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On May 21 2014 12:40 Cephiro wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 12:17 27ninjabunnies wrote:
I figured the calling me mafia was where you were going with this post. I was interested in seeing what you posted, and I have to say, I'm quite impressed. However, there are many things you are wrong within this point. Allow me to point them out. I'll also give some feedback here and there, so if my explanations seems a bit out of order, I apologize.
1) Yes, I am a cooperative person. I'm not going to be completely BM towards a person or fight over things within this forum. I don't find that productive in finding mafia. What is odd to me is why you would start an exchange with me based on me being "cooperative".
1) So this is clearly a correct assumption made by me. I started an exchange with you because since I had my suspicions on you, I knew I would be able to interact with you in the way I wanted to. If you suddenly turned extremely uncooperative to my questions, it would make you look really bad in contrast to your earlier play, and you have pointed out you don't want to be read as scum very clearly. Basically, you were forced by yourself to answer my questions, so I decided to make the best out of it.
2) They say honesty is the best policy. I agree, being scum it is hard to be completely honest, actually impossible! I wasn't admitting annoyance to being called out on a play, I said I was annoyed by his play, specifically him claiming I was avoiding what he was asking, which in my opinion, I don't think I was avoiding. I ended up giing my reasons and reads anyway, so people bringing this up makes little sense to me.
2) It is actually not true, you never followed up with your reasons for Steveling/WaveOfShadow/Thepoofter. You quickly changed to agree that Steve is likely town on based what others posted. Nothing on Wave/Thepoofter, so this is a flat-out lie. You didn't give your reasons for thinking they are scum yet. I would be fine if you were "still looking for more to be certain", but claiming you gave reasons when you didn't? That's a flat-out lie, and you're scum for it. Still makes no sense why people bring it up?
3) No one wants to be read as scum. If I'm read as town, that's less likely there will be a mislynch on me, and actual mafia could be found. If there are any suspicions on me because of a certain read I made that made no sense, then that takes town off the agenda of finding mafia and having to discern whether or not I am town.
3) Certainly true. However, is it more important to a) Find scum or b) Not like like scum. You show great interest in contributing and trying to find scum when you really haven't done anything to show us that's the case, whereas you constantly go on about how you don't want to be read as scum. Certainly, defending yourself is important, but it won't be enough alone to just try and fend off pressure from yourself. Find a more preferable lynch target if you don't want to be on the block.
4) Just because I didn't post so in my posts, doesn't mean I am not thinking ahead. It was obvious from your initial post on me that you were reading me as scum. I wanted your reasons as to why. You hop in this thread with many other questioning going on, and single me out, and I figured you must have a reason to do so, thinking I am mafia. I did consider that you didn't have agood read from me from what I had posted within the forum in previous pages, but usually when someone votes you, you think, oh this person must think I'm mafia. What is he seeing that I nor others are seeing? You asked specifically 2 questions. And I answered those two questions. Just because I didn't answer beyond "the box" of what you wanted me to does not mean I am not thinking ahead or means I am mafia. I just refused to give you further information until you gave me information, which you did not until your huge post.
4) My last question already proved my point of you not being a player that downplays themselves. If you had thought as far ahead, you would've shown that in your posts. We already talked about you being honest. Also fits within your nature to not downplay yourself -> show what your honestly capable of. Again, I don't think you are scum for not thinking ahead. It was just a step I needed to figure so I could analyse your following responses based on if you are able to do that or not. All the questions support each other to the extent I have no reason to believe that you downplayed and were actually thinking far ahead of the scope of the situation we're currently in. So again, I do not think you're mafia for not thinking ahead, I think you are mafia for answering the way you did. (As pointed out in my case).
5) I don't question whether you are scum here yet because of these reasons: if you were scum, why would you single me out out of many other people who could lead harder on you or your partners? I admit I'm not leading town in any direction, nor pushing an agenda. I speak out where I feel is necessary and give reads on which I think is necessary. It's also only early in day 1, and if I have a better scum read, I could push elsewhere, as I stated in my response to you. I also specifically said I didn't know what your alignment was. Your alignment is yet to be determined.
5) You can say things all you want, but all your posts clearly pointed towards reading me as town. As you already said yourself, I have very little reason to do this to you if I was scum. So basically what you're saying is that you agree that the play I did is very likely to come from town? (Which wouldn't necessarily be the case.)
6) I am a good mafia player because I am confident in my reads. Because I push an agenda when I feel I have one. If I don't have a good read on anyone or any certainty, why would I push on a read and mislead town? Its counterproductive. I also asked for your read on me again and again, because you kept saying you would provide it, but then continue to ask me questions. I honestly don't care why you read me as scum. I care why you think I am scum. If you have good reads behind it, then so be it. But you don't. You are basing your entire read on our interactions, and not my interactions, reads, and plays I have made in previous pages of this forum.
6) Pushing on a read even if it's an uncertain one doesn't mean it's misleading town. I could be wrong on you, but I believe I am not. In that small chance of you being town, there is a lot of productive discussion to come from my push on you, do you not agree? I based most of my read on our interactions since that is exactly where I aimed to gain the affirmative thoughts of whether you are mafia or not. Turns out that they point towards you being one. If I thought you were town after those, there wouldn't be a case like this on you right now. Your previous reads and plays are basically nonexistant, like I proved in my point 2. You still haven't followed up on the reads you were asked to tell about, yet claim you have. This is a lie, and does not fit with your honest playstyle. You're a caught scum.
My replies in bolded. Read, she's still scum. Flat out lying in some of her statements, and some of her points just agree with mine, rather than contradicting them.
Ugh, tbh. You annoy me to no end. And my eyes hurt.
Let me refute each of your points once again.
1) Yes, it was correct. I agreed that I am cooperative. Would you rather me go. "NO YOU ARE WRONG. LIKE OHEMGEE SO WRONG! LIKE I CAN'T EVEN BELIEVE THIS." Uh no, I'm not like that. I'm not going to be BM, I'm not going to cause problem. And, So you are basically saying, you are manipulating me into responding how you want me to respond and then calling me scum for you asking leading questions that work in your favor. Congratulations. I wasn't forced into being cooperative. I can choose to be cooprative or not. I chose to be. It had nothing to do with you.
2) I didn't give specific reasonings on any of them because I didn't have specific reasonings. They were mostly because of a gut read and the theory that I had that mafia would be really active in the first couple of pages to come off as townie. I however, did give reads on two other people, Thrawn and Jampi and gave reads behind them. So, no, I'm not scum because of not giving my reads on them when I didn't have set reads.
3) I am questioning certain things, calling people who I think are scum, scum. But I'm not pushing. That's not how I get my reads. I like to read into interactions, plays, and other people's reads. Like I said, when I am certain on someone I will push that someone. Most of the conversation, however, at the beginning was about the RNG play, and then HF, Steve, and whoever the other person was being BM to each other, something I'm not all that into.
4) I don't think I'm reading your case very well. I'll reread again and comment on it later.
5) I don't see how my posts are anywhere indicitive of YOUR alignment, or what I am reading as your alignment. I wanted to know your thoughts and line of thinking before I jumped to that conclusion. If my posts came off as me thinking you were town, that wasn't my intention. Nor was it my intention for my posts to come off as me thinking you were mafia. I wanted to be objective when reading you, especially since you immediately hop into the forum and single me out. I think you could be town making this play, but you could also be mafia. I don't want to base the read ust off of what you think of me, because that is a biasy. There are 30 other players outside of just us.
6) You're right, pushing a wrong read isn't always necessarily bad. But I've gotten lynched in games because of "bad" reads and wrong reads. Especially in a game this big, I'm more hesitant. And the fact it's a closed setup. Maybe I shouldn't be so cautious, cause sometimes I'm not, but I don't have any solid reads to be able to afford to be wrong.
Now for this post:
+ Show Spoiler +On May 21 2014 12:55 Cephiro wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 12:23 Tehpoofter wrote:What should she have answered to be TOWN? Like i see you did that thing as mafia but if you ask a question and there are no right answers the questions are flawed. I think thats how you played this interaction. Yellow is the first one to analyse btw. And just for the record glad you're not just making one giant post and fucking off like the other games we've played. Coming out swinging I like although I don't like this post  Alright, so again. The questions weren't aimed to directly affirm her as mafia or town, but her thought process. The first question was about if she thinks ahead or not. Whether she does or not doesn't make her mafia or town. The second question was to see her thought process if she thought ahead (because the first question made me assured she doesn't, not too far at least.). Her reply: Show nested quote +If you don't consider me as mafia, you shouldn't be voting me.
The only reason outside of you considering me as mafia for why you would vote for me is this: you want to get a read on me via my reactions to your voting on me to see if I react poorly or more town favored. This is only used if you don't have a read on me from what I've previously posted.
This can also lead to reads from other people if they begin questioning you or agreeing with you.
So again, why are you reading me as mafia? The main point here is the interaction between the first and last statement. It can easily be seen that she thinks that I consider her mafia, which is correct. Now, you're in a situation where a player is voting on you, asking you questions, since they think you are mafia. 1) Why would you at this point be fairly certain about that player being town, and not point out the possibility of him being scum? 2) Why is your first thought to find the reasons why you are suspected? If I am scum in that situation, my first thought (if I don't know already) is the reason why I'm being suspected. Even if I salvage the situation, if I'm dumb enough to make the mistake again, I will get #rekt. Which is why Step 1) Identify the reason you are being suspected Step 2) Prove why that reason is invalid Step 3) Ascertain your position by providing pro-town (or pro-town looking) content Step 4) Mislynch townies If I'm town and I'm being called scum, I instantly know it's because: 1) Someone is making conclusions that might be logical, but still untrue 2) Scum is pushing me for mislynch, or just trying to discredit my thread presence. Her thoughts are much more aligned with the way a scum thinks in this situation (in my opinion). The third question is to affirm that she isn't of the downplaying kind = she doesn't intentionally hide information to make herself look a worse player than what she is. Rather the opposite, she talks about how confident she is in her mafia-playing abilities. This makes me not believe her claims of having really thought ahead (which again is irrelevant, her response on the other hand is relevant.). These factors combined with the rest of her play like I pointed out, make me feel strongly certain about her being mafia rather than town. If you feel like I didn't elaborate on a point enough, do say and I'll explain further.
Like I said, I don't care why you think I'm scum. I wanted to make sure YOU knew why you thought I was scum. Of course I'm going to refute the reads that you have wrong on me, cause that is what you do as town, you show why you are town. Now if I had asked, "What exactly did I do that made me seem scummy, or what should I have done to not seem scummy?" then I would understand why you are pushing that agenda on me. But I specifically asked you what your reasons were, as you basically gave nothing, but just cntinued to ask me questions.
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Okay, I am taking a mini break to shower and refresh my brain cause it hurts at the moment! If you have any questions, ask away! I'll be up for a bit longer, so I'll respond when I get back!
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On May 21 2014 13:41 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 13:38 ritoky wrote:
holy crap that was a long read. i felt like i was never going to catch up to it.
i feel like there is a lot of jokes and interactions between people who have played together a lot that went wayyyyy over my head in the first few pages.
right now I am having a little bit of trouble organizing my thoughts because there is just a lot of stuff.
the two largest things that i noticed are:
1) 27ninjabunnies talks a whole lot about herself. I am kinda gonna sheep tamburini's reads on bunnies. I read a post and I am neutral, then I read the next one and I find it defensive and with 1 million I's in it, which puts me off. Then I read the next one and I am back to neutral. Idk, it just leaves me a bit skeptical because last game I played with her she was oozing town out of her pores it was so obvious, and the fact that I don't have that feeling right now gives me pause and concern. That said, she is contributing and typing seriously which is significantly more than most people (including myself) have done thus far.
2) I find the people who were highly opposed to the RNG lynch on day 1 questionable. Especially those who said things along the lines of "I think I am better than RNG". I think if you say that on day 2 you can sell me quite a bit on it, as I would not be in favor of an RNG lynch on any day after day 1. Usually there is enough information to make singinifcantly informed guesses by that point in the game. But when you say something along the lines of being "better than RNG" on day 1, it makes me think that you have more information than I do. Which very likely means that you are scum.
I have to do a couple things unexpectedly now and should be back in an hour or so to contribute more, but for now my I will at least leave my top town and scum read.
Top town: Meapak
Top scum: waveofshadow someone do some research and tell me if his top town and top scum reads align with points 1 and 2
Why not research yourself instead of having others do it for you, and then sheep off their read?
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On May 21 2014 13:42 Steveling wrote:
Black is so good.
Isn't that the color mafia usually wears?
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On May 21 2014 13:45 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 13:45 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 21 2014 13:41 thrawn2112 wrote:On May 21 2014 13:38 ritoky wrote:
holy crap that was a long read. i felt like i was never going to catch up to it.
i feel like there is a lot of jokes and interactions between people who have played together a lot that went wayyyyy over my head in the first few pages.
right now I am having a little bit of trouble organizing my thoughts because there is just a lot of stuff.
the two largest things that i noticed are:
1) 27ninjabunnies talks a whole lot about herself. I am kinda gonna sheep tamburini's reads on bunnies. I read a post and I am neutral, then I read the next one and I find it defensive and with 1 million I's in it, which puts me off. Then I read the next one and I am back to neutral. Idk, it just leaves me a bit skeptical because last game I played with her she was oozing town out of her pores it was so obvious, and the fact that I don't have that feeling right now gives me pause and concern. That said, she is contributing and typing seriously which is significantly more than most people (including myself) have done thus far.
2) I find the people who were highly opposed to the RNG lynch on day 1 questionable. Especially those who said things along the lines of "I think I am better than RNG". I think if you say that on day 2 you can sell me quite a bit on it, as I would not be in favor of an RNG lynch on any day after day 1. Usually there is enough information to make singinifcantly informed guesses by that point in the game. But when you say something along the lines of being "better than RNG" on day 1, it makes me think that you have more information than I do. Which very likely means that you are scum.
I have to do a couple things unexpectedly now and should be back in an hour or so to contribute more, but for now my I will at least leave my top town and scum read.
Top town: Meapak
Top scum: waveofshadow someone do some research and tell me if his top town and top scum reads align with points 1 and 2 Why not research yourself instead of having others do it for you, and then sheep off their read? i dont want to reread this thread
Look at filters then. I still don't like your not contributing much.
Others are reading threads, trying to find mafia, and questioning things.
You want everyone else to do your dirty work for you.
How exactly is that town?
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On May 21 2014 13:55 Steveling wrote:
I kinda want to trust her.
Mby because she's the only girl in teh game and I'll feel bad if we lynch her, lol.
Well, Tamburini is a girl, too.
Also, did you know that lynching/killing a girl in online games is considered rape?
Cause you are overpowering them.
Confirmed don't rape me this game guys.
![[image loading]](http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Men+s+Rights_df9557_4775513.jpg)
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So I think I have scum here and willing to push this case:
[red]THRAWN IS MAFIA[/red
And here is why.
Thrawn comes into the game 7 pages later with this.
On May 21 2014 06:34 thrawn2112 wrote:
hello!
On May 21 2014 06:54 thrawn2112 wrote:
this going to be difficult
Then when I question him on it, says he'll post when he has something to say.
Well he has said quite a few things, and I believe none of them to be any where near town.
-Says if there are masons, they should "hit him up"
-Asks holyflare if he is town, then gives him a 4/10, then pushes no further on this. Gives us no reads on it. Though he did push a little with his questioning after on why holyflare is obvious town, but still, his posting is inadequate.
- Wants to push on cav, but goes nowhere with it and states the reason why he is going nowhere on that is because Cav knows what he is doing. Well what exactly is he doing?
- Asked about reads on yell0w and geript, initially gives one sentence for each. Though he does expand on his read on yell0w just a bit, but imo, not even close enough.
- Asks others to do homework for him, stating he doesn't want to read the thread. HOW IN ANY WAY IS THIS TOWN? He can just sheep off of other people's reads.
In other words, everything about thrawn's filter to me is inadequate.
##Vote: Thrawn2112
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On May 21 2014 14:15 BlueyD wrote:
lol, thrawn's early D1 play is not alignment-indicative, I covered this.
he had the same kind of awful play early D1 last game I played with him.
picked it up later and ended up being town MVP.
redirect your attention somewhere else for now, if he fails to show up later in the game then he'll be suspicious.
So just because he did the same last game, it can carry over to this game?
So we let him slide for being scummy?
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On May 21 2014 14:20 thrawn2112 wrote:
whatever i'm just going to afk until there's something worth talking about
Again how is this pro town?
While I agree that there's some things that aren't worth talking about, much has been discussed that are probably worth talking about!
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On May 21 2014 14:24 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 14:21 Holyflare wrote:On May 21 2014 14:20 thrawn2112 wrote:
whatever i'm just going to afk until there's something worth talking about why not just... make something to talk about? it's not how I like to play D1. u can call me scum or complaign about it but this is just how it's going to be. like blue said, if I don't step up during the last half of D1 then yeah I deserve whatever I get. but that's not gonna happen so there won't be any problem.
I still don't like this.
Just because someone says you are gonna step up your game, you are going to have to, regardless of your alignment to not seem scummy.
This basically does nothing for me.
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Very well: but I'm keeping my vote where it is, and everyone is going to have to just deal with that.
I can respect everyone has different play and way they get their reads, so I guess I'll just have to wait until you step up your game later in order to get a better read on you.
And with that, I'm off for the night. I'll check forum a bit before work tomorrow, and be more active after work, so if you don't hear from me for awhile, that's why.
See you gentlemen later!
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Okay. So I'm going to make a post before I head into work and will read up some more when I get back.
So I've had suspicion on Thrawn since he posted in the thread. I gave my reasons as to why, because of the lack of posting and stubborness. People claim that's usual town Thrawn, and I've agreed to leave it alone until he starts posting and I can get a better read on him. But saying that me putting suspicion on thrawn just to avoid suspicion on me is ridiculous. I STILL have suspicion on me, and my suspicion on thrawn was stated well before tamburini had even made that read on me.
Now I read through the filter of some people I think should be pertinent to right now: layabout, Slam, Cav, and Bkq.
I also notice these are people with very little contribution (imo) and filter.
First off, Let's start with BKQ
So his initial post into the thread I didn't really like.
On May 21 2014 06:47 bkqyrldp wrote:Nice. The game has just started and there is already many people I dislike. I guess that's to be expected in a game with 4 factions. Steveling is the first one for asking a neutral filler question, followed then by xatalos and marvelocity grabbing that opportunity to provide an easy fake contribution. From those 2 I dislike marvelocity the most, since xatalos was already there bantering, so I'll read less into his response for now. The other person is meapak_ziph. Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 06:13 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
wait there are four factions in this game?
Guess I might as well read the op then.
Wave that was a mighty suspicious post, sounds like you're trying to make excuses for future bad play... He came into the thread with a weak confusion comment and something that didn't need to be said. Your post is basically the last line, which is pretty weak if your intent is to gather info from wave. What's up Marv, steve, MZ?
Basically, BKQ did the same that MZ did, imo. He comes into the thread with something that didn't need to be said- the four factions thing. However he does a bit more than MZ by expanding on who he dislikes. In his later posts he doesn't really expand any more on these reads, so I would like to hear more of what he things about MZ, Steve, and Marv now.
The Marv/BKQ interaction is pretty interesting, especially since Marv is calling BKQ out for saying that his response to Steve was suspicious (I looked through the filter and couldn't exactly pinpoint what they are talking about, so I can discuss this later when I do.)
Other than that, BKQ hasn't done much for me that indicates town or mafia, so I'll fence him for now.
BKQ, I'd still like you to expand your reads on MZ, Steve, and Marv now that they have each talked a lot more.
Now onto Cav
Out of all his posts, the one on Steveling is most substantial- not that I agree with any of it.
On May 21 2014 15:05 Cavalinho wrote:StevelingCut out all the spam, and you're left with stuff like this: Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 13:00 Steveling wrote:Damn, that's true.
But how do I fix this? What the fu-? Who asks questions like this belittling themselves? This question makes 0 sense if you're town. It makes people ignore you and talk down to you...But it makes perfect sense if you're mafia. It makes other people feel smart. Feel superior. His filter actually has more of the same: More meek statements meant to get people to ignore him and make them think he's helpful to the town. Worthless to make as town, especially in a huge game like this. But they make a lot of sense when you're actually mafia and you're trying to get by. Now here are some different posts: Show nested quote +Yes you literally only won because of my bad play as town right?
Not because NO ONE, LITERALLY NO ONE VOTED FOR A SCUM IN ALL 3 DAYS.
Oh wait, except me. Show nested quote +Yeah but you may be on of them and trying to buddy me again like last game. FU, xD Nothing really special about posts like these. These are all about last game, so it seems like he's contributing information without actually doing anything at all. Without wanting to actually quote everything in the universe, the fifth page of his filter is almost nothing but filler. The bad kind of filler that makes people think that they belong when, in reality, they're just posting enough to get by and seem town. Also, I never said Steveling was "ignoring" people, quite the contrary. I believe his intent is to get people to ignore him. And also, Steveling is my second choice of lynch. My third, fourth, and fifth choices are somehow Steveling as well.
I do find it weird that Steveling was all "How can I make my posts better?" type of thing. As town, why do you care? You are town. You should be more concerned with finding mafia, and not about self image -
+ Show Spoiler +Hey, maybe I should follow my own advice here!
But I agree, these posts by Steve seem super filler, and not any way contributing to finding mafia. However, I think there are posts that were very good that Steve posted- such as the interaction between him and HF (even if it was a BM match). I can expand on Steveling later when I have time to read his filter.
As for Cav, he also hasn't done much for me, but I wouldn't lynch him today.
Slam
So the main focus from Slam is geript's read on him. Geript really thinks he has a great read on Slam, and that's Slam is scum.
However, ignoring Geript's meta read and going off of my own, Slam coming in and asking what page the game started n is neither mafia or town for me or well both). If you are town, you want to know where to start and read. If you are mafia, you also want to know where to start or read, so geript's case based on that seems weak, and I don't use this in anyway of my read on slam.
Slam came off a bit trolly to geript's push on him, posting the pictures, etc. He seems calm and not even in the slightest bit worried about Geript's push on him.
Slam's posting also contribute of 3 pages of filter of one or two sentences of posting, nt sure if this is alignment indicative, but it's very strange to me.
But then again sqrt did the same thing last game, and he was town(then again they are two different people), but the not contributing much to me is weird.
Also, sorry slam for my posting. I didn't mean to offend any one. If any one could understand it's me, and maybe I should have thought better before posting that. Everyone has a past, and I super apologize for offending you in any way.
In short, Slam's post is mostly filler, not leading conversation anywhere. I'd actually probably follow Geript today and vote on him.
Layabout
Who is this guy? Tbh, I dont like him, and I don't really have a set reason. Something just doesn't sit right with me on him. His rant on Steveling being destructive with his posting is...eh... not sure why he posted that.
Im keeping my eye on him, but I don't have anything more to say.
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So if anyone wants anything from me, I'll see it all after work. Was hoping there was some posting going on before I left!
See you gentlemen in 6 hours!!!!
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Just got off of work!!!
Read a bit through the forum while I was working, but going to quickly reread it again, so it'll be about 15-20mins to look through everything. If there is anything you want me to focus on, let me know.
Also, BH. Wtf? You claim a BLUE role when only 3 votes on you?
How...stupid... is .... that....
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Okay, my posting may seem to be a bit on the train of thought style- so It may seem out of order, or include random nonsense.
+ Show Spoiler +On May 22 2014 00:16 bkqyrldp wrote:When early on in the first day I always like to look how players enter the thread. I find it that mafia has a hard time writing the first couple posts and they often look artificial and forced. I stand by my marv read so far. I think it's more likely he enterss the thread like that as scum than town, and his unwarrated anger after he got called out doesn't read natural either. The rest of his filter is really uninspiring for someone who has been on the thread for basically the whole game, even if you are just skimming. He is bickering on irrelevant points and not asking the right questions, which further enforces my feeling he might be mafia. The level of confidence he later uses to say that we are scum for questioning him on his entering post is also way off. That said I'm willing to give him a pass for today, because even if he isn't town aligned he is capable of uncovering other mafia and if he is town aligned it's a shame to mislynch him in the first day. Also there is a chance that he atracts a bullet too as any alignment so lynching him today is not the highest ev. I still feel a bit uneasy about MZ, but wouldn't lynch today either. I think his posting improved a bit after the the first couple. And speaking of entering the thread as scum, after I reread the thread jampi caught my attention: Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 06:05 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 06:04 Xatalos wrote:
Oh yeah, there were multiple factions in this game. Should we agree on NK targets in-thread? How about we agree on killing you? Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 06:09 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 06:08 Xatalos wrote:On May 21 2014 06:05 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 06:04 Xatalos wrote:
Oh yeah, there were multiple factions in this game. Should we agree on NK targets in-thread? How about we agree on killing you? By "we", do you mean the thread or your scum faction? Right back at you: who do you refer to by "we"? Your faction? All of us? Non-town factions? Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 06:14 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 06:13 Xatalos wrote:On May 21 2014 06:09 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 06:08 Xatalos wrote:On May 21 2014 06:05 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 06:04 Xatalos wrote:
Oh yeah, there were multiple factions in this game. Should we agree on NK targets in-thread? How about we agree on killing you? By "we", do you mean the thread or your scum faction? Right back at you: who do you refer to by "we"? Your faction? All of us? Non-town factions? I referred to every possible scum faction back there. So you are scum? Nice to know. This string of quotes don't look natural at all. As I've said when you enter the thread as scum you have to force yourrself into a mindset and it often looks a bit off. In this case the level of aggression and "scumhunting" which are normally characteristics of a townie are way over the top and forced, thus I feel there is a strong chance jampi is scum.
So when leaving the thread earlier, I asked BKQ to expand a bit on his read of marv, Steve, and MZ, and his response seemed pretty townie to me. His expansion on his Marv read is something to look at. I'll need to read Marv's filter to see if his read makes sense, but it seems as if it does. He didn't give a read on Steve, and his MZ read was still unsupported imo. The thing about Jampi seems to make a bit of sense as well.
The thing that I don't like about BKQ is that all of his reads in this post were based off of how the person entered the thread, and didn't really focus on anything they said after -such as Jampi questioning on me (something people have used in their reads- or MZs interactions with others in the thread.
I like yell0ws read here. I like how he is willing to address the ones he has played with before. This gives those who haven't played with any of those more insight. However, these reads are based on last game too. I want yell0w to expand on why Jampi is scum, and why he trs poofter and hapa.
As geript, poofter, and I have stated- tamburini is a girl. + Show Spoiler +DAMMIT HOLYFLARE. Don't lie to everyone!
On the sqrt thing- sqrt posted very short and straight to the point reads. Usually they had some backing to them. He also cluttered the newbie forum by posting back to back, so him not posting often and atleast trying to direct conversation is leaning more scum towards me. I know he claims it is because of how big this game is, but still. I feel as if he could contribute more.
Finally, Odin makes an appearance into the thread. And I want to lynch him. Not because of the RNG thing, but his initial post seems crazy to me. And that OMGUS on BH. I mean, that's fine and whatever, he says his reasons as to why, but Idk, just something doesn't sit right with me abut him.
Hapa is town for me. I'll look more through hapa's filter to be sure later- but hapa's reads on tamburini this game are spot on to what I was thinking- and the point he brings up about tamburini wanting to kill yell0w, and wanting to kill me for the same thing- when yell0w flipped town is a compelling argument.
I forgot there was an austin in this game.
I'll leave you with this until I can read some more. I'm on page like... 68 or something.
also, the BH thing. I see your point. It can confuse scum. But it just seemed really odd to me that he did it at THAT point.
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I absolutely love being read as scum It's amazing!
So more reads from page 68 and on.
Sqrt calling Xat obvtown is weird to me. Even Xat questions that read (which I found hilarious). Even when sqrt responds to Xat, all he does is quote things Xat said. But what in those posts point to Xat as town? I just don't understand where Sqrt is on this?
Steveling permanently green stamped me. Whuuuuutttt. I'm flattered though
I'm still not anywhere near impressed with Thrawn. He comes in and asks odin if they have played together, then leaves... What? Where is the amazing late day 1 plays that everyone has been talking about?
Geript wanting to lynch BH is pretty brave, even with the claim -well claim from both of them...and slip? eh confused on that-.
I want to know why Kush thinks that hapa is pretending to be town.
I haven't really focused really on Valenius- I'll read his filter later. but I do like his post here. Seriously, the Slam thing was the best. I'd prob sheep this guy just from this post. But then again, I haven't read the rest of his filter. Also Valenius I did not mean for my post to sound contradictory. More active mafia tend to last lnger than lurker mafia. However, because active mafia post more, you have a better chance of finding slips there (that is why I said I focus on activity as well as the lurkers.)
So after all this( I'm currently up to page 75ish), I'd lynch these people today: Tamburini, Thrawn, Jampi, Layabout, Sqrt, Slam, Geript, . Possibly in that order.
I think that covers mostly everything, yeah?
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Can someone tell me what's with Geript and the Scumeling thing?
I suppose he is referring to Steveling here?
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On May 22 2014 08:35 BlueyD wrote:
Okay, I'm gonna read the 25 pages of thread I missed and have dinner, in no particular order, for a while.
Anything in particular I should pay attention to?
Can you give a read on Ritoky, austin, and vale?
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On May 22 2014 07:07 Hapahauli wrote:Gealwkefjalskdjfawef why do people keep calling him "she"?
Don't listen to HF. he has no idea what he is tlaking about.
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And I'm finally caught up in reading! should be a lt easier to keep up now.
I don't think my newbie game reached anywhere near this many pages.....
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