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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 17 2014 20:18 GMT
#1841
Votecount:

LoneMeow ( 2 ) : Hopeless1der, Oatsmaster, Coagulation
Hopeless1der ( 2 ) : LoneMeow, Aquanim, Aquanim
Coagulation ( 1 ) : Oatsmaster 

Everyone has voted, noone to be modkilled as of now, good kids!
With 2 votes Hopeless1der is set to be lynched

Deadline on Monday, Feb 17 9:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
That means you've got left to vote!

if you happen to find any mistakes in the above, please inform us/me about it immediatly, thanks.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
February 17 2014 20:23 GMT
#1842
Oats get your fucking vote on lonemeow before hopeless gets fucking lynched.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
February 17 2014 20:27 GMT
#1843
Its either lonemeow or aqua as the last scum. I wont be back till after flip so if im dead when I get back good fucking luck with that shit town.
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
February 17 2014 20:50 GMT
#1844
Coag why do you think hopeless is town now? last I heard you were scum on him
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
February 17 2014 20:51 GMT
#1845
fuck you're gone and won't be back. Is ANYONE here.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
February 17 2014 20:52 GMT
#1846
....*raises hand*
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
February 17 2014 20:54 GMT
#1847
...okay.

Well, if I want to lynch you I can't even unvote otherwise precedence passes to LM. If I unvote, Lone gets lynched unless we both vote Coag.

Wonderful.
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
February 17 2014 20:56 GMT
#1848
If LoneMeow is scum I simply can't fathom this post:
On February 17 2014 22:21 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 17:22 LoneMeow wrote:
Actually, now that I went back and checked the timing of things Aquanim looks very town for the D1 push on JonnyLaw, far more than I originally thought.

When he made this big push to get JonnyLaw lynched the votes, if I'm not mistaken, were like this:

Jaybrundage ( 3 ) : Balla24, Koshi, suki, Hopeless1der, Oatsmaster, Alakaslam
JonnyLaw ( 3 ) : suki, Koshi, Aquanim, Balla24
Alakaslam ( 0 ) : jaybrundage
Sidesprang ( 1 ) : Oatsmaster
suki ( 1 ) : Oatsmaster, Balla24, Jaybrundage
Koshi ( 1 ) : Jaybrundage, JonnyLaw
Balla24 ( 0 ) : Jaybrundage, suki
Aquanim ( 0 ) : Balla24

There's always a slight chance it was a bus given how JonnyLaw was playing and how much suspicion he was getting, but I'd say that he looks town enough for now.


So I checked, the following people were voicing suspicion on JonnyLaw before Aquanim posted his case:
suki
jaybrundage
Balla24
Koshi
myself

So considering the timing, it could very well have been a bus but that's pretty inconclusive.


Aquanim, were you voting Coagulation on D2 because you thought he was scum or because he was a liability?

Why would a scum come into the thread and start pressuring the only other person voting with them?
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
February 17 2014 21:00 GMT
#1849
I'm here now. I'm not exactly happy with Oatsmaster just opting out of the lynch like that. Though with Coagulation's wanting to lynch me for not being here when it's not exactly like he is here either... Meh.

Hopeless1der, did you ever like explain why you think I'm scum besides "he was my weakest town read"?
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
February 17 2014 21:00 GMT
#1850
On February 17 2014 22:57 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 22:42 Aquanim wrote:
On February 17 2014 22:21 LoneMeow wrote:
On February 14 2014 17:22 LoneMeow wrote:
Actually, now that I went back and checked the timing of things Aquanim looks very town for the D1 push on JonnyLaw, far more than I originally thought.

When he made this big push to get JonnyLaw lynched the votes, if I'm not mistaken, were like this:

Jaybrundage ( 3 ) : Balla24, Koshi, suki, Hopeless1der, Oatsmaster, Alakaslam
JonnyLaw ( 3 ) : suki, Koshi, Aquanim, Balla24
Alakaslam ( 0 ) : jaybrundage
Sidesprang ( 1 ) : Oatsmaster
suki ( 1 ) : Oatsmaster, Balla24, Jaybrundage
Koshi ( 1 ) : Jaybrundage, JonnyLaw
Balla24 ( 0 ) : Jaybrundage, suki
Aquanim ( 0 ) : Balla24

There's always a slight chance it was a bus given how JonnyLaw was playing and how much suspicion he was getting, but I'd say that he looks town enough for now.


So I checked, the following people were voicing suspicion on JonnyLaw before Aquanim posted his case:
suki
jaybrundage
Balla24
Koshi
myself

So considering the timing, it could very well have been a bus but that's pretty inconclusive.


Aquanim, were you voting Coagulation on D2 because you thought he was scum or because he was a liability?

Both. I thought he was reasonably likely to be scum, and if he was town would likely either be mislynched later or contribute to a mislynch at LYLO - hence, a liability. I'm sure my reasons are in my filter, if you look.


This is the conclusion you came to after reading up on both players:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2014 06:28 Aquanim wrote:
On February 12 2014 04:16 Coagulation wrote:
Aquanim is defending sidesprang hard and making up illogical shit in the process. sidesprang Aquanim scum team
calling it now.

You're hilarious Coag.

Also, you disgust me... but the fact you're posting anything game-relevant at all is apparently a town-tell. (Much happier with the scum-meta from the PYP LoL game than the others I found.)

Imma go take a quick look at Sidesprang again.


Show nested quote +
On February 12 2014 06:45 Aquanim wrote:
Ha! Do your worst Coag.

Reading his filter again, it's still marginal but I think there was a significant amount more thought going into his posts in the newbie, rather than just summarising the thread (which more accurately describes here).

Can't say I'm hugely confident in this one but

##Unvote
##Vote: Sidesprang


Give me some kind of idea how strongly you thought each of them was scummy/towny at this point.

Also, why did you feel a need to change your vote if you were unconfident about the lynch, given that it did not affect the outcome?

Pretty sure that's in my filter too. I thought Sidesprang was significantly more likely to flip scum at that point but it still wouldn't have utterly shocked me for Coag to do so.

As for why I changed my vote... pretty sure I've covered this too. Suffice it to say that I prefer my vote to be on the person I want to lynch at the end of the day, regardless of whether it's necessary. Keeps things simple.
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
February 17 2014 21:02 GMT
#1851
Coag's reason for being townier on hopeless is:

Honestly he has said some of the scummiest shit in this game but hes really putting a ton of visible effort and discomfort in figuring out who the last scum is.


to which I wonder if he's even reading the game. as far as I can tell since the Suki lynch Hopeless' total visible effort into figuring out the last scum is "well I guess it has to be lone by PoE, peace out".
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
February 17 2014 21:05 GMT
#1852
On February 17 2014 23:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
I can kind of see how he might do this as a townie, if he was absolutely and positively convinced that Lone was scum and was willing to make any deal to see him lynched. Problem is, he doesn't have a case on Lone, just some PoE... I don't see how he can be sure enough about LM-scum to make this make sense from a townie point of view.

Oats, if you can see how this makes any kind of sense from a townie Hopeless let me know. In the meantime:

Uh you just said it. He is convinced.

My point was "if Hopeless is convinced, why can't he tell me why LoneMeow is scum based on his play?"
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
February 17 2014 21:13 GMT
#1853
On February 18 2014 06:05 Aquanim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 23:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
I can kind of see how he might do this as a townie, if he was absolutely and positively convinced that Lone was scum and was willing to make any deal to see him lynched. Problem is, he doesn't have a case on Lone, just some PoE... I don't see how he can be sure enough about LM-scum to make this make sense from a townie point of view.

Oats, if you can see how this makes any kind of sense from a townie Hopeless let me know. In the meantime:

Uh you just said it. He is convinced.

My point was "if Hopeless is convinced, why can't he tell me why LoneMeow is scum based on his play?"

which is a fair point, but the fact that I'm certain implies I cant be assed to actually assess the rest of the players since the game is effectively solved. (to me)
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
February 17 2014 21:14 GMT
#1854
On February 18 2014 06:00 Aquanim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 22:57 LoneMeow wrote:
On February 17 2014 22:42 Aquanim wrote:
On February 17 2014 22:21 LoneMeow wrote:
On February 14 2014 17:22 LoneMeow wrote:
Actually, now that I went back and checked the timing of things Aquanim looks very town for the D1 push on JonnyLaw, far more than I originally thought.

When he made this big push to get JonnyLaw lynched the votes, if I'm not mistaken, were like this:

Jaybrundage ( 3 ) : Balla24, Koshi, suki, Hopeless1der, Oatsmaster, Alakaslam
JonnyLaw ( 3 ) : suki, Koshi, Aquanim, Balla24
Alakaslam ( 0 ) : jaybrundage
Sidesprang ( 1 ) : Oatsmaster
suki ( 1 ) : Oatsmaster, Balla24, Jaybrundage
Koshi ( 1 ) : Jaybrundage, JonnyLaw
Balla24 ( 0 ) : Jaybrundage, suki
Aquanim ( 0 ) : Balla24

There's always a slight chance it was a bus given how JonnyLaw was playing and how much suspicion he was getting, but I'd say that he looks town enough for now.


So I checked, the following people were voicing suspicion on JonnyLaw before Aquanim posted his case:
suki
jaybrundage
Balla24
Koshi
myself

So considering the timing, it could very well have been a bus but that's pretty inconclusive.


Aquanim, were you voting Coagulation on D2 because you thought he was scum or because he was a liability?

Both. I thought he was reasonably likely to be scum, and if he was town would likely either be mislynched later or contribute to a mislynch at LYLO - hence, a liability. I'm sure my reasons are in my filter, if you look.


This is the conclusion you came to after reading up on both players:
On February 12 2014 06:28 Aquanim wrote:
On February 12 2014 04:16 Coagulation wrote:
Aquanim is defending sidesprang hard and making up illogical shit in the process. sidesprang Aquanim scum team
calling it now.

You're hilarious Coag.

Also, you disgust me... but the fact you're posting anything game-relevant at all is apparently a town-tell. (Much happier with the scum-meta from the PYP LoL game than the others I found.)

Imma go take a quick look at Sidesprang again.


On February 12 2014 06:45 Aquanim wrote:
Ha! Do your worst Coag.

Reading his filter again, it's still marginal but I think there was a significant amount more thought going into his posts in the newbie, rather than just summarising the thread (which more accurately describes here).

Can't say I'm hugely confident in this one but

##Unvote
##Vote: Sidesprang


Give me some kind of idea how strongly you thought each of them was scummy/towny at this point.

Also, why did you feel a need to change your vote if you were unconfident about the lynch, given that it did not affect the outcome?

Pretty sure that's in my filter too. I thought Sidesprang was significantly more likely to flip scum at that point but it still wouldn't have utterly shocked me for Coag to do so.

As for why I changed my vote... pretty sure I've covered this too. Suffice it to say that I prefer my vote to be on the person I want to lynch at the end of the day, regardless of whether it's necessary. Keeps things simple.


Right, the story checks out, nothing here that would make you look scummy.

Do you think there's a chance both wagons may have been on scum?
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
February 17 2014 21:16 GMT
#1855
On February 18 2014 06:13 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2014 06:05 Aquanim wrote:
On February 17 2014 23:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
I can kind of see how he might do this as a townie, if he was absolutely and positively convinced that Lone was scum and was willing to make any deal to see him lynched. Problem is, he doesn't have a case on Lone, just some PoE... I don't see how he can be sure enough about LM-scum to make this make sense from a townie point of view.

Oats, if you can see how this makes any kind of sense from a townie Hopeless let me know. In the meantime:

Uh you just said it. He is convinced.

My point was "if Hopeless is convinced, why can't he tell me why LoneMeow is scum based on his play?"

which is a fair point, but the fact that I'm certain implies I cant be assed to actually assess the rest of the players since the game is effectively solved. (to me)

Problem with that strategy is I can't distinguish between "can't be assed to assess the thread" and "scum" at this point.
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
February 17 2014 21:17 GMT
#1856
On February 18 2014 06:14 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2014 06:00 Aquanim wrote:
On February 17 2014 22:57 LoneMeow wrote:
On February 17 2014 22:42 Aquanim wrote:
On February 17 2014 22:21 LoneMeow wrote:
On February 14 2014 17:22 LoneMeow wrote:
Actually, now that I went back and checked the timing of things Aquanim looks very town for the D1 push on JonnyLaw, far more than I originally thought.

When he made this big push to get JonnyLaw lynched the votes, if I'm not mistaken, were like this:

Jaybrundage ( 3 ) : Balla24, Koshi, suki, Hopeless1der, Oatsmaster, Alakaslam
JonnyLaw ( 3 ) : suki, Koshi, Aquanim, Balla24
Alakaslam ( 0 ) : jaybrundage
Sidesprang ( 1 ) : Oatsmaster
suki ( 1 ) : Oatsmaster, Balla24, Jaybrundage
Koshi ( 1 ) : Jaybrundage, JonnyLaw
Balla24 ( 0 ) : Jaybrundage, suki
Aquanim ( 0 ) : Balla24

There's always a slight chance it was a bus given how JonnyLaw was playing and how much suspicion he was getting, but I'd say that he looks town enough for now.


So I checked, the following people were voicing suspicion on JonnyLaw before Aquanim posted his case:
suki
jaybrundage
Balla24
Koshi
myself

So considering the timing, it could very well have been a bus but that's pretty inconclusive.


Aquanim, were you voting Coagulation on D2 because you thought he was scum or because he was a liability?

Both. I thought he was reasonably likely to be scum, and if he was town would likely either be mislynched later or contribute to a mislynch at LYLO - hence, a liability. I'm sure my reasons are in my filter, if you look.


This is the conclusion you came to after reading up on both players:
On February 12 2014 06:28 Aquanim wrote:
On February 12 2014 04:16 Coagulation wrote:
Aquanim is defending sidesprang hard and making up illogical shit in the process. sidesprang Aquanim scum team
calling it now.

You're hilarious Coag.

Also, you disgust me... but the fact you're posting anything game-relevant at all is apparently a town-tell. (Much happier with the scum-meta from the PYP LoL game than the others I found.)

Imma go take a quick look at Sidesprang again.


On February 12 2014 06:45 Aquanim wrote:
Ha! Do your worst Coag.

Reading his filter again, it's still marginal but I think there was a significant amount more thought going into his posts in the newbie, rather than just summarising the thread (which more accurately describes here).

Can't say I'm hugely confident in this one but

##Unvote
##Vote: Sidesprang


Give me some kind of idea how strongly you thought each of them was scummy/towny at this point.

Also, why did you feel a need to change your vote if you were unconfident about the lynch, given that it did not affect the outcome?

Pretty sure that's in my filter too. I thought Sidesprang was significantly more likely to flip scum at that point but it still wouldn't have utterly shocked me for Coag to do so.

As for why I changed my vote... pretty sure I've covered this too. Suffice it to say that I prefer my vote to be on the person I want to lynch at the end of the day, regardless of whether it's necessary. Keeps things simple.


Right, the story checks out, nothing here that would make you look scummy.

Do you think there's a chance both wagons may have been on scum?

...Also in my filter. I think Oats asked me at some point.

I think it's conceivable - in that case there wouldn't have been any scum with thread presence trying to drive a lynch on a townie, so there's no exceptionally good reason why a two-scum-wagon day should be impossible.
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
February 17 2014 21:18 GMT
#1857
What is the purpose behind these questions LoneMeow?
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
February 17 2014 21:19 GMT
#1858
On February 18 2014 06:17 Aquanim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2014 06:14 LoneMeow wrote:
On February 18 2014 06:00 Aquanim wrote:
On February 17 2014 22:57 LoneMeow wrote:
On February 17 2014 22:42 Aquanim wrote:
On February 17 2014 22:21 LoneMeow wrote:
On February 14 2014 17:22 LoneMeow wrote:
Actually, now that I went back and checked the timing of things Aquanim looks very town for the D1 push on JonnyLaw, far more than I originally thought.

When he made this big push to get JonnyLaw lynched the votes, if I'm not mistaken, were like this:

Jaybrundage ( 3 ) : Balla24, Koshi, suki, Hopeless1der, Oatsmaster, Alakaslam
JonnyLaw ( 3 ) : suki, Koshi, Aquanim, Balla24
Alakaslam ( 0 ) : jaybrundage
Sidesprang ( 1 ) : Oatsmaster
suki ( 1 ) : Oatsmaster, Balla24, Jaybrundage
Koshi ( 1 ) : Jaybrundage, JonnyLaw
Balla24 ( 0 ) : Jaybrundage, suki
Aquanim ( 0 ) : Balla24

There's always a slight chance it was a bus given how JonnyLaw was playing and how much suspicion he was getting, but I'd say that he looks town enough for now.


So I checked, the following people were voicing suspicion on JonnyLaw before Aquanim posted his case:
suki
jaybrundage
Balla24
Koshi
myself

So considering the timing, it could very well have been a bus but that's pretty inconclusive.


Aquanim, were you voting Coagulation on D2 because you thought he was scum or because he was a liability?

Both. I thought he was reasonably likely to be scum, and if he was town would likely either be mislynched later or contribute to a mislynch at LYLO - hence, a liability. I'm sure my reasons are in my filter, if you look.


This is the conclusion you came to after reading up on both players:
On February 12 2014 06:28 Aquanim wrote:
On February 12 2014 04:16 Coagulation wrote:
Aquanim is defending sidesprang hard and making up illogical shit in the process. sidesprang Aquanim scum team
calling it now.

You're hilarious Coag.

Also, you disgust me... but the fact you're posting anything game-relevant at all is apparently a town-tell. (Much happier with the scum-meta from the PYP LoL game than the others I found.)

Imma go take a quick look at Sidesprang again.


On February 12 2014 06:45 Aquanim wrote:
Ha! Do your worst Coag.

Reading his filter again, it's still marginal but I think there was a significant amount more thought going into his posts in the newbie, rather than just summarising the thread (which more accurately describes here).

Can't say I'm hugely confident in this one but

##Unvote
##Vote: Sidesprang


Give me some kind of idea how strongly you thought each of them was scummy/towny at this point.

Also, why did you feel a need to change your vote if you were unconfident about the lynch, given that it did not affect the outcome?

Pretty sure that's in my filter too. I thought Sidesprang was significantly more likely to flip scum at that point but it still wouldn't have utterly shocked me for Coag to do so.

As for why I changed my vote... pretty sure I've covered this too. Suffice it to say that I prefer my vote to be on the person I want to lynch at the end of the day, regardless of whether it's necessary. Keeps things simple.


Right, the story checks out, nothing here that would make you look scummy.

Do you think there's a chance both wagons may have been on scum?

...Also in my filter. I think Oats asked me at some point.

I think it's conceivable - in that case there wouldn't have been any scum with thread presence trying to drive a lynch on a townie, so there's no exceptionally good reason why a two-scum-wagon day should be impossible.


Sorry, the question was a bit badly formed: What I meant to ask was whether there's anything about the play of Coagulation/sidesprang that would make it more/less likely?
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
February 17 2014 21:20 GMT
#1859
On February 18 2014 06:19 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2014 06:17 Aquanim wrote:
On February 18 2014 06:14 LoneMeow wrote:
On February 18 2014 06:00 Aquanim wrote:
On February 17 2014 22:57 LoneMeow wrote:
On February 17 2014 22:42 Aquanim wrote:
On February 17 2014 22:21 LoneMeow wrote:
On February 14 2014 17:22 LoneMeow wrote:
Actually, now that I went back and checked the timing of things Aquanim looks very town for the D1 push on JonnyLaw, far more than I originally thought.

When he made this big push to get JonnyLaw lynched the votes, if I'm not mistaken, were like this:

Jaybrundage ( 3 ) : Balla24, Koshi, suki, Hopeless1der, Oatsmaster, Alakaslam
JonnyLaw ( 3 ) : suki, Koshi, Aquanim, Balla24
Alakaslam ( 0 ) : jaybrundage
Sidesprang ( 1 ) : Oatsmaster
suki ( 1 ) : Oatsmaster, Balla24, Jaybrundage
Koshi ( 1 ) : Jaybrundage, JonnyLaw
Balla24 ( 0 ) : Jaybrundage, suki
Aquanim ( 0 ) : Balla24

There's always a slight chance it was a bus given how JonnyLaw was playing and how much suspicion he was getting, but I'd say that he looks town enough for now.


So I checked, the following people were voicing suspicion on JonnyLaw before Aquanim posted his case:
suki
jaybrundage
Balla24
Koshi
myself

So considering the timing, it could very well have been a bus but that's pretty inconclusive.


Aquanim, were you voting Coagulation on D2 because you thought he was scum or because he was a liability?

Both. I thought he was reasonably likely to be scum, and if he was town would likely either be mislynched later or contribute to a mislynch at LYLO - hence, a liability. I'm sure my reasons are in my filter, if you look.


This is the conclusion you came to after reading up on both players:
On February 12 2014 06:28 Aquanim wrote:
On February 12 2014 04:16 Coagulation wrote:
Aquanim is defending sidesprang hard and making up illogical shit in the process. sidesprang Aquanim scum team
calling it now.

You're hilarious Coag.

Also, you disgust me... but the fact you're posting anything game-relevant at all is apparently a town-tell. (Much happier with the scum-meta from the PYP LoL game than the others I found.)

Imma go take a quick look at Sidesprang again.


On February 12 2014 06:45 Aquanim wrote:
Ha! Do your worst Coag.

Reading his filter again, it's still marginal but I think there was a significant amount more thought going into his posts in the newbie, rather than just summarising the thread (which more accurately describes here).

Can't say I'm hugely confident in this one but

##Unvote
##Vote: Sidesprang


Give me some kind of idea how strongly you thought each of them was scummy/towny at this point.

Also, why did you feel a need to change your vote if you were unconfident about the lynch, given that it did not affect the outcome?

Pretty sure that's in my filter too. I thought Sidesprang was significantly more likely to flip scum at that point but it still wouldn't have utterly shocked me for Coag to do so.

As for why I changed my vote... pretty sure I've covered this too. Suffice it to say that I prefer my vote to be on the person I want to lynch at the end of the day, regardless of whether it's necessary. Keeps things simple.


Right, the story checks out, nothing here that would make you look scummy.

Do you think there's a chance both wagons may have been on scum?

...Also in my filter. I think Oats asked me at some point.

I think it's conceivable - in that case there wouldn't have been any scum with thread presence trying to drive a lynch on a townie, so there's no exceptionally good reason why a two-scum-wagon day should be impossible.


Sorry, the question was a bit badly formed: What I meant to ask was whether there's anything about the play of Coagulation/sidesprang that would make it more/less likely?

I don't remember any association between their two slots and I'm too busy to go back and check right now.
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February 17 2014 21:23 GMT
#1860
On February 18 2014 06:18 Aquanim wrote:
What is the purpose behind these questions LoneMeow?


Mainly to get more insight on your thought process.
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