• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 05:54
CEST 11:54
KST 18:54
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10
Community News
Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.160Rollback Netcode in Brood War845.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 202622Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4)0SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup10
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.16 5.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 2026 ESL Pro Tour for SC2 discontinued [Old] StarCraft 3 Reportedly in Development
Tourneys
Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier RSL 2026 Offline Finals LCQ Sign-Ups $3,500 WardiTV Not-Summer Championship ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror Mutation # 546 Catch the Train Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts
Brood War
General
Visiting korea this week BW General Discussion ASL22 General Discussion Sagi.gg Launcher Released ASL FINALS HYPE VIDEO 2X
Tourneys
ASL 22 Finals [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Semifinal A [ASL22] Semifinal B
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Total Annihilation Zero
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The Link Between Gaming and …
TrAiDoS
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 15324 users

III Titanic Mini Mafia: MS Paint Edition - Page 4

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
March 21 2014 12:42 GMT
#2694
I've noticed something weird about Oats on page 50.

He is suddendly asking DP about his reads about me and Vivax. DP is one of his town read at that point.

On March 19 2014 19:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
aw DP.

Talk to me. Do you think Djodref or Vivax is scum?


And then Palmar says

On March 19 2014 19:18 Palmar wrote:
I don't think Vivax is, his post was pretty solid.


And DP answers

On March 19 2014 19:50 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 19:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
aw DP.

Talk to me. Do you think Djodref or Vivax is scum?


Why are one of them scum? I'm not sure on either to be honest. Vivax looked ok so thrawn calling him scum is odd.

Djo is ? to be determined. If he does scum hunting he is town based off mario mini but that was a long time ago.


So Oats goes

On March 19 2014 20:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 19:50 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 19 2014 19:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
aw DP.

Talk to me. Do you think Djodref or Vivax is scum?


Why are one of them scum? I'm not sure on either to be honest. Vivax looked ok so thrawn calling him scum is odd.

Djo is ? to be determined. If he does scum hunting he is town based off mario mini but that was a long time ago.

They could both be town or scum, just asking for a read.

I think Vivax is town I agree with palmar.

I dunno about Djo though, I actually think that he is purposely not participating in what is going on.



I don't understand why you ask one of your town read an insight of one of another of your townreads, especially coupled with a scummy (i.e me in that case).

I think Oats could be proding DP about his views on his scum partner Vivax here.

Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
March 21 2014 12:47 GMT
#2696
@Oats

I would like to know what your motivation was to ask this question to DP.

On March 19 2014 19:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
aw DP.

Talk to me. Do you think Djodref or Vivax is scum?
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
March 21 2014 12:58 GMT
#2701
On March 21 2014 21:49 Koshi wrote:
Djodref
Could you make us a list?
You can use Palmar his template.


Here is where I am right now, but it's not definitive yet though

Town hero tier
rayn
Koshi

leaning town tier

Darthpunk
thrawn
Hopeless

Honestly I don't know tier (from more town to less town)
Palmar
poof
Holyflare
GT
VE

leaning scum tier
Oats

Inactive tier
Slam
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
March 21 2014 13:00 GMT
#2703
On March 21 2014 21:53 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 21:47 Djodref wrote:
@Oats

I would like to know what your motivation was to ask this question to DP.

On March 19 2014 19:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
aw DP.

Talk to me. Do you think Djodref or Vivax is scum?


I can answer that I think. I read that as a prod towards me, saying: 'Hey DP I think you are town, I am town, Let's find some scum"


Yeah I agree with that, but it kind of implies that Vivax and me were on his scumradar then, but why then saying that he finds Vivax town ?
Do you see my point ?
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
March 21 2014 13:10 GMT
#2709
On March 21 2014 22:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
Djo faking reads right here. Why is Koshi town hero Djo?


Because he is very open about his thoughts in his posts, and I liked the process he used to vote me (as mentionned before). He is also very active and tries to figure out the game even now.
Also rayn has him as town and rayn is obsviouslt town and a good player, and they identified themselves both as town.

By the way, who do you lynch tomorrow and why if I'm vigged tonight ?
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
March 21 2014 13:13 GMT
#2711
On March 21 2014 21:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 21:47 Djodref wrote:
@Oats

I would like to know what your motivation was to ask this question to DP.

On March 19 2014 19:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
aw DP.

Talk to me. Do you think Djodref or Vivax is scum?

I wanted to know his reads on Djo and Vivax because they werent being discussed and I thought Djo was scummy.

Im not sure what answer you expected.


Vivax was discussed.
Why Vivax ? He was discussed at that point because he just made his first post 2 or 3 pages before you asked the question. I don't understand why you would group us in this question. Didn't you find Vivax scummy at this point
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
March 21 2014 13:20 GMT
#2717
On March 21 2014 22:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 22:10 Djodref wrote:
On March 21 2014 22:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
Djo faking reads right here. Why is Koshi town hero Djo?


Because he is very open about his thoughts in his posts, and I liked the process he used to vote me (as mentionned before). He is also very active and tries to figure out the game even now.
Also rayn has him as town and rayn is obsviouslt town and a good player, and they identified themselves both as town.

By the way, who do you lynch tomorrow and why if I'm vigged tonight ?

Rayn has me as town, why do you think Im scum?

I will lynch slam


Because I don't feel like you do anything else than tunneling me. So I don't know if you are trying to solve this game or not. I guess your tunnel looks fine for everybody else because I'm almost on everybody scumradar, but the thing is it's not fine for me because I'm not scum.
Also you are not as active as Koshi and I don't feel you as open and carefree as him.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
March 21 2014 13:24 GMT
#2720
On March 21 2014 22:13 Koshi wrote:
Djodref,
Why is thrawn town?


Activity is good tell for scum thrawn, or at least it was the case when I was playing with him.
Then I like his gut feeling he has for poof as a noob town. I can relate to that.
Also the posts that DP highlighted to show the townieness in thrawn.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
March 21 2014 13:27 GMT
#2722
On March 21 2014 22:18 Palmar wrote:
Why am I scummier than DP/Hopeless/thrawn Djodref?

Hint: there is a wrong answer.


Because I think there is a good possibility for GT to be town and I expect town you to push lynch on mafia and not town.
But if GT turns out to be scum, I would put you back in the hero town tier.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
March 21 2014 13:28 GMT
#2723
On March 21 2014 22:25 Koshi wrote:
damn [g][/g] doesn't work.
Anyhoezels.

I am going to repeat this once more.

VIGI DO NOT SHOOT.

Imagine a world in which Alakaslam is doc, Giggletummy is cop, and you are a vigi. Imagine how bad you could fuck up. Do not shoot. You will hit a blue.


Well the vig can shoot me if he wants
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
March 21 2014 13:36 GMT
#2730
On March 21 2014 22:29 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 22:28 Djodref wrote:
On March 21 2014 22:25 Koshi wrote:
damn [g][/g] doesn't work.
Anyhoezels.

I am going to repeat this once more.

VIGI DO NOT SHOOT.

Imagine a world in which Alakaslam is doc, Giggletummy is cop, and you are a vigi. Imagine how bad you could fuck up. Do not shoot. You will hit a blue.


Well the vig can shoot me if he wants

Are you claiming VT?


Yeah, I claim VT. But I don't mind being shot, I think I would do town more good than harm given the position I'm in right now.
It could force Oats to participate for example. And make room to find the real scummers.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
March 21 2014 16:42 GMT
#2857
On March 22 2014 01:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
The reason Oats does that is it's almost certain at the time of Oats' vote switch that Vivax is going to be the lynch unless I'm misremembering. Yes town Oats changes his mind, but the fact is that there was nothing new said - there was no further explanation of the point. Oats DISAGREED with your theory, full stop. Then he voted for Vivax, in such a way that it seemed like he never doubted your read of the situation.


I just want to add that this is exactly what is expressed on his drawing he made here.

On March 20 2014 23:44 Oatsmaster wrote:
[image loading]


At this point, scum Oats has realised that everyone was going to see that Vivax was scum given the damning evidence presented in the thread. He isolates here HF in his drawing while he was making roughly the same argument with the filters just a moment before.
At first read, I found it a little unfair to HF, but I think Oats wanted to be part of the "EVERYONE" because he realized it was going to be a successful and unstoppable wagon.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
March 21 2014 16:48 GMT
#2865
On March 22 2014 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2014 01:42 Djodref wrote:
On March 22 2014 01:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
The reason Oats does that is it's almost certain at the time of Oats' vote switch that Vivax is going to be the lynch unless I'm misremembering. Yes town Oats changes his mind, but the fact is that there was nothing new said - there was no further explanation of the point. Oats DISAGREED with your theory, full stop. Then he voted for Vivax, in such a way that it seemed like he never doubted your read of the situation.


I just want to add that this is exactly what is expressed on his drawing he made here.

On March 20 2014 23:44 Oatsmaster wrote:
[image loading]


At this point, scum Oats has realised that everyone was going to see that Vivax was scum given the damning evidence presented in the thread. He isolates here HF in his drawing while he was making roughly the same argument with the filters just a moment before.
At first read, I found it a little unfair to HF, but I think Oats wanted to be part of the "EVERYONE" because he realized it was going to be a successful and unstoppable wagon.

How can you say it's damning evidence because at the time you didn't YOURSELF think it's damning evidence and neither did about 8 other players?


Yeah, that's why it's a little disturbing that DP and Oats understood what it meant this quickly.
DP is smart but Oats 180 is too quick for my liking
If you know that Vivax is scum, you know where this is going.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
March 21 2014 20:00 GMT
#3009
Just in case I'm vigged...

[image loading]
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
March 21 2014 20:47 GMT
#3054
On March 22 2014 05:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay so. Is Djo mafia too?
Are all the D1 wagons mafia?


No, I'm still town. Nice shot by the way. Mafia did nothing D1 then.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
March 21 2014 20:55 GMT
#3059
On March 22 2014 05:51 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2014 05:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Everyone who was on Djo instead of GT talk.
now.
plz.

thats u thrawn oats koshi. mostly koshi i guess


What do you mean mostly Koshi ?
Before the Vivax stuff, I had only Oats, Koshi and thrawn on me.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
March 21 2014 20:59 GMT
#3066
On March 22 2014 05:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
VE gets to be really town bcz of this and Djodref needs to talk about something not Plammer now.
cool <3


Yeah, Palmar definitively back to town hero tier. It was hard for me to believe scum GT lynch to be so uncontested.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
March 21 2014 21:43 GMT
#3068
On March 22 2014 06:15 thrawn2112 wrote:
well.

djo was a viable lynch candidate ever since koshi voted for him. if djo is town he was a potential mislynch wagon. if djo is town, wouldn't he have been scum's only chance at a mislynch?

vivax didn't try to lynch djo
GGT didn't try to lynch djo

basically I'm saying that the flipped scum's voting evidence suggests that djo is mafia, because neither of them tried to push a lynch on djo while they themselves were being pushed towards the lynch.


It's because I'm a beacon of townieness, they knew they wouldn't manage to lynch me and would only look bad in the process.
On a more serious note, vivax was AFK most of the time, I guess he was really busy IRL. GGT was not very active as well, and was already looking too scummy to get traction.
From my point of view, I'm am more and more convinced that Oats is scum.

Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
March 21 2014 22:01 GMT
#3072
I confronted Oats with his very first town read on Vivax, which surprisingly comes after this question he asked to DP.

On March 19 2014 19:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
aw DP.

Talk to me. Do you think Djodref or Vivax is scum?


If town Oats was writing this post, it would mean that town Oats is wary of Vivax and me, and asking confirmation for a fellow townie (in this case DP is one of his townread). It's difficult for me to imagine any other reason to phrase to question his way.

After this question, Palmar and DP basically said that Vivax first posts were looking townie enough for them. Hence

On March 19 2014 20:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 19:50 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 19 2014 19:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
aw DP.

Talk to me. Do you think Djodref or Vivax is scum?


Why are one of them scum? I'm not sure on either to be honest. Vivax looked ok so thrawn calling him scum is odd.

Djo is ? to be determined. If he does scum hunting he is town based off mario mini but that was a long time ago.

They could both be town or scum, just asking for a read.

I think Vivax is town I agree with palmar.


I dunno about Djo though, I actually think that he is purposely not participating in what is going on.



Please notice here how he changed his question first. He was not asking if Vivax or me were scum anymore, but just for a read. It contradicts the phrasing of the first question.
And suddenly his wariness of Vivax disappears, he agrees with Palmar that Vivax is town.


When I confronted Oats with this posts he answered with this post

On March 21 2014 21:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 21:47 Djodref wrote:
@Oats

I would like to know what your motivation was to ask this question to DP.

On March 19 2014 19:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
aw DP.

Talk to me. Do you think Djodref or Vivax is scum?

I wanted to know his reads on Djo and Vivax because they werent being discussed and I thought Djo was scummy.

Im not sure what answer you expected.


I call this post bullshit. It's a lie ! Vivax was discussed at that point because he just made his entrance into the thread a few pages ago.
On my timestamps, here is the date of Vivax first post in the thread

Vivax Austria. March 19 2014 14:44. Posts 5166

and here is the date of Oats question to DP, just a few hours after

Oatsmaster Singapore. March 19 2014 19:16. Posts 10165

If you add this to the quick 180 Oats did on Vivax to be one of the first to vote him after rayn found him, I'm pretty confident that Oats is mafia.

## vote Oats

Paint incoming !

Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
March 21 2014 22:06 GMT
#3074
[image loading]
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 6m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 14818
Rain 2330
Bisu 769
Horang2 639
Hyuk 492
Jaedong 424
hero 149
Rush 114
Noble 107
Hyun 99
[ Show more ]
Yoon 87
Shinee 76
EffOrt 65
Mong 56
PianO 39
Stork 32
sSak 26
NaDa 24
Sharp 21
HiyA 11
Dota 2
XcaliburYe356
Fuzer 118
League of Legends
JimRising 439
Reynor114
Counter-Strike
olofmeister856
kRYSTAL_196
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King108
Other Games
ceh9718
crisheroes359
dupreeh224
Pyrionflax223
Hui .142
BEARDiaguz8
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV238
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 39
• LUISG 32
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 3
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV489
• lizZardDota2303
League of Legends
• Jankos1854
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Weekly
1h 6m
PiGosaur Cup
14h 6m
Kung Fu Cup
1d 1h
The PondCast
2 days
Online Event
3 days
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Rush vs Soulkey
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
BSL Open Qualifier
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
[ Show More ]
IPSL
5 days
BSL Open Qualifier
5 days
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-10-12
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Copium Cup

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
Acropolis #5
HCC Season 3
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.