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On May 22 2014 21:56 jampidampi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 21:52 Yell0w wrote:On May 22 2014 21:48 jampidampi wrote:
Yell0w, what do you think about layabout? Oh, I definitely disagree with you, I thought he seemed genuine when I first read it and again when you reposted it, it's actually a reaction I could see myself having if something like that happened to me. So I don't think that makes him scum at all. But I can't seem to find a reason why became angry between those posts. From the post it seems that he got angry because more people were jumping onto him, but that didn't hapen in that timeframe, so I'm confused as to why he wasn't angry in the first post.
It was because i (re?)read more of the thread between them, i can't remember if i had fully caught up with the first one
what do you think about ritoky?
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having just done the other voting the choice seems to be between mtamburini and odin
burini's recent posting makes me more inclined to vote him. He didn't seem to care when there is a considerable chance of flipping and that just isn't town at all.plus 70 short pages in 4 hours is weak.
It looks like odin is going to flip. is the case against him just "active lurker"? It's fine if it is but that's nothing compared to ritosky who has proper inconsistencies in his play.
##vote mtamburini
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guess am a bit late
this wagon came out of nowhere and a lot of people have missed it, 
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On May 23 2014 04:51 Steveling wrote:
Fucks sake layabout, do you know how ez we made it for the scum veterans to come after us now?
Whether he flips red or green.
Fuck this game.
w/e scum veterans have a great thread environment an multiple day1 blue claims
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not only are late switches amazing but if he doesn't come back he is dead anyway
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how long have we had the countdown timer? it's pretty swish
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On May 23 2014 05:07 Steveling wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2014 05:04 Blazinghand wrote:
Even though I'm disappointed Odin flipped town I'm actually still fairly pleased with myself for getting him lynched lol
well time to see who was jumping on the wagon with shit/inconsistent reasons, and to use my sweet power(s) Fucking guy is laughing at our faces, lmao. Scum who claims best blue role d1 and says these kind of things, damn it BH you are my hero.
To be fair his actions are totally consistent with his townplay
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not reading any more of alakaslam po..
hang on i wasn't anyway
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That case on y3llow is horrific and i would normally call it pretty scummy tbh. Being absent during the last 3 hours of the day (which is when the odin wagon started in earnest) is not something that we can necessarily infer things from because we have no way of knowing if the absence is legitimate. That's a narrative, a few quotes and no argument with some added complaining about doing work for the thread.
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On May 24 2014 03:26 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2014 03:25 layabout wrote:
That case on y3llow is horrific and i would normally call it pretty scummy tbh. Being absent during the last 3 hours of the day (which is when the odin wagon started in earnest) is not something that we can necessarily infer things from because we have no way of knowing if the absence is legitimate. That's a narrative, a few quotes and no argument with some added complaining about doing work for the thread. the dude was absent for way more than the last 3 hours of the day tho and he hasn't veen back since then so yewah, get served
"dude" your first game of mafia wasn't even student it was the 80 player one
@ hapa cephiro was one of if not the first players to move the discussion into the realms of because of A and B player C is Mafia
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Challenge!
Go back and look at ritoky.
Convince me that his actions around the vote are consistent with his alleged read and that he is trying to figure out the game, because to me it look like the exact opposite.
He utterly ignores one of his major scum candidates (tmaburini) and the wagon on him to oportunistically jump onto somebody who he didn't even understand the case against instead. He felt like WoS was a prime candidate for the lynch since his entry to the thread but did not to act upon it.
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I want steveling to get shot so bad
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whoop whoop right about koshi!
bk almost certainly scum hit, mz too i guess since he would have been a terrible vig shot
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On May 24 2014 05:24 geript wrote:Nobody, I just don't trust my reads right now and have been on a really fucked up sleep schedule and haven't made time to filter dive heavily.
"Yo guys i claimed vig day 1 i had time to make a 12 page filter but i didn't have time to find a lurker, a spammer, read posts about who to vig shot or have a single scum read. I tunneled steveling to the point of spamming the thread accusing him of being scum but i didn't shoot him either. Furthermore i didn't use my bullet since I didn't expect to be roleblocked or shot by mafia"
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On May 24 2014 07:26 ritoky wrote:
My initial response to reading the night kills:
Koshi - Seemed pretty town last phase to me, there were a few people sheeping him, so I could see how he would be targeted...guess I was wrong about the town part.
BK - Was pretty null for me, but wasn't this guy a veteran smurfing? And didn't a few people take issue with the fact that he wouldn't admit who he was? Could have been a spite kill for that? Otherwise I don't particularly see a justification
MZ - Crap, there goes my top town read.
Going to read everything since the day phase post now.
what kind of approach is this?
Hay guys these are my reads on the people that are already dead! No one needs to know this and there is no real reason to post this as town. It does not do anything to further town goals.
However reading this makes me think that when ritoky wrote it he was thinking primarily about he would look in the thread when he wrote it instead of what he wants. It doesn't seem like a natural reaction. It looks constructed, fake.
"MZ - Crap, there goes my top town read."
Now when your town townread dies and you think that, at what part of your post would you put it? Here it reads like a bullet point not a curse! Typically I would expect this kind of comment at the start of a post since it's your immediate thought on seeing the flips.
Ritoky is mafia guys!
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hapa that was i was saying!!
the alakaslam thing is funny but bh had told us enough for anyone to work out and mafia always have the upper hand when working out role shit compared to vt's.
So with that said since i wasn't explicit geript is lying about being a vig, not sure if it makes him mafia dun wanna filter him.
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On May 24 2014 07:47 mtamburini wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2014 07:38 Xatalos wrote:
mtamburini: You've been here today and commented on some stuff. Could you actually scumhunt or something in that direction? Have you even caught up with the thread yet? Just trying to understand the conversations that are going on right now, not sure what to make of it. Have not caught up yet but working on it. I plan to be caught up sometime tomorrow evening around the 24 hours mark I need to go to sleep in a couple hours I have work early tomorrow morning. With this being only an allignemnt flip game Im having trouble taking into consideration why certain people die over others (IE softing roles for example) All I can base the town kills off of are the scum thought they were the most towny people playing or if a town role decided to shoot them because they thought they were scummy. As far as I know no one has claimed any shots just yet so Im going to assume Scum have a Kp of 3 so there might be only one non town aligned factioned that is non threatening. With regards to the koshi death the same logic applies with the town people dying, did another faction think they were acting really town and shot him or did a town PR shoot him thinking he was scummy. Its hard to me do decipher information by the way the posts are being written, it seems like someone is writing up minutes to a meeting of what each person said. Its feel like were all conversing at a round table and there is bickering back and forth between parties. Almost like video mafia except I cant get any body reads of facial reactions from anyone.
From the sounds of it you have been around, you have managed to play games before why can't you put your time in now? Is it really that hard to play as scum for you?
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On May 24 2014 07:47 Steveling wrote:
Layabout since you are here, care to explain your "I want him to be shot" post about me?
19 pages of posts in 1 cycle and way too much is noise, as mafia i wouldn't even consider shooting you yet because the volume of posting by you and that you have directly triggered is making the game intimidating/a pain in the ass depending on what kind of person you are. You HAVE to be more concise or we should probably kill you. Continuing to post that way is super anti town.
I remember spending 12 hours a day on a game and it having a pretty negative effect on me, i was posting a ton and they were long posts but i only managed 13 or so pages in all. I don't know how you are doing it, it seems a tad insane to me.
+ Show Spoiler +as in i can't grasp it, i am not calling you a nutter
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On May 24 2014 07:57 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2014 07:47 layabout wrote:
hapa that was i was saying!!
the alakaslam thing is funny but bh had told us enough for anyone to work out and mafia always have the upper hand when working out role shit compared to vt's.
So with that said since i wasn't explicit geript is lying about being a vig, not sure if it makes him mafia dun wanna filter him. Look laya, put yourself in my shoes. Pretend that you're a vig, have had a pretty terrible D1 despite being obv town and are short on time. I'm rarely shot N1; hell I'm rarely shot N2. I have far more to gain by holding my shot. I could've shot a lurker like Meat, a mostly inactive like Onegu/OK, etc. But odds are that I have time to hold my shot in a game with like Koshi/Marv/BH/Hapa/Kita/Fool/etc. Especially wwhen I've been playing awfully and am likely to make an awful shot like say BH, Slam or Scumeling because of how biased I've been. It's just better play to wait in my position. In most positions in a large game like this it's a good idea to wait a few cycles. Keep on this train if you want but it's just a dead end.
This is not the perspective of a town vigilante. Nobody buy this.
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Nothing about ritoky's posting suggest he is looking at the game from a town perspective!
His behavior yesterday did not match up with what he told us his reads where. He provides a handful of shaky half sentences with regards to why people might be mafia and there is no indication that he is trying to figure the game out. The most he was prepared to write was inconsequential "analysis" and BH and y3llow talking about rng. He tone and post structure show that he is also very mindful of how his posts make him look!!
##vote ritoky
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