EPTThis is going to be so confusing.
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Yell0w
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This is going to be so confusing. | ||
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Yell0w
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Wouldn't a better way be to each claim we are RNG voting, then use the RNG on the post in which we claimed it and then vote for whomever our own post said? So that there is no way to know if you're going to lynch someone of your own faction or not so it's riskier for scum to go by RNG? Maybe I'm completely wrong here. | ||
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Yell0w
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On May 21 2014 06:54 Steveling wrote: Yellow's post was so wrong lmao. He basically said that "yeah I know that we rolled a dead schroedingers cat but what if we rolled an alive one?" I'm not sure what that means, but I definitely prefer an alive cat to a dead one. | ||
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Yell0w
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On May 21 2014 06:57 Xatalos wrote: If most players randomed their votes separately, it would just end up with scum getting to choose their preferred lynch. LMAO I disagree, if most people randomed their votes, the ones who didn't would instantly look scummy and we could lynch them tomorrow. Everyone would RNG their votes if most people did it, because they'd know how bad it would make them look otherwise. | ||
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Yell0w
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On May 21 2014 07:07 27ninjabunnies wrote: That was sarcasm btw SHE USED SARCASM! LET'S LYNCH HER! | ||
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Yell0w
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On May 21 2014 07:08 Xatalos wrote: How can you ensure that everyone votes according to RNG? Well, I think I explained it, everyone posts saying they're going to vote by RNG and they use the # of that post to vote, but obviously there is no way to make everyone do it. | ||
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Yell0w
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On May 21 2014 07:24 Steveling wrote: I don't like that personal attack. Keep your thoughts about what's mafia play and what not to yourself. So basically you want the right to be a bad town without people calling you out on it? | ||
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Yell0w
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##Vote: OdinofPergo | ||
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Yell0w
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On May 21 2014 09:05 Holyflare wrote: yellow, he spends like 5 posts trying to say that his rng method is better and then drops it for bh's rng even though he made this post stating the reason he didn't like it: Well I do think my method is better, I'm new to this though and didn't realize at the time that people would be so against a RNG lynch, because obviously my method doesn't work if everyone doesn't do it. | ||
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Yell0w
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Again this post made my brain bleed. Yellow if this is your town play and how you scumhunt then I for towns sake I hope you are the cop so you can get some REAL information and dont have to try these unrealistic tactics to catch scum. I don't get what was wrong with my post or how what you said is relevant to it, someone talked about a situation and I said if that situation happened, we would easily be able to catch scum. Obviously that situation is not going to happen, but I'm not the one who brought it up, so I don't really know what the issue is. | ||
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On May 21 2014 10:13 marvellosity wrote: yes, doing what you do as town is super scummy #logic this game is amazing. Are you kidding me? He did it after he was called out on not doing it, like did you just make a joke or were you being serious? | ||
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Yell0w
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Yell0w
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On May 21 2014 11:55 Cephiro wrote: How is not considering the possibility of someone voting on you being scum completely wild? She literally ignores the possibility of me being scum voting on her, as proved by her own thought process. They were my first posts in the game and I instantly pressured/attacked her. And she didn't even think of the possibility of me being scum. Like literally, all her responses screamed that I was town to her. There is no way she could be that sure I am town by just exchanging a post or two with her by that stage. Care to elaborate on your reasoning why it's a completely wild assumption and debunks the whole case? The problem is there are multiple scum factions, you could both be scum and not know it. | ||
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Yell0w
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On May 21 2014 11:58 austinmcc wrote: Do you think that multiple scum factions makes cephiro's post thought here invalid? Well the argument is that bunnies didn't think cephiro could be scum because she's scum so she knows the other scums, right? But she has no way to know that even if she's scum, so yes I think he didn't think it through. And to answer Hapa, obviously I don't know if there are more than one scummy factions, though it's likely in my opinion and either way, neither does anyone right? So, still, bunnies had no way to know that cephiro wasn't scum, which is the whole argument. | ||
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Yell0w
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On May 21 2014 12:06 Steveling wrote: About yellow, since you guys are on it, notice how he jumped on me 2 pages back. Really suspicious. I don't know how that's suspicious, I've hated the way you've been posting since the start of the game, I just didn't comment on it because I hoped you would stop talking. | ||
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Yell0w
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@Sqrt Look at what Yellow has said since then. Hes super on board with the random lynch and gives up on his idea. He throws dirt on Steve when someone comes in and tells him to stop shitting up the thread (I think steve is town so no on that) + Show Spoiler + This screams of TMI like how do you know there are multiple scum factions could be town + scum + third party shenanigans? @yellow I voted you because of the above and other minor interjections where you're saying "wow that looks scummy of you" basically nudging a wagon into happening instead of actually pressuring someone with voting and a case sounds more like you're pointing people to be like "hey look boys X did something scummy what do we do?" like a not get your hands dirty type of play. So first of all, I don't get how thinking a random lynch is a good idea is in way alignment indicative and I still think Steve is probably town, but his play has been very anti-town, talking a lot and saying absolutely nothing except that HF was mafia for no reasons. This whole me thinking there are multiple scum factions is kind of a silly argument, I just think it's the most likely scenario, don't see how that makes me scum. As far as I know, most possible 3rd party roles are anti town, so they're scum. Hm, I guess if I am a 3rd party anti-town myself I would know there are at least one other scum faction, maybe the argument isn't as silly as I first thought. I think the second part refers to what I said about Slam, I just thought him acting the way someone said he does when he's town is something a scum player would do, I don't know what was wrong with me pointing it out. I don't know if he is scum or not, clearly others know him and know how to read him, so I'm going to let them read him because I certainly have no idea. And the other person who voted against me was BlueyD, he said: Yellow’s is just... -a lot of rng discussion with very few reads, -that switch from “BH’s method doesn’t work well” to “okay let’s do it”, and the general fact he’s for rng lynch -mentions the fact that there are multiple scum factions twice and seems to think it’s important. - and there’s at least one gem of defensive thought right here: Once again assuming a random lynch is scummy, which I still don't get, and the issue with BH's method isn't that it doesn't work well, it's just that it's not as RNG as it could be since people know what they're voting for before voting, I asked questions about it since this is my second game and no one brought it up in my first game and I wanted to know people's thoughts on it. Nobody really answered though, people either said my idea was good or it was bad, without saying why, no one answered my questions about BH's method and the general idea I got from the thread is that RNG lynches are just not fun, which I don't think is a good argument. So I thought about it some more and came to the conclusion his method was the best RNG method since people aren't willing to random their votes. I didn't really see it as a contradiction, even though everyone seems to think it was, I wasn't fully against it in my first post, I just asked some questions about it and then thought about it and concluded it was fine. I already talked about the multiple scums faction thing, but yes I do think what the other factions are is important, why would it not be important? And I don't get your last point at all. I'm town here guys, I don't think I did anything scummy, I especially didn't like BlueyD's case, I think it was really weak, like because I talked about RNG I'm scum, that doesn't make sense to me. Anyways, I'm gonna give my general reads a bit later, I still need to catch up to the thread though, I didn't give any reads earlier because it's hard when everyone knows each other and knows each other's plays when I don't, I'm worried I'll say silly things and call someone suspicious for doing what everyone knows is his town game, but I'll definitely give reads on the people I played with. | ||
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Yell0w
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Bunnies: leaning town, I didn't think the case against her was good at all. She hasn't been as obviously townie as she was last game, but she still seemed town to me, trying to figured out the game and gave reads. Sqrt: leaning town, my only issue with him is while I don't think he's been scummy at all, he hasn't been the town sqrt I know from last game, he either changed his game to not get mislynched again or he's not town, I'm leaning towards the former. meat: null, basically did the same thing he did last game where he was town, but he could be doing it because he knows people who read that game won't lynch him for it. ritoky: leaning scum, he hasn't posted enough for me to think he isn't, just made big posts to make it seems like he's contributing to town instead of actively participating in the thread like he did last game. tamburini: scum, I didn't like the big post he made, it all seemed like fluff, he was basically just giving his gut reads on people as he was reading the thread, which is pretty much useless to anyone but him. He's been very different from the game I played with him where he was town. I thought I'd have more time to do this but my friend showed up and wants to play chess, but for now, with tamburini, my biggest scum read is jampidampi and biggest town reads are poofter and hapa. | ||
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Yell0w
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And Marv, are you saying we should lynch you tomorrow if we lynch tamburini today and she flips town? | ||
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Yell0w
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On May 22 2014 21:40 marvellosity wrote: Where on earth did you get that from? O.o Oh wait, you said both day 1 and 2, sorry my bad. | ||
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Yell0w
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On May 22 2014 21:48 jampidampi wrote: Yell0w, what do you think about layabout? Oh, I definitely disagree with you, I thought he seemed genuine when I first read it and again when you reposted it, it's actually a reaction I could see myself having if something like that happened to me. So I don't think that makes him scum at all. | ||
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Yell0w
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I don't think that makes him scum, I think there was a clear progression in his filter from the case his bad, to the case is good after more points where made, to voting for tamburini. | ||
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Yell0w
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On May 22 2014 21:59 kitaman27 wrote: Could you show me the posts that back that up? Well the first post you quoted was after only Hapa made the case that tamburini's big post was scummy, which obviously blueyD thought was a weak case, then foolishness made a case, Hapa posted more about it and blueyD said: Whew, back to this. Strongest thing I’ve seen in the last 30 or so pages is this. burini is looking like a decent lynch at the moment. On May 22 2014 07:02 Hapahauli wrote: Just to add to this though, I found this post which is all sorts of WAT: Show nested quote + Furthermore, the bolded comment is incredibly strange, given that yellow flipped town in the game in-question. You'd think she would exhibit more pause after wanting to lynch a townie for similar rationale, but instead she bolsters her suspicions with it... that just makes very little sense from a town perspective. | ||
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Yell0w
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On May 22 2014 22:06 marvellosity wrote: Is Bluey's filter long enough that kita should miss that sort of thing? :/ It's a whole page plus 2 posts. | ||
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Yell0w
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On May 22 2014 22:08 marvellosity wrote: It was a rhetorical question, dearest. What I was saying was "kitaman shouldn't have missed that, or at least brought it up and explained it if he's gonna vote for the dude" Yeah I understood you. | ||
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Yell0w
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And about kush, I didn't think the case against him was that great, it's just a meta case, and while it's not necessarily a bad case either, I found it really weird that so many people jumped on him so fast after the case. Personally, if someone is trying to make me believe someone else is mafia, I at least read the other person's filter and try to make my own opinion before agreeing, which some of them clearly didn't do. I'm not saying they're mafia here, I'm just saying they should be better town and not all sheep someone they don't even know the alignment of. I thought the case against BlueyD was more convincing, especially since he is one of the person who just sheeped foolishness' case without adding anything. It does seem like he read the filter, but I think that's exactly what a mafia would do to make it look like he's scumhunting. That was the case against him by kita, he's just looking for a person to vote for, not actually scumhunting, and that's what he did here, again. Also I think jampidampi seems scummy, but I'm gonna wait for him to follow up on his intentions to push a tamburini lynch today. | ||
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Yell0w
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On May 24 2014 23:40 marvellosity wrote: What points towards town for you in kush's filter then, yellow? That's what you seem to be implying. I'm sorry if I led you to believe that. | ||
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Yell0w
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Done. | ||
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Yell0w
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On May 25 2014 00:50 marvellosity wrote: Well the net of it is, you're complaining about people not having an opinion on kush, while sidestepping having one yourself. If you don't think the case is that great, you should have reasons not to lynch him, or are you just randomly bitching at people joining a wagon when you don't have a proper opinion on the player in question? But I'm not complaining at them because they don't have an opinion, I'm "bitching" because, while not having an opinion on the person, they voted against him. I don't think the case is that great, that's my reason not to lynch him, I think we have better candidates. | ||
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Yell0w
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