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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 19 2014 00:16 GMT
#742
I have been summoneeddzzzz
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 19 2014 00:24 GMT
#755
On March 19 2014 09:17 Giggletummy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 09:16 Holyflare wrote:
I have been summoneeddzzzz
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 08:38 Giggletummy wrote:
HF, do you believe, right now, that DP is mafia?



yes
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 19 2014 00:35 GMT
#770
First and foremost, these 3 things do not go together. Palmar likes DP's post, thinks it's good logic (wut?) and then states later that it had nothing to do with rayns alignment, it was an observation from DP that he liked. He still sticks by this despite me saying that this is something rayn does as either alignment and DP SHOULD know that. It was super weird to point out from DP and even more weird for Palmar to like despite everything that had already happened. Not to mention, DP further calls that post a "joke" but Palmar still likes it despite him admitting it said nothing of value.

On March 19 2014 07:07 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 06:47 DarthPunk wrote:
Rayn was like Fuck yeah I am town. And then peace out. That is like the Anti-rayn. Perhaps it is the end of days. Perhaps Rayn is scum. Perhaps he is just busy. Find out next time in: 'Nothing much is happening Mafia'

I like this post.

On March 19 2014 07:09 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 07:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 19 2014 07:07 Palmar wrote:
On March 19 2014 06:47 DarthPunk wrote:
Rayn was like Fuck yeah I am town. And then peace out. That is like the Anti-rayn. Perhaps it is the end of days. Perhaps Rayn is scum. Perhaps he is just busy. Find out next time in: 'Nothing much is happening Mafia'

I like this post.

I don't.
Could you elaborate?

Solid logic.


On March 19 2014 07:13 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 07:07 Palmar wrote:
On March 19 2014 06:47 DarthPunk wrote:
Rayn was like Fuck yeah I am town. And then peace out. That is like the Anti-rayn. Perhaps it is the end of days. Perhaps Rayn is scum. Perhaps he is just busy. Find out next time in: 'Nothing much is happening Mafia'

I like this post.



You stated in previous games that you don't like to meta but somehow blindly accept this DP TERRIBLE meta of rayn, check LXIII, check really small mafia, check a lot of games. Lots of times rayn comes in, says he is town and then fucks off for multiple hours at a time. I've also (think?) I've seen him do it as scum. It is not alignment indicative, this kind of post screams of scum agenda of finding ways to push mislynched or spread doubt. I find it hard to believe you could like this post.


On March 19 2014 09:12 Palmar wrote:
Well I thought my post implied nothing about your alignment as the post I quoted from DP did not make any conclusion about your alignment. It was a post about DP, not you. I clarified a few posts down that I did not think it said anything about your alignment.


So it's a reasonable assumption that I wasn't trying to lynch you.

So Coag's lie is:

Palmar said he wasn't trying to lynch rayn
Rayn says palmar was trying to lynch rayn (where?)

?






that was the first weird thing, secondly, Palmar asked me what I implied by the sheeping thing on coag and wanted evidence:

DP:

On March 19 2014 07:36 DarthPunk wrote:
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On March 19 2014 07:34 Coagulation wrote:
its being implied its scummy cause u coulda went and got organized in a scum QT rayn.
but its actually null cause you coulda just went and took an hour long shit for all anyone here fucking knows.


This is a good post. If a ten headed hydra IMPROVES coags usual play I will fucking die.
LMAO.


Around this time DP was super duper adament about questioning people with "what do you think of holyflare's posting about me and hopeless", look what happened. NOTHING came to fruition with that. He liked coag's posts and then rayn pointed his case out about coag and DP dropped everything to do with me, everything he liked about coag's posts and then was like IM TOTALLY RIGHT OMG YES SO GUD.

On March 19 2014 08:28 DarthPunk wrote:
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On March 19 2014 08:27 Koshi wrote:
This isn't shit at all DP.
Are we back to not trying to read into what people are saying?

I can see Hydra being to fast on the posting there because they were very active in the start and just typing that reply to type it as town. Very possible.


Seems shit to me. And I feel vindicated. Don't go walking in my sunshine Koshi.


These sure positives so early on in the game scream of scum with too much knowledge! How can he feel vindicated before someone has even flipped? Not to mention me and coag were pushing DP early on and then he made this post:

On March 19 2014 08:20 DarthPunk wrote:
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On March 19 2014 08:16 Coagulation wrote:
On March 19 2014 08:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 19 2014 08:06 DarthPunk wrote:
Rayn you say that he provides no insight of his own. Would you not say that calling it null is not an insight? Like it is a irrelevant conclusion but it is still a conclusion.

The point is he just drops a comment that's non-alignment indicative towards every direction.
There is nothing, the post achieves nothing and is designed to achieve nothing.
If that's kush he is mafia.


nope Its coag and the fact that ITS AN HOUR INTO THE FUCKING GAME WHEN I MADE THE COMMENT DOESNT STRIKE YOU AS A LITTLE FUCKING EARLY TO BE MAKING INDICATIONS OF ALIGNMENTS.

No of course not cause your more interested in SELLING BULLSHIT than fucking reasonable reads.



That is kind of funny because you hopped onto my wagon as soon as the game started. But now it is you that is under pressure it is too early to read alignments?



If DP was town then this would be 100% truth because everything we wrote about DP would be wrong because it would be "too early to read alignments", yet, DP does not use the same equation when responding to coag. In fact it's "yes you are scum I am so right and so good, unlucky I got you this early haha"
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 19 2014 00:48 GMT
#782
On March 19 2014 09:43 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 09:35 Holyflare wrote:
First and foremost, these 3 things do not go together. Palmar likes DP's post, thinks it's good logic (wut?) and then states later that it had nothing to do with rayns alignment, it was an observation from DP that he liked. He still sticks by this despite me saying that this is something rayn does as either alignment and DP SHOULD know that. It was super weird to point out from DP and even more weird for Palmar to like despite everything that had already happened. Not to mention, DP further calls that post a "joke" but Palmar still likes it despite him admitting it said nothing of value.


You pointing out rayn does this as either alignment is completely irrelevant, I already said it wasn't alignment indicative which is essentially the same thing.

Remember that story I told earlier about refusing to lynch a townie based on a post 5 minutes into the game? The post's contents were "lolol". There was literally nothing else in the post. There is no connection between "Palmar likes a post" and "Palmar thinks this post provides something of value". If I thought DP had a good point, I'd have said so. All I said was that I liked the post, it looked like something written by a townie.

The "solid logic" is a tounge in cheek post.

why are you so serious HF?



It is nothing to do with rayn's alignment and everything to do with DP's. That is NOT the post a town DP makes. It just isn't. You think he has an 80% win rate by pointing out wifom every game that especially doesn't apply to rayn? No, he's inquisitive and actively shows that he doesn't know what is going on by being that inquisitive guy. So to point to this post in paticular after a lot had already gone on and to further say it is towny??? (what a joke) is really really odd from someone that prides themselves on finding town people day 1. You neglected to mention anything that had happened at the start when DP had been super wishy washy and entered by pointing to this post. It WAS weird.

Your story is irrelevant too, I do not care.

DP is being too know it all this game to be town. He is scum. Get on my wagon.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 19 2014 00:50 GMT
#785
On March 19 2014 09:49 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 09:45 Hopeless1der wrote:
On March 19 2014 09:43 Palmar wrote:
On March 19 2014 09:35 Holyflare wrote:
First and foremost, these 3 things do not go together. Palmar likes DP's post, thinks it's good logic (wut?) and then states later that it had nothing to do with rayns alignment, it was an observation from DP that he liked. He still sticks by this despite me saying that this is something rayn does as either alignment and DP SHOULD know that. It was super weird to point out from DP and even more weird for Palmar to like despite everything that had already happened. Not to mention, DP further calls that post a "joke" but Palmar still likes it despite him admitting it said nothing of value.


You pointing out rayn does this as either alignment is completely irrelevant, I already said it wasn't alignment indicative which is essentially the same thing.

Remember that story I told earlier about refusing to lynch a townie based on a post 5 minutes into the game? The post's contents were "lolol". There was literally nothing else in the post. There is no connection between "Palmar likes a post" and "Palmar thinks this post provides something of value". If I thought DP had a good point, I'd have said so. All I said was that I liked the post, it looked like something written by a townie.

The "solid logic" is a tounge in cheek post.

why are you so serious HF?


he's either buddying (scummy) or inferring things about your posts that aren't there (possibly scummy). whats your game history like with HF?


The only game I remember HF's play well in is survivor thingee, he was scum and basically lurked and wrote big statement posts.


because that's the only game I've played with you in
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 19 2014 00:54 GMT
#788
I do not care what you think about your own meta DP. You make posts that question things, you don't know what's going on and you try and solve things. Here? "what is hf doing with those posts" "oh i feel so vindicated on coag yay"
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 19 2014 00:55 GMT
#789
Also giggletummy, you agree with part of my post and then vote me? What are you doing?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 19 2014 00:56 GMT
#792
On March 19 2014 09:56 Coagulation wrote:
Its not even like im actually relying on the town seal to prove im town when im the most active and vocal person in thread on top of the seal then anyone whos gonna policy lynch over a seal is cherry picking.


Can you elaborate on your top voted people for me please?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 19 2014 00:58 GMT
#796
How is my case on hopeless crap? He called me scum based off of 1 game where I did the same thing despite him actively reading and referencing another game where I did the same thing and was town. He has also played a game with me where we were both scum and I posted coherently. What is there not to understand DP and why are you not reading into it anymore or asking people about it since this coag thing is over?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 19 2014 01:03 GMT
#800
On March 19 2014 10:02 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 09:58 Holyflare wrote:
How is my case on hopeless crap? He called me scum based off of 1 game where I did the same thing despite him actively reading and referencing another game where I did the same thing and was town. He has also played a game with me where we were both scum and I posted coherently. What is there not to understand DP and why are you not reading into it anymore or asking people about it since this coag thing is over?


People make bad meta cases all the time as both alignments. It does not make someone guaranteed scum. So why does making a bad meta case make someone scum HF?

If that was the case then you should be 100% scum. But you are not because people make bad meta cases all the time as either alignment.


i cannot believe you actually believe what you write because that is flat out fucking retarded. It's different if the meta case is based off of games you weren't in but HE WAS ACTIVELY READING THEM
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 19 2014 01:03 GMT
#801
and then cherry picked one to make me look like scum
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 19 2014 01:06 GMT
#806
On March 19 2014 10:05 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 10:03 Holyflare wrote:
and then cherry picked one to make me look like scum


We must be playing on different sites because I have seen townies make awful meta cases time and time again.


there is awful and then there is downright lying, HE REFERENCED THE FUCKING TOWN GAME WHERE I DID THE SAME THING IN THE SAME POST "scooby doo" is the fucking game i'm talking about and he used it in the post after he accused me

it's like trying to talk to a 3 year old or something that just doesn't get it
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 19 2014 01:13 GMT
#809
rayn said he agreed with it ~_~ it didn't gain traction because you hammered on about what do you think of bla bla and then nobody wanted to respond because you were being useless and then the rayn thing happened so don't even bothere saying "because it gained no traction"


How can you possibly disagree.

He modded the scum game (culture) he is referencing
He read the scooby doo game where I did the same thing but was town as he mentioned "scooby doo"
He enters the thread and the only thing he does is to say I'm scum because of culture, despite directly referencing the game I did the same thing as town in

You say you disagree and provide 0 reasoning for it other than "meh maybe it's a bad case", that does not correlate at all, stop being bad and question hopeless.




I don't care about rayn, he rage quit and he's dumb as shit for doing it, he pushed a mediocre case out of nothing and then left because of someone posting their seal. He did the same thing in culture (- the pushing) about mocsta and was town. He's useless. I don't know about alignment.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 19 2014 01:25 GMT
#820
Giggletummy most probably:

In really small mafia: Hist filter

despite the amount of stuff I was saying and pushing and the amount of crap that was going on, he was really hesitant to put down votes without questioning people (in really small mafia) in this game he has pretty much done nothing, agreed with part of my post on DP and then voted me despite agreeing with me...? Without asking any questions at all. Completely different play.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 19 2014 01:31 GMT
#825
On March 19 2014 10:29 DarthPunk wrote:
Eh I'm not seeing that either considering GT posted like 5 one liners of crap in the first 5 hours and this game has been going for less.

Is Giggletummy new or a smurf or what?

##summon: KUSH


you are being intolerable -.- read his filter jesus

mocsta was OBVIOUS OBVIOUS scum but even then when I made case after case on him he made posts like:

On January 11 2014 10:44 Giggletummy wrote:
Mocsta has played enough town games that I'd like to look through more than just the one, but noted. Second point I don't care about, because following up on a suspicion or pointing out broken promises often a townie thing to do, shows he's staying with his read, knows what Derrida has been saying, and is trying to get more out of Derrida. Voice mafia stuff or IML stuff I can't comment on.


pointed out things he disliked, things he didn't agree with and things he agreed with and then made tells from that and eventually mocsta got lynched but it took a really really really long time!

Here? He's posted that he LIKED a part of my post, didn't comment or elaborate on the rest and then VOTED me. How does that correlate at all?

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 19 2014 01:32 GMT
#826
On March 19 2014 10:30 Coagulation wrote:
No darthpunk. He doesnt need to say anything. the situation has already presented itself.

He made up a "damned if you do damned if you dont" situation that had zero correct response for me.

Do you not see that? can someone else acknowledge what im seeing?


yes but that doesn't make him scum because he's done that as town in even more retarded situations
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 19 2014 01:37 GMT
#830
and that is why I will carry you and also why I'm the champ and you're the chump!

It's REGARDLESS of the point of the game. It's the content that is happening in the game at the time. There was a lot to talk about, contribute to and question in this game. In that game I was trolling with scooby doo paint pictures hence the one liner trolling atmosphere. I know the content in this game I know the content of that game. I can correlate both of them.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 19 2014 01:41 GMT
#833
On March 19 2014 10:39 Hopeless1der wrote:
for the sake of transparency, I did not read the game holy is talking about. I know that he "caught" his scumbuddy off of "scooby doo" and completely fooled rayn and the rest of town in cultured. In that game it was both true and a moderately reliable tell that he used. This game he did not have that in his push on either DP or me.


because i've made like 1 post with paint in it?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 19 2014 01:47 GMT
#835
On March 19 2014 10:45 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 10:41 Holyflare wrote:
On March 19 2014 10:39 Hopeless1der wrote:
for the sake of transparency, I did not read the game holy is talking about. I know that he "caught" his scumbuddy off of "scooby doo" and completely fooled rayn and the rest of town in cultured. In that game it was both true and a moderately reliable tell that he used. This game he did not have that in his push on either DP or me.


because i've made like 1 post with paint in it?

you called DP scum for pregame banter and outright bullshit and then me scum because I called you out for it...what does paint pictures have to do with it?


you were just talking about using the scooby doo tell to catch you and dp but the scooby doo tell is about using paint pictures? o.o

you have also not called me out for his pre-game stuff, where is that and why does it not apply to DP's game so far?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 19 2014 03:40 GMT
#853
On March 19 2014 11:13 Hopeless1der wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 26 2014 10:26 suki wrote:
Someone tell me what HolyFlare is doing.

In the meantime:

[image loading]


so you are saying this was the post you "scoobydoo'd" suki with in culture? I dont know what scooby doo means, i inferred that it simply meant caught a scummer.

At any rate, all this results in is that Really Small (i think, whatever game you caught GGTemplar in referred to below) and Cultured both show you using this "method". There was a reason for it, and afaik it came down to
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 21:52 Holyflare wrote:
On February 26 2014 21:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
Phoneposting:
So HF suki was your scoobydoo read? Can you go into a little detail?
Mocsta I'm not sure how you get that HF is provoking you. I've seen him provoke people and that isn't it.

Also re:Mocsta's flipping reads-list

Who is more likely to either forget or flip flop on reads with little to no reasoning?
I can say right now as scum I had airtight reads throughout, justification where I needed it and I kept track of who I had my 'reads' on.

I definitely need words with some people today---figuring out suki seems especially key.
Also I might lynch JJD.


Well in really small mafia I did the scooby doo thing and the way I caught GGTemplar was from his joining in with the mini game while questioning what the hell was going on and perpetuating that I was clogging up the thread. Suki did a similar start to this but didn't perpetuate it, hence why I wanted to let her post more to see if she would.

Either way, her posting style was quite evident in her town games and I haven't seen it here yet but she's promised to deliver more later so I can only wait and see.

My initial comments were that your case on DP hinged on him /outing due to hydras then policying hydras (i.e. bullshit pregame stuff). Its stupid and terrible and by no means should anyone have considered it a scumtell.



It is absolutely a scum tell but that isn't even half of what makes dp scum and by extension your townish read of dp makes you scum. DP has NOTHING of value. You chimed in randomly in the day when i asked what dp was doing asking everyone about my posts. You said it was good contribution. Where has that contribution led dp? Nowhere. After I've asked dp why he felt vindicated about coag he says it's not because he's right on them being scum it's because he kbew they'd shit up the thread. So, he dropped scum hunting to perpetuate rayns easy coag target but failed. Where is he now? Oh yeh, 0 scum hunting, 0 conclusions. He's dropped majority of previous questioning and doesn't know what to do. Instead he asks people about their reads and says if lurkers don't post then they are scum. Major contributions. Major town points.

You are now failing to elaborate on reasoning for your reads when asked to. Especially on your very questiinable reads. That is a major red flag and i find it hard to believe that you wouldn't elaborate on them as town.
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