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+ Show Spoiler +On May 23 2014 03:48 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2014 03:45 mtamburini wrote:I Vote:: tehpoofterwhy? No one else has and I can be the first one to say in post game if he is scum to say I TOLD YOU SO MOFOS harharharhar ##vote: mtamburniLet's play a game! I'm gonna give you a person. You're going tell me the towniest thing in their filter, the scummiest thing in your filter, and what you think their spirit animal is. You're also going to ignore that the previous sentence was grammatically incorrect and should have had "his/her" instead of their. VALENIUS! gogogo You can do the same to me when you return.
Town
+ Show Spoiler +On May 22 2014 04:15 Valenius wrote:Onegu, that's terrible; Really hope it get's better quickly. I'm not sure how many posts, and this applies for all of you 'vets', are serious and how many are little in jokes between yourselves.. so if I miss out something it's probably because i didnt want to make a read based on something that could be common in your games. Make sense? As always with me, i just read through filters. Backtracking thread is too hard. So.. + Show Spoiler +Yell0w.+ Show Spoiler +Despite how much everyone seems to hate the whole RNGesus plan, his initial post on it was solid. It's misguided in that it would require everyone to take part.. which won't happen; but the theory is sound. It's easy enough for someone to test everyone else's post to make sure there's no tomfoolery occurring. Any switches (early or late) would draw suspicion. Somebody pulled him up on his switch to BH's plan 'with no posts in between', but that was bullshit. He'd been shown how it wouldn't work, so his switch was logical.
His first big post mostly makes sense. I agree with his points on RNG not being totally alignment indicative, and for me it's probably more like 60% town indicative. With most of the players in here, I don't think experienced scum would have much trouble causing a mislynch on day1. RNG is imo more likely to hit them than a lynch through the normal course of play - Unless they made a monumental slip-up.
Summary: Probably Town, like his thought process. Dude, drop the RNG. I was a believer, but it's not going to happen. Again, the logic behind it was solid (imo - see above), as is the setup talk and effectiveness of the scummers. The wording of this post was a little bit off to me: + Show Spoiler +On May 21 2014 07:52 Blazinghand wrote:
Good point, also it doesn't matter, we need to kill them all. So are you on board, jampidampi? or are you busy thinking of another excuse not to lynch your scumbuddy odin? In the post he was replying to, i'd put the win condition was "Eliminate all Factions, which endanger town". The 'we need to kill them all' seems to have just ignored that. Not sure if slip, but thought i'd mention it.. 'when in Rome' and all. Overall: I don't like how you've continued pushing the RNG as it's getting to the stage where most are ignoring you, although If anything I think it makes you more town than scum at this point. You know what stop putting Vaseline in your car and diesel does not improve your lips. Neither does motor oil work for lubrication of human anatom-
Actually, I am unsure of that
Anyway dat GASOLINE more specific than PETROL bro
Putting plastic in the car or what?
Loo
Heheh
Alyoominnium
If course to you we like a-LOO-minnum
Seems reasonably in line with newbie games i've played/obs'd with him, although slightly
Odd post time: "All other factions are anti town. That's confirmed." - Forgive me if I missed the page, but where was this confirmed?
Your vote on Holyflare was about as useful as my vote on Koshi.
+e$ports 20 for the recent geript comment.
Summary: Stay vigilant sqrt, newbie bro. These guys will promise you the world, and just end up taking your bottle-cap collection. (Probably town, but a bit too easily swayed)
You could pretty much pull out in a black Ford Model 18 "V-8" (1932-1934)* and wave your tommy gun around and I still probably wouldn't lynch you today. You're a survivor Cav, I believe in you. * Thanks GQ slideshow Oh, actual 'analysis' time? + Show Spoiler +On May 21 2014 14:12 Cavalinho wrote:Because he's scum. And also because he's trying to hide and he's posting a lot of questions aimed at making people feel superior. Hence, he is a mafia trying to get people to ignore him and blend in. I pretty much fully disagree. Steveling's done anything but try and blend in. The lover's tiff between him and Holyflare is one of the more dominant things that have happened so far. Maybe people will laugh, and maybe I'm overestimating the ability of some of you regulars/overusing my newbie reads, but it doesn't seem massively scummy. You haven't defecated today. Summary: Pale Mafia. A light shade of pink. + Show Spoiler +On May 21 2014 06:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 06:27 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 06:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:
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It's also obvious who are going to jump out in the front and try and lead town one way or another. We definitely have a mafia or two in the first couple of pages.
You sound confident, enough that I think you have your eye on someone already. Care to share as to who it may be? I may have my eye on a few people. From my experience, there are two type of mafia people: the lurkers, and the ones who like to ome out first day and take control of town. I'm focusing on the latter because they are the ones to likely talk more, you can easily find their slips (if any), and they are also more likely to last longer than the lurker mafia. I find the last sentence a little bit contradictory. If you assume that you're in a game with people who will catch slips most of the time, then surely the talkative slippy mafia wouldn't last longer than the lurkers due to the talkative slippy nature of themselves? I don't know, maybe it's just my interpretation of the line, and maybe im understating the {if any) part. + Show Spoiler +If I'm avoiding your question, it's because I have a pretty good damn reason as to why.
But because you are being persistant, the ones I have my eye on are Steveling, WaveofShadow and Tehpoofter. The fuck? It's early in the game, and there's pretty much 0 pressure on you to give out your reads to him. Saying you're then looking at them will surely change their behaviour, rendering the whole thing invalid? The whole post by matamburini is too big and had too many capitals, so I havent and probably wont read it.
You still have your vote on me, and i think you've spelled my name about 6 different ways. Apart from me, who do you think's scummy?
I don't have a clue what to expect from a 2-player player, but his post on how players enters the thread is alright. His quotes on jampidampi back this up. When the game started last night i couldnt really care, and i plan to return to that after this post for today. Previous newbie games i tried hard to analyse everything, and ended up being wrong and getting stressed, so it's carefree all the way for this game.
Erm, summary: Town. The heart post was funny, not much else in his filter. He hosted my first game, so I always thought he'd be super pro. Kita, warm my little heart and show me you're pro. I'm bored now and hungry and i suck at analysis and nobody will probably read it ::longpost:: and all. back to short-shitposting for now. I'll talk about others tomorrow.
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+ Show Spoiler +On May 21 2014 07:50 Valenius wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 07:48 Blazinghand wrote:On May 21 2014 07:45 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 07:33 Blazinghand wrote:On May 21 2014 06:40 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 06:32 Blazinghand wrote:
Look, I know you guys all hate RNG lynch but with 4 factions there's gonna be way more scum than usual, right? This means RNG has a much higher chance than usual of hitting scum. This is possibly the best time EVER for using RNg. Everyone lynch OdinofPergo, because statistically speaking he is scum. Why does more factions = more scum? Wouldn't scum numbers stay the same to keep the ratio of scum/all players balanced? As a member of the balance team, I can assure you that a multifactional game supports more scum than a non-multifactional game. There are a number of reasons for this. Part of it is that, say, in a 2-scum-faction game, half of the scum will push on each other for reasons unrelated to bussing, because they can't distinguish between "scum on the other scum team" and "town". They'll even shoot into each other sometimes. Town loses the ability to make some associative tells, but the amount of crosstalk from scum accidentally pushing or shooting each other makes up for it. 2+2 scum with each group having 1 kp will never be as effective as 4 scum with 2 kp working together at killing town. That being said, you never mentioned any real objection to the concept of RNG, you just questioned my estimate of scum in this game. I can only assume you didn't object to actual RNG because you think it would be fine if more factions = more scum. So, now that I've shown that more factions = more scum, you'll vote odin, yes? I would need some kind of hard evindence that there are multiple scum factions in this game to RNG lynch, since those additional factions could be third parties and that wouldn't necessarily increase the scum numbers. The definition of factions pretty much means they have to be scum aligned. Otherwise we'd just call them "blues". Even if they were like 3p factions or whatever, we'd still want them dead, right? Also nice goalpost moving. 1. "do more factions = more scum? wouldn't scum numbers stay the same to keep the ratio... balanced?" as a question implies that you, like me, expected all or most of the factions to be scum factions. 2. but then "additional factions could be third parties..." later on is what you say after I show solve #1. So, what's the deal? Why the resistance on the odinofpergo lynch??? From OP: "Town-Wincondition: Eliminate all Factions, which endanger town!" Not necessarily all scum aligned?
Spirit animal
Chipmunk
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On May 23 2014 03:55 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2014 03:50 mtamburini wrote:On May 23 2014 03:45 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 23 2014 03:28 OnceKing wrote:On May 23 2014 03:24 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 23 2014 03:21 OnceKing wrote:
also bunnies just brought up a gr8 point where once people started pulling off of tambo he's disappeared l0l He honestly did. Like a "Hey, no one's voting me now, I still have one day" type thing. I think tambo is a procrastinator. procrastinating scum or procrastinating town or procrastinating null? Prcrastinating scum. I still don't like tambo in this game. I think he thinks he has one more day, and will be all like "hey, I have anther day to make them think im town. Let me post more now." Oh bunnies if I didnt know any better you're just a bit butt hurt cause I tunneled on you early game and just want the satisfaction of saying you got me ML because I get you ML a lot  Also just to rustle your jimmies some more click this trolling FTWand then this is what I did at end of that game #wrekt What was that? I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the big sounds and noises that are blaring "TAMBURINI IS MAFIA SCUM"Even if oyu aren't, yes. I will get deep satisfaction that your ass got mislynched. How does it feel tamburini? Huh? The fact everyone believes you are a girl and about to get lynched... To me it feels so sweet.
I love your enthusiasm it makes me laugh inside, FMPOV your calling me scum because im getting under your skin and its bothering you so you dont have any other response but to call me mafia. I know you know me better than this so I wouldnt be surprised if you were were not town aligned.
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On May 23 2014 03:59 austinmcc wrote:
Sorry, can you do those things and add why you chose them? That's my bad I guess for not including it.
Also, no desire to assign someone back?
town post because I like the long post with somewhat of an evaluation of each player. Reminds me of reading the paper and how the reporters are grading professional atheletes and how well they have done so far.
scum post because I feel like refering to the OP in such a way to look more towny without saying much.
spirit animal because it likes having nuts in its mouth and can climb trees super fast.
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On May 23 2014 04:10 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2014 04:01 mtamburini wrote:On May 23 2014 03:55 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 23 2014 03:50 mtamburini wrote:On May 23 2014 03:45 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 23 2014 03:28 OnceKing wrote:On May 23 2014 03:24 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 23 2014 03:21 OnceKing wrote:
also bunnies just brought up a gr8 point where once people started pulling off of tambo he's disappeared l0l He honestly did. Like a "Hey, no one's voting me now, I still have one day" type thing. I think tambo is a procrastinator. procrastinating scum or procrastinating town or procrastinating null? Prcrastinating scum. I still don't like tambo in this game. I think he thinks he has one more day, and will be all like "hey, I have anther day to make them think im town. Let me post more now." Oh bunnies if I didnt know any better you're just a bit butt hurt cause I tunneled on you early game and just want the satisfaction of saying you got me ML because I get you ML a lot Also just to rustle your jimmies some more click this trolling FTWand then this is what I did at end of that game #wrekt What was that? I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the big sounds and noises that are blaring "TAMBURINI IS MAFIA SCUM"Even if oyu aren't, yes. I will get deep satisfaction that your ass got mislynched. How does it feel tamburini? Huh? The fact everyone believes you are a girl and about to get lynched... To me it feels so sweet. I love your enthusiasm it makes me laugh inside, FMPOV your calling me scum because im getting under your skin and its bothering you so you dont have any other response but to call me mafia. I know you know me better than this so I wouldnt be surprised if you were were not town aligned. It takes WAAAYYY more than this to get under my skin, and you know it. The reason why I'm calling you mafia is because you are playing a terrible game. your intitial post focussed on calling me scum, but even your reasoning werent great. You go afk (which whatever. you had 'reasons') and then come back to try and get pressure off of you, then ago afk again You haven't actively tried to find mafia. And you are just doing this stupid interaction with me. So if you are town here, you are terrible town. If you are mafia. GET REKT
Looks like you are trying to cover your tracks when I flip town when lynched that I was "terrible town" and needed to be removed from game anyways.
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On May 23 2014 04:12 austinmcc wrote:
Haha, I was just looking at hapa. Wants to see stuff from you before maybe moving to Odin, which would indicate that he's looking at the thread to see if you post anything.
But mtam is posting what mtam is posting, and hapa was JUST looking at mtam, and doesn't pop in for any kind of comment.
Are you referring to me as Manny Ramirez?
![[image loading]](http://cache.boston.com/images/bostondirtdogs//BDD_MR_lost_7.9.08_bgjd.jpg)
Manny just being Manny.
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On May 23 2014 04:26 Xatalos wrote:
What was that vote, mtamburini...?
I have a lot of reading to catch up on so if I had to found scum based on the first 45 pages of this game I probably couldnt do so. poofter was in my initial scum reads moving towards null.
Im not going to vote on bunnies because I think she might be town and just needs some time to cool off and get her head in gear.
As the days go on my game will improve. With regards to my interactions with people Ive played with before I know I have a better chance of getting a read off them then smoeone I do not know so I will look at them first before anyone else.
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On May 23 2014 04:38 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2014 04:36 mtamburini wrote:On May 23 2014 04:26 Xatalos wrote:
What was that vote, mtamburini...? I have a lot of reading to catch up on so if I had to found scum based on the first 45 pages of this game I probably couldnt do so. poofter was in my initial scum reads moving towards null. Im not going to vote on bunnies because I think she might be town and just needs some time to cool off and get her head in gear. As the days go on my game will improve. With regards to my interactions with people Ive played with before I know I have a better chance of getting a read off them then smoeone I do not know so I will look at them first before anyone else. hey i thought after your long post the ONLY read you had was that steveling was scummy/null to you and that was it? where did this first 45 page poofter read come from?
tehpoofter uses sarcasm as either allignment but you can usually tell by the tone of his sarcasm what allignement he is. From his initial posts Im reading the sarcasm as more scummy then towny
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On May 23 2014 05:40 OnceKing wrote:small wagons: valenius (2) - kita, sqrt yell0w (1) - poof bunnies (1) - cephiro hf (1) - wos layabout (1) - ritoky poof (1) - tambo tambo literally had a pointless throwaway vote, i'd be glad to see him die kita wanted a lynch on blueyd but his vote is on valenius (?). didn't say much about odin, explain this? sqrt brushed aside the case on odin saying that he thought odin was vt, didn't say much otherwise. poof, cephiro, wos, ritoky afk (though wave and ritoky said they were gonna sleep so i don't draw much adverse inference from that) pedit: saw sqrt's list of late switchers kush changed before bh's case xatalos thru hf changed after bh's case hapa changed after making this post even though valenius didn't really post anything worthwhile everyone else basically sheeped BH's case (i mean it was good) post flip definitely dislike tambo more as well as one of valenius/hapa (moreso valenius atm) and afk people (poof, cephiro) dont know how i feel about kita or any of the people who sheeped gonna head out for a bit when i get back i'll be rereading
Was not sure if there was an option to NL or not so I threw my vote. Read into that as you want.
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So when doing voting histroy and analysis you must keep in mind of that there is more than just town and mafia in this game, a common strategy for mafia generally from what Ive heard (correct me if Im wrong) is to spread out their votes if they can so they all do not look scummy for voting together. Having said that think about the win condtions that the non threatening town aligned people could have.
The limitations for that faction are endless, I was thinking about it while I was at work. What if a win condition was something along the lines of protecting certain players? This could make them look really bad if that person ends up getting lynched and flip scum by assosiation.
Another thing I was thinking about is possible 3rd party win conditions. Correctly lynching/shooting someone from each faction. Or something like killing off an entire faction (town or mafia)
Just something to think about when doing the analysis as this is not a "normal" game
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On May 23 2014 06:19 austinmcc wrote:
geript i know i said i'd read steveling and i will. didn't get to it this morning.
mtam,
how does that stuff affect vote analysis for you? You sort of say that the non-normal nature of the game MIGHT change things, say what a normal mafia team might do, but...it feels like there should then be some kind of conclusion. Is there a particular way you think voting would change in any of those possible settings?
The conclusions I hope to draw from vote analysis mixed with some night actions could hopefully draw a couple lines making the factions more easier to see. A lot of what happened yesterday and next 2 days will be important when trying to draw lines.
There were a couple of POI yesterday me being one of them which vote analysis is going to help.
BH made a very good post that I was somewhat thinking about, I have not been posting a lot and not making very clear and procise thoughts about stuff thats going on etc etc Id like to hear from the people who pulled off me to lynch someone else.
Me knowing I am town people pulling off me must of had a good reason too think I was town towards end of game and for the people that didnt vote for me must of had a good reason why odin was more scummier than me.
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Not sure if the mod is being flavourful but didn't someone mention something about being electric and then someone got electrocuted?
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On May 24 2014 05:14 austinmcc wrote:gg dead town bros. gg also koshi, who apparently forced everyone into this game only to roll some faction and die N1. Show nested quote +On May 24 2014 05:01 geript wrote:
Hey Austin, I want you to explain two things to me:
1. Why would not-town Hapa respond to me the way he did and get pissy at me and how I was playing?
2. Why do you even think I could be not-town? Reasons that I don't buy - to get town points, to buddy you, whatever. Reasons I can actually buy - at some point, a shitty thread may be good for mafia, but even mafia has to not want to read super duper shitty threads. The you vs. BH vs. steveling stuff could be toned down about 5 levels and still make thread slightly less legible, so I don't see it as full negative to try and get people to tone things down. His talk with you does read like he's legitimately concerned about what you're doing, not just getting town points. As far as why I can think you could be not-town, it's because I don't find you to be a shit poster or anything, and you're just continuing to do stuff that you have to know is anti-town. I can't go having a pookie pie who rolls town and chooses to much with the thread. Show nested quote +On May 24 2014 05:04 Hapahauli wrote:Ge ge guys. Not only does Valenius have...I guess just one scumread, not a filter-full. But it's on YOU. How is Yellow the guy you pick up on having scumreads but voting OOP for no real reason, over Valenius, the dude you thought was scum, think is scum, and had a scumread on YOU that he was even pushing 10 min before the deadline while voting BH as sheep>? Read this, and tell me exactly why my case on Yell0w is not bad/damning: Yell0w+ Show Spoiler +Pretty simple: Votes Odin pretty early in the game in support of the "RNG lynch" thing. On May 21 2014 08:55 Yell0w wrote:
Okay so I'm behind an RNG lynch, I understand my idea wouldn't work since people don't want to random their vote and if most don't do it it'll never work, so I'll just vote Odin. I was willing to wait for people to say why they were against it, but nobody gave a good reason not to do it, in my opinion.
##Vote: OdinofPergo 13 hours later, he has scumreads! He very specifically has a STRONG scumread on tamburini and has seemingly a very good reason to vote him right away. On May 22 2014 00:19 Yell0w wrote:
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ritoky: leaning scum, he hasn't posted enough for me to think he isn't, just made big posts to make it seems like he's contributing to town instead of actively participating in the thread like he did last game.
tamburini: scum, I didn't like the big post he made, it all seemed like fluff, he was basically just giving his gut reads on people as he was reading the thread, which is pretty much useless to anyone but him. He's been very different from the game I played with him where he was town.
... But he doesn't vote tamburini... or anyone. Despite being active ~5 hours before lynch deadline. He comes back in the thread, makes several posts that provide very little content, then is gone. I realize that Yell0w has been considered lynchbait in the past, but goddamn voting RNG over a very clear scumread (tambo) is a pretty glaring scumtell. ...because I think it's very strong, and much stronger than my case on Valenius. Someone voting RNG over their articulated scumreads is the most eye-catching things I can think of in a mafia game. As for Valenius - again, I think he is scum, but I have less concrete evidence to believe so. And hell, someone being suspicious of me is not a scumtell. Why on earth would that factor into my decisionmaking when reading him? Sure I'm suspicious of him for his lack of content elsewhere, but just for the case? No way. I'll look at yellow. Mostly ignored that filter. HF, interested in whether you were serious. ALSO DISLIKE THAT PEOPLE SEE THE LACK OF MTAM SHOT, WONDER WTF IS UP WITH THAT, AND MTAM'S COMMENT POST-DAYPOST IS Show nested quote +On May 24 2014 05:06 mtamburini wrote:
Not sure if the mod is being flavourful but didn't someone mention something about being electric and then someone got electrocuted? THAT'S NOT "WHO SAVED ME" OR "HF MAFIA LIED ABOUT SHOOTING" OR ANY KIND OF "WHAT JUST HAPPENED."That's someone knowing what happened, knowing they'd be saved or whatever. Booooooooooo.
I dont get it why would I be saved? I was the scummiest person yesterday
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The more likely suggestion if you think Im scum would be to assume that HF got roleblocked.
Did not read the night talk phase I went to bed and then just came back from work
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On May 24 2014 05:41 kushm4sta wrote:
so how is steveling scum if he is new to forum mafia (right?) and he has 17 pages. new scum don't do that.
So you are under the impression that new players that talk a lot and have a big filter cant be scum?
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On May 24 2014 05:53 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2014 05:51 Steveling wrote:
I don't like how BH was the first to clearly speak about the setting after all these kills happened.
Seems like he's one of them djinnis.
But then why did he claimed isaac?
But then why is scummy slam sheeping him?
It all rests in the isaac role and I'm willing to take the risk of unveiling a good town role too early than him being scum surviving until late game abusing his semi-claim. If BH is still alive at LYLO and hasn't produced something good with his role, I think it's safe to lynch him. It'd be stupid to force him to fully roleclaim right now.
How can one assume lylo?
Assuming that not all the 4 factions other than town have KP, they always have a chance to cross shoot eachother so its very hard to ever assume we are in a LYLO position at any point in this game is ludacris IMO
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Koshi voted for Xatalos and layabout I think its quite safe to assume they are not the same faction as koshi.
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On May 24 2014 06:09 Blazinghand wrote:
Man I already voted tambo, analyzed kill flavor (but actually correctly) and proved you wrong, all in like an hour! I'm a productivity tornado
I dont get it do you think Im scummy for that or towny?
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On May 24 2014 07:06 Xatalos wrote:
thrawn has really been under the radar so far. He could be scum (or some anti-town faction).
Does it really matter which?
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On May 24 2014 07:38 Xatalos wrote:
mtamburini: You've been here today and commented on some stuff. Could you actually scumhunt or something in that direction? Have you even caught up with the thread yet?
Just trying to understand the conversations that are going on right now, not sure what to make of it. Have not caught up yet but working on it. I plan to be caught up sometime tomorrow evening around the 24 hours mark I need to go to sleep in a couple hours I have work early tomorrow morning.
With this being only an allignemnt flip game Im having trouble taking into consideration why certain people die over others (IE softing roles for example) All I can base the town kills off of are the scum thought they were the most towny people playing or if a town role decided to shoot them because they thought they were scummy. As far as I know no one has claimed any shots just yet so Im going to assume Scum have a Kp of 3 so there might be only one non town aligned factioned that is non threatening.
With regards to the koshi death the same logic applies with the town people dying, did another faction think they were acting really town and shot him or did a town PR shoot him thinking he was scummy.
Its hard to me do decipher information by the way the posts are being written, it seems like someone is writing up minutes to a meeting of what each person said. Its feel like were all conversing at a round table and there is bickering back and forth between parties. Almost like video mafia except I cant get any body reads of facial reactions from anyone.
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On May 24 2014 07:49 layabout wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2014 07:47 mtamburini wrote:On May 24 2014 07:38 Xatalos wrote:
mtamburini: You've been here today and commented on some stuff. Could you actually scumhunt or something in that direction? Have you even caught up with the thread yet? Just trying to understand the conversations that are going on right now, not sure what to make of it. Have not caught up yet but working on it. I plan to be caught up sometime tomorrow evening around the 24 hours mark I need to go to sleep in a couple hours I have work early tomorrow morning. With this being only an allignemnt flip game Im having trouble taking into consideration why certain people die over others (IE softing roles for example) All I can base the town kills off of are the scum thought they were the most towny people playing or if a town role decided to shoot them because they thought they were scummy. As far as I know no one has claimed any shots just yet so Im going to assume Scum have a Kp of 3 so there might be only one non town aligned factioned that is non threatening. With regards to the koshi death the same logic applies with the town people dying, did another faction think they were acting really town and shot him or did a town PR shoot him thinking he was scummy. Its hard to me do decipher information by the way the posts are being written, it seems like someone is writing up minutes to a meeting of what each person said. Its feel like were all conversing at a round table and there is bickering back and forth between parties. Almost like video mafia except I cant get any body reads of facial reactions from anyone. From the sounds of it you have been around, you have managed to play games before why can't you put your time in now? Is it really that hard to play as scum for you?
Schools out and I work 60 hours a week during the summer time, the smaller games are easier to catch up on then this game. I was not anticipating the large amounts of posts.
Nice try and throwing in a BS shot at the end there only makes you look worse IMO.
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