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On March 01 2014 00:14 JarJarDrinks wrote:
And IDK what to say about Gumshoe. I'm a little less sure about him now but I really feel like he orchestrated evrything and was setting me up for sukis flip well before the fact.
Yes he voted for her but what choice did he have after vivax claims? He couldn't vote for moc after he had been pushing me, vivax and suki forever not to mention the fact that he was screaming to high heavens that Moc was town.
In fact the only other choice he had was to say that he didn't believe vivaxs' claim which he tried super hard to do untill it was clear that the town wasn't having it.
I stopped believing his claim the moment he claimed vig, he took on the role with the easiest pay load, why would I want to lynch him then? God your such scum Jar Jar T_T IT HURTS, IT HURTS MY VERY SOUL.
Besides, lets assume Vax is vig, and his shot goes off tonight on a townie, we would still have two mislynches. You can all still afford to listen to me, it's worked out so far. If Jar isnt actually scum though, please kill me, I'll deserve to die at that point
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On March 01 2014 00:25 Vivax wrote:
Yeah gum good to see you're here. Can you explain to me how you posted multiple points about suki, then dropped it to go after JJD, that way putting suki on the backburner until after I claimed?
My read on Jar was one of asociation with Suki, they buddied like hell, but if I was to say one was scum and one town, it would be Jar as scum, because Suki had decent reads and usually came up with her own pushes, where as jar jars motives lined up with hers almost perfectly and his play/ reads were bad from my view.
Also if I was scum, why not stay on Jar? Is he scum too? Great, kill him anyways. I voted Suki cause Jar wasnt going to be lynched and suki was still in my top 3.
As for your claim, I've said it before I'll say it again, not going to lynch the most powerful blue role until he gets his shot. End of story.
I'd like to remind you all, you are the ones arguing the harder postion (that I am intentionally playing sub optimally to win). It is not my job to convince you, tell me my motives, or accept the fact that your lynch of me is merely praying on town paranoia and a desire within each player to personally win the game.
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On March 01 2014 00:31 Vivax wrote:
Gum I really don't want to kill you out of the blue and I just want to know if you're town or not.
My main issue is simply that I cannot understand how you chose your lynch priorities regarding suki me and JJD, how you abandoned your early vote on her and why you brought up JarJar's post after I claimed as a reason for your vote instead of 1000 better reasons (like the points you already had brought up earlier.
Isnt that key? You dont want to kill me out of the blue? But you do wanna kill me dont you XD
Also the post you mentioned was brought up long before your claim
You start distancing yourself. You abandon your game long town read on Suki on the basis that you think I bussed my team mate right off the bat. This theory is dumb, it assumes I am utterly incompetent and the only reason I can imagine you abandoning Suki for it is if you know shes going to flip scum, and your trying to discard your relation with her as quickly as possible. What more the positioning of this post makes suki being scum imply that I'm scum as opposed to you bieng scum, which is exactly what I would do if I was worried about being brought down along with her. Also if I'm lynched , youve set it up so that suki looks town, because you scum read her purely based off your read of me.
February 28 2014 05:29.
Your claim
February 28 2014 06:05.
No but I can tell that you're either awful at reading me or scum. I'm a blue.
The reasoning was initially there a whole half an hour before your claim. honestly I switched onto Suki because I wasnt going to waste my vote on someone whose not getting lynched. That is because I am town, if I was scum, I would just stay on Jar Jar. Like, your arguing an inconsistency that in no way proves I'm scum, because theres no reason for me to switch off of Jar Jar if thats the case.
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On March 01 2014 00:36 JarJarDrinks wrote:
And the other the other thing about GSL is how he always added his scumbuddy mordanis in his scumreads. The difference there was mord wasnt in danger of being lynched so he never had to vote for him.
Like, I think it's pretty obvious that if the 2 wagons yesterday ended up being vivax and suki, he would have voted vivax.
Of course I'd vote Vivax, because hes scum XD his claim is disgustingly convenient. You know what, I've called everything else in this game so far so why not, calling it now, Vivax's shot will not go off, because there is no shot. What am I willing to bet? My life of course. Take careful aim "Vig".
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On March 01 2014 00:14 JarJarDrinks wrote:
And IDK what to say about Gumshoe. I'm a little less sure about him now but I really feel like he orchestrated evrything and was setting me up for sukis flip well before the fact.
Yes he voted for her but what choice did he have after vivax claims? He couldn't vote for moc after he had been pushing me, vivax and suki forever not to mention the fact that he was screaming to high heavens that Moc was town.
In fact the only other choice he had was to say that he didn't believe vivaxs' claim which he tried super hard to do untill it was clear that the town wasn't having it.
No, I coulda stayed on you 0_o Geript did just that with Toad. I easily could have done the same, I just would have made sure to leave the lynch before hand.
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On March 01 2014 00:47 Vivax wrote:
There's one person in particular that hasn't been brought up as possible scum...EVER, and that caught my eye.
This person comments on multiple people being scummy for some reason, two of them being called out. The person calls some of suki's points legitimate at some point, but at no point calls anything scummy about suki, only asks her a question about the town atmosphere thing.
The person calls out Mocsta and TheChyz as scummy, but when the person has to decide it justifies its vote on suki by arguing that most townreads are on her, and doesn't argue for Mocsta being more scummy over suki despite calling him scummy earlier, but never saying much about suki.
And the person iiiis?
I propose a motion to dismiss everything Vivax says until his shot goes off. He is playing a fantastic scum game, but a scum game none the less.
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I mean hes just spewing poisen, hes not able to get traction with me, so hes moving onto accusing someone else who could have easily saved their gf.
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On March 01 2014 01:04 Vivax wrote:
Or do you guys really want to assume that suki cannot have been bussed?
Yes, we should be assuming that. Any one of the five people could have saved thier gf and didnt. Unlike you, I'm not assuming sub optimal play. Also the fact that Ange calls out Mocsta as scummy proves that she could have been on Moc no problem. Ie there was no conflict of stance if she wanted to you know, not fuck her scum team.
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On March 01 2014 00:50 Vivax wrote:
Gumshoe I'm not scum and if you didn't realize it by now regardless of the claim then I fear that your JJD read is equally bad. I have no fucking reason to be this tryhard since I claimed, I could just relax and do jack and nobody would want to lynch me for a good time.
And as JarJar said, the vigi fakeclaim is the most dangerous one cause if the real vigi sees it then he will shoot you. Although I've already been in a game with two one-shot-vigis, but since there's probably a DT I don't think that it will be the case.
This, scum know that there is a dt because there is a god father. Therefore dt is not a safe claim, but vig is. Vig also happens to be the best role for proving itself, and at the same time a super easy one for scum to claim because they just claim role block, or claim the existence of one. On top of that, vig has the most plays, if you aim at me tonight, and claim role block tommorow that implies I'm scum and sounds way more factual than "guys I got a red check!" even though the two narratives are effectively the same. Basically it was a completely safe gamble and we should treat it as such. As for Jar Jar, you were wrong about Suki, if you are somehow blue blood, how confident are you that hes town as well?
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On March 01 2014 01:12 Vivax wrote:
HF tell me who I have to shoot pls.
Shoot. Jar. Jar.
But you wont will you? because you have no intention of that shot going off, although you do have one blast in mind. The person who the gun is aimed at when the "role block" happens is the one who looks like scum. Thats why you'll point it at everybody and anybody but him.
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On March 01 2014 00:53 geript wrote:
Damn I really feel like my townreads are spot on. Like really spot on. Sorry Moc, you know I like you.
I sincerely hope your wrong about every last thing in this game ( :
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On March 01 2014 01:19 Vivax wrote:
Well I won't announce who I will be shooting, so scum will have to gamble. Either I hit a townie and give them an extra KP or I hit one of them.
They can probably think about my possible targets though.
How convenient.
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On March 01 2014 00:25 JarJarDrinks wrote:more similairities between this game GSL Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 11:59 gumshoe wrote:
At the very least, I think I've earned the right to see Jar Jar die before me and even if I am scum, the sooner he flips the sooner you can kill me for my retarded red play ( :
Show nested quote +On February 21 2014 12:23 gumshoe wrote:
Im pretty much betting everything on this Matt lynch, if it fails, I am almost entirely to blame and I expect my head to roll shortly after his.
The situations are totally different.
Gsl, we had already had a mislynch AND TWO MODKILLS. All I needed was one more kill and town was at lylo, so I went all in.
Here though? Gf was killed day 1, partly by my hand. Say I yolo and get you killed, where does that leave me as scum? I still need at least 2 more mislynches, even if Vivax is actually vig and misfires.
Whats wrong Jar, this used to be kinda fun, your slipping ( :
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On March 01 2014 01:23 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2014 01:09 gumshoe wrote:On March 01 2014 01:04 Vivax wrote:
Or do you guys really want to assume that suki cannot have been bussed? Yes, we should be assuming that. Any one of the five people could have saved thier gf and didnt. Except you. You absolutely could not have saved suki because you had to vote your scumread and sure as heck couldn't vote for Moc. like Ang called moc and suki both scummy earlier so it wouldn't have been that suspicious. And no one else had a super town read on moc like you claimed to have. So when you say " Any one of the five people could have saved thier gf and didnt" what you mean is " Any one of the five people except me could have saved thier gf and didnt"
I WOULD HAVE KEPT MY VOTE ON YOU. HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO REPEAT MYSELF.
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On March 01 2014 01:23 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2014 01:09 gumshoe wrote:On March 01 2014 01:04 Vivax wrote:
Or do you guys really want to assume that suki cannot have been bussed? Yes, we should be assuming that. Any one of the five people could have saved thier gf and didnt. Except you. You absolutely could not have saved suki because you had to vote your scumread and sure as heck couldn't vote for Moc. like Ang called moc and suki both scummy earlier so it wouldn't have been that suspicious. And no one else had a super town read on moc like you claimed to have. So when you say " Any one of the five people could have saved thier gf and didnt" what you mean is " Any one of the five people except me could have saved thier gf and didnt"
Also, the whole reason I was in such a position is because I sheeped moc at the start (confirmed townie) and fought Suki from the very first hours of the game(confirmed scum). I could have saved her if she was my gf at any time by simply not being an twat.
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On March 01 2014 01:24 Vivax wrote:
Gum, JJD just brought up a strong point which illustrates why you brought yourself into a situation where you could only bus if you are scum.
Point 1: I would have had to have put myself in that position in the first place. Why would I do that as scum?
Point 2: "Ok guys, Jar is scum, I gotta go now, wont be in time for lynch, but trust me, just vote him"
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On March 01 2014 01:24 Vivax wrote:
Gum, JJD just brought up a strong point which illustrates why you brought yourself into a situation where you could only bus if you are scum.
Vivax, if you are town (which your not) I want you to take a deep breath and realize you are sheeping Jar Jar of all people. Someone Suki lauded with praise.
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On March 01 2014 01:29 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2014 01:26 gumshoe wrote:On March 01 2014 01:24 Vivax wrote:
Gum, JJD just brought up a strong point which illustrates why you brought yourself into a situation where you could only bus if you are scum. Point 1: I would have had to have put myself in that position in the first place. Why would I do that as scum? Point 2: "Ok guys, Jar is scum, I gotta go now, wont be in time for lynch, but trust me, just vote him" You "slipped" in the post that Moc was like confirmed town in your opinion (intentionally or not). Hence closed the door for a lynch on him. Point 2 would have made you look shitty cause you had suki in your scumreads previously but would have left your vote where it didn't matter.
Jar Jar was more so a scum read of mie. If geript can vote his read and leave, why cant I? Besides I could have left at a time suki only had 2-3 votes, thereby exonerating myself. The point is, so long as I had decent options, they were all better than lynching my Gf.
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On March 01 2014 01:30 geript wrote:
Don't worry gummybear, I got your back. Vivax if you shoot my gummybear then I swear I will lynch you for funsies.
: D
Apreciate it, but if two shots go off tonight, were not lynching Vivax even if he claims scum once every hour for the rest of the game.
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On March 01 2014 01:35 JarJarDrinks wrote:Chyz. Case here: + Show Spoiler +On March 01 2014 00:01 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 08:52 TheChyz wrote:
No I don't. The moment he sayed it he already sounded arrogant as if he was untouchable (which he probably is). He is also willing to shoot anybody who argues with him and pisses him off is really stupid imo. Would rather mislynch even if he is vig than mislynch some townie and have him shoot a townie because of him ego. Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 08:53 TheChyz wrote:On February 28 2014 08:49 Cavalinho wrote:
See, this is what I was talking about. Every time she showed up, she contributed and made solid posts and analysis on other players. The second she disappears people think she is scummy.
HolyFlare, is there anyone else you'd be particularly satisfied to vote for? I think suki is town, and Mocsta is probably the better lynch between the two. And yet your vote is in suki.......? Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 08:56 TheChyz wrote:On February 28 2014 08:55 Cavalinho wrote:On February 28 2014 08:53 TheChyz wrote:On February 28 2014 08:49 Cavalinho wrote:
See, this is what I was talking about. Every time she showed up, she contributed and made solid posts and analysis on other players. The second she disappears people think she is scummy.
HolyFlare, is there anyone else you'd be particularly satisfied to vote for? I think suki is town, and Mocsta is probably the better lynch between the two. And yet your vote is in suki.......? Go reread. I'm not going to bother explaining things to you if you aren't diving my incredibly short filter. ##Unvote##vote Mocsta I know why you voted for her, and its complete garbage the case you make. You basically said that your going to vote a town read who you think is supplying good analysis to the game just because some other of your town reads are voting her. ROFL what a joke I think these posts make chyz look pretty bad. He's telling us how he wants to lynch suki. Yet he's basically convincing Cav to switch off her. And more importantly, HE NEVER VOTES. He's basically a no-vote even though he's around @ the deadline. Like he says "Well I wouldn't mind you or suki getting lynched if I had no choice in the matter. So if it comes to it last minute that somebody other than you three is going to get lynched and I'm able to lynch one of you, I probably will" And he even quotes it himself. But then when Cav switched to tie the vote he didn't do what he said he'd do. He left the door wide open for moc to get lynched because me and vivax were trying to orchestrate a switch for the town. Like you would think he'd see people trying to move votes off suk and then he'd do what he said he'd do. Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 09:00 Aquanim wrote:
Final Votecount
Mocsta (5) - suki, Holyflare, raynpelikoneet, Vivax, Toadesstern, Toadesstern, JarJarDrinks, suki, Cavalinho
geript (1) - Toadesstern, TheChyz, Toadesstern
TheChyz (1) - raynpelikoneet, Mocsta, JarJarDrinks, Cavalinho, suki, suki
Toadesstern (1) - Geript, Geript
JarJarDrinks (0) - Geript, Gumshoe
gumshoe (0) - WaveofShadow, Mocsta, JarJarDrinks
WaveofShadow (0) - raynpelikoneet, Vivax
suki (5) - WaveofShadow, Gumshoe, Holyflare, raynpelikoneet, raynpelikoneet, Gumshoe, WaveofShadow, Ange777,
Vivax (1) - WaveofShadow, raynpelikoneet, Mocsta, suki
And the clincher is he tries to take credit for the lynch. What does he mean by he's glad he didn't cave? Cave to what. He never implied that he wanted to lynch mocsta. Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 09:07 TheChyz wrote:Wow I was worried my read was wrong. Glad I didnt cave 
Lol, you are nothing if not consistent Jar Jar.
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