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On May 23 2014 03:54 austinmcc wrote: kita can you talk about mtam? You were looking earlier for a counterwagon to avoid blowout, now they appear in spades. If you throw out the last couple posts that are intentionally trolly, how you feel about his/her play? Spades? -_- YOU WILL PAY FOR THAT ONE. As for tam, I know I've made similar stream of consciousness posts as town after catching up on a large amount. Ya, they are usually pretty bad, but you find yourself gathering quotes of interest and then sharing your thoughts without realizing most of the things aren't really relevant anymore. I think the vote on poofter an hour before the lynch is pretty terrible. Overall, I see a player that is only interested in interacting with his little group and playing for personal amusement, but not necessarily scum yet. | ||
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On May 23 2014 04:09 Valenius wrote: Anyway, you're the closest read i have to scum at the moment. Just flipping about and pushing whoever seems to be flavour of the hour. More so than Odin? | ||
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On May 23 2014 04:18 austinmcc wrote: Qua? What am I paying for? Don't toy with me. I see through all your shenanigans. ![[image loading]](http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101018183720/goldensun/images/8/83/GSSpade.jpg) Blados (スペード Spade) is an antagonist in Golden Sun: Dark Dawn. Together with Chalis (Heart), he is one of the commanders of a secretive military nation named Tuaparang. On May 23 2014 04:18 austinmcc wrote: How about his earlier stuff? There was nothing from you about him as a whole when I looked back through, although he was on a list of 4 dudes that...I think it was you saying MZ or WoS could look at. Something. And I guess more specifically, you see him as catching up on a large amount? I'm not really sure what you're asking here. Maybe clarify? | ||
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On May 23 2014 04:22 27ninjabunnies wrote: Kita with these connections lol Nobody uses the phrase "appear in spades" unless they're trying to taunt me. I will have my justice. | ||
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On May 21 2014 12:09 mtamburini wrote: I read 200 posts and felt like quoting things I thought were worth mentioning. @austin, catching up was a reference to the first time he had to do so, which spawned the large post that people attacked him for. | ||
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I know some may consider this a matter of semantics here, but I put some value into it. Will look back later. | ||
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On May 23 2014 07:45 BlueyD wrote: Are you kidding me? We actually lynched the RNG target. What the hell. You're all bad. Only had time to check the lynch, Will be back later. Says the guy who was gone from the thread for 19 hours :/ Also, HI ERANDORR! | ||
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Just remember my mafia friends, in multi-faction game historically, the faction that focused their night hits on the opposing faction were far more likely to win than those that prioritized mafia shots. I think it was something crazy like 9/10 last time I looked. The reason for this is that the top priority should be to eliminate the rival mafia kp. The town lynch cannot be eliminated until all town members are dead, but the mafia factional kp can be removed by killing off a much smaller group of players. Additionally, you can save yourself from a lynch by talking your way out, but you can't deal with a bullet that you don't know about. The opposing mafia faction can manipulate the vote based on their additional knowledge, which is much more of a threat than town, which is in the dark. Finally, claiming a scum shoot is a free pass to get out of jail if you get in trouble during the following cycle. The only time you want to start shooting obvious townies is a scenario where the mafia factions need to work together at like 8/1/1 or something. The reason that I was looking for Heart/Spade posts is that I am somewhat paranoid about a multi-faction scum team that wins together, but is not aware of each others identities. As a result, they may need to breadcrumb their identities to the other half. Something to keep in mind at least. | ||
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Mercury is the element of water, and therefore encompasses water and ice. Mercury is symbiotic with Jupiter, neutral toward Venus, and in conflict with Mars. Hmm, sounds like factions could possibly be allied/rivals of other factions based on this description from the wiki. | ||
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On May 24 2014 05:13 Xatalos wrote: So it would be like this? Town Scum Mercury Jupiter Mars or something I would think: Town Venus Mercury Jupiter Mars | ||
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On May 21 2014 10:15 BlueyD wrote: NO to rng lynch. Bad idea. End of story for me. Early on he takes the approach that I would expect knowing that Odin is likely town. Nothing too criminal here though. On May 21 2014 10:53 BlueyD wrote: Wasn't so convinced by the case on Valenius when I read it. His posts weren't pretend-contributions of the scummy type, they were just obviously irrelevant. Don't like how he follows it up with RNG-lynch talk, though. The whole thing is just a good place for scum to hide and not have to make any reads. --- On layabout: I'd like someone who knows him to confirm he always picks BH for an early vote... At multiple points, he takes a wishy washy approach to to his reads. Makes one point why a player is town, makes another point why a player is mafia, without coming to a conclusion. He does this with both Valenius and mtamburini. It's possible to be a townie who isn't really sure this early in the game, but I think it's a bigger concern considering he doesn't find many things suspicious early on. He shares the common opinion that the case on Cephiro feels stretch, but he doesn't say whether he feels that Cephiro is a town player that is forcing a case or if he is a mafia player that is pushing a player maliciously. Here is the part that I find severe: + Show Spoiler + On May 21 2014 13:56 BlueyD wrote: Yellow’s is just... -a lot of rng discussion with very few reads, -that switch from “BH’s method doesn’t work well” to “okay let’s do it”, and the general fact he’s for rng lynch -mentions the fact that there are multiple scum factions twice and seems to think it’s important. - and there’s at least one gem of defensive thought right here: On May 22 2014 00:26 BlueyD wrote: Oh, fun, I just saw your newest post. You are literally townreading someone who is pushing for your lynch (poofter), and who has his vote on you. I don't even know anymore. On May 22 2014 09:58 BlueyD wrote: Hmmm there’s a decent amount of people townreading yellow and I don’t get it, at all. I think the 3 I was analyzing below were for town-yellow, huh. HF you’re one of those who townread him, why? Is he often lynched early when he’s town? Basically is he lynchbait? Cuz he still doesn’t look good to me. Here he essentially gives multiple reasons why he finds Yellow as scummy. First off, I don't find the reasons to be all that compelling. Him changing his mind on BH's rng policy isn't a huge deal, the setup and rng discussion is a minor point, but not the basis of a case, and town reading poofter who is voting for him seems more of a townie action than something you would expect from a mafia player. On May 22 2014 13:51 BlueyD wrote: Things be good. While I'm at it: ##vote mtamburini Don't think Yellow is replying to me tonight so I'll just have to put my vote on who I think is the strongest case now. Secondly, he gives a really weird excuse for moving off yellow so easily. He moves his vote due to a lack of reply, but there is no real followup to his yellow case to push the player he believes to have caught as scum. He does mention that he finds hapa's post on tam valid, but throughout the entire day one he doesn't bring anything new to the table. It seems like he is looking for a player to vote, rather than scumhunt. Once he finds a player, he disappears from the thread for an 18 hour period. On May 23 2014 07:45 BlueyD wrote: Are you kidding me? We actually lynched the RNG target. What the hell. You're all bad. Only had time to check the lynch, Will be back later. When he returns, he gives us this post. A ton of the time, you'll see a mafia player post something like that, blaming town for their incompetence, even though he showed that he didn't care enough to even show up at the lynch. It's real easy to blame others when you do nothing to actually stop it. He attacks Cavalinho for the way he handle the Odin/tam/val vote switch, which is fine in theory, but I think there is too much blame here based on a him not participating in an unrealistic last minute vote swing. Mafia will also generally go out of their way to complain about the blue claims when they see a bad one, which he does with steve and slam. Overall, I think he does enough to get by, but he hasn't done anything that makes me feel like he prioritizing figuring out the game, rather than doing what is necessary for survival. Leaning mafia. Will post about a couple others later tonight or tomorrow morning. | ||
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On May 24 2014 08:33 mattisfoolish wrote: This is a correct read but drawing the wrong conclusion; you've essentially given the tl;dr of my case but you didn't do the history check to see what it means for him. Since your case is so reliant on past behavior, I assume this is the conclusion you came to after looking through 3+ games of each alignment and not just the one that you pointed out? | ||
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On May 23 2014 05:41 marvellosity wrote: the vets who sheeped the Odin case look the worst Who were you referring to here? | ||
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On May 24 2014 09:27 mattisfoolish wrote: I used the following games: Town TL Mafia LXIV Normal Mini Mafia Episode 1 SMB Mini Mafia Mafia Doctor Who Mafia 2 Default Suspicions Mafia Sicilian Mafia Style mmk. I was always under the assumption that kush is more likely mafia when you're not suspecting him because he is actually being reasonable, but perhaps that isn't the case. I'll take a look. | ||
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##Unvote Valenius is still on my scum list. He didn't have much to say on day one and he hasn't said anything yet on day two. He was one of the people who seemed to indicate that they would be on board for a Odin lynch due to a good "case" rather than calling Odin mafia. On May 23 2014 03:55 Valenius wrote: Yeah, that's a reasonable case. Votes going on Odin in a bit unless i find anything in the filter of one/two others first. At 14:55 he mentions that he will vote Odin unless he finds a better case from a few filters. 15 minutes later he posts his case on hapa coming to a scum conclusion. He obviously couldn't have spent much time looking elsewhere during this time due to how quickly he posted it. So if the only person he is looking at is someone without any votes, his statement about finding a better person to vote for isn't really valid. I would think he would be looking at people like Val or tam at that point. Seems like he wanted to show he had a scum read on someone before throwing down his vote on Odin. Based on content, I don't recall steveling standing out as scummy, aside from maybe a couple buddy attempts, but his role claim concerns me the most. The claim would mean he is more concerned about letting to town know that he was shot, than using the role to absorb future shots. On May 24 2014 05:05 Steveling wrote: My role is Lord Babi, my 4 Lemurian Draught casks allow me to survive the next kp targeted on me by consuming them. It doesn't clarify if the bullets are refunded. A four shot self-protect seems more powerful than I would expect out of a town role. He is essentially bulletproof at that point. I've lost my patience with thrawn. I want to lynch him and possibly would consider him my preferred lynch. He has even done this a couple of times in past mafia games, going the entire game without posting. For someone who everyone was ready to kill off most of day one, he has gotten off pretty easy today. I'm willing to understand a busy schedule, but he really better making up for it in the final 24 hours by posting three times as much content. If he shows up and goes back to trolly mode with a read on 1-2 players I would be willing to lynch. Looking at Cephiro's scum games, he has posted those monster walls of text early in the game multiple times as each alignment. I'm not willing to assume he is town based on effort there, especially since the content of the case wasn't very convincing. He hasn't posted since the start of day one. I still need to look at kush. I felt the Foolishness case was pretty easy to throw together. I'm having trouble sensing a time commitment here. I remember him calling jampi town in passing through, which reminded me of his behavior in the Aperture game. I think I'd prefer thrawn over meat if we're going to go with a inactive lynch. | ||
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On May 25 2014 10:12 kushm4sta wrote: why thrawn over meat Seems like thrawn is lurking, while meat is inactive and thrawn has past history of lurking as mafia. Showing up just to post "you shouldn't lynch me" annoyed me a bit as well. I have higher expectations of thrawn, though I'm not too familiar with meat. I wouldn't oppose votes on meat though considering his "Im going to play my trademark lazy town until i need to try hard" statement. | ||
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