still applicable. Even if he has been busy, it was by choice. No one forced him to run for election and he could have at any time dropped out and supported me. If he was town, I think he would have as soon as he figured out that I'm town.

Moreover, his attitude when he came back is still wrong. Instead of attempting to convince me or even address me, he just addresses everyone generally. He claims that I have been paranoid about his alignment in merc mini and that 80+ player game, but that is false or an exaggeration. In the huge game I was, in fact, pushing him for mayor on day 1 (we were both town). In merc mini I was only slightly suspicious because his ability completely broke the game, but I never wanted to lynch him at any point; the only suspicions were voiced over PM.

If he was town, he would be attempting to convince me, not play down my ability to read him accurately. To those who believe sandroba is town, what do you think mafia did on day 1? Who is mafia? Did they really have no one who could have ran and won? Do you think it's kita or acro were the mafia candidates then?


The whole thing is pretty telling of their relationship, but the bolded in particular: why isn't syllo trying to convince sandro that he is town this game? Why does he seem to be avoiding sandro altogether?

Yea, I think syllo is probably scum.

Don't how how legit is this meta analysis. Can anyone else verify this?

I find it really odd to simply finger someone simply because he didn't really analyze one person out of the other 28. I'll look at his filter though
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 05 2014 22:05 GMT
#3045
Even that is too complicated.

The case on Syllo can be distilled to this:

Read his filter. Does that look to you like one of the best town players to ever play the game?
Writer@WriterYamato
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 05 2014 22:07 GMT
#3046
On April 06 2014 07:05 yamato77 wrote:
Even that is too complicated.

The case on Syllo can be distilled to this:

Read his filter. Does that look to you like one of the best town players to ever play the game?

Also a good point. Marv has said time and time again that if there's one town player on TL that he idolizes, it would be syllo. But this syllo? Yea, not so much.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 05 2014 22:08 GMT
#3047
On April 06 2014 06:57 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2014 06:55 austinmcc wrote:
I, too, possess a penis.

Hey Robik, would you care to chat, except that if either of us wants to use the word "fuck", we have to replacing it with the word "Robitussin"? Specifically, I'm interested in the HF side of this:
On April 06 2014 04:14 IAmRobik wrote:
One of syllo/HF might be a good shot and then if the one flips maf, we should clear the other
On April 06 2014 04:17 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 06 2014 04:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 06 2014 04:14 IAmRobik wrote:
One of syllo/HF might be a good shot and then if the one flips maf, we should clear the other

Why are they mutually exclusive?

I might be mistaking HF/yamato. Shit. My attention is split between this, the flyers game and the phillies game. Sorry

Well HF has been scummy all game. The way he's playing this game looks nothing like Heavyweight Champ to me and I'd Robitussin lynch him in a heartbeat if he keeps up this shittastic style of Robitussin play.
I didn't play in or read Heavyweight, is there a specific difference or just overall feel?

I've been worried about him on a different axis, which is mainly just that he's willing to look at past games from EVERYONE (Foolishness posts like this in Shadow, someone in Newbie somethingIV, VA has been explicit in past games that he doesn't like catching up on threads, etc.), but was scummy on DI for a while. And again, while it's super shitty, DI has a well-agree-upon very very very easy to read scum style, which is don't post don't do stuff get killed because you're lololololol obvious. It's out of place to be reading all these past games and commenting on them here, and then be scummy on DI.

His activity is high, I don't dislike most of his comments, but just that and a crappy comparison between his trolling and Palmar's trolling (in defense to marv's voting him for antagonizing you and trolling /w palmar early) are under my skin. I've played against scumHoly before and don't have anything particular in mind that he did that game, he generally looked town and got along until maybe tripping himself up on some crucial votes/reads late.

So what in particular is missing? Beyond that, I think that you should open yourself up to the truth about radiation. X-rays, cancer treatments, ...infrared thermometers? Radiation does a lot of helpful things for mankind. I think you're giving it a bad rap.
Fe fi fo fum.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
April 05 2014 22:09 GMT
#3048
You getting all this Koshi?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 05 2014 22:15 GMT
#3049
On April 06 2014 06:58 Keirathi wrote:
Okay, already in just the first few pages of syllo's filter from CT, there is a glaring thing missing from him in this game. Syllo and sandro are super good friends, and discuss mafia games between each other all the time and have an uncanny knack for reading each other. In CT, syllo kept poking at sandro trying to get a read on him, and then posted this:

Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 05:40 syllogism wrote:
I was going to wait until tomorrow so I could see who people are pushing today without me, to an extent, locking down discussion. I don't think it's particularly working though and kita can't wait (whether he is town remains to be seen, but I don't think it's worth the gamble).

I'm fairly certain that sandroba is mafia. He hasn't done anything useful whole game long and he definitely could have. Everything that I've said about him before is still applicable. Even if he has been busy, it was by choice. No one forced him to run for election and he could have at any time dropped out and supported me. If he was town, I think he would have as soon as he figured out that I'm town.

Moreover, his attitude when he came back is still wrong. Instead of attempting to convince me or even address me, he just addresses everyone generally. He claims that I have been paranoid about his alignment in merc mini and that 80+ player game, but that is false or an exaggeration. In the huge game I was, in fact, pushing him for mayor on day 1 (we were both town). In merc mini I was only slightly suspicious because his ability completely broke the game, but I never wanted to lynch him at any point; the only suspicions were voiced over PM.

If he was town, he would be attempting to convince me, not play down my ability to read him accurately. To those who believe sandroba is town, what do you think mafia did on day 1? Who is mafia? Did they really have no one who could have ran and won? Do you think it's kita or acro were the mafia candidates then?


The whole thing is pretty telling of their relationship, but the bolded in particular: why isn't syllo trying to convince sandro that he is town this game? Why does he seem to be avoiding sandro altogether?

Yea, I think syllo is probably scum.
If you want to get sent on magical meta missions, I'd be interested in whether scum-syllo does the same thing in games where they both play or not. I don't think it's a great use of time, but this feels like nothing.

If they talk all the time about every game and wuv to figure each other out in every game they play, then they both know that (it would appear they both know this), then I see it as less scummy and more just "wtf are they doing" to not be doing the thing they always do and know they always do. I'm dragging in sandro there with "they," but from what I know it's not like syllo always talks to sandro and reads sandro, while sandro sits around snapchatting his penis.
Fe fi fo fum.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 05 2014 22:15 GMT
#3050
On April 06 2014 07:05 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2014 06:58 Keirathi wrote:
Okay, already in just the first few pages of syllo's filter from CT, there is a glaring thing missing from him in this game. Syllo and sandro are super good friends, and discuss mafia games between each other all the time and have an uncanny knack for reading each other. In CT, syllo kept poking at sandro trying to get a read on him, and then posted this:

On November 24 2012 05:40 syllogism wrote:
I was going to wait until tomorrow so I could see who people are pushing today without me, to an extent, locking down discussion. I don't think it's particularly working though and kita can't wait (whether he is town remains to be seen, but I don't think it's worth the gamble).

I'm fairly certain that sandroba is mafia. He hasn't done anything useful whole game long and he definitely could have. Everything that I've said about him before is still applicable. Even if he has been busy, it was by choice. No one forced him to run for election and he could have at any time dropped out and supported me. If he was town, I think he would have as soon as he figured out that I'm town.

Moreover, his attitude when he came back is still wrong. Instead of attempting to convince me or even address me, he just addresses everyone generally. He claims that I have been paranoid about his alignment in merc mini and that 80+ player game, but that is false or an exaggeration. In the huge game I was, in fact, pushing him for mayor on day 1 (we were both town). In merc mini I was only slightly suspicious because his ability completely broke the game, but I never wanted to lynch him at any point; the only suspicions were voiced over PM.

If he was town, he would be attempting to convince me, not play down my ability to read him accurately. To those who believe sandroba is town, what do you think mafia did on day 1? Who is mafia? Did they really have no one who could have ran and won? Do you think it's kita or acro were the mafia candidates then?


The whole thing is pretty telling of their relationship, but the bolded in particular: why isn't syllo trying to convince sandro that he is town this game? Why does he seem to be avoiding sandro altogether?

Yea, I think syllo is probably scum.

Don't how how legit is this meta analysis. Can anyone else verify this?

I find it really odd to simply finger someone simply because he didn't really analyze one person out of the other 28. I'll look at his filter though

You're missing the point. It isn't that he hasn't analyzed sandro, it's that he hasn't *INTERACTED* with sandro. If syllo was town, then (as he mentions in the post I quoted) why wouldn't he be trying to convince the person best able to read him that he was town?


*Note: in case it wasn't clear - in CT, syllo was town and sandro was scum.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
April 05 2014 22:16 GMT
#3051
On April 06 2014 07:15 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2014 07:05 LSB wrote:
On April 06 2014 06:58 Keirathi wrote:
Okay, already in just the first few pages of syllo's filter from CT, there is a glaring thing missing from him in this game. Syllo and sandro are super good friends, and discuss mafia games between each other all the time and have an uncanny knack for reading each other. In CT, syllo kept poking at sandro trying to get a read on him, and then posted this:

On November 24 2012 05:40 syllogism wrote:
I was going to wait until tomorrow so I could see who people are pushing today without me, to an extent, locking down discussion. I don't think it's particularly working though and kita can't wait (whether he is town remains to be seen, but I don't think it's worth the gamble).

I'm fairly certain that sandroba is mafia. He hasn't done anything useful whole game long and he definitely could have. Everything that I've said about him before is still applicable. Even if he has been busy, it was by choice. No one forced him to run for election and he could have at any time dropped out and supported me. If he was town, I think he would have as soon as he figured out that I'm town.

Moreover, his attitude when he came back is still wrong. Instead of attempting to convince me or even address me, he just addresses everyone generally. He claims that I have been paranoid about his alignment in merc mini and that 80+ player game, but that is false or an exaggeration. In the huge game I was, in fact, pushing him for mayor on day 1 (we were both town). In merc mini I was only slightly suspicious because his ability completely broke the game, but I never wanted to lynch him at any point; the only suspicions were voiced over PM.

If he was town, he would be attempting to convince me, not play down my ability to read him accurately. To those who believe sandroba is town, what do you think mafia did on day 1? Who is mafia? Did they really have no one who could have ran and won? Do you think it's kita or acro were the mafia candidates then?


The whole thing is pretty telling of their relationship, but the bolded in particular: why isn't syllo trying to convince sandro that he is town this game? Why does he seem to be avoiding sandro altogether?

Yea, I think syllo is probably scum.

Don't how how legit is this meta analysis. Can anyone else verify this?

I find it really odd to simply finger someone simply because he didn't really analyze one person out of the other 28. I'll look at his filter though

You're missing the point. It isn't that he hasn't analyzed sandro, it's that he hasn't *INTERACTED* with sandro. If syllo was town, then (as he mentions in the post I quoted) why wouldn't he be trying to convince the person best able to read him that he was town?


*Note: in case it wasn't clear - in CT, syllo was town and sandro was scum.

Is syllo worried about not being considered town?
Devil's advocate: mebbe syllo doesn't feel that he needs sandro to know he's town?
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Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 05 2014 22:19 GMT
#3052
On April 06 2014 07:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2014 07:15 Keirathi wrote:
On April 06 2014 07:05 LSB wrote:
On April 06 2014 06:58 Keirathi wrote:
Okay, already in just the first few pages of syllo's filter from CT, there is a glaring thing missing from him in this game. Syllo and sandro are super good friends, and discuss mafia games between each other all the time and have an uncanny knack for reading each other. In CT, syllo kept poking at sandro trying to get a read on him, and then posted this:

On November 24 2012 05:40 syllogism wrote:
I was going to wait until tomorrow so I could see who people are pushing today without me, to an extent, locking down discussion. I don't think it's particularly working though and kita can't wait (whether he is town remains to be seen, but I don't think it's worth the gamble).

I'm fairly certain that sandroba is mafia. He hasn't done anything useful whole game long and he definitely could have. Everything that I've said about him before is still applicable. Even if he has been busy, it was by choice. No one forced him to run for election and he could have at any time dropped out and supported me. If he was town, I think he would have as soon as he figured out that I'm town.

Moreover, his attitude when he came back is still wrong. Instead of attempting to convince me or even address me, he just addresses everyone generally. He claims that I have been paranoid about his alignment in merc mini and that 80+ player game, but that is false or an exaggeration. In the huge game I was, in fact, pushing him for mayor on day 1 (we were both town). In merc mini I was only slightly suspicious because his ability completely broke the game, but I never wanted to lynch him at any point; the only suspicions were voiced over PM.

If he was town, he would be attempting to convince me, not play down my ability to read him accurately. To those who believe sandroba is town, what do you think mafia did on day 1? Who is mafia? Did they really have no one who could have ran and won? Do you think it's kita or acro were the mafia candidates then?


The whole thing is pretty telling of their relationship, but the bolded in particular: why isn't syllo trying to convince sandro that he is town this game? Why does he seem to be avoiding sandro altogether?

Yea, I think syllo is probably scum.

Don't how how legit is this meta analysis. Can anyone else verify this?

I find it really odd to simply finger someone simply because he didn't really analyze one person out of the other 28. I'll look at his filter though

You're missing the point. It isn't that he hasn't analyzed sandro, it's that he hasn't *INTERACTED* with sandro. If syllo was town, then (as he mentions in the post I quoted) why wouldn't he be trying to convince the person best able to read him that he was town?


*Note: in case it wasn't clear - in CT, syllo was town and sandro was scum.

Is syllo worried about not being considered town?
Devil's advocate: mebbe syllo doesn't feel that he needs sandro to know he's town?

It's possible. I'd rather see what sandro has to say about it, since it only stuck out to me because of what I've heard second hand (and from what syllo said in that post I quoted), but sandro would have more insight.

@sandro: do you think syllo is intentionally avoiding you to keep you from being able to have a solid read on him?
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
April 05 2014 22:25 GMT
#3053
On April 06 2014 07:08 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2014 06:57 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 06 2014 06:55 austinmcc wrote:
I, too, possess a penis.

Hey Robik, would you care to chat, except that if either of us wants to use the word "fuck", we have to replacing it with the word "Robitussin"? Specifically, I'm interested in the HF side of this:
On April 06 2014 04:14 IAmRobik wrote:
One of syllo/HF might be a good shot and then if the one flips maf, we should clear the other
On April 06 2014 04:17 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 06 2014 04:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 06 2014 04:14 IAmRobik wrote:
One of syllo/HF might be a good shot and then if the one flips maf, we should clear the other

Why are they mutually exclusive?

I might be mistaking HF/yamato. Shit. My attention is split between this, the flyers game and the phillies game. Sorry

Well HF has been scummy all game. The way he's playing this game looks nothing like Heavyweight Champ to me and I'd Robitussin lynch him in a heartbeat if he keeps up this shittastic style of Robitussin play.
I didn't play in or read Heavyweight, is there a specific difference or just overall feel?

I've been worried about him on a different axis, which is mainly just that he's willing to look at past games from EVERYONE (Foolishness posts like this in Shadow, someone in Newbie somethingIV, VA has been explicit in past games that he doesn't like catching up on threads, etc.), but was scummy on DI for a while. And again, while it's super shitty, DI has a well-agree-upon very very very easy to read scum style, which is don't post don't do stuff get killed because you're lololololol obvious. It's out of place to be reading all these past games and commenting on them here, and then be scummy on DI.

His activity is high, I don't dislike most of his comments, but just that and a crappy comparison between his trolling and Palmar's trolling (in defense to marv's voting him for antagonizing you and trolling /w palmar early) are under my skin. I've played against scumHoly before and don't have anything particular in mind that he did that game, he generally looked town and got along until maybe tripping himself up on some crucial votes/reads late.

So what in particular is missing? Beyond that, I think that you should open yourself up to the truth about radiation. X-rays, cancer treatments, ...infrared thermometers? Radiation does a lot of helpful things for mankind. I think you're giving it a bad rap.

Hey Austin, remember when I read you as town for going out of your way to make a case on someone you thought was town. You're not playing in the same manner this game. You're being more "inquisitive" instead of accusatory
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 05 2014 22:25 GMT
#3054
Robik hasn't read a single shitting thing about me or this game. He still called amiko scum even after he claimed 3p rofl. He hasn't said squat about my role. I've been picking out Foolishness posts after everyone who robik seemingly hates but trololol who cares right? Just spout terrible reads and some will be right!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 05 2014 22:26 GMT
#3055
Every one*
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 05 2014 22:26 GMT
#3056
Anyways since I keep reading over it again, this is the link to his filter if anyone else is curious:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/382922-chrono-trigger-mafia?user=syllogism&view=all

Ctrl+f for "sandro"

Notice how many times he pokes at sandro? He keeps asking him little questions and attempting to get a read on him, then is suspicious of sandro when sandro isn't doing the same thing.

I just can't shake the feeling that it doesn't jive with how he's played so far this game.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 05 2014 22:26 GMT
#3057
Anyway i picked a thing so this'll be cool.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
April 05 2014 22:28 GMT
#3058
On April 06 2014 07:25 Holyflare wrote:
Robik hasn't read a single shitting thing about me or this game. He still called amiko scum even after he claimed 3p rofl. He hasn't said squat about my role. I've been picking out Foolishness posts after everyone who robik seemingly hates but trololol who cares right? Just spout terrible reads and some will be right!

I HAVE been reading you this game. And I read your last game. I even said "I'd lynch the shit out of Holyfare this game, after we lynch all the mafia" in heavyweight. I'm not getting the same impression this game. You're totally off kilt.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 05 2014 22:28 GMT
#3059
On April 06 2014 07:09 WaveofShadow wrote:
You getting all this Koshi?

No. My shooting days are over.
I had a good night of sleep.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 05 2014 22:31 GMT
#3060
On April 06 2014 07:28 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2014 07:25 Holyflare wrote:
Robik hasn't read a single shitting thing about me or this game. He still called amiko scum even after he claimed 3p rofl. He hasn't said squat about my role. I've been picking out Foolishness posts after everyone who robik seemingly hates but trololol who cares right? Just spout terrible reads and some will be right!

I HAVE been reading you this game. And I read your last game. I even said "I'd lynch the shit out of Holyfare this game, after we lynch all the mafia" in heavyweight. I'm not getting the same impression this game. You're totally off kilt.


Well then you're just terrible. Get on some kind of good level.
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