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On February 09 2014 10:00 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2014 07:01 Palmar wrote:On February 09 2014 06:58 geript wrote:On February 09 2014 06:53 Palmar wrote:On February 08 2014 11:32 Oatsmaster wrote: What are you hoping your vote will achieve geript? No one is gonna lynch va just because of that.
Its not useful to discuss the nomination mechanic now so dont On February 08 2014 12:54 geript wrote: ##unvote ##vote Oats Stupid question bro. I put my vote where I wanna. Are you denying this happened? I mean feel free to attack my conclusion, but you can't attack my premise, that's just dumb. Also, I don't care what you think about "how players normally are". I'm not going to let people get away with doing stuff on "meta". No. It happened. You're trying to skew my purpose behind it in a scummy light. Do you deny that you've had scumreads on Oats before for lack of activity. Well my conclusion was that it wasn't productive, as I said in my post. I mean you may think it was but to me what you did was not productive at all. Now we can debate whether or not it's reasonable to make the jump from "unproductive" to "scummy". There's no reason that unproductive might come from town?
It shouldn't. I'm not saying it couldn't, but it shouldn't.
I mean you always have to work around or with people that just don't even try. The hard part is realizing who's mafia and who's just an asshole.
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On February 09 2014 10:04 marvellosity wrote: Thing is, Palmar, I like your "who sees themselves as obv town" question because it's kooky, and I thnk in a good way.
I'm not sure I agree on what you've done for the results. In my experience town are far more likely to think they look obv-town and mafia rarely think that way, even as a joke response. I constantly say I'm obv-town as town and can almost never make myself say it as mafia, as a joke or otherwise.
I specifically asked people not to troll the response. So I am assuming geript's opinion of himself is genuine. His later outburst actually supports that, so that's consistent. I don't think it was a joke response.
So yeah, it's entirely plausible geript just has a really hard time realizing how shit his posting is because he's caught up in trying to be a badass (why do so many people here want to be badasses?).
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The eternal question of mafia.
Bad, or scum?
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On February 09 2014 07:57 Corazon wrote: Yeah I really don't feel like defending myself. I'm just gonna wait for Yamato to reply to my message.
Btw, you guys should look into Palmar's vote of Geript. Wouldn't it make a lot of sense for scum to try and rile up Geript for no reason?
On February 09 2014 10:58 Corazon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2014 10:47 marvellosity wrote: Maybe if Palmar does non-geript or better-geript things and rayn tells me where to look, we can get a good lynch. We could always lynch Palmar for going after Geript, because attacking Geript is a pretty easy thing to do as scum.
I really need clarification on this.
I was not trying to rile geript up, I posted facts about what he had done in the game so far and voted for him.
And apparently it's easy to attack him as scum. So by extension should geript be immune to scrutiny as it's too easy to attack him? I don't really know where you're going with this but all I can read from it is that you think that going after geript is a waste of time and shouldn't be done, in fact merely accusing him seems to be scummy.
I'm amazed you allow yourself to think like this.
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in addition @Corazon:
Is there any specific reason you wanted other people to look at me, instead of just doing it yourself and presenting your conclusion?
@Marv: I think you're voting Oats, could you explain to me why?
All I remember about him is that I noted his early question (the very question that started my intrigue into geript) was valid, but a bit "cheap" if you will, ie: it bears no meaning on his alignment, it's not a thoughtful or an analytical question.
I've mostly ignored him since. But I'm all ears.
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On February 09 2014 22:17 marvellosity wrote: I think Koshi is a terrible lynch today
I would agree he's relatively far down my list of people I'd like to lynch.
I'll have more time tonight.
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Just to agree more with people WoS is possibly my strongest town read. The other option is Risen.
Now that's not to say much as I'm having an unusually hard time figuring out townies because not many people are making coherent cases or trains of thought, but yeah.
I would be hard-pressed to want to lynch either today, but compared to strong town reads from other games neither of them is very strong, just better than anything else I have at the moment.
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On February 09 2014 22:35 marvellosity wrote: Do you think i should be reading you as town, Palmar?
Yeah I think so by now. Probably with some reservations, mostly because of activity/lack of interaction with half the thread, but what I've posted is pretty straightforward.
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Tempted to join Oats' wagon on marv just for the delicious drama.
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no one is trolling I think. I don't think oats' reasons for voting you are any worse than your reasons for voting him. if anything his case is slightly better. But I'm all for being convinced.
im off for like 4 hours, or at least only on phone.
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How about my wagon marv? help me instead?
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answer my question before you go cora
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I'm no a huge fan of either wagon atm. I'll admit i haven't read much of kosher
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riaen is town i think. he did some kind of a flip flop that looked somewhat gnuine.
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I already mentioned I think wos is town
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ok I'm back. My reading of the last few pages has been a bit sketchy, but whatever.
I don't think I want to lynch Kosher. Other people I don't want to lynch include WoS, Oats, myself, Risen etc.
I worry about the Cora wagon. I pointed out some inconsistency in his play myself, but his random vote on me there before he switched is really head scratching if he's mafia. Now his is obviously not going to make much sense to anyone but myself, but given how he's been wanting to kill me and been casually calling me out all game, it seems like a strange vote as it makes it more likely he'll flip AND if he flips mafia he's basically confirming me as town.
So knowing my own alignment, his move just doesn't make any sense if he's mafia.
I'd much rather lynch somewhere into geript, marv, VE, rayn, or even holyfare.
I'm unsure about yamato...
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oh and VA, I'll go back and re-read him now. But I just had a look at my initial reads, and I stated he made some good point about mutually exclusive something and that I was a fan of his. So...
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